There isn't one. If the wagered to free ratio is high enough you could have a zero balance and still get full base reward.


I'm not going to give the actual formula so as not to encourage people to try and game it. Sometimes we find a lot of people doing that and have to tweak the formula.

We brought in the $50 and $100 limits so that the system doesn't penalise people with old accounts that made a lot of free-rolls back when BTC was around $200. It is very difficult for them to wager enough at $3,500 BTC to outweigh their total free winnings. So yes you are correct as long as you keep that $50 balance then your base reward will never be reduced.

You are right that you can withdraw just from the faucet. It's difficult to answer the first part mainly because it depends on the BTCUSD exchange rate and also how lucky you get rolling high numbers. The free-roll reward amount is static in USD and the minimum withdrawal is 30,000 Satoshi. If Bitcoin were to crash back to the hundreds of dollars you would get there quickly but if it goes to the moon again it will take a lot longer.

I'm sure wetsuit could a find a replacement for me if he needed to.

It is support(at)freebitco.in


The real botters are still trying but I've had success in stopping a couple of the biggest ones over the last week. One botter has been signing up thousands of new accounts every day. I started blocking his withdrawals and he thought he could get around it by making a large deposit before requesting a withdrawal. He lost 0.32 BTC trying that out and then switched off his bot. He'll be back with another idea soon.
Your bot, on the other hand, I don't want to stop. There is an individual person behind each one so it isn't multi-accounting abuse. You also seem to attract a high ratio of gamblers and you are very profitable for us.

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It's not actually deposits, it is the current balance. You can get that through referral income or gambling as well as depositing.
The full base reward refers to the $0.002 for the lowest tier of the free-rolls payout table. There is a formula that measures a ratio of total free winnings against wagered amount and balance. Accounts that only play free will eventually have that base reward reduced to 33.5% of full reward. The $50 balance is enough on its own to give full reward for people that don't want to gamble. Accounts that wager need less than $50 balance. The exact same thing applies to playing without captcha but the requirements are higher ($100).

Yes, $50 balance gaurantees full base reward. Add another $50 and all accounts with balances over $100 don't have to do a captcha.

You haven't proven anything of the sort. We have vastly more honest customers withdrawing their funds when they want every day than the few fraudsters I catch and block.


The accounts are worthless. Anybody would be a fool to buy them. They could just as easily create a new account and deposit themselves. They also would leave themselves open to the person that sold it claiming it was hacked and recovering it via a Bitcoin signed message. I'm happy I have discouraged your ambitions to make this into a business.

The person that tried to cheat our faucet by using multiple accounts to play more than one free roll per hour and/self-referred to cheat our referral system. It really is very simple and I'm surprised anybody could be in any confusion that funds deposited in order to cheat are not returned.

I'm not going to publish everything I look at to differentiate abuse. It's usually the size of the 'family' that gives it away the most but there are a lot of other factors. It is possible for accounts with high balances or with a high wagering to free winnings ratio to play from the same IP which is something a number of web posts and Youtube videos have detailed how to exploit. That is part of the reason there are people complaining that they lost what they 'invested' to cheat us.

Please, everyone, click the link in the village idiot's signature and lose big.

It was a very dumb question.

I don't return funds to people I catch trying to steal from us. Stop being so pathetic and take responsibility for your own actions.

Every time we do something different to crack down on abuse I get a mixture of responses. The amateurs that have no idea what they are doing cry and beg like the idiot above. I got a strange support email yesterday from a really smart botter that worked out a very clever way to cheat.

Abuse is using multiple accounts to play more than one free-roll per hour to cheat the faucet and/or self-referring to cheat the referral program. I'm considering adding bans for idiots that spam these threads as well.

I didn't you dumb f***.

Cross-post refers to posting the same thing in more than one thread on this forum.

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It is feasible. The author just needs to program it to work with us. You could just use the same strategy with Seuntjie's DiceBot  https://bot.seuntjie.com/ .

Lol, My bad, I read that as "can" not "cannot" in the question. I'll go back and edit my answer.

It's fine just to claim the faucet and withdraw. It's multi-accounting to play more than one free-roll per hour and self-referring that are abuse.


None of that matters. You don't need a ToS to tell you what faucet abuse is.

As ever you overlook the obvious. It wasn't just the referral income they were cheating but also playing 10x the number of free-rolls permitted. I still caught them before they were able to get their overall position in profit. Those cheats and thieves that end up losing more than they stole cry like babies. The ones that made a profit usually don't say anything and just try it again.

I would also recommend that any failed cheat should try out The Village Idiot's bot. I was sat here chatting with wetsuit last week and he asked me what was going on with the forum threads. Then he took a look and the conversation went like this:

wetsuit "That broken record guy is still going, what's he on about."
me "He's just spamming our thread to promote his stuff because his own service thread died due to lack of interest"
wetsuit "It's just a dicebot isn't it?"
"Yeah"
wetsuit "How's it doing?"
me "Losing badly when I last looked. That was ages ago, let's see what it is now."
Looks up the Village Idiot's account.
me "Oooh, his referrals have lost 11.86 BTC and he's even managed to give us 3% over EV somehow."
wetsuit "You should encourage him to keep spamming the threads."


You really are a muppet of the first order. I blocked some things that are not relevant to showing this guy is a cheat to make the relevant bits stand out more.

You guys are pretty much correct here. I can't tell you how many tickets to buy because it is a ratio of the wagered amount to free winnings so it is different for every account. You might even be able to work out the ratio if you look at the change in the % towards next bonus each time you wager or play free.

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Anyone thinking about buying an account needs their head examined. The only possible advantage over a new account are the referrals and they could all stop playing the moment you pay for the account. The original owner could also try and claim it is hacked and recover it with a signed message.

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I don't normally cross-post but this idiot cheat started off in this thread and the switched to the other one so here an update.

WTf???


Clearly listed in the referral list I posted along with all your other accounts signed up at the same time on the same IP network from the same device with the same fingerprint. All being used to abuse our faucet and referral program for which you were rightly banned. We don't return deposits to people that cheat us.

These referrals you lying cheat.



All referred to another of your accounts.

Your first post on this forum was to ask if you could sell freebitco.in accounts. You haven't even said which accounts of yours I've banned for multi-accounting. My assessment is you're pissed off that I stopped you cheating us.

You lose it because I caught you cheating.

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I mean you used multiple accounts to play more than one free roll an hour and self-referred a number of accounts to generate referral income for yourself. The referral program is an incentive to introduce new users not a way for cheats to make extra coin.