It is at the moment when we decide to exceed our spending per day in the game that we cross the line which is called addiction. If we think about winning, then this is a direct path to losing. But naturally, the vast majority think about it and enter the game.
Watching professional players, I noticed that they have a fire inside that drives them to develop in order to know all the subtleties. I would even say they have an addiction on the edge, with which they know how to balance on a thin thread, but almost never fall.
Many people have experienced this and even become seriously addicted to gambling. They cannot stay within their limits because there is a temptation to continue gambling, so they decide to exceed their budget limits. This will happen to people trying to chase victory because they don't think about ending their gambling but still want another win. Professional players have all the abilities to overcome problems that may arise while they are gambling so that they will not become addicted. They already know what to do if something bothers them, such as greed to chase more wins. And they are different from most gamblers in that they can avoid gambling addiction. That's why we need to learn to gamble responsibly from them so that we don't experience big losses. |
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People who uses gambling as their source of money to people who gambling as addiction I see them differently, cause for sure those people who gambling for as their income could control and manage themselves, has their own way to limit losses and increase the chances of profits though gambling is literally based on luck but if you use your skills and techniques you could literally won like in the poker. As for the people who's addicted in gambling, their only aim is to win, not really thinking of the risk and worse situation might happen. Cause if you're only aiming for win for sure you wouldn't notice losses and also what you're staking such as properties, body , debt or even death.
Yes, those are two different things. People who use gambling as their main source of income will find it difficult to earn money because they will experience losses, which may be more than the wins they get. They will probably spend more money than people who only use gambling as a way to have fun. Those who want to make money from gambling have the possibility of experiencing a gambling addiction if they cannot limit their gambling, especially if they often experience losing money. Maybe people who use their skills to gamble can make money, but only a few can, while others will still lose their money. So we must understand that gambling is not a main source of income but a means to have fun using money. |
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I wonder how much tax money someone can generate with gambling when they drift off into an alcohol addiction after they lost everything and then destroy their liver, need medical care for years and maybe even a liver transplant and all kind of other treatments that you still think the tax money that person generated with gambling outweighs the cost society is bearing for that permanent patient they now have to take care of. I can't think of a state (except for some of these little islands maybe) that prefers to make money from gambling because they think it is overall profitable for society/the state. If people develop issues because of gambling or exacerbate existing preconditions due to gambling, I think that is more costly to society than the tax that person has to pay. In fact, if someone goes broke that person might have to claim welfare. The tax money that the state can obtain may be very large, but we don't know the exact amount. If the tax money is obtained from the gambling business and not from someone, it can help the country's economy. The state manages the tax money to build various facilities that can help people experience these facilities and use them well. If someone goes bankrupt because of gambling, it is his fault because he cannot be responsible for gambling. After all, no one had advised him to continue gambling until he spent all his money. But perhaps the government would still be kind enough to help this person to live a decent life as long as he doesn't repeat his actions, even though there is no guarantee that he will leave gambling. |
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I can guarantee you that 'o respectful member will make a list of "trusted casinos" and post it here. Doesn' t matter how good the casino is or for how long it has been running, no one will accept to tie his reputation with it. If you recommend a casino to someone and then the casino pull an exit scam then it's your reputation that will be ruined and no one will trust you anymore because of your bad judgement. We determine which casinos are trustworthy and which are scam casinos based on reviews made by members here. They write down the names of casinos that they think are comfortable for gambling, they choose them because the casinos are big and can be trusted with a reputation (perhaps this is based on the large number of people who gamble at that casino), and they also give their opinions about scam casinos so that people looking for casinos do not have to experience fraud. We don't tell them to register, but we help them by mentioning the names of the casinos so that they can save time to do further research on the casinos immediately. After we get more detailed information about the casino and feel sure it is the one we are looking for, we register at the casino and start gambling. |
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That's right, gambling is just a matter of luck in the person who gambles. If we gamble because of a hobby or to entertain ourselves, of course we won't regret it if one day we lose, and it's different if someone gambles to earn income. There is still doubt because we cannot predict when we will be lucky or win, maybe we will lose. Yes, I agree with you, no matter how good we are at gambling, one day we will definitely lose and if we can't manage the money we bet, of course we will regret it and in the end, like it or not, we will lose and we have to be ready to accept this.
