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20421  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Reviewing the Halong Mining DragonMint T1, a 10nm SHA-256 Miner on: April 13, 2018, 03:40:20 PM
Slightly more efficient than proven S9.

all of mine are about .105 watts per 1gh at the wall.

1 has a dropped board


http://ckpool.org/users/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

first unit old firmware on this one look at 1 hr rate of 15.1t

workername": "16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr",
   "hashrate1m": "19.8T",
   "hashrate5m": "16.8T",
   "hashrate1hr": "15.1T",
   "hashrate1d": "142T",
   "hashrate7d": "34.6T",
   "lastshare": 1523633408,
   "shares": 5329198977,
   "bestshare": 65201213603.0,
   "lns": 5307498287.915012,
   "luck": 1.01,
   "herp": 5351461064.377117

second unit old firmware look at 1 hr rate of 15.0t
"workername": "16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr.1",
   "hashrate1m": "11.7T",
   "hashrate5m": "13.7T",
   "hashrate1hr": "15T",
   "hashrate1d": "9.66T",
   "hashrate7d": "2.05T",
   "lastshare": 1523633409,
   "shares": 311079480,
   "bestshare": 226462495.0,
   "lns": 310052756.1595064,
   "luck": 1.0,
   "herp": 310046022.2003531

third unit old firmware look at 1 hr rate of 10.6t this is the one with dropped board.

 "workername": "16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr.3",
   "hashrate1m": "12.4T",
   "hashrate5m": "11.7T",
   "hashrate1hr": "10.6T",
   "hashrate1d": "6.56T",
   "hashrate7d": "1.39T",
   "lastshare": 1523633409,
   "shares": 210180304,
   "bestshare": 196625949.0,
   "lns": 209494784.5212819,
   "luck": 1.0,
   "herp": 208768486.6223349


fourth unit old firmware look at 1 hr rate of 15.2t
"workername": "16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr.4",
   "hashrate1m": "16T",
   "hashrate5m": "16T",
   "hashrate1hr": "15.2T",
   "hashrate1d": "9.74T",
   "hashrate7d": "2.09T",
   "lastshare": 1523633403,
   "shares": 317464726,
   "bestshare": 1129180623.0,
   "lns": 316388009.930127,
   "luck": 1.01,
   "herp": 318588468.9164163



fifth unit new firmware look at no number yet note this is the one from a forum member.


"workername": "16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr.2",
   "hashrate1m": "17.7T",
   "hashrate5m": "14.3T",
   "hashrate1hr": "2.43T",
   "hashrate1d": "2.41T",
   "hashrate7d": "583G",
   "lastshare": 1523633398,
   "shares": 89727984,
   "bestshare": 128850564.0,
   "lns": 89362162.95710222,
   "luck": 0.99,
   "herp": 88289805.74712613
  },
sixth unit new firmware look at no number yet this is fro myrig/yoshi

"workername": "16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr.6",
   "hashrate1m": "15.5T",
   "hashrate5m": "15.4T",
   "hashrate1hr": "5.34T",
   "hashrate1d": "495G",
   "hashrate7d": "95.3G",
   "lastshare": 1523633410,
   "shares": 14209748,
   "bestshare": 11305225.0,
   "lns": 14171517.17823051,
   "luck": 1.05,
   "herp": 14845056.71371713
  }
20422  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: April 13, 2018, 11:55:58 AM
I have Ordered 16x L3+($462) with 1x 420 and 15x 350 coupons on 10 April.  
But few hours later, support told me that the order will be canceled due to coupons issues.(the coupons can only deduct no more than 50% of the product price).
Then i re-order 12x L3+($462) again with 12x 200 coupons.

$462-$200=262 still sweet.


