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2121  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game result verification on: March 10, 2017, 07:29:45 AM
Read this one, hope it will help you to understand how it works https://thebitcoinstrip.com/blog/what-does-provably-fair-mean.html
There is also good discussion on concept of probably fair here in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1431468.0

Thanks for the link for the thread here. It is almost flooded by the old thread, I already see that thread from past but i didn't find it again when i search it.


Is anybody here know how the client seed works as a basis of a bet is legit and not modified. I don't get how this seed work and how to check if my roll is not modified. I have a little on how it works but i don't know further details on it. I hope anybody out there can help. Thank you
You can use dicesites.com to verify your rolls, dicesites has it's own verifiers. all the info is available at https://dicesites.com/provably-fair


How can we know that this site are telling the truth about the verification of the roll result. what I mean is who is behind this site, are they legit. but anyway, i will study it on my own, i will open this thread so that anyone who was interested will saw this infos.
2122  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: March 10, 2017, 07:10:11 AM
Yes it is makes sense because it will earn your money maybe it is small but it is worth it. Investments makes you feel happy if you win in the investment what I mean is does not scam by literary money. At the end of the day. It will become big if you win triple double in the investment site during hype days which is does scam and continue paying.
Investment that will make you happy are those kind of investment that will satisfy you, small amount of invest will only generate small income and I believe it will not satisfy us. I had try that when I was newbie in investing, I put a little amount in a gambling site thinking it will give me a good profit, but I got bored because the profit is not what I expected and eventually use it in gambling and lose it.

Investing on gambling casino are useless if you just put small amount, because the percentage of the profit for an investment is just a small percentage. Investing on gambling is just for huge amount, i think it is better to stock btc on wallet if you have small amount and just hold it then sell it when price of bitcoin price surge. This my strategy when i'm newbie and have only small amount from claiming on faucet, I made a profit out there from penny.  Grin
2123  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to start a bitcoin casino on: March 10, 2017, 06:23:43 AM
About your question if the community will like the idea of instantly converting bitcoins to daily rate of EUR. I think they will not like it. Since most people play in bitcoins, they want to see what they deposit. Also, some do want to use bitcoins but are hoping the prices will rise. If you already convert it to fiat currency then they will not be able convert it at higher prices. On the upside though, they will be saved if prices go down.
Yeah. and it is a little bit unfair. this is just like forcing a gambler to convert his bitcoin to fiat before he will start your gambling site. Many will dislike this idea because we are all here for bitcoin (bitcoin enthusiast) and it is not a good idea here to introduce fiat in exchange for bitcoin. Perhaps the gambler are living european country then he will maybe like that auto convert because that was their normal currency used in buying commodities.
2124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 ChronoBank ICO is over! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 on: March 09, 2017, 01:58:03 PM
Great to see TIME was added to Brex. Solid exchange, never had any problems there. Polo is hard to get there, but not imposible. Smiley

Yes, this is the best news for today. This is a very good place for Time token.

Yeah. Good place also for a dumping exchange for the upcoming bounty distribution this week. I think this is the best move by the chronobank so that they minimize that dump effect of bounty hunters because trex has sufficient volume to handle it. Time on liqui will just easily sink if there is no trex out there. Good job!
2125  Local / Altcoin Announcements (Pilipinas) / Re: ☘️☘️[ANN|ICO]EDGELESS CASINO - 0% Edge & Full Transparency☘️☘️(50000ETH raised) on: March 09, 2017, 01:48:40 PM
Faqs:

Question:
how is "edgeless" casino supposed to make profits if it has no edge?

Answer:
for that we have really detailed answer. it's outlined here: https://docs.google.com/a/edgeless.io/document/d/1WuSz7MqBBomudDfnj-awAiMAe16jK37z_PqRGG22n2o/edit?usp=sharing_eil&ts=589b2440

