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2081  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Good quality post on: March 17, 2017, 03:42:29 AM
It is written in most of the post that the post should be in good quality and then i am able to do signature campaigns easily. So my question is in which topic we should post mostly? And what type of post will be considered as a good quality post? Which topic will help me most in this?

There are no technical problems, try to post an appropriate topic for free, fair and constructive wherever you want to write, don't write a spam sentence, or origin write in short sentences.

If you follow the campaign, obey any threads that are not counted as earnings. All threads about discussion is an important point in following signature (bitcoin/altcoin discussion, gambling discussion, trade discussions, etc).

Don't post often under 200 characters because it would be considered a one-liner, unless it's absolutely appropriate topic per page. Don't repeat same answer on the same page.
2082  Economy / Speculation / Re: It going to hurt..! drop back under 1000$ on: March 17, 2017, 02:34:44 AM
as i wrote just now to another thread the opinions are personals but allow me to point one thing, this way you write is something i can't understand.... i can't find any logic when i read some people weeks before to write FOR SURE that the price will go 2000+ no matter the ETF .. i now read from the same people that price is stable at 1200 etc...
seems that many many people go together with the wind... where is the wind today? east? east we write then....
i really like the people who have stable opinion even though is wrong, and based on some kind of facts.
and to say something about facts, there is a big volume on alts( bubbles in my opinion ) as we speak that this has big influence on the BTC price.
Some people now that are scared or want to win, trade to alts that are already low for some ( for me many are overpriced ) to escape the Bitcoin fears, BU, and many other things, EU commented that crypto currencies can't be anonymous... there are a lot happening around, open your eyes. and i have to propose one thing to every one that will come to this post, DO your research, don't listen me or anyone else ! we do not guarantee anything Smiley to close this my opinion is that Bitcoin for the next period will go down if nothing BIG happens, yes if you ask yourself maybe we will go under 1000$

You should know that bitcoin estimated price isn't something that's stable, if you read someone confident about price predictions within a certain period, it will never be effective because in one year there's always 2-3 big rumor that affected bitcoin price. This is essence of actual market.

If you frequently read people who always follow wind direction or what other people are saying, they are only a day trader with limited experience, there's nothing wrong with it.

Many people predict bitcoin price on March 11, as it was the day that has potential to shake up price up or down, you have to follow someone who's more competent if you want an accurate prediction, and let people in this forum are free to express dynamics opinion.
2083  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: March 17, 2017, 02:10:37 AM
better to invest in bitcoin, gold maybe more secure, but bitcoin has more potential to grow
saving money in the bank, will only mean losing them in the long-term with the current high inflation
A good idea thanks i was also planning on saving money but i was also scared what will happen at this rate because of high inflation,I also want to find a place where my little money would be safe than sorry.
Well i agree. For you little amount, i think it's best to invest it in btc. You're saving at the same time your savings grow at a much faster rate than in banks so you can consider your savings as your investment at the same time. This is what's great with btc. It not just having a saving or investment but it allows you to have both
You have a better chance to be more profitable if you will do both investment and savings, however you need to find a good investment for your money. Bitcoin is good and that is one of the reason why we are in this community, we do not need to find anything else, let's convert some of our money to invest in bitcoin and hold it longer, there is nothing to chance your strategy it works in the past and will continue to be effective in the future.
Yes, do both things like investment and saving will affect your future for sure but we never know which investment is really profitable, there is no guarantee in investing although you said bitcoin will b good for the future but wr can't really predict it since until today the current price is still volatile. But if you holding it much now, I think it will be good then rather than you keep buying it

Fiat fluctuations are not as bad as imagined because it always running the fundamental development, unless you are in a third world country. Saving in bank is still the best and safest thing to do. Bitcoin models rely solely online, so it isn't always fully controlled by government. Investment money has many models offline and also with a letter from the notary who passed by government.

If you understand assets or surplus of money, then you should invest for your future financial assets.
2084  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stop buying! on: March 17, 2017, 01:23:52 AM
Bitcoin is a roller coaster ride and no one can predict what will exactly happen even in next hour either it will go higher or lower the only thing we can do is wait and watch and according to the situation take the decision either to buy or sell as price has gone down today and there is a full possibility that it will go even lower in next few days.
I am not seeing any hard falling for bitcoin prices. Due to the rumours about hard fork, prices fluctuated a little today, but surely it is not the symptoms of starting point of downfall.

We have seen with an prices withstanding etf application denial hence bitcoin has all the requirement of investors to keep its prices stable and up surging in coming days. I am suggesting to keep buying.

Cryptocurrency market unlike forex market is waiting for news and rumors every day. Which led to significant price movements Bitcoin move only from headlines such as Chinese intervention against exchangers and a decision on ETF. Should we continue to buy continuously, I think bitcoin will be greatly affected if things happen as large as global economic collapse and war from central state.

