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2121  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HODL, HODL, HODL when can one actually sell Bitcoin? on: October 24, 2021, 11:52:42 PM
You don't have to HODL all your coins and you don't have to sell all your coins. If you need to buy something and you don't have fiat for that, just sell some BTC if you really-really need it. Of course the problem here is that those coins can grow 10 times higher in a few years, but I think this is the beauty of BTC - it really makes you be more responsible with your money. But I think that HODLing forever is an unnecessary extreme, money won't bring you happiness when you are old and have more of them than you need.
2122  Economy / Economics / Re: Steam bans blockchain games on: October 24, 2021, 11:23:40 PM
Those who play blockchain games do this for different reasons: extra income is a big attractive, what doen't mean all of them are trying to get rich by speculating few assets at a high price, but there are also competitive players who spend lots of money to reach the top of a server's ranking and/or to oppress another players, exactly like in regular online games and in real life. Moreover, considering how miserable the world is, to get traction is just a matter of time, because there are millions of people looking for extra income and if it's possible to make it through a video-game they will go for it without any doubts.

Gamers are spending hundreds of dollars on their PCs or consoles and then hundreds of dollars on games every year, why would they need opportunities to earn some pennies? People play games to relax, not to earn money. When a game is turned into a job it stops being a game, it becomes a boring grind.

There are already enough markets for games that doesn't feature real-money trading directly, and the small minority of players that wants it uses them, so blockchain games aren't exactly revolutionizing anything. This is a typical case of blockchain devs having no idea what people want and need, and just trying to fit their "revolutionary technology" when no one asked for it.
2123  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will bring the chaos what the world need. on: October 24, 2021, 02:34:25 PM
People were saying that Bitcoin is the future for many years already, well that future is today, and Bitcoin didn't became the base currency of the world, it didn't even became a popular currency, it's mainly used as a speculative investment / store of value. Even becoming a popular store of value doesn't guarantee that it will become popular currency that will revolutionize finance and society.
2124  Economy / Economics / Re: Legalising would give a chance to Latin America on: October 24, 2021, 01:16:11 PM
I also think that it's naive to think that cartels will simply vanish if all drugs were to be made legal. They are so powerful that they can just switch to other activities and keep extending their control over society with their unmatched monopoly on violence. They have already amassed large amounts of money and resources which would allow maintaining their structure for a long period of time.
2125  Economy / Economics / Re: Steam bans blockchain games on: October 24, 2021, 12:45:25 PM
Maybe in some years when blockchain games start playing a bigger role on the gaming scene they will be forced to make some adjustments, but by there I don't expect anything to happen.

Blockchain games will never get any traction, gamers don't care about blockchain technology, NFT and other buzzwords. The people who engage with them are just those who try to get rich quick on a speculative market.

So the issue is that real money is spent for game stuff, right? Well, how about FIFA's loot boxes, then? People pay with real money to get better players, and in an addictive way. But this is no problem for Steam because it's not blockchain-based?

No, the real money isn't the main issue, the issue is that those games are created just to make people participate in speculative investing on a highly rigged market. Steam wants nothing to do with that, it's a gaming platform, not a stock exchange.

While EA's lootboxes are highly problematic, they are not the same as some blockchain game NFT's that people buy to get rich quick.
2126  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Truth about burning off coins on: October 24, 2021, 11:53:56 AM
good utility should take the front.

Good advice in theory, but doesn't work on practice. Newbies don't understate how to measure a coin's utility, and they get easily misled by marketing materials or shill articles/videos that make them believe that they are investing in a "good project".
2127  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin, the only currency of people with unity on: October 23, 2021, 11:27:01 PM
1. Zero Tribalism: Since the creation of bitcoin, every investor has preferred to stack satoshi to their wallet rather than attack individuals who disagree with their motive. You will hardly find two or three people insulting each other because of tribalism, which is even a common thing you find in our traditional finance when people disagree with each other, but bitcoin is the currency that was developed to fight the failed governments rather than people attacking each other.

Bitcoin maximalists are attacking shitcoins and banks all the time. And even inside Bitcoin community there was a large schism when big blockers split off to start their own coins.

2. Built courage among others: This is nothing new to anyone who has held bitcoin; it is not simple to hold, but if you have managed to retain bitcoin for a long time, you will find it quite easy to navigate through life since bitcoin has been through many ups and downs and has always survived. Bitcoin teaches patience and perseverance, and if you pass its trial, you will go through subsequent stages of life.

