most of all i love the fact that bitcoin offers decentralized system and this is the best feature that it offers. and also the Irreversible feature of it is kind of a good / bad feature but i like it so far. and finally the 21 million coin limit is good because making the limit any bigger would just kill the coin's value because the market will be flooded by the coins that miners would mine, just like Dogecoin and many others.
the rest of the features are things that are good but i would't care if they weren't there either!
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all that i can say now for sure is that Ethereum had more hype around itself than it had real value. and in my opinion this is why we are seeing continues price decline and i predict that it is is going to continue being this way until it reaches a floor value or if we see any significant new changes in Ethereum.
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honestly, i have been very disappointed with Ethereum so far. the price is just keeps going lower and lower. if you look at the charts in longer periods , you see that it doesn't look good at all.
and the recent "dump" is probably because of the previous pump which brought it up to ~0.0045 and now it is just declining because of the afterwards dumpings.
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My quotes are for "Engg.Chaks" the topic beginner... you just saying it is not ponzi does not make it any different!
the difference is big. a ponzi pays you with the investments from other investors. I pay you with the profit from the start-up.ok. lets assume it is not ponzi. what is this "start-up" you are talking abou? where do you invest all the money (investment) that comes to you which will allow you to return profit to your investors? Ok you have to trust me...if you do not trust me...do not invest. All the priciple is based on the trust... You can follow the "trust" on the pending investment graphic. the less is invested...the higher the ROI. let's suppose you are the only one who has invested...then you have 100% of the global dividends. if you are 2 investors...it's fifty-fifty or "at prorata"
Trust Is Earned Not Given Do you feel the difference with a ponzi? it's a real investment. if no profit...no dividends profit...dividends at prorata. BUT never a lost. do you know ponzi with sure only profit or no lost?
i think you seriously need to read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme
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if you only have 0.02 btc then my advice is not to invest it anywhere bacause probably you will lost it too Better wait and earn some more the way you earn this and then thinking of investing ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) wrong...(lol) it's possible to invest in a no-risk investment plan. what is wrong? There is no investment without risk and if there is then it's probably a scam Wrong ...because my invest system is no-risk. what do you mean by "my invest system"? is it what you have put in your signature space? can you explain how is it different from any other ponzi scheme, because your website has zero information on it. You invest minimum 0.001BTC This system is not a ponzi because you will get back your investment. If you invest less than 0.001BTC it is a donation. Your investment will be returned in less then 100 days. Amount of returns are always more then 10000 satoshi(except the last return)
you just saying it is not ponzi does not make it any different!
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Tell us what is your favorite strategy for dice and how much you have won with it?
the best strategy in dice is to quit it while you have not lost a lot of money on it and try other games for gambling your bitcion. but the most famous strategy that everybody is using when it comes to dice, is Martingale which is very easy but you will lose in the long run. you can also try other methods like setting a different multiplier and changing the methods a bit but all of them will have the same result.
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By the way, today is September 10th, at what time and which time zone is stress test starting exactly?
They were cancelled. See elsewhere in this thread. as bahamapascal quoted those scumbags are using the same strategy they used last time. they are spreading the private keys of the addresses which they want to use on their spam attack so the number of transactions go even higher by using other people's greed for making a 0.001 BTCi remember last time i saw the same thing on reddit on a post disguised as "i can't send bitcoin from my wallet, please help me" and then he started leaking 100 private keys. would you share the link please? That would be cool to make the correlation and determine if they are connected. ok after some deep searching in /r/bitcoin i finally found it ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) it was from a new, unknown account. here is the post that i was talking about: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3cf6qg/need_help_moving_coins_to_new_address/I have 1.6356 btcs in the address 1BhXei2ZzdqXQzFWWoDzyDU3kxHXhJ57nQ but I am having trouble spending them. The wallet I use keeps closing when I try to send them. Can someone help me move all of the coins in it to my new address 1Ac1nwLoKMrGxKnohJK6uAaZtou36Ho33o Here is the private key to the first address 5HygvRk7qNedE684krBVptrienjxGckhFscbL7HH96kqnu3SDVP Please don't steal them ok? If you do, think of children and only take a little bit.
and here is the mass leak (funny enough it is in the same post): https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3cf6qg/need_help_moving_coins_to_new_address/csuyyi3another one (with the same title as the recent one on bitcointalk that is moved to games and round now): https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3chere/stress_test_giveaway/and this was not the only person/account on reddit that was spreading these private keys
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Primedice username: pooya
reason: because PrimeDice is an old dice site that i can trust. on the other hand the site loads fast and easy.