ETF News yesterday only benefit if proposal approved. there are still some more proposals are still on the way.
2085  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin has defeated gold on: March 17, 2017, 12:45:03 AM
Both bitcoin and gold has its specific advantages because og the price value they had but the only comparison between the is gold has a physical appearance while bitcoin has a digital form and can be viewed only in the wen network. For now I have no concrete information that btc defeated gold because gold has good standing of price market value that has no erratic fluctuations although bitcoin has higher price nowadays but the price fluctuations really has fluctuated behaviour.

It depends on how you understand it, if you are happy with daily fluctuation, bitcoin is the best to use, gold rose gradually because of its rarity, in future if bitcoin mining has run out will also apply equally. Bitcoin is better than gold due to be the benchmark of all altcoin. So price movement very quickly although bitcoin increasingly rare.
2086  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: March 15, 2017, 05:02:39 AM
Not easy. It takes a lot of discipline, luck and knowledge of the odds.
Why do we need such descipline in a gambling acrivity? All we need is luck and knowledge, discipline is out of it. maybe what you are saying is control, like when to stop and to continue gambling.
Yeah I think that is what he meant.
The discipline of when to know you already profited and have to stop. Lack of that discipline will just cost you your profit and even more, your capital.
Gambling is a profitable activity but only for those who have knowledge into making the right decisions at the right time.
I definitely agree in what your opinion is, and because I have already experienced that kind of thing. I felt that I can still win even if it's in the long run and I hoped that I could make more money from it, but that's not always the case. It's scary, I know but there's a possibility but then, I knew that I can't make that always happen. You could win some, or lose some. That's the balance of life.

Gambling profits management will always have a problem if we use a little nominal deposits, because in your mind there's only continuous pursuit of profit with full emotional, not same as if we were in time deposits of large nominal, our mind tends to be more relaxed to take some profits on daily basis. Many professional gamblers speculate using large capital. There is no significant pressure, just think about sharpness analysis.
2087  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Where would you invest if you had 40$/day ? on: March 14, 2017, 07:57:12 AM
Imagine you had a daily income of 40$ each day in bitcoin, what would do with them and where would you invest them ?
Well i will definitely invest it in a legit investment site. I will invest it to trade altcoin, i dont want to put my 40$ income in a risk situation like investing on ponzi/hyip or cloud mining.

very precisely, because with investment in a proven site will be much more favorable compared to sites that have not been proven to be so. Now also many reputable sites and legit, so we don't have to worry about the funds that we have. So, ponzi and Hyip game or system is very prone and dangerous for all. If there is a relative or a friend of yours who is still playing in that system will be better you explain it

I love to take risks, I invest a few dollars for some HYIP programs and ponzi (not recommended for you), of course with a very strong consideration when I started. Evident from several sites there are proven durable and pay $20 daily even though there are many scam sites, $40 daily if you want to play directly in poloniex every day.
2088  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: March 14, 2017, 05:21:33 AM
I first started in altcoin trade market, from beginning i was a speculators in forex trading market. At first there's a striking difference from bitcoin trading, because the system just like buying and selling, without having to get a margin call and monitor all actual issues from different companies and countries around the world.

Bitcoin is easier to use and i quickly adapt to cryptocurrency market. If you want more revenue, don't drive pair Btc market only with Fiat.
2089  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How is trading *not* gambling? on: March 14, 2017, 04:49:54 AM
Trading and gambling got a bit similarity, some part of trading is gambling because we only speculated and guessing based on the chart and news we got and some people based on knowledge and intuition,  when you bet something that is not certain, it is consider as gambling
It is almost the same, though the only difference is, on Gambling you bet to win an easy price, though it is not that sure, it has risks, well gambling is all about risks. Trading is giving something to make profit, though, trading is all about profit but it still has risks, that is why it is considered gambling. Trading and Gambling has risks which is really making them so similar.

Trade has a part to gambling such as swapping technique, forwarding and options, if we just do technical analysis with a clear spot, then it's a pure trade.

Gambling in trading is to be uncertain and chancy, not the case with trading who have financial management, fundamental analysis, and even a win win solution system with money and variety of physical economy lawful in all states.

Movement volatile market allows us to benefit 100%. So if our minds are healthy, we will do the trade with good technique.
2090  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: March 14, 2017, 04:07:05 AM
Gold= Nature Made
Bitcoin= Computer Generated crypto currency
For me when we're talking about long long term. I'll choose gold cause it's been around in this world long before us. If a catastrophy will happen that will cause the whole internet to be down. Bitcoin will be no more.

