This is a signal next gen die shrink is in place... already the Japanese (a different company) started taking orders/contracts from big players...
Well if we do 10nm then 7nm That will be the end of the line. As smaller then 7nm is not going to happen very easy. 14/16nm has proved to have legs in terms of time. My guess 10nm and then 7nm will stick around for long time periods |
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I've never experienced a heated thread with a lot of "high" ranking members before. This is truly "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen"... *takes out popcorn and enjoys the show* One thing is clear out of this, there has to be a way, for transparent accountability no matter what level one is on. Just a suggestion *retreats back into seat*
There are difficult issues for trust guys to deal with . I pruned my list and dropped from 700 to 375 score. I had already left 70 plus people out that if I put on trust my list would jump over 1000 score. I will later check those 70 out and see if I think they should go on the list. And each and every one I list brings my score higher. So I have a built in conflict of interest but it would all be visible and someone like the op would see what i did. My worry is if I only trust people that did not trust me. Then I could have a huge list. With hundreds of people Such as the list on post reporting . I could decide to appoint everyone on that list if they are over 600 with 95% accurate. It shows no conflicts since I don’t pick anyone I trade with. But I am not sure that is a good way to pick people |
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Well. Maybe this is real. I hope to get more info on it.
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Is it sold anywhere else except for Aliexpress and Ebay (where same sellers sell same stuff)? The idea of waiting a month for the mb to arrive isn't very appealing.
I have 1 left new. Are you USA based It fits in a usps game flat rate box I can ship it on Monday . Do want to run Windows or smos Linux? Windows use a i3 or better with a 8gb stick of ram. Linux use a celery stick and 4gb ram |
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@ Dr Mann you have a good point.
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I would love to see a private section added for the DT1 members to chat about who we are adding and why. Why not do this publicly? Transparency is good. The amount of comments would probably make this hard to get done. Maybe if we had a thread that only DT could post in? DarkStar_ beat me to it. Instead of a closed door meeting, I think it would be interesting to read this in public. You could create a self-moderated thread in Reputation, with a local rule that only DT1 members can post there. Delete anything else. A thread filled with DT1 sounds scary enough not to break local rules, and if someone else posts there anyway, just delete it. Also I report posts around 250 with about 97% accuracy.
I have no idea if anyone else does this or should I say it that I don’t know stats on this for anyone else. See Report to Moderator stats [Added few questions for Mods]. Nice info but it only goes to about 600 reported posts and i did 250 or so. so people from 250 to 600 reports are left out. I further changed my trust list -ck CrazyGuy Cablez davecoin Stunna lazlopanaflex buysolar not.you DefaultTrust Blazed btcxcg edonkey HagssFIN wlefever generalt Mikestang vg54dett AriesIV10 VoskCoin is now -ck CrazyGuy Cablez davecoin Stunna lazlopanaflex buysolar not.you DefaultTrust Blazed btcxcg edonkey HagssFIN generalt |
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I have been to a New York Crypto Meet Up I went with buysolar and 2 possible investors.
It was a Russian Tea Room Club Restaurant and around 100 plus people came to it.
So the Meet Up club is real. I don't know anything bout the miner but I certainly would be willing to demo it If I get a model.
I am in Howell NJ under 90 minutes from manhattan in non rush hour traffic.
So @ op shoot me a pm if you want me to do a demo and a few you tube videos.
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philipma1957
260: -0 / +27
45: -0 / +5
+215: +22 (440%)
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I've marked them with these colours:
Ideal, no artificial trust increase
Acceptable, normal
Barely acceptable
Mostly unacceptable but could have been a mistake which must be fixed immediately
Absolutely unacceptable, clear trust manipulation
FWIW, philipma1957 sells a lot of hardware on the forum - in fact, I recently bought a mobo from him - and I suspect he has lots of repeat customers which might skew his positive trust or make it look suspicious. Nothing about philipma1957 is suspect...he has proven him self a 100x over trust wise. OP was just pointing out is that some of his additions to the DT network did not really help the network. I have traded with phil a bunch of times over the years as have many here and we all know he is legit. I think it is a good thing that people audit the DT1 members and should always continue to monitor who we add. I would love to see a private section added for the DT1 members to chat about who we are adding and why. There is not any rules set forth when we get added and we rarely if ever chat about who is added to DT2 and why etc... Why not do this publicly? Transparency is good. I want to mention a few things I looked at my list and could remove more from it. I will. But I have 75 or 76 feedbacks I left out I know I can add more then 10 of them by multiple criteria mentioned here. I don’t because it would help my numbers I would approach 1000 for my score. Yet those people are good for the forum. Also I report posts around 250 with about 97% accuracy. I have no idea if anyone else does this or should I say it that I don’t know stats on this for anyone else. So I can’t know how much anyone helps this way. I can not read pms not that I want to but I have no idea of any good any one does via pms. An example I had no idea this thread was here but someone pm’d me. So that person helped the forum by getting me on the thread. |
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Man, I hear you!! I have been toying with the idea of picking a few up. Throw them on a solo pool and roll the dice.
