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What state ?
You need to understand how to use solar and buy back or sell to grid is the better then battery if your in the right state.
Here in nj
A peak field of 160 k watt will net about 30 kwatt 24/7
Which means you sell 130 and use 30 during the day.
Then buy 30 when it is night.
So it is a constant 30 kwatts .
No cost after set up.
Should last 20-30 years.
You need 1.2- 1.3 acres of panels to do what I described.
That is the size of our field.
It is the low risk part of your mining as the power is free after setup.
If you exceed the 30 kwatt that Mining is higher risk since it is full cost from the grid.
Buysolar and I do this expand and contract beyond the solar cap.
Knowing we can retreat to all solar.
Now when btc was 19000 we spent an extra 2k on power and mined like mad . Then a new tax year came and we sold gear . Our excess power for Jan was 1500 and for feb will be 500.
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I am taking a swing at it again.
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Where i live the rx 580 still being sold for $1000, gtx 1080ti $1450, gtx 1070 $1000, gtx 1060 6g $500, Vega $1400.
In what fucking currency dude? USD? Hopefully not. RX580 - 529.99 1080ti - 899.99 1070 - 549.99 1060 - 329.89 Vega 56 - 999.99 Vega 64 - 1199.99 All of that is in stock right now (02-06-18 @ 20:55 EST) priced in USD. It's too fucking high. I agree ... I'm not buying gpu's at those prices. But compared to your bullshit numbers, they are lower, if you are posting USD values. You're inflating your fucking numbers, because you pull them from your ass. Simple as that. If you want to post GPU prices, do it with some fucking accuracy and state the fucking currency, you idiot. Maybe that's why you don't state the currency ... So people just don't look further and believe your made up bullshit. It pisses me off so badly ... Lol ... Because I do agree with you. I don't think anyone should be buying gpu's at pumped up prices right now ... but you post bullshit numbers. I'm proving it to you right now. https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/7uxgei/gpu_stock_thread_quick_guide_for_gpu_hunting_in/?st=jdbxtvfk&sh=2b2bab0dP.S. ... You are the only senior member on this site that has posted such stupidity that I've felt the need to call out and prove wrong! And I will continue to do it. only the 1060's are left now |
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Phil, why do you think the Titan XP is worth the extra cash over a 1080ti?
I was debating on what my next batch of cards should be...
The xp cards are not worth 1138-1200. They hash at 800-825 But I would i would not mind 1 or 2 of them. The Volta are worth 1800 or less if you only mine with them. |
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This is still for sale. With older firmware and slight downclock sound can be managed better then newer s-9's  |
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yeah it is going to be real gear. and I figured out why they did the campaign like this. the thread drew far more attention this way then with a simple true demo. The wait for April release.
My thoughts are now when I get the 4-5 units from Yoshi in early April will btc be at 4000 or 9000 usd?
and will bitmain have a 22th miner doing 1400 watts ?
Other then that I do look forward to using it.
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I kinda thought bandwagon, too. Crikey. 20% increase since this thread started 6 hours ago. That's something like 300,000 S9s. Anybody notice the lights flickering?
What is the 20% that you are referring to? It's important to understand that there isn't some kind of "global hash rate meter". Any website that provides an ESTIMATE of the current hash rate is doing that based on recent block solve rate. In other words how quickly are blocks being solved. From that, the estimated hash rate is calculated. How many blocks to you use in that calculation? One, Ten, One Hundred? The difficulty adjustment is based on how long it took to solve 2016 blocks. During that interval, there can be wild swings, even if the final adjustment after 2016 blocks is quite small (even zero). Of course there is new gear being switched on all the time. Stuff that was sold and just arrived (from Bitmain, Ebay, Bitfury, where ever) is going to get turned on. Nobody buys a miner and then doesn't switch it on for at least a while. It takes quite a while for miners, large or small, to turn off mining gear they have already paid for based strictly on BTC price. 507,964 2018-02-06 08:34:49 506,016 2018-01-25 01:48:20 1948 blocks in 12 days and about 7 hours 12 x 144 = 1728 7 x 6 = 42 1770 = 0% 1948/1770 = 1.1005 which is 10.05% of course switching large amounts to BCC/BCH can alter it. current number mean the s-7 and the avalon 741 will be retired soon. at 6 cent power an avalon 741 makes at 4 cent power an avalon 741 makes at 6 cent power an s7 makes at 4 cent power an s7 makes If I recall Hash Nest charges 8 cents so the s7 makes what does this mean diff will rise or price will drop until the s-7 is done and the s-7 is very close to dead at 8 cent price |