Dagdag kaalaman para sa mga nagiinquire about investing sa edgless project. Wag tau puro bounty, take time also to studt on investing. Mas malaki ang kita dto kesa sa bounty na kakarampot lng. Kelangan lng ng puhunin at masusing pag aaral.  Wink
2126  Local / Altcoin Announcements (Pilipinas) / Re: ☘️☘️[ANN|ICO]EDGELESS CASINO - 0% Edge & Full Transparency☘️☘️(50000ETH raised) on: March 09, 2017, 01:44:35 PM
Nkapag invest nko ng 100ETH OP para mababa pa price. Sumali na dn ako sa twitter at social media campaign para mas madagdagan pa token ko. Nd ko ipangtra2ding ung token ko. Focus ko lng sa profit na mkukuha ng house edge para ipon na dn at makaiwas sa sugal. Napansin ko kc na bumaba bitcoin kaya nagtrade nko sa ETH. Sana dumami pa investor. Konti plang nadadag sa fund raised pagkatpos mareach ung 1st milestone e

Ako dn napainvest eh last week nung mataas pa btc. Dump pa kc eth nun kaya nkabili ako ng mejo madme. Bket k nga pla nagconvert sa eth ngaung bumaba btc? Paeang wrong move ata un kc tumataas nnmn ang price ni btc. Tiyak na babagsak nnmn presyo ng mga altcoin

2127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: March 09, 2017, 01:19:47 PM
Celtics beating Golden state Warriors at Warriors home again. Good defense from the Celtics and Warriors bench has been abysmal today. Combining to just 15 points and the game is almost done. Warriors down by 13 with just over a min to go. To me it seems to be over. If Warriors dont make any changes and add strength to it, it looks like they wont win the championship this season.
Warriors lost, that's alright, they need Durant to win games especially against an elite team in the NBA. I'm not surprised with the win and honestly I almost cashout now with my parlay if not because of the lost of Detroit Pistons. By the way, I have ML for (UTAH, DET, and BOSTON).

That was a great game indeed, Thomas is still the man and I like the way they play defense which resulted to a low scoring game.
Good defense wins matches and Boston showed that today. They hardly let Curry touch the ball in the 4th qtr and when he did, always had to make a contested shot. Not enough players in GSW team to draw defenders other than Curry and Thompson and they where well guarded at all times. Celtics close in on the Cavs and Spurs get closer to Warriors for the top spot.

It was Boston Celtics defense that really won them the game. They just made it tough on Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. Bradley and Smart made sure  that they had contested every shot and make to them take though shots every time. Although they still need to prove their surge at that end of the court is real. They will need to stay healthy in the playoffs. If you look at the fourth-quarter box score you will notice how their defenses affected the splash brothers. Curry has 0 points in 5 minutes 0-for 1 shooting, while Thompson in 8 minutes has 1 point and 0-for-3 shooting.





Lol. Don't be overwhelm about Golden state warriors lose on boston. I think they are not just playing 100% on their game since they got the spot on play offs.  It is hassle to play full potential on a game you already won. They are just reseving their full strength for play offs just like san antonio spurs did. The only difference is they can't pull out steph and klay to rest because their team is totally useless without them. The real show will begin on start of play offs.
2128  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: March 09, 2017, 01:12:56 PM
you cannot defend on gambling for a long term for getting a profit. because theres a lot more chance for  you to loss in gambling than to win. ive been playing gambling for a lot and i could say that gambling is not recommended to get some source of income of yours. try some investment and you can get a profitable way in a long term. and if you find it profitable just put another investment to double up your capital.
I think there is always a possibility that gambling can be profitable in long term. Game gambling is a game of luck and chances and it is not a game of only defeat that's why some gamblers have profit. It is not totally no chance against on what you said. But i agree to just focus on investment rather than gamble it on more riskier way.
2129  Economy / Gambling discussion / Dice game result verification on: March 09, 2017, 01:09:12 PM
Is anybody here know how the client seed works as a basis of a bet is legit and not modified. I don't get how this seed work and how to check if my roll is not modified. I have a little on how it works but i don't know further details on it. I hope anybody out there can help. Thank you
2130  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in casinos on: March 09, 2017, 05:10:52 AM
Hi. I'm not sure if this is the right place to start a topic but I really want some answers and it's connected to gambling in a way. I'm thinking about picking a casino and investing in it, so that I can have some small income every month (if everything goes okay). What I wanted to ask is if that is possible to see the information about casinos' income per day or month for now or is it private information nobod really gives that easily? And do you think investing in casino is a good idea, by the way? Thank you.
Your asking a very personal information about their income, and if ever there is chance that they will give you a profit fix monthly, for sure there is a condition between you and the casino owner. It could be you need to invest to their casino as a partnership to them. And investing in casino if this a good way, this will depend on you of how the gambler give it an interpretation.

wut!!! how is tha a personal question!
when you invest or want to invest in a business, no matter what it is, you are allowed to ask all these questions about how much they earn, what they have and how they are earning it. they are asking for your hard earned money so your are entitled to ask as many questions as you want to make sure that business is going to make you money and it is safe enough to trust with your money in first place.