And if they haven't been lucky, they don't need to force themselves to continue gambling, especially if they have lost several times. They should immediately stop gambling and leave the casino before all their money is gone. Never make gambling a hobby because it is a very expensive hobby, and it is better to choose other activities as a hobby, especially those that do not use a lot of money. And we will never know when we can win because we can only gamble as usual and just try to enjoy our gambling time. |
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Yeah, I think the main fantasy of gamblers is that they think if they stop for the night and come back another day it's all reset. In reality, it doesn't matter if you stop and come back another day or continue gambling, the money losses keep accumulating. Even though that is just their fantasy or wish, it will not turn out like that. Gamblers must be aware that winning in gambling is not easy, especially in slot games where they have to have luck to win. They can only prepare the money to play slots, determine how many bets they can afford, enjoy each round, and wait for the final result. And yes, the money losses will still accumulate. But if they could think twice, of course, they wouldn't want to take the risk of playing slots for too long, let alone increasing their bets. That will speed up the loss of their money, and everything will end badly because they lose their money. |
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This kind of awareness does not seem to be available to everyone and most gamblers when faced with a loss but still have a certain amount of money it is likely that what they will do is deposit back the amount of money they have to be able to continue the gambling session because they are thinking about betting again maybe able to have a win to recover previous losses. But there are still a few gamblers who always think that if they lose and deposit another amount of money there will only be a loss so they don't deposit money and prefer to gamble again in the next few days if they feel they can have luck to win. Not many gamblers still have money when faced with losses, but they still try to recover their losses by continuing to gamble with the remaining money. But it won't be easy, especially if they don't have luck because gambling will be associated with luck. If they don't have money, they will deposit another amount of money to go back to gambling, and this can be dangerous because they can spend it in the next session. Yes, there are still gamblers who can still think clearly about not depositing any more money because they think it will only lead to more losses. We also have to think like that so that we don't experience a lot of defeats, and we don't need to have thoughts about achieving a certain winning target because it won't be easy. ~snip~
It all depends on a person goals in gambling and also finances whether they are chasing victory to be able to collect profits or just to have fun and enjoy every bit of adrenaline that can be obtained with the money that has been set. If you want to have fun maybe $75 a month can still get pleasure and there will be multiples that make it possible to increase your existing capital if luck is on your side. I myself gamble once a week and have a maximum limit of $30 to $40 per week although sometimes it can be more if I have extra money that can be received when lost but at least there is never such a thing as chasing or targeting winning because having fun is the most dominant thing gambling. It will never be easy to chase win, especially since gambling is not a place to make money. We can only have fun, enjoy every gambling game, and stop before it's too late. I use $75 a month, and it won't run out, especially since I'm not the type of active gambler who always gambles because perhaps in a week, I can only spare 3-5 times and gamble for too long. That's good for you because you can control your gambling, although sometimes you can gamble more if you have more money, and that's normal. I do too. And we agree never to chase a win because it is difficult to get, especially for small gamblers like us. |
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well, if the situation has changed, unlike what I said before, there are other ways, after blocking gambling advertisements or any effort to prevent advertisements from entering your smartphone, there are other ways to prevent young people from gambling just because of their high curiosity when seeing gambling advertisements friend smartphone. so its like this, if the efforts I mentioned can not prevent all of this, parents must have an approach to their children to provide knowledge regarding any dangers related to accessing gambling so that slowly as parents they will provide knowledge that indoctrinates their children thinking to be afraid of accessing gambling and will not carry out any gambling activity after being given knowledge of the dangers of being addicted to gambling. so this method will be more appropriate for those of us who have concerns as parents about preventing our children from gambling. Parents' approach to their children must be gradual and should not be seen as a strict rule for their children because they will rebel. Parents need to understand their children's thoughts by inviting them to discuss many things. Then, parents can provide useful suggestions or input for their children. And regarding the advertisements on their smartphones, if parents can understand their children, there will be no curiosity because their children will think about the dangers of gambling if they get involved. Parents must be able to think creatively and outside the box if they want to provide understanding to their children because nowadays, teenagers are much more developed than they were a few years ago. They are smarter in many things, so if parents are less creative, parents may find it difficult to handle their children. |