Smart thinking. Indeed it is basically something that is not made in a way that is natural, then someday will decline (missing). The difference in gold and also the bitcoin does exist at creation and also on the price. But for now it would be much better or benefit when we use gold for the long term and also the bitcoin for short, for if we can't utilize things will be much worse

We have entered the digital era, issues such as internet destruction will always evolve to be refined and will not happen. I believe completely against bitcoin for long term. It all depends on our mindset to technological progress. I myself also save some gold and land property, but it was only for micro investment.

As long as our mind is still running, we must continue to manage bitcoin as much as possible. Bitcoin be great is because the full confidence of its users.
2091  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Dollar Scarcity on: March 14, 2017, 03:53:33 AM
I found myself thinking that bitcoin may have a serious relationship with dollar as this relation can be showed in inflation/deflation phenomena but what encounters logic of the rules of inflation/deflation is that bitcoin has increase and decrease at the same time and exponentially . Thus How can we suppose that bitcoin may break the rules of inflation/deflation and some economic rules ?And can bitcoin remains faithful to US dollar?
Nowadays, we cannot deny that dollar so far is the main currency at the present time now.  That's why bitcoin has a serious relationship with dollars, so for now we can't do something about it but to follow what its needs to be follow. Maybe after 1 century bitcoin can be the new world currency as dollar status right now. Grin

Bitcoin need a clear regulatory rules in future if it's to become the benchmark for a world currency. US will not allow that to happen, eventually Bitcoin will attempt to be converted into the center of America continent currency through government policy against most major foreign exchange market, it's their government that will make it that way in future.

In principle of a civilized economy, the currency should be centralized or at least have tremendous market power, the fluctuations and liquidity is a regular trend. When bitcoin community can no longer unstoppable, each world will automatically recognize it.
2092  Economy / Economics / Re: Is the SEC straight fucking with us now? on: March 14, 2017, 03:24:45 AM
is bad bitcoin price crash and down price after SEC rejected
what is the future about bitcoin, what is SEC or USA can closed all exchanger

I think SEC is not trying to fucking with us now, Maybe because during the time that they've been thinking about how are they gonna have benefit into bitcoin. But I remembered what I read in the cointelegraph saying that " Thanks SEC for reminding us that Bitcoin isn't controlled by wall street. Now lets get back to business." This make sense, right? the hell we care Wink

Certainty of SEC decision is an incentive from ETFbtc to go to Wall Street, if the decision is approved, it will bring volume greater from investor, but unfortunately it didn't happen. I welcome the rejection decision with positive feedback, bitcoin back to state as usual, where there is no regulation of the market means not kill bitcoin technological innovation.
2093  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: March 11, 2017, 11:22:46 PM
I don't see any problem in term if gambling. The problem starts if you become addicted and dependable on this. But as long as you can control yourself and can still do your responsibility to your family that is fine. ANyways that is your money and its up to you how do you want to spend it. BUt most of my friends they told me that there is no benefit doing gambling every person will be always be looser on gambling but for bitcoin its fine if u gained money on it since its a online and if you loose you still had lots of time to cope with.

There is no benefit in doing this , Im honest eventhough I gamble almost everyday. I do it to spend some time and for fun purposes, once we start gamble it will be hard to let it go therefore it will be much better for some people to not start at all. Even if it is using your own money, losing money is always a bad choice that someone could made

Yes if you are not a regular gambler and thinking to get into it then its better not to go for it and instead find some other investment which can be less risky in compare to gambling and if you cannot control yourselves then its better to gamble with a small amount that you can afford to loose.

Actually there is nothing wrong with gambling, even better than investing in redundant programs and we don't do anything other than getting scam news on the payment date.

We as adults have a high adrenaline to do the challenge. Gambling is an appropriate means to know our capabilities. Making it as a hobby or choose to become a professional gambler it depends on when we tried for several times, logic is more important than intuition.

Addiction to win or lose it's a personal decision of each individual, at least try once in your life, because gambling is legal in many countries. Look for your own potential in gambling, if you often lose then you should stop immediately.
2094  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Do you have an idea to invest your bitcoin in offline business? on: March 11, 2017, 09:43:03 PM
I have an idea that keep in my mind since last year. I dream to make a property company that provide the needs for a place to stay for peoples in my country. We buy land, build many houses or apartment and sell it with credit payment system. It will be a good future of property company to use bitcoin to raise fund from the investors.
There is 257+ millions people live in my country, so that will be a good factor.