The coupons pay for the shipping.  So you are still paying around $500 per unit after shipping and import fees (assuming you are here in the US)

wrong

462+99=561-200 = 361

3% tax  is 12 a unit so he paid 373 maybe 375 each.

that would be 1 at a time

since he ordered 12 shipping is 775 fedex to USA


so

  775 --------- shipping for 12
5544 --------- price for 12
6319 --------- pre coupon price
2400 --------- coupons
3919 --------- net for 12 or 326.58 each

3% customs could be

.03 x 6319 = 189.57 highest   add 15.82 to each one you get 342.40

.03 x 3919 = 117.57 lowest  add 9.80  to each one  you get 336.38


at 336 to 343  he did well

these are perfect space heaters
set them to

 freq 312
 fans  24%

you pull 690 watts hash at 410mh

and not very loud

I would say he scored.

20423  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: April 13, 2018, 11:37:44 AM
Verdict is in. Samsung.  Explains the yeild issue and the  variance in power efficiency.

yeah  i have 5 + 1 six

they  all do 15.2 to 15.6

if you really look at the pcb they are similar to the s-9 but they are not s-9's

I have firmware upgrade on two of them.   -ck says there will be more firmware upgrades

http://ckpool.org/#/miners

Address   H/s 1h   H/s 1d   H/s 1w   
1   1EcH7pHYTHLo3cbdXfkf6e6Zh5JzCPGumc_______1.82PH/s   1.82PH/s   2.4PH/s   
2   36JMs8rogpizjkkp6eeKMmm3SLbSNo5H9V______2.55PH/s   1.9PH/s   1.16PH/s   
3   3Kfi5ZKnm8BJmpaDGdbjawPXEwEJ7FAWkD_____300TH/s   301TH/s   158TH/s   
4   1PiwEHgiTP4FgvNSgaPAp4ckgBR8Jd9JWw______133TH/s   91.7TH/s   20.7TH/s   
5   3CPTksz4MWWFkbx9iqeHobuqXns5Zg8cQB_____123TH/s   93.8TH/s   22.2TH/s   
6   3Dwc9kL3ghraPzMefbgNmPePDgreEJex7c______   77.9TH/s   76.1TH/s   58.1TH/s   
7   3HWbABbZj1pNWGE8njHNQqDfGC4c5ZMDnA____82TH/s   93.8TH/s   106TH/s   
8   1GeniexG7MnLr9WH48jG1cPLqgGbqUsaFM______70.4TH/s   19.5TH/s   27.8TH/s      
9   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr_______55.4TH/s   192TH/s   40.4TH/s   
10   35grB9KLe5e8LXcyd6eQmTb8RVRdsE2ipH_______45.2TH/s   48TH/s   53.2TH/s   

I am number nine  I have 4 online



Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to remove multiple nested quotes and unnecessary whitespace.
20424  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7 PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool on: April 13, 2018, 04:25:04 AM
Hashrate climbing again.

Hashrate 1 minute: 14.4PH/s
Hashrate 5 minutes: 12.6PH/s
Hashrate 15 minutes: 10.3PH/s


My rental dropped off.

so rate went down.

I do have 5 dragon mint t1's pointed at the pool


http://ckpool.org/users/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

around 71 th
Great stuff, welcome aboard. I think you'll be pleased when the next firmware becomes available for your T1s.

Sounds good to me
20425  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread! on: April 13, 2018, 03:06:50 AM
I had a couple of things collide in my mind last night.

Price of L3+ big drop - indicating a fairly high probability of a new Bitmain Scrypt miner soon.
That video claiming to be from some Bitmain "F3 miner" - and the hashrate in the video.

I already commented a couple places about that video possibly NOT being for an Ethereum miner - but now I'm strongly suspecting it's from a new Bitmain 14/16nm node based SCRYPT miner.

1500 Mhash/s on Scrypt at probably somewhere in the 1000 watt range just makes SENSE for a new-node Bitmain miner to be released in probably 2-3 months.


well

the s-7  was 28nm

the s-9 is 16nm

4.7th  at 1175watts

13.5th at 1375 watts

or .2500 watts a gh
to .1018 watts a gh

huge improvement

so l3 is    800watts/500mh
1.6 watts a mh for l3

so l5 is 800watt/1250mh

.64 watts a mh

that would be the same 2.5 to 1 improvement

now innosilicon A6 is  1500watt/1230mh  that is 1.22 watts a mh

so  all bitmain needs to do  is pop a .80 watts a mh  to 1000watt 1250mh

to be fair dragon mint built a beast in the sia b52  amazing gear compared to other ones.

maybe they do it with the ltc algo  and make a .5 watt a mh  1000 watts and 2000mh
20426  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [7 PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool on: April 13, 2018, 02:51:46 AM
Hashrate climbing again.