Bitcoin is just a currency, stop inventing some magnificent and unrelated properties for it.

3. Bitcoin has unite different cultural Background: Even on this forum, many individuals have become friends over the years, this is what bitcoin represents and will continue to symbolize till infinity. Bitcoin has touched several aspects of technology from various nations, beginning with youtubers, content creators, web designers and developers, and graphic designers.

There's nothing remarkable about people from different countries having a common interest, it happens with every hobby these days.

4. Bitcoin, the legendary poverty elevator: If you bought $10 worth of bitcoin in 2012 and have managed to retain it till today, regardless of your financial situation, you should be eating well and staying healthy, and possibly taking a break from your time-consuming work.

And how many poor people bought $10 worth of BTC in 2012 and held it to this day? Dozens?
2128  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Going public saying you own Bitcoin is not safe anymore on: October 23, 2021, 10:15:58 PM
IMO this is one of the arguments against widespread Bitcoin adoption, because security against such attacks is one of the reasons banks became popular. And Bitcoin really does make such crimes easier, because you don't need to meet in person to get money, and you can anonymize it rather effectively. Bitcoin is already the go-to payment method for ransomware, it's only natural it will be such for real world ransoms too.

Telling people to not flash their stash  is a good advice, but there's also no security by obscurity. So this is likely another reason why in the future there will be Bitcoin banks.
2129  Economy / Economics / Re: Legalising would give a chance to Latin America on: October 23, 2021, 09:47:18 AM
In reality, this is not the case. Nowadays, as long as you live in a city or in a metropolitan area that is of a certain entity, say over 50K inhabitants, you can get all the heroin you want and without showing ID. Also, no matter where you live, nowadays with Bitcoin and the deep web you can also get what you want. The difference is that what they sell you as heroin you don't know what it is cut with.


Sure thing experienced junkies can get drugs as easily as picking groceries from a store, but for people who never done it it's not that simple, they don't have connections with the drug dealers, they have higher chance of getting scammed or meeting an undercover officer.

And currently America is undergoing a large opiod crisis which has its roots in completely legal prescription drugs. This is a glimpse to what a full legalization of all drugs could hold.
2130  Economy / Economics / Re: Legalising would give a chance to Latin America on: October 22, 2021, 11:43:14 PM
If I remember right, portugal and spain have had success decriminalizing drugs. There is documented real world application for that policy being effective.

Decriminalizing personal use of drugs is very different from making all drugs legal.

There are many inaccurate perspectives in public circulation. Many say its only possible to become addicted if someone has a weak will or a weak spirit. Untrue. Drugs tap into the part of the brain that tell the body it needs to eat and breathe. Quitting drugs can be like resisting the natural urge to eat / breathe. Which is part of what makes it so hard to overcome. For some its just a part of their natural environment and lifestyle. Its hard to escape unless their environment and social circle shifts.

Drugs like heroin basically replace chemicals in human body that are responsible for certain functions, so it can be impossible/deadly to get off such drugs as the body no longer produces those chemicals.

It's a really hard discussion whether such things should be freely available to people or not. Removing drug cartels is just one part of the equation. Lives ruined by easily available drugs is the other.

Yes, it's true that people find ways to get drugs when they are illegal, but this absolutely does deter some potential users. If getting hard drugs was as easy as going to nearest shop and showing your ID, a lot more people would get addicted. Anyone can have a bad day or a depressive episode and decide to alleviate it with some heroin.
2131  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Effect of currency burning on Bitcoin price on: October 22, 2021, 09:40:11 PM
The type of coin burning that you describe happens because of the centralized supply and the holders of said supply trying to improve the image of their coin. Bitcoin doesn't really need that, because no single entity controls a significant portion of all coins. Satoshi is likely the largest holder of coins with their speculated 1 million coins, but even that is just 1/21 of supply, which is not that big compared to shitcoins that have 50% of even the whole supply premined.

If Satoshi's coins are no longer accessible, you could consider it the biggest act of "burning" in Bitcoin history, though of course those coins were not provably destroyed.
2132  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can novices quickly earn the first pot of gold in cryptocurrency and then re on: October 21, 2021, 09:19:21 PM
The several cryptocurrencies I invest in have brought me more than 7 times of income. I think this method is effective.