Yeah. asking the daily income of a casino before investing is not personal, it is a usual question from the investor, Because if i'm an investor, why will i invest on that casino if i don't have any idea what will be the probable profit that i will get on investing to that casino, But there is no guarantee that the casino will tell the real possible profit of the casino because it is unpredictable and many casino will tell a hyperbolic profit so that they can have many investor
2131  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are dice sites reliable? on: March 09, 2017, 05:06:50 AM
Dice is just based on your luck and not programmed to win the house. If you see or experience 10-20 or more red streak that is normal. Also if you are always lossing, thats normal. Imo in any form of gambling players has a high percentage of lossing than winning. So if you lose in a reliable site dont think that they are cheating.

Yeah. i absolute agree. Dice game result is fair considering that you use a trusted dice site like FJ, PD, Bitsler and many more. The result is not modified for example you set the win chance rate to 50% then roll 50 times and sum up the result of LOSS and WIN, you will notice that they are nearly even or they have some small discrepancy on the result. But sometimes the red streak is always appearing right after you increase your bet. hahahaa
2132  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which is your favorite gambling game? on: March 09, 2017, 05:02:12 AM
I like to play dice game on Bitdice and slots for my past time on the same site and i could say it was really a good experience to play on that site.Interface is good and security is good thats why im confident to play and the amount that i used to play on dice and slots are only small amount that would satisfy my leisure.

I tried bitdice casino but i'm not that impress, according to your testimonial , you are just giving that good feedback because you are wearing their signature and avatar. hahahah.
There are so many good casino site like fortunejack, PD, and Bitsler. I love playing slot games on fortunejack because they offer many variation of slot game and it is easy to withdraw and deposit to their site. Directbet slot also was good but they just offer limited slot game.
2133  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: March 09, 2017, 04:56:58 AM
Quite happy here as a long time fan of Dallas Mavericks that Dirk Nowitzki makes again another record for his career. It's a great achievement that he can show to his successors. Hope that he played for the next couple of season before retiring as I can't see Dallas Mavericks without Nowitzki on the floor.

Next year to achieve this goal will Lebron James who currently is at 28,316 points.

Chances are really high for about 95% that Lebron James will joined the 30,000 points party next season. They still have lots of remaining games before the playoffs and surely he can minimized the points required next year to achived that 30,000. For an average of 20+ points that needed next season, he can lowered it to 15+ points average if he will able to play at all games. But even if not, LBJ is not the type of player that have a low average points so definitely missed games can be covered.


if Lebron James will not suffer injury, he has a 99% chance to reach the 30,000 points next season.
He now has 28,316 points.
between regular seasons and playoffs this season will play approximately another 35-40 games and then at the end of the season he will reach about 29,000 points.
Next year will have about 100 games to reach 30,000 points.

I think he will come in first place currently occupied by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar with 38,387 perhaps in 2022!
That's possible because obviously he is better than Dirk, it's unlikely that Lebron will be enjoyed because he is very strong and he matured now as a player. He knows when he needs to score and since it's still in regular season and they are secured already to get into the playoffs, he would rather be a facilitator and work the stats on his assist than score most of the time.

How come that Lebron James was compared to Dirk here, They are different in every aspect of game style and statistics. Lebron will reach 30k points but i'm not sure that he will beat Kareem Abdul-Jabbar record of 38,387points because they have different era and at era of kareem, He is a totally over power compared to Lebron era now, Considering that lebron james scores now is not high compared to its late season record on his last team
2134  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: March 08, 2017, 03:48:13 AM
For the Eastern Conference, important victories for Miami (against Cleveland), Detroit (direct clash against the Chicago Bulls), Charlotte (direct clash against Indiana) and Milwaukee for useful places in the playoffs.

