That might be a restriction of the crypto payment processor (crypto.com Pay and BitPay) and not Ledger.
The Crypto.com app, for instance, can't be used in a long list of countries and territories. BitPay also has several prohibited jurisdictions. See if your country is in the list of the sources I linked to.

Thanks for your feedback. Everything that I wrote in the table was correct at the time of writing. Maybe there were changes in the meantime or the information you see in your location is different from what I see on my end. I will go through the suggestions you made, double-check myself, and correct if needed.

It's there. Go to the shop, add one of their hardware wallets to your cart, and start the purchase process. You can enter fake data just to proceed through the customer info and shipping forms. Once you get to the payments page you will see this:



It seems that they have actually added crypto.com pay in addition to BitPay, which was there before.

Ledger doesn't accept Bitcoin directly, but you can pay with bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies using the crypto payment processor BitPay. Anyone interested in doing that should know that BitPay requires KYC to use their services, so there are better alternatives. Check out Do Hardware wallet Manufacturers Ship to PO Boxes or Not for more info.

It's been a few days since you created this thread but it seems there isn't much interest. I looked to see if D'cent has an official ANN thread on this forum to suggest that you post your offer there. Maybe someone interested in buying it could see your post in their ANN thread. But it looks like they don't have an announcement thread on Bitcointalk.

If you are still giving it away, you can always try to find someone on their social media channels.

Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/DcentWalletGlobal

Twitter
https://twitter.com/DCENTwallets

YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKnYqiM3g3iaaAKcRZf-kbA

It's worth mentioning that updating the individual crypto apps is completely different from updating Ledger Live to the latest version. To update Ledger Live, you only need to click on the update button you see at the top of the app once you run it.

To update the apps, you have to open the Ledger Manager (I think they now call it My Ledger) and physically confirm that action with button presses on the hardware wallet. After that, you need to manually click on the app/apps you want to update on the list you see on your screen. So it takes several steps to make that mistake.

Now after the situation has been solved, can you remember exactly what you did to cause the crash?
Ledger Live update?
Update of the Stratis app which isn't supported?
Something else? 

You have to realize that the majority of people entering the crypto space care very little about what you just said. You know that character from the Simpsons that points the finger and yells, ha-ha? You are the one they are pointing the finger at. Not your personally, but privacy-advocates. A simple way to make money and ultimately see more of those $ signs will always beat taking the longer route that requires more time and effort. 

I don't think the decryption key is that important in a recovery scenario because it's the same one for everyone. What's important are the shards and the KYC tied to them. If they go ahead with this craziness, the KYC process most be set up in a way that there can't be any doubt if it's the lawful person that is trying to recover their crypto or someone else. With the way AI and audio & video technology is developing, that's becoming a difficult task. I am not going to get into how dangerous it is for such data to be stored online anywhere because that's already been covered extensively.

They still are. I had to create a Google account a few months ago for my job, and an email + password is all you need. 2FA is an optional feature.
I also changed the password for one of my personal Google accounts around the same timeframe, and I wasn't asked to input any 2FA codes as an added security measure. The usual entry of the old and new passwords was all that was needed. 

Digital or online/cloud backups as replacement for physical offline copies of seeds isn't and shouldn't become any sort of standard in the future. If it was Ledger that had something like that, everyone would lose their mind. I understand it's optional and you don't have to use it, but it's a dangerous option to have.

Najbolja opcija je dogovoriti s nekim veliki dobitak u njegovom kasinu i rješen problem. Došao si sa €100, zavrtio nešto i posrečilo ti se.
Mislim da sam ovdje negdje čitao da je jedan Crnogorac to uradio ali je htio da bude pametan i zajebe vlasnika kasina i neisplati mu dogovoreni novac. Tip je razmišljao pa ne može me ovaj ocinkati ni policiji ni poreznoj. Kao, ne može ništa da uradi a da i sebe ne uvali u probleme. Zaboravio je da ima koljena na nogama... 

I am not familiar with Envoy or Magic Backups, but I just looked at your YouTube video where you explain the backup process. It involves storing sensitive information in digital form and on Passport servers. Encrypted and hashed but this is still a potential security threat. And it's a less secure way of storing private data than offline physical backups on paper, metal, etc.   

When you say they know the key, I assume you mean the same key is also used in their hardware device, and not that they actually know and can see the key. How could I (who own a Ledger Nano S) see that decryption key in my device?

Ne znam, previše mi to optimistično zvuči. Otkud ti €18.000 da kupiš nekretninu a novac ne potiče sa tvog tekućeg računa gdje ti dolazi plata? Šta to ti još imaš sa strane? Kako to da imaš €9.000 u kešu? Ako novac dolazi sa Wise-a, koje je porijeklo tog novca? Da mi to malo provjerimo pa se pošalje zvanični upit Wise-u da poreznim službenicima dostave transakcije na tvom Wise računu u zadnjih 5 godina. A vidi, vidi, pa vi ste ovdje primili preko €15.000, jel plačen porez na to? Naravno sad filozofiram i navodim izmišljeni scenarij ali nije nemoguć.

With seed phrases, you always have the freedom to recover your coins elsewhere for any reason. With a "Foundation Passport Backup System X", you are stuck with that one product because no one else supports your recovery scheme. Unless, of course, you can get some other wallets to implement it as well. And if there is a bug or it malfunctions, you will be required to wait until the devs find a way to fix it. Not to mention the devastation if they completely abandon it or it breaks down for whatever reason.

Upravo to, a na to dođe i porez na kupovinu nekretnine koji nije strašno veliki ali bi se opet moglo postaviti pitanje porijekla novca kojim se sve to plaća. A ako se nadležnima čini da vrijednost u papirima ne pokazuje pravu vrijednost nekretnine, ništa ih ne sprječava da izađu na teren i procjene da moraš da platiš više. Ne znam kako na to gledaju kad su stanovi u rasulu ili oštečeni od zemljotresa kako je SirJohnVonSlotty spomenuo.

You are forgetting the bigger picture here. The secure elements in popular hardware wallets aren't 'secure'. This should be the end of all hardware wallets with such secure elements. But it's not going to be. I don't think it's going to be the end of Ledger either. Hardware wallets are not what they were marketed to us to be. That's the takeaway from the Ledger fiasco. Ledger were just the first to shoot themselves in the knee. The bigger problem is that hardware wallets with secure elements don't protect users against remote access as long as there is a possibility of sharing the data stored on them over the internet.   

Well, there was no way of accessing sensitive data on the secure element chips either. They have been telling us for years that it's impossible. Turns out, it's quite possible if they integrate the right code. If one day they go real evil, that code would not need your physical button presses at all. No one can verify how the system works, and the trust is gone following their public suicide.

Do you think the target audience who can't store their seed safely and need Ledger Recover to do it for them (or think it's a good idea) use passphrases? I don't.

It's interesting that googling that error message in connection with the term 'Trezor' doesn't return anything useful. It's like no one else has seen and reported it before.

I can't imagine it's an outdated firmware. Do you have a different computer you could connect your Trezor to just to see if the same error appears?
The standard recommendations for those things would be trying different USB ports and connecting the device directly to the port and not via a USB hub.   

I might be a bit old-fashioned but I have always been of the opinion that if it isn't broken, don't fix it. I think that users who aren't capable of writing down and storing 12 English words in paper format are too spoiled and crypto might not be suitable for them. If they can't even do that, I see them struggle with other essential elements of the game.

Still, it's good that you trying to simplify an already simple process. How is that going btw? What would you like to replace seeds with but still not impact the security of the new storage method?