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2061  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will plummet to $10 by first half of 2014 on: August 04, 2014, 05:48:19 PM
Williams also suggested that he is not alone in this prediction

I guess all the others are keeping their mouths shut.  Tongue
2062  Local / India / Re: India 4th most likely country to adopt bitcoin on: August 04, 2014, 05:23:24 PM
The size of the informal ("black") economy is one of the factors that they used. China's ranking came down because of this.
My guess is India scored big on this parameter.  Grin
2063  Economy / Economics / Re: How much do you value your credit score? on: August 04, 2014, 05:21:17 PM
I make sure that I am not late on credit card payments.
Have not bothered to check my credit score, though.
2064  Local / India / India 4th most likely country to adopt bitcoin on: August 04, 2014, 05:18:14 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/argentina-most-likely-adopt-bitcoin/

India finds itself in elite company - Argentina, Venezuela, Zimbabwe  Tongue

2065  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans in BTC on: August 04, 2014, 05:11:30 PM
Say BTC does become the currency that people rely on.  How would a loan system work?  I would imagine people would still need to take out loans for large purchases, such as cars and houses.

Without a credit system how does something like that play out?  Would credit cards in BTC exist, and you still received a credit score that allowed you to take out money for a house?  The fluctuation of the BTC price definitely makes it difficult for that model to work.  

I am all about Bitcoins, but I can't seem to wrap my head around this part of society that exists, and is still required with our current mentality.

Not sure if this is the right location for this, but I figured this would be a good place to start.

It is literally no different than cash with regards to loans. Sure theoretically someone could run off with Bitcoin... but, the same could be said for cash loans. It's all about credit scores. Someone with a $25,000 credit could refuse to repay, but over time they've proven that unlikely. The same will go for Bitcoin. No one is going to loan you 10,000 BTC anonymously, but if you stake your credit or collateral on it, they may.

Would a default on a bilateral BTC loan mess up a person's credit score?
If not, then a person with a good credit score might also refuse to pay...
2066  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: August 04, 2014, 05:08:45 PM
Bitcoin is a gold of future

Yes, it's banned in Russia... Grin

So are a lot of other things.
Doesn't mean that it is not used.  Tongue
2067  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is a hot target for criminals and money launderers. on: August 04, 2014, 05:07:04 PM
Byrne has long complained about investors using various loopholes in the financial markets to improperly boost profits at the expense of public companies and the overall economy—with Overstock even going so far as to sue some of the biggest names on Wall Street

http://www.wired.com/2014/07/overstock-and-cryptocurrency/

Interesting article.  I'm having a hard time imagining the advantages and disadvantages of cryptosecurities, but I guess there are still a lot of details to be fleshed out.  So I'm really not sure yet what issues it would solve.  But, as he points out, it would eliminate high-frequency trading...at least probably.  I could see someone figuring out a way to do it anyway, but it would probably be very difficult.

One of the things it could do is broaden the investor base.
Somebody sitting in rural India could invest in US stocks, which is not possible now.

The last first thing a peasant in India would want to do is to invest in the US stocks! Smiley

You will never know until you give him the choice.  Smiley
2068  Economy / Economics / Re: Is 1 bitcoin a decent and good investment? on: August 04, 2014, 05:04:05 PM
1 btc is decent investment. Rest assured that he owns 1/20M of total wealth some day in the future.

1/21M of total money supply, not wealth.  Wink
2069  Economy / Services / Re: [DiceBitco.in] [Make the most out of your sig!] Make coins by simply posting! on: August 04, 2014, 05:01:04 PM
first post says:

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You need AT LEAST 50 posts minimum to claim the reward

And

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Maximum 400 posts will be counted per month, minimum 20.


Is the minimum to claim payment 20 or 50 posts?

Guess it was 20 initially and now has been edited to 50.
You should have 50 posts, just to be sure of collecting...  Wink
2070  Local / India / Re: [ANN] Secret Bitcoin Project has been unvieled as Stellar on: August 04, 2014, 04:59:24 PM
I hardly use FB, I've told friends to do this and I gave them some funds Smiley
So they kept spreading it to get more funds..

2BTC - That's a lot of helpful friends.  Smiley
2071  Economy / Marketplace / Re: i'm glad there are so many scams and frauds on: August 04, 2014, 04:53:47 PM
Currently Blockchain.info estimates USD transaction volume at $40M daily. Are there any statistic regarding total fraud in Bitcoin transactions?

There are infos about double-spends in the blockchain, but they are understimated, as far I know.


And that much of scam and fraud are people too used to be inprisioned by the banking system, that when they are free they don't know how to act. Plus people looking for easy money.