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I think that we should not get carried away by these KYC things, because those are the excuses that the casinos and the different entities come up with to control, they also say that the KYC is the best for when there is no problem, that it is easier to determine and recover if there is a hack, I say that this is simple excuses, first if children who are 12-14 years old, if they enter a casino that has or requires a KYC, it is the total responsibility of their parents who have to be supervising them, It is not a problem of the casino, nor because the casino does not have KYC, that is only the worst thing they can tell us, there are many stories that they invent, also if a hack occurs, if they have a KYC they will steal the data plus the money of the players, it is a lie that they are going to return your money, unless it is a casino like stake.com that has a great capacity to respond to any problem like this, otherwise, to look for the money and resonmder would be done through the ID of the player and that's it, plus if something like this happens it is the responsibility of ciasno to respond for all the money of the players where something is stolen from them, so you don't have to get carried away by what they say, that's like the myths, with those things it's that the dominance of the big guys begins, KYC will never be good, privacy, anonymity, everything ends. In another aspect, it could be said that those who are Pro KYC will always say things like this, there is nothing else they can do, in this order of ideas we can think that some things like these are what they always say so that people comply obligatorily and They tell you that in some way they are protected and no, it is not like that, what I recommend is that if you have a favorite casino, then they must comply with the KYC requirement so that you can play calmly and make a good withdrawal, I am not of those who leave KYC in each casino, I am one of those who leave KYC in the casinos that I consider are worth doing and that can always be fulfilled so that they do the best. The point is that teenagers who are used to using their devices can easily find a casino and start gambling. They will not think about KYC at the casino because they gamble just out of curiosity, even though in the future, there will be teenagers who will continue to gamble, and in the end, they will be asked to do KYC by the casino. And even if the casino asks for KYC, there is a possibility that teenagers can do it easily because they can borrow an adult's ID and then do the KYC. But if they don't want to do KYC, they can look for another casino that won't be too strict in terms of KYC so they can continue gambling. |
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They only show off their winning moments to their followers so they can get additional followers at the casino. And perhaps they also get paid by the casino to do this so that more people will join.
A better way to manage funds on gambling sites is to deposit the amount you can afford and withdraw the winnings so that you are not tempted to continue gambling. And don't keep your winnings for too long in the casino because that could make you want to use the winnings to gamble.
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Rare for rich people since they can afford to lose more than that and they cannot follow it even if they promise to have proper financial plan on gambling especially when they are been much enjoying on what he do. For other have enough money then provably its hard for them to lose that and they are more aware that they should not spend any larger than that since they might go broke with that. Those aware that they should not spend more money than that will not try to exceed the limit because they are not thinking about making money from gambling. They cannot afford to lose large amounts of money, so they always stay within their limits. Having a winning target that must be achieved will feel more difficult because we face loss that may come to us more often than wins. It's time for us to realize this and only gamble with enough money and don't have a winning target. ~snip~
A budget for a month with 500$ as bet I think it is pretty normal for a gambler who gambles twice or once a month only. He can still achieve good amount of money, if he is not so greedy but then I think if someone has this limit it means that they are just gamble for fun or maybe he is a seasoned gambler he know his limit same as to his capacity to gambler . For me, I would also limit myself to around 100$ a month. I use probably less than $75 a month because that's the amount I can afford. I also don't try to deposit any other money, especially if I lose control. I still often experience loss of self-control, which causes me almost to lose all the money I have. And if that happens, I prefer not to gamble for a while to lower my emotions so I don't keep remembering the moment. But I could only gamble a few times a month, so I don't need much money to gamble once. After all, I gamble just for fun. ~snip~
