Giga didn't create this mess.
Except that he had not any objection to receive boatloads of coins no questions asked from the retards. Now is a bit late to get it straight, shill. |
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If you or your attorney fail to confirm my email adress and send the owing BC back, or contact me in any other way personally to talk through this, until 30th of November, I will have my lawyer taking criminal charges against you.
That's the only sensed approach. If he likes to play with lawyers, then let him do it. I suggest that us small fry investors join to push any sort of criminal and civil charges against this scum. It was not enough for him to profit like a bandit on the back of his investors. No, he wants all the pie, thank you very much. I wonder if he's a member of the tribe. |
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Bitcoin might become illegal some day. You never know.
Yep. That's the main reason to consider this option imho. If they forbid private property of gold 80 years ago, just figure what they could pull out now. At least we should have a backup plan ready to go underground in case things go south. |
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I found that my problem is probably due to my shitty motherboard: Asrock AliveXfire esata 2 r3: lots of people with this mobo have the same problem with ATI cards. Updating the bios to the last version did not help.
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(as I can't see the original agreement anywhere)?
I am soo (not) surprised. We're phucked again. |
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The contract says he pays the amount 5Mhash/s gives.
Does the contract mention affidavits or whatever legal shit you have to go through to get back your coins? Then let's stand to the contract. |
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Unfortunately, the cost of "going legal" is also pushed onto unit-holders, who didn't sign up for this, and are rightfully pissed. It's a shitty situation. -But, the alternative could be Giga's facilities and house being raided with all electronics confiscated, resulting in a near-worthless operation.
OK, then he shoud ask that info just from whom wants to go along with that, and just refund who does not and wants out. |
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Can anyone point my to the post where gigavps tells if he pays the lawyer with the bitcoins invested by other people? I can't seem to find it.
Can you point us where he negates that? But who cares. At this point I hope that his lawyer will bankrupt him. |
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The alternative is calling a halt to the entire thing.
I vote for the alternative. Just send me my coins back. BTW: just after the huge mess that Nefario did trying to go legit, it can't believe someone paid a lawyer to produce the same expecting a different result. |
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I forgot to mention that I just opened a new bank account (here: http://tinyurl.com/astnu2j ) and they did not ask me all the sh*t Giga asks, and absolutely no affidavit. Just figure. |
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No you don't.
I mean: do you sign your email to his lawyer? With your real name? Because if you don't sign it, he might say that he doe snot deal with anons, and if you use a fake name it may start another mess. |
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Anyway - next step for everyone is pretty obvious, irrespective. Find out precisely what his lawyer is claiming his stance is
In order to do that, you already have to identify yourself, and some could not like it as a start. |
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For those not wanting to go through this process, why not hire a proxy to make the claims. All GLBSE gave giga was email and bitcoin address and the total number of units held.
Not so bad idea, but in so doing we would expose ourselves to another scam opportunity (from the proxy, in case Giga pays him) This if freaking unbelievable. It never ends |
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Think of it in practical terms. Say he accepts 20k BTC worth of claims on the Internet, no questions asked. Five years from now it is proven Nefario lied, and there's new users for about 12k of those BTC. In five years that's a solid million and-then-some dollars.
Nefario could have pulled this and any other sort of scams since day one. But everybody trusted him all along. Just up to now. Now that is payback time is different: now you need an affidavit. It makes sense. |
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The important thing to bear in mind here is that gigavps is actually going into his own pocket to pay what on first glance looks like massive legal fees to try and get this entire mess glbse made out of BTC finance on some sort of a semblance of a healthy footing.
B/S. Since many are not going through the ordeal and expenses to recover their assets, and Giga knows it like anyone, he must even know that it is not him that is going to lose anything. And that is why he pulled this trick IMHO, since there is not really any law which forces him to do this. Otherwise why he did not think about it *before* taking all the investors' coins? Nobody asked me nothing when I bought his shares. Why? And now that is payback time he wants to know even my blood group? Puh-leeze. Directing your frustration at him would be pretty much the equivalent of the stray dog that after years of living in the streets is now biting the vet.
Very wrong metaphor. We just got another proof that anyone who "invested" on GLBSE should be enraged with his own foolishness first of all. edit: and now expect that all the other issuers will ask the same. They won't have even to pay for the lawyer. |
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So my btc might still come? The suspense is killing me
So my btc might still come? The suspense is killing me
It depends on what you invested them on: |
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Are you joking? Can your lawyer quote any actually existing law that would oblige you to ask all that? Maybe he understood that you want to run a bank, or he just enjoys tequila. Why don't you just move to another exchange? edit: WTF is that: An affidavit attesting to the beneficial assignment of the agreement, which has been notarized (US residents/corporations) or local equivalent bearing the apostille of the competent jurisdiction. Copies of an acceptable affidavit can be obtained upon request from the law offices.  Just say that you want to keep all the coins |
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make the best of a crap situation. Then maybe it would be better to go for a p2p exchange and learn to use open transactions, to at least reduce the number of people who can scam you for any single thing. But even with that, you always depend on your trust on someone else with little recurse to the law in case you trusted the wrong guy. So unless someone find an effective system of sanctions in case of scams, this investing thing is not going to float IMHO. |
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