I have no Balls.....however...I know a guy who has too many (just got them) ...unsure what he paid...but with my 'ABOVE LOGIC' (previous above post on this thread) maybe a 'hedge' for me is to take one off his hands (see previous post calculations) and a hedge for him, in that he may have too many We are friends...MIGHT give ONE to me, for what he got them for...IF he sees the need for this 'hedge' from his direction other than that ..it is Bitmain (thus a trap!) (why do I feel this convoluted logic is simply my way to 'fall off the wagon' (in a small way) back into my ASIC Addiction? on the other hand ....he is an 'optimistic sort' and got them (unlike me) ...so probably will tell me to 'p*ss off' hmmmm you talking bout me  I may order a 7th |
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For a short test, Ill be using one of these as a mining and gaming machine at the same time........ Just to see how well it can handle it. My mSATA and cpu cooler arrived today, so finally time to populate and power this puppy up. good so win 10 with the i3 I sold you if I recall . what size ram? |
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Corsair no, not safe to keep running near max.
I have had EVGA 1300 units running @ close to 92% rated for years now with no issues.
Corsair I will not run above 75%. Just have not had good luck with them in PCs or in mining.
I would not take this as gospel by any means. Corsair is a quality company, IMO; what sort of information are you working with besides anecdotal experiences to come to that conclusion? I can understand having a personal preference, but this seems misleading in the worst way. You are overdue for a failure with your EVGA with the way you run it and I hope you don't then assume EVGA is a bad company, too. I wouldn't run anything above 75%, because I like some equipment to last and I treat it with some respect. they all break when pushed hard. Evga 1600 p2 melted running an s-9 doing 1350 watts 24/7/365 last 2 years 9 months Seasonics 1200 plat 1000 plat melted Evga 750 t2 died Rosewill 1500 watt tokamak running at 1250 for 2 1500s rosewill 1200 watt tokamak all popped caps with a boom running at 1000 for the 1200 fractal 1000 watt plat 90 days dead running at 800 watts all 3 of them I have yet to kill about 15 corsairs but I have since learned and run them more gentle. |
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Until Phil or someone else that isn't Halong makes an actual review of this hardware that shows these miners actually running with substantial proof, this is fine in Mining Speculation. Keep us updated and put the review in Hardware when you get it, Phil! Can't wait to see how the DragonMint actually mines, and the moment when people realize Halong isn't an absolute scam after all  . It's been a while since anything of note that is legit has been released. Yeah I really want to test this out like today , but no new info from MyRig/Yoshi |
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Phillip, what temp was/is your Zotac 1080Ti mini running at?
phil likes to run his cards at 90C 120% TDP *ducks* Funny @ bubbAJoe I have it at 200 watts = 80% see link https://imgur.com/jfwMRcK.png1 zotac mini 2 evga hybrid 1 asus turbo |
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Bitcoin started to be mined with asics on 2013, bitcoin value were at 40$ on march 2013, bitcoin went to 20k on december 2017, a 500x value, so if you say that asics makes a coin value to drop, you can see what happened with bitcoin and see that for bitcoin it was not true that asics were something bad, maybe for gpu miners on 2013 asics were bad news, but not for new asics miners who started a business and not for bitmain, and not for the bitcoin value.