Yes and I think maybe it's only for people who have a large income like for example conglomerates who want to try their luck at the gambling table, it makes sense as you said only for the big guys. But I will also add a little maybe there are also some people who have ordinary income but can gamble with a budget of that size, do you know how they do that? for an addicted person it is very possible to do anything just for the sake of gambling, and maybe even though that person does not have a large income but they have other ways such as selling all the assets they have or even committing criminal acts to get a lot of money and gamble. If someone has the courage to do something like that then surely his addiction will increase and in the next few days it is very likely that he will bring much more capital, and yes I said that person soon might be stressed or even suicidal. I think that amount is quite rare for gamblers to spend, and yes it is a gamble so it is very important to put very strict limits, rather than you end up stressed or in debt. So the point is to gamble with the intention of having fun - just fun. Don't set any targets even if it's only $10 because to get even this small amount you might end up spending $1000. Those who have a lot of money can gamble for a long time and will not think about how much money they have used to gamble or how much they have left because they must have deposited an amount they think is enough to gamble that day. A gambling addict will use unusual methods to get their money and may use the methods you have mentioned. The important thing is, if they have money, they will do anything, so they will do something difficult for others to understand. And it's true that will only increase the level of gambling addiction to a very serious level. We must avoid stress or get into debt because it is a big mistake if we experience it just because of gambling. It's better to start now by making clear boundaries and trying not to cross them so we don't experience difficulties or experience defeat. |
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It would be very careless if we spent the money we have on gambling all at once or spent it on just one game. And I have a friend who is very careless when gambling, where when he gets some money he will gamble and what is even more stupid is that he ignores his needs and obligations and prioritizes his gambling because he has a mindset like that when he wins big, then all his needs and obligations will fulfilled. and I don't want to experience the same thing as my friend experienced, so I always try and look for ways to regulate the gambling that I do. That will make us sad because we don't have money that can be used to gamble the next day or a few days later, and we are forced to deposit another amount of money into our gambling account. It could exceed the budget we have set if we deposit another amount of money just because we were careless in using all the money to gamble that day. Maybe we don't need to deposit much money into our gambling account, but just what is necessary to anticipate greed that can arise at any time. We also don't know when we will lose self-control because it can happen anytime. And that's why it's better for us not to save money in a gambling account to avoid things like that. |
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If it was easy to get maxwin then the casino would go bankrupt  Yes, that's right, previously I lost continuously until finally I got maxwin, and if I calculated maxwin I couldn't get back the money I lost. I played buffalo king megaways slot continuously because of chasing maxwin, but it was a bad experience because it cost me a lot of money. Correct. But if only I could get it, the casino obviously wouldn't go bankrupt yet I've never had a maxwin, but I'm not trying to catch him. I don't know how many rounds it takes to get the maxwin. That is why you need a lot of luck if you want to get the maxwin. Not many can get it, and only those who are really very lucky can get it. ~snip~
I used to like playing the Gates of Olympus slot, but now I rarely play it. It's very difficult to get good multiplication. For me, the results are always bad I rarely play Gates of Olympus because too many people play it. I prefer slot games that have just been released because they provide a different experience and feel from other slot games that I have played. |
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Those decent casino review sites are just relying to the feedbacks written on the threads of casinos here. There's only few gives fair reviews and most of those sites are givint 4.5 - 5 star rating to well known scam casino so we need to ignore them. Searching for trusted casino is good to be done here since eventhough we didn't test them yet, there are other people tried it and willing to give warning or feedbacks to those people want to try the risk. That's true, and we also don't need to risk scams if we get those reviews from outside this forum. Looking for the casinos in this forum is more than enough because many people will test them and give honest reviews to all the members of this forum. We can also reduce the search time by getting a list of trusted casinos on this forum. And if some forum members suspect the casino, they warn you not to take risks before everything becomes clear. And that is an advantage for us because we can avoid cases we don't want. |
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I`ve got it in one VIP group  It is joke of course I`ve told before, may be even in this thread, that i was in one real group where i`ve got good predictions with the nice odds. We paid the part of the profit, so the owners were interested in our success. Yesterday i just asked for few fresh predictions to my last post. PS. It doesn`t mean that someone need to join such groups again and again. It will help him to lose money only. Hahaha, you are making a joke. If possible, you can create a new thread containing those predictions so that we can also benefit from them Finding the VIP group is difficult, especially with the subscription fee, which may not be cheap. Those who want to keep looking for the VIP group must be prepared for all the possibilities. And if they are hesitant about joining any VIP groups, they shouldn't have to. ~snip~