Everyone feel like they are the next Warren Buffet when they make some profit in bull market, but sooner or later a sudden bear market comes and all your shitcoin stash will be worth 5% of the original investment.
Buying shitcoins and hoping that they will pump is really not a sound strategy, this irrational market will not last for long, sooner or later everyone will realize that there's no reason for coins with no user base and use cases to cost so much.
2133  Economy / Speculation / Re: Elon Musk Sees Bitcoin Price Reaching $69,000 on: October 21, 2021, 08:16:55 AM
Can we please stop caring about what Elon Musks says? It really makes Bitcoin market look immature, when its price can be so easily influenced by a single celebrity. I'm sure that if Elon Musk tweeted "gold will reach $100,000" gold wouldn't move by even 1%

The number 420 is now commonly associated with Tesla

By whom? I'm pretty sure most people in the world don't read Elon Musk's tweet or pay attention to his statements.
2134  Economy / Economics / Re: The Economic Gap has Exceeded the Tolerance Limit on: October 19, 2021, 11:53:35 PM
Do you think this kind of reality is fair?

I think fairness has no value on its own. It's better to have an unequal society where poor people have some decent living than to have an equal society where everyone is barely surviving. The global standard of living keeps getting better and better, things like child mortality or hunger have plummeted compared to 50-100 years ago.
2135  Economy / Economics / Re: Really, why bitcoin has this value? on: October 19, 2021, 11:17:03 PM
I just don't get it when people say that bitcoin isn't speculated and all of these prices are just natural.

Who says that Bitcoin's value is not speculated? But this doesn't make it unnatural. Bitcoin's price is not controlled by some small group of individuals.

Currently it gets more and more recognition as a store of value, so it's reasonable that it s growing. Demand is growing as more people realize that it useful for them, so there's nothing wrong with the fact that the network itself didn't go through some major changes.
2136  Economy / Economics / Re: Will circular economy work ? on: October 19, 2021, 10:45:29 PM
How can you achieve this circular economy? When people have a lot of money, their desire new and premium things instead of buying something old and used, even if its fully functional. If a government tried to regulate this and limit how much things people could buy, this would have negative consequences for the economy and would be met with serious protests.
2137  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: After a few months of China crackdown on mining. Check it out! on: October 19, 2021, 10:18:09 PM
I think in the future, the demographics of Bitcoiners will become younger and it will be unstoppable trend.

The fact that a large percentage of Bitcoin users is young doesn't mean that a lot of young people are using Bitcoin. In this context the important number is percentage of the population that uses Bitcoin, and currently it's in very low single digits for most countries, and much less than 1% globally.

Take marijuana for example, 15% of americans consume it regularly and over 50% at least tried it once, and yet it's still not legal in all states, and it was illegal for many decades and all the protesting didn't do much. Banning Bitcoin today would be an extremely easy action.
2138  Economy / Economics / Re: Helping Businesses Take Crypto Payments. The Good, The Bad And The Ugly on: October 19, 2021, 07:54:27 PM
1) Lightning network payments are the standard, so there's no problems with confirmation times and fluctuating exchange rate
I'm not sure this would solve the problem. Most merchants will still not want to hold bitcoin directly, so will be looking for a payment processor to instantly convert their lightning payment in to fiat, which leads to all the same problems as have been discussed above.

I'm not saying that it would mean more direct use of Bitcoin by merchants, Lightning adoption could also make the job easier for payment processors, so there will be more competition and better rates / less KYC and other bad things for consumers.

2139  Economy / Economics / Re: Helping Businesses Take Crypto Payments. The Good, The Bad And The Ugly on: October 18, 2021, 11:53:05 PM
IMO things will change only after some years when:

1) Lightning network payments are the standard, so there's no problems with confirmation times and fluctuating exchange rate

2) Bitcoin is less volatile and more merchants are open to accept it directly

Until then payment processors will suck, and in general user experience for an average person without deep knowledge would just be way too bad to use Bitcoin payments regularly.
2140  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Graph] Average return of Bitcoin, you can't lose money stacking continuously on: October 18, 2021, 11:02:44 PM
It's not exactly a secret that Bitcoin had great performance in the past, but this doesn't guarantee that it will have a great performance in the future. What you should be looking at is level of adoption, network metrics, code development, regulations in important countries and so on.
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