Your logic is so fucked up. ETH always was a GPU coin yet it managed to be the second big crypto in 2-3 years. ASICs are thievery, nothing else. What ASIC manufacturers do is, stealing your right to buy a miner. Because when an ASIC manufacturer decides not to sell an ASIC, there is nothing you can do about it. If bitmain, bitfury, halong decide to not sell their HW so they can mine all the coins (bitfury is doing this pretty much btw) what would you think about that? While a GPU/CPU company has to sell their HW to their customers no matter what, ASIC companies can completely ignore this. Fuck ASICs. Back to the topic. There are 2 coins which keep GPU mining alive today. ETH and Zcash. If one of them dies, the damage will be huge. Tbh i dont think zcash has the power to carry all the available GPU's. Only Eth can do it and when it switches to PoS ot will be over for us. Maybe asics are not fair, but, mining coins is not a regulated activity, you don`t need to go to anywhere pay for a license, pass controls, audits, etc, mining hardware manufacturers don`t need to ask for approval or to be lincesed to be able to mine a coin, if there is no regulation, and there is a competition for money, what do you expect?, A business that are capable of developing a miner and take lot of profit mining and selling this miner what is going to do, do you expect that this manufacturer is going to say: no, we are not going to earn millions because is it no fair for gpu miners, wake up, things does not work in this way. If mining is not a regulated activity and anyone can access if you go to mining it you are doing it at your onw risk, but asic manufacturers are not too much different from us, we are mining for love to the project? or we are mining to earn money? because all the forums are plenty of people talking about profits, so in the end an asic manufacturer and al of us we wnt the same, profit from mining, and profit as much as possible. If eth promised that they would be asic resistant and asics comes to play, would be a problem of ETH to find how to evolve the algo to make it asic resitant, and if is not possible to mine in the future with gpus due to asics, then miners should to take the decission to retire or to move to asic, as in all other industries. If you think that way, don't get upset when devs fork the coin whenever a ASIC pops up. If manufacturers don't respect the community and decides to steal, they deserve a big fuck you in their faces. Bitcoin community was too stupid to understand what was going on and now millions of USD invested in ASICs so it is too late to get out but monero community saw it through and forking away before things get out of hand. I'm frustrated because people came to cryptos to have the control of their own money, decentralization, a great protest against our financial system. But people just want to treat cryptos like any investment and just want to take profits no matter what They are an investment but with good developers endless forking would keep the coins as gpu. Monero and zec need to state we will fucking fork any asic quickly. I say this because one is good for amd and one is good for nvidia . This would allow smaller miners to stay in the game |
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Still yet to get tracking from MyRig/Yoshi , but it looks like we are very close.
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Safe in electronics means "well within compliance" which means only a disaster would do any harm which given the probability, one in billions of cases.
Listen to Metroid. he know gpus will die this year. killing gear and looking to get rmas hurts the gpu mining industry. but safe as in burn down your home most likely your home will not burn down . your psu will die in a shorter time period and you burn more power at the higher capacity Ahh, well if this is the definition we're working with in this context, then I would say that you are "safe" OP, for sure. As philipma has said, I doubt your house will burn down; I am more concerned about what philipma has said about GPUs dying this year, what exactly do you mean by that? Do you mean that the prices will become too high, or the profitibility will become too low or something else entirely? It's never good to run gear at near full load, and I almost never push any of my gear past 75%. I am quoting Metroid he has a thread that claims gpus will die in 2018. Back to this thread. I have run seasonic evga corsair thermaltake fractal antec rosewill all of them don't like to be maxed. all of them die in under 5 years when maxed. All of them run better at 70% and have less issues. |
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All asics cause big coin investors know what the hell is going on too and they know they will buy cheap eth and other altcoins, so they sell what they have and then buy back cheaper and then start filling their bags again for the next run, as they know there are asics for eth, now they are investigating the bottom, checking the desperate or idiots who will sell their eth, zec cheap and then will pump these coins 10 times next time. This is pure manipulation but they are only doing it cause they know they can cause asics gave them a reason too. If were not for asics then eth and other altcoins would not have crashed, even bitcoin would not crashed. Probably eth would have been around $3000, bitcoin close to $27k and zec $1200. It happened the same with bitcoin, as soon as asics started mining bitcoin, bitcoin crashed 15 times and then stood at 9 times.
Noobs will say bitcoin crashed because of mt.gox because they dont want to tell the truth. Bitcoin crashed with asics because it was easy money, so it was a run to sell or lose profit cause it was very easy to mine and earn bitcoins.
This is one of the best posts I have ever read from you. Bitmain knew Mt Gox was going to sell off coins. Bitmain had more then 85000 coins in wallets in dec of 2017 So they sold coins to get fiat. And the two sellers crashed the price. But in the case of bitmain. They buy new coins using gear sales. So when I send in 1 bch for a l3 they only spent .5 bch to get my 1 bch. I feel the build cost for a l3 is about .4 bch. It is a vicious cycle. But gpu dev can play shifting al-gore-rhythms to fight them |
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so to be clear 6 April 2018 is the new fork date for xmr correct?
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