Hashrate 1 minute: 14.4PH/s
Hashrate 5 minutes: 12.6PH/s
Hashrate 15 minutes: 10.3PH/s


My rental dropped off.

so rate went down.

I do have 5 dragon mint t1's pointed at the pool


http://ckpool.org/users/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

around 71 th
20427  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Evga 1080ti hybrid for sale 2 of them on: April 13, 2018, 02:43:05 AM
bump

due to price drop

1938 for the 2 is now 1900  free shipping to usa.



New is out of stock.

It  costs 1940 for the 2 + 40 to ship or 1980 if they were in stock.

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6598-KR


So 34 months warranty vs 36 month warranty

save 80 bucks and have them shipping once funds transfer.

also btc is up
20428  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: April 13, 2018, 12:56:36 AM

...

Looks good! I like the visual specific chain tracking. I'd like some specific tuning capability soon!

It is a good graphic easy to see if things are working close to correct.
20429  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: April 13, 2018, 12:09:52 AM
Firmware update:

https://download.halongmining.com/files/t1/t1_20180409_010732.swu

Improvements:

Miner Status page update: Independent ASIC Chain Graphs, visual changes
Performance Tab: Auto-Tune capability
Firmware Tab: Automatically check and apply updates.

I believe the unit automatically calibrates itself after applying this update, so hash rate should peak 30-60+ minutes into that function.



I downloaded the  file and did one unit. firmware upgrade
https://i.imgur.com/dbPuN0M.png
https://i.imgur.com/5uSEDSq.png
https://i.imgur.com/bL9ES0t.png
https://i.imgur.com/kmQFdl6.png
https://i.imgur.com/6SBTNuu.png
20430  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: April 12, 2018, 11:34:52 PM
Tuning kicks in when the temperature is in the optimal range.

what is the optimal range number ?


Miner Info

#   Hash Rate   Status---Accepted/Rejected------   HW---   Temperature
1   5.25 TH/s   Alive-------1027/0------------   617---   71 ℃
2   5.27 TH/s   Alive-------1107/0------------   864---   68 ℃
3   5.15 TH/s   Alive-------1028/0------------   1215--   69 ℃

these are the 3 temps for each board.
20431  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: April 12, 2018, 08:10:20 PM
At least Canaan seems to have done tuning right. Per their info, each chip constantly is being tuned and tweaked for best performance so as conditions change so do the chips speed.
It is probably only partly true. They may tune the clock frequency synthesizer per each chip, but I think that the hashing core voltage is getting tuned in groups/strings/whatever is the actual limitation of their voltage regulators.
Precisely correct. The user can set a global Vcore and from there the tuning mechanism changes chip freq to keep what in analog terms would be called the best S/N ratio. Somewhere in Canaan's docs they describe what is checked, along with temps as I recall it is a mix of tracking HW errors and/or invalids then adjusting freq to keep them within their boundary values.

No matter what, it beats the hell out of doing a 1-time tuning run after bootup as Halong does.

if you check my 4 dragon mint t1 miners at the solar array 1 board dropped

http://ckpool.org/users/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

worker .3

Most likely clock was too high.

When the 5th one comes today I will bring it to the array and reboot that  other one.

so 4 should do 64th

my 4 are doing


"hashrate1m": "56.2T",
 "hashrate5m": "56.3T",
 "hashrate1hr": "55.9T",

1 board is off  so that is 5.33th  so 55.9 + 5.33 = 61.23  of 64 = 95.67%  of spec hash  assuming a reboot fixes the no hash board.

they should do 4 x 1480 = 5920 watts

so 64th = 61.23 th

5920 watts = 6480

btw this over watts is a pain for me as I have 30 amp pdu's  and 4 of these are doing 28 amps which means  3 per pdu not 4

I have a fix  3 T1's and 1 L3+  pull 23 to 24 amps.
20432  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread! on: April 12, 2018, 06:52:33 PM
L3+ only $462 - $200 coupon.
They must have a new more powerful model coming out??

