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OK, just because NeFAILure is keeping hostage 300X+ my double payment in assets of mine, I decided to send back my double payment, even if at this point I do not expect nothing of good from him anyway. (Just to avoid to be targeted in case by some miracle NeFAILure finds a way to send out signed statements of assets' property).
TX id of my payback: 65f39390d0cd401b796987857607a2639430ce470efc9f2a02184fdf45d3dec6
GLBSE second payment: 464afa3ef883f88cb4950e1ad980852ab01cb14929e91f30aa714f4c54e6e484
GLBSE 1st payment: c08067c0d047f2e5dab7d9ededb83262bf014d549dc9d2b36eb104a91b08a8d6
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No, if anyone is going to find offences which carry potential prison sentences (actual criminal prosecutions for AML type offences are pretty rare), it's the regulatory authorities. Users can certainly go that route if they want to, but they need to do so mindful of the fact that they were participating in illegal activity themselves and weigh up whether it's worth the risk of finding their own financial dealings under scrutiny.
From the viewpoint of civil law, "clean hands" might be a sticking point. If the user contracts with GLBSE and the asset issuers are illegal in and of themselves, then civil action to try to enforce them may well be futile.
So you are saying that since GLBSE users were not innocent, they would better suck whatever comes? I'd rather go in jail with Nefarious. |
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And under what cause could you possibly get him sent to prison? He's still processing payments and hasn't ran away with anyone's money, at least for now. He's also closing GLBSE, which is not a crime in itself. People don't go in prison for merely pissing people off.
I think a lawyer might find a lot of good reasons, even if you could argue that "processing payments" may reasonably take a thousand years. At this regard there is this thread: Legal Actions against Nefariohttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117655.0 |
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I would spend 14 BTC to send Nefario in jail. That is 10% of my GLBSE assets and most of what I still got.
But we need to find someone worth of our trust to manage the money and UK based to find and work with a lawyer.
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So I'm certainly not going to give recipients of the extra money scammer tags at least until Nefario releases most of the BTC and asset info.
Its ok not to trust nefario but what you are saying will actually lead to the point were nefario wont give out any more payment nor the assetinfo. I vote to put all the double payments in a legal fund to send Nefario to the jail where he belongs. Moreover I will donate all my GLBSE assets to the first convict who rapes him. |
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If someone accidentally left a wallet in your house and then knocked on your door asking to get it back, would you do the same?
Maybe I would do much more, if that someone is keeping hostage 300X that amount of my property. |
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They must give back the coins ASAP anything else is criminal and scamming. Shame on Theymos for suggesting such immoral actions.
I don't trust Nefario either but two wrongs do not make a right.
A few months ago I returned immediately much more than my double payment (0.40 BTC) to Flax and Chungenung, since they sent me BTC due to an error of them. Now, though, returning these bitcents to nefario seems to me like call back a thieve who has already taken your wallet to give him your watch. Moreover, I am quite sure that I had more than 0.7 BTC in my GLBSE account a couple of hours before the closing. The fact that he is threatening instead of returning immediately my 140 BTC in assets just persuades me of what a scum he is, and I do not like to follow the orders of someone who just stolen my property. BTW: at this moment 5 people obeyed nef. : https://blockchain.info/address/1BgPRMk4uaJrohM1T9Cn4Hd9pHaEL6FH5j |
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This is the most extreme betrayal of trust we have witnessed so far, it's almost a statement against the people with anti-government sentiment forcing us to "face the reality", that we cannot do business that depends on mutual trust without the helping hand of the State.
If I were based in the UK, I would have already contacted a lawyer and/or the police to try to move the violent arm of the Law against him with full force. (*) There is a limit on how much one can scam, steal and cause general mayhem with impunity even in the BTCsphere. (*) But I do not discard the idea of doing it from where I am. Maybe some of like-minded GLBSE users may start to cooperate to try to force him to clear his mess now or face some legal consequence. |
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Since he so far didn't repay any asset issuers their bitcoin, & his commanding reply, shows he has some plans.
Probably some evil and convoluted one,like everything he's doing. But to me, it shows one of the biggest A-holes I've seen in the last years. |
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It would be better to return the coins without me having to chase you for them.
I wonder why it is you who are still not being chased. How about returning our properties? We are still not threatening like you. And we are waiting from some time. Thank you.
Notice how you have to beg yet Nefario demands repayment from his mistake. Disgusting |
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Y'all got reverse-scammed!
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P.S. next time call DEA and ask them what license you need to sell drugs on Silk Road. The future of Bitcoin is illegal that might destroy current establishment and governments. Again, fuck the government, fuck any regulations and fuck them all!
Wisdom. +1 |
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I found at least a couple of really freeware alternatives (for windoz) last year. Both of them worked, but I did not find much use for them.
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OTOH, he's paying job may be coming first, attending to the paying back task at hand when he feels up to it.
Wonder which kind of work he might be doing, given his modus operandi. We may find about it trailing a series of disasters. But since he ran GLBSE just for fun, as you say, he is justified in dilapidating the capital of hundreds of ppl who trusted him. Hey: he is giving them a free lesson on life and misallocated trust. He should ask to be paid for that. |
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unless price doubles or difficulty halvens, I am going out.
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Problem is: how could they buy bitcoins? With their funny money?
Maybe they could try to sell some oil for BTC.
Anyone on the BTC market for a tanker or two of oil?
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