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it is not a giveaway people. wake up!
they are obviously asking for your help to attack bitcoin, and anybody who is greedy enough to try and use any of those private keys are directly contributing to "spam attack"
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i don't think we can see any major rise in price this year (but anything is possible with this volatile market!)
i predict next year is going to be a lot more exciting for the price and it is going to go past $500. but the growth is going to begin as soon as a consensus is reached on block size and next year as we get close to block halving price will start to show big movements.
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i agree that the price will go down but not "free fall"!! i say this because we are close to weekend and price always goes down at these times and there is another spam attack starting to happen which might affect the bitcoin price but none is so serious to create a free fall as OP puts it.
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Ok, so how much BTC I need to store from now to be millionaire ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) in 3-5 years when Bitcoin grows mainstream ? 10 ? 50 ? 100 ? 1000 ? Share Your thoughts. you will need at least hundred thousands of bitcoin to become a millionaire in 3-5 years. because i don't think that bitcoin price is going to the moon, despite some people wish. it is going to grow but will not go to $10,000 for example. take a price that you think is possible to reach in the future and then do the calculations. i say that price is going to be from $800 to $1500.
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your question is not clear. you ask the person to send you 0.1 BTC and they send you the exact amount, they pay the fee from their pocket and you will receive 0.1 BTC which part of this process is your concern? did you mean to ask 0.1 $ ? because that would be different because of the volatile price ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimg%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fbtc-priceimg.herokuapp.com%2Fimg%2F0.1&t=663&c=nS0gmvw6rPrDsw)
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I still don't think investing in altcoin is a good idea. You need to find a pump&dump group or you have to really lucky to catch a coin before pump. Otherwise it's very hard to get better than %10 earnings.
nobody has ever been happy by joining pump and dump groups. these groups are not created to help you and me. they are here to make money by dumping on their participants. also second part of your comment is not a good idea either. if you are investing in altcoin market and hoping to "get lucky" then your are wasting your time and money. you can get more lucky in gambling dice.
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The current coin prices are very low compared to the prices in a longer timescale.
which coins are you talking about? coin prices being lower than before might be because they were just pump and dumped so the price had crashed. Which one would you invest in and why?
i have my on on two of the altcoins: litecoin and Ethereum for the time being.
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As a bitcoiner, using BTC online is very common. Have you ever used Bitcoin as Real money to buy Real/physical goods? plz share your experience. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) unfortunately i have never used bitcoin instead of fiat to buy physical goods , simply because there is no place that accepts bitcoin nor anybody who is interested in knowing about it in my country. back when anybody could mine bitcoin at home with their pc , there was a lot of talking about bitcoin in my country but as difficulty grew the bitcoin popularity shrank ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It was my mum's birthday yesterday. And I wanted to buy a birthday cake for her, but when I reached the bread shop, I realized I forgot carrying my wallet and I had only a few bucks in my pocket. I tried to talk to the boss of the shop if I can pay by bitcoin, to my surprise, she said YES and finally I paid the cake by bitcoin. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) This is my first time to use BTC as real money buying a real physical goods. if i go into a cake shop (?) and talk about bitcoin they are going to hit me with baseball bat ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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where is this deep web or if you meant dark web? i have heard about silkroad that was a thing before i even knew about bitcoin which is closed now and they arrested a lot of them.
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In my opinion you are overreacting a little bit. first of all, all the things that you are assuming is going to happen only "if the bitcoin will be worth a lot of money one day (a lot is somewhere around 10K USD per BTC)" which if you ask me, is not going to happen.
second of all, you are saying "People could physically threaten you or your family, attack your house, or perhaps hack you." the threat is the same amount if you are rich (have a lot of fiat $$$) now. i don't see why there can be any difference between being rich with fiat or being rich by having bitcoin!
i feel like your whole process of securing your bitcoins is a bit extreme with a lot of unnecessary steps, it can be easier but if it makes you feel safe never do even one step less.
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the easiest way and i think most common way is to make a paper wallet and then laminate the printed paper, it would increase its lifetime 10 times more. but seeing this thread reminded me to check up on one of my bookmarks which i though looks cool called Cryptosteel: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977486.0it looks like the project is not ready yet though
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