Was thinking that myself.  I have a couple $420 coupons was thinking of getting some of those for next to nothing.

Only $220 or below coupons work for this batch of L3+.

good to know I used a 200  and paid

462 + 99 = 561 - 200 = 361

Do you have any $200 coupons for sale ?

I can give you a 100 for free.




Thank you Phil - Used a coupon, worked out well.

I think I ended up buying 11 of them but a little slower to start would have saved me some money.

I paid about 800 or 850   on average for the 11.

I like the clock to 312
the watts drop to 680
the fans are 24%

Hi philip, whats your take on the L3+? Thats a lot, 11 pcs is more than a gamble. Aren't you afraid that they will be releasing a new model soon that will make your L3+s obsolete? I'm sure you've done the math but would you care to share your thoughts?

buysolar and I are designing a solar  mining setup.

six  200 watt panels --------------- 10-20 year warranty
special solar to psu gear to miner gear ----------- 5-7 year warranty
L3+ ---------------------------------- more or less disposable.

concept is simple  pay one price never pay again

L3+  uses 800-850 watts for  500mhs
it uses  690 - watts for 400mhs and is quiet fans go  to 25%  at freq 312

the key to key price low  is gear under  850 watts like the L3

if I do this with
s9
avalon 841 
T1

they all exceed 1200 watts.

This  type of setup can be on grid or off grid.
Off grid is cheaper no permits  just have space
On gird  costs more needs  a permit
20433  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: April 12, 2018, 06:00:47 PM
Ja.
At least Canaan seems to have done tuning right. Per their info, each chip constantly is being tuned and tweaked for best performance so as conditions change so do the chips speed.

Heat sink design for maximum dissipation/smallest package and lowest noise is another puzzlement regarding the Halong miners and Bitmains. Once again, Canaan put some thought into it and did it right.

Since I was given  the demos  from MyRig  total of 5x T1's  and 1x B52  along with 6 psu's

And buysolar and I will be involved with Canaan repair and upgrades on east coast of USA.

We will be in a very good position to directly compare the gear and the service. Of both companies.

Frankly I want to do business with both companies and continue to do so.
I also want to be honest  and transparent to bitcointalk.org community.

I do not have enough info to say buy canaan don't buy bitmain or Halong dragonmint.

I do have info info to say :

First)      Dragonmint T1 is real

Second)  Yoshi did do as he promised to do for me in fact  he did better as he also sent  psu's and  the dragonmint b52

Third)     The  Dragonmint T1 is a bit short of spec

Fourth)   The Dragonmint b52 is a higher hashrate then spec and higher power use.

Fifth)   If the Dragonmint T1  did 17th at 1610 watts  people would be happy

Note 4 and 5 are kind of linked in my mind

@ frodocooper  please leave in  number 4  + 5  as  it shows that halong does make at least one miner at spec



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20434  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: April 12, 2018, 05:44:19 PM
All the longer term people myself included  are getting  15.10-15.50 th  and  high power draw at kwatt meters 1610-1679 watts


here are 4 miners  all dragonmint T1

http://ckpool.org/#/miners

10   16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr   52.6TH/s   6.86TH/s   1.06TH/s   4   151,513,653   71926881   99%   149,647,249   0.00010664

5th one comes today.  yet to do firmware.  and with buysolar  going to China  for avalon training.  WE  won't be doing firmware upgrades for 10-12 days.

http://ckpool.org/users/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

Code:
{ "hashrate1m": "47.5T",
 "hashrate5m": "51.5T",
 "hashrate1hr": "52.3T",
 "hashrate1d": "7.04T",
 "hashrate7d": "1.09T",
 "lastshare": 1523555166,
 "workers": 4,
 "shares": 155588026,
 "bestshare": 71926881.0,
 "lns": 155490551.0319391,
 "luck": 0.99,
 "accumulated": 0.0,
 "postponed": 0,
 "herp": 153579463.8499269,
 "derp": 0.00010981,
 "worker": [
  