Good idea but keep in mind, property development must have formal written agreement by notary, investors with at least 10 BTC didn't want to lose like that happens in cloud mining investment. This becomes a serious problem for a country that has not ratified bitcoin, will result in no agency willing to cooperate, unless you raise funds investors are dealing with a private signature agreement.
2095  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you save bitcoin for fun or for future purpose? on: March 08, 2017, 12:51:39 AM
I save bitcoin for welfare and long-term investments. Bitcoin has a good financial prospect. I believe asset management is paramount in life or you will continue to work for rest of your life. 40% for daily savings, 10% for investments, 30% for trading, and 20% for daily needs. It was difficult, but as adults we have to think about family future, buying something unnecessary will always happen, and this is included in 5-10% for daily needs.
2096  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin money? on: March 06, 2017, 10:58:35 PM
As i know when bitcoin launched in 2009 bitcoin is no value some told that bitcoin is scam and i think only some believe in bitcoin.  So they are lucky now bitcoin is money if you got bitcoin in the year 2009 you are very rich now and you're a millionaire.

a lot of people who have hundreds or even millions of Bitcoin with no value at all In 2009, but they believe something that's unique and can continue to be produced will have value in future. And proved to be correct, bitcoin community managed to have its own trade market and become central exchange of all existing altcoin.

This is why bitcoin branded as a virtual currency is regarded as highly influential. Bitcoin reward will be exhausted in 2041 also gives effect people to have more demand, and will result in higher prices on a continuous basis.
2097  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin provide income on line? on: March 06, 2017, 04:20:46 PM
many of my friends did not work but a lot of money away was great when compared, to me that is still working in the factory, I was confused from where producer obtained from bitcoin?

Many successful people in bitcoin decided to become full-time crypto trader or focus on HYIP network development. It's difficult choice and had to take the final decision because it requires process and time. If you decide to become full-time online worker, you don't necessarily need long adaptation, because it already has some basic about bitcoin. You just need enough capital and a strong heart. financial freedom requires a worthy sacrifice.
HYIP is one thing that I recommend everyone to stay away from because the loop is made in such a way that at the end you will always loose only.

HYIP is like gambling you win some and you get greedy and loose all, worst than gambling in fact because in gambling at least you can get lucky and win a lot but in HYIP owner won't pay from his pocket for sure. Please dont suggest such things mate especially to those who are starting now.

It looks like you are someone who's realistic and make money only by means of active work, i also believe you only know investment in gold and stocks. I really not recommend to get involved into any type of HYIP program, I just want you to understand about passive asset management and multiple sources of passive income.

If you equate all bitcoin investments like MMM or many cloud mining scam, you will never understand what it means to financial freedom, if you still don't understand, then please work as usual in gambling, trading etc.
2098  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you Still believe in Fiat? on: March 06, 2017, 03:51:19 PM
Definitely yes still believe in fiat this is our need in everyday we live in we need fiat to buy our needs.  And most important is fiat is needs everyone and fiat is so mean to everyone in this world for their expenses everyday. 

There's even no need for unbelieving fiat. Because we know that we need to keep on believing and it is a need for using for our daily lives. And though I'm trying to adopt and live myself with bitcoin on my daily live. Still there is a need for me to keep on believing and use fiat because there's no way to use it on my country for now.
Think of it this way, what will a country use if Fiat suddenly vanish? Of course it is hard to say but definitely there would be chaos as there will be no right trading system in which the value of an good is not equal to the value of what you want or try to exchange with it. With Fiat it helps satisfy the current fair market value of the good in which all will agree to it.

The most reasonable question is what impact if dollar suddenly disappeared because of war or political conditions can't be controlled.

The whole country will try to be center of world money if that happens. But if indeed the entire fiat suddenly gone, there will be absolute chaos and bitcoin will become completely worthless. I believe bitcoin can replace fiat if bitcoin have physical currencies, because not everyone has ability to access financial system through Internet.
2099  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me your predictions about Bitcoin on: March 06, 2017, 03:21:07 PM
I want to ask you, what will happen in five days longer if ETF is not approved by SEC ?

I consider current bitcoin price increase is a positive belief of public to wait for the results on March 11 later. I think if the result is not approved, bitcoin will be back down continuously as in january and will also greatly affect popularity of American elected president.
2100  Other / Off-topic / Re: Young people should go all in on bitcoin on: March 06, 2017, 02:55:31 PM
Young people should get involved with Bitcoin, that is true, and many Bitcoin users already are young people. But they shouldn't use Bitcoins just for gambling what many of them do. Bitcoin is,also the way how they can learn to manage their money, to learn how to invest and be responsible.

Excellent if indeed they are involved for more responsible and learn to manage your finances well in bitcoin, but most young people who still have unstable emotions, they will only be spent on things that don't need and have fun.

Engage in bitcoin takes time and a lot of concentration, but this was better than those who only play games and do something very unproductive. Minimum age appropriate to seek bitcoin is 17 years old, because they will know many bitcoin business models such as gambling, trading, and investments that need an understanding of risk.
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