Most of the legitimate groups are those that know which games are fixed. If they only rely on their skills, there's still no assurance that a particular bet will win. They might win most of the time, but I don't think they would encourage disciplined bankroll management, as it may not help them maximize their profit. I believe the larger the bets bettors place, the more they can earn, similar to a commission based on winning bets. However, if a bet loses, they bear no responsibility. Finding such groups is indeed difficult, so it's often better to believe in yourself and learn from your mistakes. Who knows, you might improve and eventually become profitable. I agree that it is better to learn independently and believe in yourself, especially with your analysis. By learning on our own, we can at least try to develop our analytical skills to be even better, and we also don't need to spend money to pay subscription fees. It's okay if we lose a match because we may miss information, so our analysis is less precise in predicting who will win. But that's gambling, where we really need always to improve our analytical skills. |
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Well that's right, some online casinos have now begun to use unusual ways, they have dared to appear in the public eye in several social media platforms, even though for example the government that does not legalize gambling has removed all their promotional content but still when the government removes one it will grow ten, they don't seem to want to lose to whatever comes to try to disrupt or regulate them. And indeed this is a big problem for us as a society and especially for parents who must be able to keep a close eye on what their children are doing, as you said, now there are a lot of online promotions and a lot of them are circulating on our devices such as smartphones, so this is very risky, especially for children who are still underage, it is very possible that they end up seeing and feeling curious, apart from that as we know that children who are still underage have a high level of curiosity about whatever comes to them. It's true that we as parents must really be able to filter all of that, not only for parents who have minors but for all people. In my opinion, the only way is that we must limit everything our children do, do not give access to anything that has the opportunity to know gambling, such as limiting the use of smartphones. That is why online casinos can always survive when there is a rejection or removal of advertisements made by the casino. They can still create other advertisements and distribute them to many sites easily. And this makes parents pay more attention to their children, especially children who are starting to reach adolescence because adolescence is a time when they try to want to know many things. As parents, we cannot fully supervise them daily because we are also busy with work. But at least we can still pay attention to them, and this attention is not only about giving them what they want but also paying attention to their situation and talking to them so that we understand their world. If necessary, we can also try to get to know his friends so that we can contact them if necessary. Limiting their access to the internet could be one solution, but we also have to be able to explain to them why we are doing it so that they don't misunderstand our intentions. ~snip~
Yes, maybe blocking might be one of the effective things we can do to prevent our children from having the opportunity to know about gambling, but I don't think it will be completely successful because over time some promotions will definitely reappear, as we know the development of the social media world is very fast and maybe some casinos have various ways that are smarter than us. But yeah I wouldn't say it's wrong because it's one of the pretty good alternatives and we should still do it as a precaution. And besides social media, it would be nice if we also as parents must continue to pay attention to our children's socialization in the environment, because it can also be very influential. Keep them away from environments that are not good and can be detrimental, limit their time to play. Regardless of anything, I agree with your advice, and it is true that this is an obligation that all parents must do in the midst of gambling which is now increasingly widespread, there is nothing wrong with us trying because this is also for the good of all of us, especially children whose future is still far away. Yes, I also think about the possibility that could happen because with the progress of the internet, as it is now, they can find casinos easily, let alone deal with blocking problems, because I see many teenagers who can unblock certain sites they are not allowed to visit. And that makes many teenagers go down the wrong path, putting them in difficulties they and their parents have never faced. Moreover, the development of social media has also advanced so that it can be a place for teenagers to learn many things. Parents should always be concerned about providing supervision and attention to their children so they don't go wrong. And I think if parents can approach their children well, they will understand and try not to take the wrong path because their parents will always guide them. ~snip~
first of all, we have to consider how old our child is and if he is under 12 years old, it is quite easy because in certain countries, as long as the smartphone used is never used to search for gambling, I am sure that gambling advertisements will never appear in any media and another way, there are several social media that currently have features for minors, so as parents you can activate this feature so that advertisements sensitive to minors will be automatically blocked from these media. but for children over 15 years old it will be a little more difficult because in this era of advanced technology, many young people know any way to access whatever they want, so the most appropriate effort is to always check and limit their children use of smartphone, even though it seems restrictive, but this is for the good because gambling advertisements are now mushrooming everywhere, even in countries where gambling is prohibited, advertisements will still appear on any social media. The advertisements won't appear on their smartphones, but the ads can appear on their friend's smartphones when hanging out. It will make them want to know more about the site, and sooner or later, they will try gambling. The curiosity of today's teenagers is greater than that of teenagers in previous years, so parents need to be closer to their children so they can provide understanding. |