There are 6 teams fighting for the last 3 places: Indiana, Chicago, Detroit, Miami, Milwaukee, Charlotte.
my 3 favorite teams are: Chicago, Indiana Miami

In Western Conference seems ,almost, all decided:
1) Golden State   2) San Antonio (both already mathematically qualified for the playoffs) 3) Houston
Utah Jazz and Los Angeles Clippers  most likely will compete in the first round of playoffs
Memphis and Oklahoma will arrive in sixth or seventh place and find in Playoffs San Antonio oro Houston.
Denver, Portland and Dallas in the fight for the eighth and last place useful for the playoffs


I hope that portland will get the eight spot on east conference so that they can gave a good match on Golden state warriors. Dallas and Denver are too much overkill for GSW because they are both choker on playoffs, it is interesting for damian lillard face durant. But i can't say anything on west eight spot, Both chicago and milwaukee are my favorite, i hope that piston will suffer a lose streak so that both milwaukee and chicago will get the spot of 7&8. hahahhaa
Looks like the Portland is winning the game against the Thunder, they are leading now I hope they will win because it's great value with the moneyline though. I like teams to enter into playoffs that plays like a team, Thunder is only good because of Westrbrook but this guy can be contained and look what Dallas made to him which frustrates him with some flagrant foul.

Just in, they already beat thunder. hahahha. My heart beats fast because i bet on portland for 0.1BTC. Westbrook made an incredible points but they lose. I always notice that when westbrook scores huge points, they always lose that's why he will not gonna get the mvp title this season, he is very selfish on ball and short temper man, just observe always his FGA percentage, it is disgusting, it is just like a one man team. Only westbrook is the weapon of thunders that's why they are easy to shut down. If ever that he maintain that spot, I'm sure that coach pop will have a easy time on thinking a gameplay.
2135  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: March 08, 2017, 03:41:21 AM
Maybe I will start trading if I got huge amount of money from gambling. It seems good to do trading because trading considered as a legal and honorable activity. So, if someone asked me, what do you do while online? I can give him a good answer and no need to lie anymore.
Not a bad idea. The more you have the less risky methods you can choose. If I won like 2BTC, I'd invest in a casino, or try my luck in trading. If we're talking about something like 10BTC, I wouldn't even think about investing and focus on doing what I like, maybe look for a better job while my money are working for me. Big money can give you a nice profit from holding and it doesn't take your time nor require special skills.
i have won over 1 bitcoin several times and decide to bring the profit to my trading account , yet i lost half of it trade on dogecoin. trading not always safe and having less risk , especially in cryptocurrency trading , everything are really complicated and hard to predict. based on that experience you should looking for another option , or if you insist to do it an then go ahead and goodluck.

Trading is very risky if you just all in your money on a single crypto currency, Crypto's are well known for the volatility of price so it is nice a good idea if you just focus on a single currency that's why you lose too much, especially you invest on weak coin like doge. If you just spread your investment on different stable crypto like dash,eth,monero and others, you will not suffer great lose but it is another scenario if the price deflation of the currency you invest is affected of bitcoin price surge because all crypto's are affected on that scenario.
2136  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: March 08, 2017, 03:19:28 AM
trading is safer and the chances of losing is lower and the more the skill and knowledge you have about,the better it helps in controling your gain, but at  gambling your gaining chance is lesser compared to trading.
yes but i think trading is harder way of making money as compare to gambling because in gambling you only depending on your luck and if you are luck then you will win money in it while in trading you need a lot of experience and skill and then you can think about bitcoin to makie money from it.

Trading needs patience so that you can assure profit compared to gambling, But in terms of difficulty on earning money, i think it is hard to have profit on gambling compared to trading because gambling is a fast game and high risk compared to trading that is easy to earn if you just good on waiting the right timing. Many people saw gambling as the easy way on earning but it actually the easiest way on losing money so if we do the math, we can conclude that you are not gaining any profit but losing instead if i sum up all my profit and loss.
2137  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: March 08, 2017, 03:15:14 AM
For the Eastern Conference, important victories for Miami (against Cleveland), Detroit (direct clash against the Chicago Bulls), Charlotte (direct clash against Indiana) and Milwaukee for useful places in the playoffs.