Wouldn't this primarily relate to 0/1 confirmation transactions, which would be small amounts?
For larger amounts, wouldn't people wait for 6 confirmations, thereby eliminating double spending risk?
2072  Economy / Economics / Re: Is 1 bitcoin a decent and good investment? on: August 04, 2014, 01:52:17 AM
Wouldn't hurt having one lying around, I just to. But I spent most of it, gonna get there again tho Smiley

Same here. Have a fraction of a BTC currently. But hope to get there soon.  Grin
2073  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: August 04, 2014, 01:51:07 AM
I will take away the BTC . BTC than gold more valuable.
gold bull market has come to an end, the crazy BTC has only just begun

Gold is a buy; it is reliable and wanted, it is very scarce and has proven itself through time

Bitcoin is a buy as well obviously!

It is the proportion of gold vs BTC in your portfolio which counts.  Smiley
2074  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is a hot target for criminals and money launderers. on: August 04, 2014, 01:47:31 AM
Byrne has long complained about investors using various loopholes in the financial markets to improperly boost profits at the expense of public companies and the overall economy—with Overstock even going so far as to sue some of the biggest names on Wall Street

http://www.wired.com/2014/07/overstock-and-cryptocurrency/

Interesting article.  I'm having a hard time imagining the advantages and disadvantages of cryptosecurities, but I guess there are still a lot of details to be fleshed out.  So I'm really not sure yet what issues it would solve.  But, as he points out, it would eliminate high-frequency trading...at least probably.  I could see someone figuring out a way to do it anyway, but it would probably be very difficult.

One of the things it could do is broaden the investor base.
Somebody sitting in rural India could invest in US stocks, which is not possible now.
2075  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Argentina the cyprus of 2014? on: August 04, 2014, 01:44:31 AM
This is about Argentina defaulting on its bonds.  Bonds are denominated in USD so they can't print pesos to get out of mess.   Not comparable to Cyprus situation.  Cypriots bought bitcoin because imposed bank holiday

Stop thinking everything is good for bitcoin.  LOL  Roll Eyes

If Argentinians could buy USD, they would.
Depends on whether BTC is easier to lay hands on, or USD.
In the end, it could be good for bitcoin.

Did you read the story?   Agentina is defaulting on some bonds.   What does this have to go people converting their currency

The link is Argentina defaults --> Harder to get external credit --> More printing of pesos --> High Inflation.
In the end, people will have to look after themselves, if their pesos get devalued very quickly.
2076  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Yet another protest "Save Our Savers" - Inflation is destroying your savings. on: August 04, 2014, 01:39:56 AM
On a separate note, dividends and interest can be considered as returns to share holders/bond holders.
The differential treatment on these two should be removed.

That would solve the protest on taxes (apart from inflation) eating into savings.
2077  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: General Advice to someone new on: August 04, 2014, 01:36:42 AM
You can sometimes trust others to hold your bitcoin for you if you can reasonably determine that they are trusted, however you should only allow them to hold your bitcoin for short periods of time. Just because someone is trusted today does not mean they should or would be trusted tomorrow.

On the issue of trust, make sure you go through this thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=33835.0
2078  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Everyone of my friends says the same: "How do I get Bitcoins?" on: August 04, 2014, 01:31:47 AM
Hello ,

Where i can get free bitcoins?

There is no such thing as a free lunch.  Tongue
Try some faucets, to get your first bitcoin.
After that, think of it as 'Where/How can I get some money?'
2079  Economy / Economics / Re: Argentina and Bitcoin - Why has there not been a switch? on: August 03, 2014, 03:19:30 PM

Yeah their import restrictions are brutal. Only way I'd see the people of Argentina being able to easily get bitcoins is for a bitcoin company to startup in argentina that ALSO gives a kickback to the government. IE the company charges market price + their own fee + small extra fee for kickback to government. That way the more people that buy bitcoin with the peso, the more money the government also makes. Otherwise I don't see their government approving any outflow of pesos to other stores of value.

The people of Argentina would probably go for this type of business model....considering that their inflation this year will probably be >30%, I'd doubt they would mind a 2% extra fee as a government kickback in order to offset the inflation that will take place on their peso.

Essentially the government agreeing to replace the peso by BTC, and then taxing the people. Cheesy
2080  Economy / Economics / Re: Global Financial Crisis scenarios on: August 03, 2014, 03:09:28 PM

So they want to collapse?

"Oh, interest spiked?

Print another 185 billion dollars, halve our currency value, have people start dumping our dollars, and move on to something else, leaving us with a really poor exchange rate and decimated purchasing power."

Yeah, the US is doomed.

So is half the world, with their huge dollar holdings.
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