{   "workername": "16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr",
   "hashrate1m": "16.8T",
   "hashrate5m": "15.6T",
   "hashrate1hr": "14.9T",
   "hashrate1d": "2.23T",
   "hashrate7d": "356G",
   "lastshare": 1523555166,
   "shares": 51197348,
   "bestshare": 46560041.0,
   "lns": 51149279.53356265,
   "luck": 0.98,
   "herp": 50041893.57564008 },
  

{   "workername": "16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr.1",
   "hashrate1m": "13.2T",
   "hashrate5m": "14.4T",
   "hashrate1hr": "14.1T",
   "hashrate1d": "1.61T",
   "hashrate7d": "245G",
   "lastshare": 1523555164,
   "shares": 34952024,
   "bestshare": 14891097.0,
   "lns": 34933432.40331987,
   "luck": 0.99,
   "herp": 34640467.89135998},


  {   "workername": "16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr.3",
   "hashrate1m": "8.68T",
   "hashrate5m": "9.86T",
   "hashrate1hr": "9.28T",
   "hashrate1d": "1.06T",
   "hashrate7d": "160G",
   "lastshare": 1523555166,
   "shares": 22667036,
   "bestshare": 71926881.0,
   "lns": 22658768.03643432,
   "luck": 1.0,
   "herp": 22753215.19745399 },
  
{   "workername": "16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr.4",
   "hashrate1m": "11.2T",
   "hashrate5m": "12.3T",
   "hashrate1hr": "14.1T",
   "hashrate1d": "2.14T",
   "hashrate7d": "328G",
   "lastshare": 1523555158,
   "shares": 46771618,
   "bestshare": 20443977.0,
   "lns": 46749071.35786068,
   "luck": 0.99,
   "herp": 46143887.48471056 }
 ]
}




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20435  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: April 12, 2018, 12:27:55 PM
Gear seems to hash at 15.5 pulling 1625 watts
I will be waiting for some firmware links.

It is not the

16.0    at 1480

I did get a b52  which has nothing to do with this thread.
but it is from the same company


the b52 is doing

4.10 th spec is 3.83th

at 1500 watts spec is 1380 watts.   that is good enough



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20436  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: April 12, 2018, 12:20:17 PM
Have you tried the new firmware?

My gut feeling tells me that if they don't go bust. the next iteration of their machine will be very good.

IF

The firmware link is not up.



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20437  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread! on: April 12, 2018, 04:07:22 AM
L3+ only $462 - $200 coupon.
They must have a new more powerful model coming out??

Was thinking that myself.  I have a couple $420 coupons was thinking of getting some of those for next to nothing.

Only $220 or below coupons work for this batch of L3+.

good to know I used a 200  and paid

462 + 99 = 561 - 200 = 361

Do you have any $200 coupons for sale ?

I can give you a 100 for free.




Thank you Phil - Used a coupon, worked out well.

I think I ended up buying 11 of them but a little slower to start would have saved me some money.

I paid about 800 or 850   on average for the 11.

I like the clock to 312
the watts drop to 680
the fans are 24%
20438  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: April 12, 2018, 03:17:00 AM
tired shutting them off and going to sleep.
I will bring them to solar array using different internet connection.

maybe they will speed up.

it is nice they do 15.5 or 15.6 th out of 16.0 spec  that is about -3%

but 1610 to 1709 watts   on four tests  with different meters = not so nice.

I have some titanium psus I will trust them in a few days.

1610 watts with the 2400 watt plat delta and 15.6 th my best so far.

to be fair all tests were 2 hours maybe I need do  6hr or 12hr or 1 day test.
20439  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: April 12, 2018, 02:04:22 AM
I am frustrated.

I do 15500 and  1650 watts

give or take 2 %  on multiple  units  with multiple psus.

neither unit tested  is at spec.

1650/15500 = 0.1064
1480/16000 = 0.0925

0.0925 x 1.08 =  0.09999  which means I am out of spec.

I will do more tests.



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20440  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Evga 1080ti hybrid for sale 2 of them on: April 12, 2018, 01:56:17 AM
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