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It makes me laugh to see how much trouble fiat gamblers have with bank payments. It's 2023, and they're still waiting for deal approvals while doing nothing? I've had the pleasure of playing with crypto, and it's a whole other world. Instant transfers? Check. Anonymity? Double check. I don't understand why someone would choose the old ways Though, I want to give a warning. With rapid transactions comes there are impulses to play more. Crypto may speed up the process, but it also makes loses happen faster. It has two sides. Don't forget that you shouldn't do something just because you can. And yes, everyone has a different experience, but the rules of the game don't change. Play smart, or don't play at all Yes, that's what still happens in fiat casinos, but I don't know because I don't know much about fiat casinos either. I just feel lucky to know a crypto casino that can provide many conveniences, and I am grateful that I never gambled at a fiat casino before. Yes, crypto casinos already provide many benefits to their gamblers, and I think more people will switch to using crypto casinos. You said it right. Crypto also has its positive and negative impacts. We can only use the positive, but we also need to know the negative to avoid it and not have to experience it. And it's true, play smart or don't play at all. |
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This should be an announcement thread of yours but it seems that you want to discuss in here because it's placed on gambling discussion.
While it's truly a top priority of most casinos for the sake of their customers. They have to give that confidence that gambler's money and deposits are all safe.
But on this term, having a high security shouldn't be just on words. It's easy to say that a casino has a top notch security but you'll never know what's next.
To be honest, adding a 2-FA is one of those security measures that has been overlooked. While it may sound simple, it provides such extra layer of security that defeats any kind of scam attempt due to having another device in order to confirm a given transaction. Though this may be the case, I do hope that there is another layer of security on top of the 2-FA for maximum control. While 2-FA is proven to be an excellent source of security, adding another top of layer would make it impossible for someone to hack or infringe on this. 2FA is becoming one of the ways to secure one's gambling account, and casinos always advise them to enable it. If the casino can provide comprehensive protection for its business, it will make the casino a business that can provide a sense of security and comfort to its customers. Casinos must always update their security so that there are no loopholes that hackers can exploit. But we must remain careful because we don't know how hackers penetrate the casino's security system. And for that reason, we don't need to keep our coins in the casino to avoid things we don't want. |
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If there are no land based casinos or online casinos, due to the fact that it is an offense. Gambling will be done secretly by gamblers, especially gambling with friends and neighbors. Sportbet can also be done in pairs by individuals. It is only in the Muslim countries that I can say gambling activities wouldn't be possible. Although gambling is dangerous to human financial status, if he can't control his gambling activities.
For sure and that's the problem of the government that tries to ban gambling, these gamblers will sneak on what they're addicted to. Well, culture play a huge part for Muslims but we are all different especially on what we believe in. I think it's best that it's legal rather than making it illegal but if it's legal supervision should be present too. The government could make gambling legal to attract tourists to visit their country, but they must listen to the suggestions of all community leaders. This is necessary to be able to see whether making gambling legal will provide positive benefits for their country or even have a positive impact on society. But especially for Muslim countries, gambling will not be legalized because it is haram for them. And people will oppose it if there is such discourse. So maybe gambling can develop more in other countries, especially Asia, because many people like to gamble in that country. |
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Yep, using credit card will make the gamblers can't control themselves because they might lost count and bear to high in the end of month. Using crypto or real money will make them aware how much the money they have and the maximum the money they can to gamble. Although there's a chance someone might ask a loan to gamble, at least preventing by not let them to gamble directly using credit card could decrease this problem. You are right. It can cause difficulties for those who gamble with credit cards. They will not realize that they have used a lot of money to gamble because in fact, at that time, they did not spend any money at all. But later, at the end of the month or the beginning of the month, they have to pay their debt to the credit card company. And if they can't control themselves while gambling, they may incur quite a large debt depending on how much money they use. So it's best not to gamble using a credit or debit card because it can make us lose money. |
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