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This link is good https://btc.com/stats/diffthey have a 11-12% jump Here is a manual calculation below 507,862......2018-02-05 17:43:33 current block 506,016......2018-01-25 01:48:20 last jump 1,846 blocks in 11 days and 16 hours 11 x 144 = 1584 16 x 6 = 96 so 1680 = 0% 1846/1680 = 1.098809 - 1.000 = 9.8809% jump right nowbetter ways to think of it are the s-9 does 13000 gh at 1400 watts if you pay 13 cent power it earns 8.80 and you spend 4.03 in power that is a 4.77 a day profit for it. so 500 days for break even WOW...500 days ROI. assuming no more large jumps in diff. ( inevitable ) We really need to see 20 - 30 TH miners at reasonable power consumption. Who the F mines at 0.13 kw/hr... Jesus, some of you guys like jacking with the numbers to try to make your perception everyone else's reality... I mine and make a lot at 13 cents been doing it for years. in fact I am not even 13 cents all year long my summer rates are 16.7 plus some extra ac mmaybe 1 cent. and I do not mine 1 s-9 and 1 six card gpu rig. I do 3kwatt to 8 kwatts the rest is in 50-50 deals with a solar array and an office complex. = these deals save me in times like this. So other then huge bull runs I deal with 30 to 60% power cost all the time. So while a big guy may do five cents or less. The last 3 months have brought in a ton of people at 10 13 20 even 30 cents or more These people have zero idea of what to do right now. And if you note that I get hundreds of pms from small miners I know whom I am talking to. Not the 1000 plus s-9 miner or the 1000 plus six card rig miner. I have zero care for them. I actually want things to get bad enough for them to shut down and flood the market with gear. Since my office deal and my solar deal will still allow me to mine never exceeding a 50% power cost. yeah the 3-8 kwatts at home may become a loser but that works for me. since the solar and office deal are big enough to cover me. Phil, I would argue you are an anomaly, you offset your costs with hardware sales and other activities of an established respected forum member. I would say I am more sales and helping people setup and get into game then just mining. If I was going to mine and mine in NJ with no sales. I would build a solar array of 2 acres on a 7 acre lot And each year I would grow the array until it was 6 acres. |
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This link is good https://btc.com/stats/diffthey have a 11-12% jump Here is a manual calculation below 507,862......2018-02-05 17:43:33 current block 506,016......2018-01-25 01:48:20 last jump 1,846 blocks in 11 days and 16 hours 11 x 144 = 1584 16 x 6 = 96 so 1680 = 0% 1846/1680 = 1.098809 - 1.000 = 9.8809% jump right nowbetter ways to think of it are the s-9 does 13000 gh at 1400 watts if you pay 13 cent power it earns 8.80 and you spend 4.03 in power that is a 4.77 a day profit for it. so 500 days for break even WOW...500 days ROI. assuming no more large jumps in diff. ( inevitable ) We really need to see 20 - 30 TH miners at reasonable power consumption. Who the F mines at 0.13 kw/hr... Jesus, some of you guys like jacking with the numbers to try to make your perception everyone else's reality... I mine and make a lot at 13 cents been doing it for years. in fact I am not even 13 cents all year long my summer rates are 16.7 plus some extra ac mmaybe 1 cent. and I do not mine 1 s-9 and 1 six card gpu rig. I do 3kwatt to 8 kwatts the rest is in 50-50 deals with a solar array and an office complex. = these deals save me in times like this. So other then huge bull runs I deal with 30 to 60% power cost all the time. So while a big guy may do five cents or less. The last 3 months have brought in a ton of people at 10 13 20 even 30 cents or more These people have zero idea of what to do right now. And if you note that I get hundreds of pms from small miners I know whom I am talking to. Not the 1000 plus s-9 miner or the 1000 plus six card rig miner. I have zero care for them. I actually want things to get bad enough for them to shut down and flood the market with gear. Since my office deal and my solar deal will still allow me to mine never exceeding a 50% power cost. yeah the 3-8 kwatts at home may become a loser but that works for me. since the solar and office deal are big enough to cover me. |
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Lots of cards starting to pop up online second hand!