There are 6 teams fighting for the last 3 places: Indiana, Chicago, Detroit, Miami, Milwaukee, Charlotte.
my 3 favorite teams are: Chicago, Indiana Miami

In Western Conference seems ,almost, all decided:
1) Golden State   2) San Antonio (both already mathematically qualified for the playoffs) 3) Houston
Utah Jazz and Los Angeles Clippers  most likely will compete in the first round of playoffs
Memphis and Oklahoma will arrive in sixth or seventh place and find in Playoffs San Antonio oro Houston.
Denver, Portland and Dallas in the fight for the eighth and last place useful for the playoffs


I hope that portland will get the eight spot on east conference so that they can gave a good match on Golden state warriors. Dallas and Denver are too much overkill for GSW because they are both choker on playoffs, it is interesting for damian lillard face durant. But i can't say anything on west eight spot, Both chicago and milwaukee are my favorite, i hope that piston will suffer a lose streak so that both milwaukee and chicago will get the spot of 7&8. hahahhaa
2138  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to make a good amount with 0.01BTC? on: March 07, 2017, 10:31:17 AM
0.01 bitcoin is good enough to start gambling mate try to play dice games first
that game easy to play or you can play slot games to get huge jackpot
if you expert at sports game better you bet it on sportsbook Smiley
Any amount is good ,as long as you can afford it to lose some gamblers bet even they can't afford it so they are really desperate to win and under control by their greediness .If you want to make money with 0.01 you should take risk and accept if you lose .There's no proven stratedgy thay will work, so gamble at your own risk.

I'm quiet impress about your opinion. I believe also that if you want to win on gambling, you must gamble only the amount that you can afford to lose so that there is no threshold on you while you gambling. This is my first lesson that i've learned on gambling since i lost huge amount. I'm always nervous that time and come to the point that i don't know what i'm doing due to losing huhe amount. But now, i do my research carefully and apply it.
2139  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice EdgeBack/Rakeback discussion on: March 07, 2017, 10:17:22 AM
I'm curious about your rakeback offer on site. Is this some kind of referral system. Just like having 2 accounts on same dice site. The one account use on playing while it is refer by other account. I'm not sure about this but you are just having a profit on percentage of referral and at the same time on ads on your site? Can you explain further details to me on how your site benefits for this rakeback. Thank you
2140  Local / Altcoin Announcements (Pilipinas) / Re: ☘️☘️[ANN|ICO]EDGELESS CASINO - 0% Edge & Full Transparency☘️☘️(50000ETH raised) on: March 07, 2017, 02:07:27 AM
Pag maganda ang support ng mga investors tiyak magigin g successful ito. Subukan kung mag invest dito baka sakaling kikita tayo, hindi lang bounty and mero ako parin na rin investment para double yong kitaan.

Ayos ang mga investor nila, naglilipatan na sa edgeless ung mga investor ng vdice dahil mas promising nmn tlga ang edgeless in terms of development and future plan nila sa casino nila. invetor dn ako date ng vdice pero nawalan nko ng gana sa kanila simula nung pinabayaan nila ung coin nila na madump sa liqui. Sa liqui lng tlga nila ni list coin nila para makatipid, nd nila inisip un magiging effect ng price deflation ng coin dun.





Tanong lng OP about signature campaign. Pwede ba sumali jn ung mga may negative trust rating acct.? Wala kc nkalagay sa rules ng campaign. Bka maging lagaya dn kc to ng chronobank. Sobrang dme ng participant kaya npaka konti ng sweldo
Pag ang isang signature campaign Hindi nakalagay sa rules Na bawal ang may negative trust pwede kang sumali. Kasi kung bawal talaga Nasa OP Na agad yun nilalagay.


Tama yn. Gusto ng edgeless na makapagparticipate lahat bsta wag lng tlga mag spam or any flame post. Pare2ho lng dn nmn kc ang impact ng post ng may red trust o wala, minsan nga mas napapansin pa ung post ng may redtrust kesa sa neutral trust, at maganda un sa market ng promotion.  Cool



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