Still outrageously priced, but i'm sure there will be some bargains soon.
yes but watch out for dead ones. I am looking for: titan xp evga 1080 ti hybrid msi seahwak 1080 ti at retail or less. |
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If all your expecting out of mining is checking whatomine for daily fiat prices, then it's your fault for getting in for the wrong reason.
you didnt answer my questions. Are these "normal levels"for mining ? this is more a question for someone whos been around for 3-4 years, so you can take your 2 cents back You don't have to be around for 3-4 years to answer this question. There is this thing called a historic chart, you should try checking it out sometime! https://coinmarketcap.com/ Search for any coin that you are wondering what the "normal" value is. P.S. There are always exceptions, but many times the most profitable coins will not be on the default page of whattomine. I dont want to look at the historical charts of 1000 shits coins on coinmarketcap I want to know if $10 a day, with 4 1080tis is what the miners were making before this bubble. bit coin is nearing $5000 so the whales manipulated the whole shit I only bought 1 video card, some people put their houses up for this coin Dude 1080ti's came out in april 2017 mining zec they were as lot as 1 dollar a coin mining skein there were as high as 12 dollars a coin. so I would say 1 to 15 covers the range for the 1080ti now if you live in a 30 cent a k-watt power area you will struggle if you are in a 20 cent a k-watt power area you will be a little better off. and if you are in a 10 cent a k-watt power area you should be okay. here are 2 1080ti's in a 13 cent zone https://www.nicehash.com/miner/3HP8JBimhSyEiXDMsxtHXb6ArRDaPwESDwso 4.45 before power I clocked low they burn 10 k-watts or 1.30 so 4.45-1.30 = 3.15 profit per day that rig I sold for 2000 as I am not a scum bag like some sellers were. so it would stand a shot at breakeven in 600 days. as it earned 100 before it crashed. so 1900/3.15 = 603 days. now if you are in a 20 cent it would do 4.45 - 2 = 2.45 a day for 2 cards and if in a 30 cent 4.45-3.00 = 1.45 a day |
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the delta 2400 watts from parallel miner were really good but they seem to be gone
the ibm 2880 watts and the ibm 2980 watt are good but loud
be careful they have exposed 240 volt on the breakout board almost killed myself burnt my hand from the shock . I would cover all of the exposed leads on them
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This link is good https://btc.com/stats/diffthey have a 11-12% jump Here is a manual calculation below 507,862......2018-02-05 17:43:33 current block 506,016......2018-01-25 01:48:20 last jump 1,846 blocks in 11 days and 16 hours 11 x 144 = 1584 16 x 6 = 96 so 1680 = 0% 1846/1680 = 1.098809 - 1.000 = 9.8809% jump right nowbetter ways to think of it are the s-9 does 13000 gh at 1400 watts if you pay 13 cent power it earns 8.80 and you spend 4.03 in power that is a 4.77 a day profit for it. so 500 days for break even |
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Someone might be having the issue I'm having in my garage, so here it goes:
After I've added couple more rigs to my small garage setup (now 14 1080 ti total), my garage door opener stopped working from outside. Cue in pissed wife.
Did anyone tackle an issue like that? RF interference seem to block the remote signal from outside, extending the antenna to outside did not help (it probably hurt as I did not care for the wavelength of the remote signal vs added antenna cable length)
Any solutions?
psu's may be issue not gpu rigs. get an fm radio and try to find a channel that gets interfered with whne you turn on a psu. rosewill tokamak does it. if you find out a certain psu is doing it build a faraday cage around the psu. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cagehttps://www.target.com/p/small-milk-crate-wire-basket-antique-pewter-with-copper-colored-handles-threshold-153/-/A-16251826?lnk=rec|adaptpdpexsrch|related_prods_vv|adaptpdpexsrch|16251826|0 this may work it is hit or miss Hmm, I have three of those PSUs 1500W Tokamak. Now to think of it, the computer case is supposed to filter some of that noise. But in my case the PSUs are placed on a wire rack. Would there be any benefit running a wire to from the PSU to ground I wonder. Computer cases act as a faraday cage - if the machines are in standard cases, they should NOT be the issue. Might be voltage sag caused by so many rigs in the garage though. Does the opener have it's own dedicated circuit or does it share a circuit with something else? Then there is the obvious thing - did you check the batteries in the REMOTE? the rosewill tokamak give off a ton of rf he could simply turn them off to see what happens. Faraday cages are not hard to design if it is only those 3 psu's Also measure the cable for the antenna and go exactly 2x or 4x or 8x the length of it. |
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Not sure one guy made a decent offer. I am driving to the solar array to pick it up. Will clean it and post some photos. old firmware so fan is set to 50% and freq to 575 which means it is not crazy loud.  |
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Yeah those are onda mobos plus cases that are on alibaba. Really nice cases with overkill 3700rpm fans. Keeps my 1070ti minis at 60 degrees.
That shirt will be drying very very quickly, that's for sure!  How much are you paying in rent for this type of room, if you don't mind sharing? How many rigs will you stack in there? Funny I thought the same thing. |
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Please let me know if you have one available.
Are you in usa? |
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Please stay on topic. no random rants as these tend to happen with these power/riser threads. IF YOU CAN - please answer back with number indication. Ex 1. ect. 2. ect 3. ect ect ect.. 1. dual 8 pin adapter off gpu. how many watts ? 150 or more. no one has a clear answer. i know that 150 watts per single 8pin is standard and it's well below it's max. but does the dual adapters that psu's come with just hanging on that same 150 watts (however it can go more because it's just the specification?)?
Some will do 150
Some will do 200
Some will do 250
Few will do 275-3002.dual 8pin on 1060 are safe (going off question 1's answer 1060's - two should be hitting your 150 watt rail not hard as it's maximum is higher much anyways). how about 1070. i guess it depends on card? thoughts? Some 1070 are eight pin dual with 180 tdp most all won’t melt a dual 8 pin pcie cable.3a. dual sata female to 6pin. does it pull power equally off each sata port? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812400106&cm_re=dual_sata_to_6pin-_-12-400-106-_-ProductCan not tell as I do not have a good view of it. But I think not from the view I see3b. can i use 1 sata string cable from psu with 4 male connections and use 2 connections of 54 watts(per sata adapter specs) to get a total of hopefully 100+ish draw. or do i need 2 separate sata cables. from what i understand the sata plug (just the tip not the wiring) is only able to allow 54 watts within it's limitation but if i use multiple plugs (***on the same cable***) does each plug have it's own rail is what im saying. if so that would make all those 4 port sata plugs useful in some sense. The one you link looks to have a 2x draw on 1. And a 1x draw on the other. If I am right you can only balance if you feed it from 1 sata cable using 2 connections . If you feed from 2 cables it will draw harder on one cable then the other 3c. if 1 molex string from psu can power usually 2 1080ti's. or 1 if u overclocking. then technically if 3a. is true and it equally pulls. and 3b is true separate rails. then can't a single 4 string sata cable from psu, with 2 y adapters of sata going to a 6pin, be possible??? my main point is im lacking molex plugs on my psu. how can i use the sata's effectively. now i wouldn't run 2 y adapters on a single string, but if molex can run 2 on a single string. why can't sata, im guessing it matters about gauge wire at that point? im assuming the equal pulls and different rails and gauge all factor in to this. but this is advanced knowledge that is hard to find and only real people deep in the mines who messed with adapters know and i would love some info... 4. My problem is i got 4 dual pci rails off psu and 3 1080ti's plus 2 1060's. the 3 1080 ti's using dual pci express 8pin adapters. the the 1060's sharing the last dual 8pin. the peripherals that came with my psu are 2 molex strings and 5 sata. how should i power my 5 cards, best options???. my opinion would be all 5 cards get there own 4 pin molex but i do not have that. more or less. can i use 2 risers per molex string for 1080ti? should i do the y adapter from dual sata to 6pin on the 1080ti's.. (i got some crappy unsafe sata risers but 1060s draw such little power that it's ok to use them on them .1070's can be a different story however).. regardless that 3rd 1080ti how should i go about powering it if i only got 2 molex strings. Now it's obvious if i had the equip in front of me i'd be trying out stuff. i got a grasp of being safe with 1060's and 1070s. i just wanna make sure without blowing money on all different adapters i just get the info i need for 1080ti's and be done with it.. you guys know whats best. and it's obvious my answer should be a simple do this as i know whats up  . 5. F it all , if adapters don't work and 3abc all is shit. how do i just buy more pata's for my psu. the website sells hx wires but not separately for the higher watts versions. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139205help me please. i will be building six (3 1080's ti's and 2 1060's) rigs in the coming days and just want this riser power question out the way. any info in what i should do would be appreciated. Lets keep this page informative, as there is a lot of bs info out there on this very subject and others are in the same exact boat with me as to questions on how to go about the lack of PATA 4 pin molex cables in their below 1500 watt psu's. the question is what do i do. what is best. all these dam sata strings. are they all literal trash or can we retrofit them to 6pin or .... again. what do i do. |
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