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2141  Economy / Economics / Re: Why have Bitcoin instead of cash? on: September 14, 2016, 09:20:50 AM
The only reason why I would choose Bitcoin over cash is because you can use Bitcoin as an investment which means that you can make more money with it.
Eventually it is going to lead to cash so that is the reason why I would choose Bitcoin over cash.
Exactly, now is the time to invest since we are given the chance to use something that will be popular in the future and that is bitcoin. Right now, since we are earning in bitcoin so definitely we should choose bitcoin over cash but that does not mean that cash is not important to us.
2142  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to manage money? on: September 14, 2016, 07:18:20 AM
The best way is to find more efficient alternatives to use your money, without spending on things that could be avoided and having savings to take advantage of opportunities that may bring you better returns in the future.

I agree, it is best to know the things that is really needed and those that are less important be set aside.  another approach is separate 10% to savings  and use the remaining for the monthly budgets.  This might be a bit hard if you are not used to doing it but you will find it will be a life saver in the future.

You cannot deny that you need to have a savings. But if you have very limited budget or income, it is hard to constantly save on payday. The only way to get a steady saving is increase your income. Fortunately, bitcoin can provide some extra income. And if you know how to do cryptotrading, there is more money you can get. You are not limited from what you earn from your day job.
That is not an excuse because I believe that we can still save even if we are not receiving a big amount of income, we just have to be discipline and focus on our goals, if you cannot save in small amount you will not be successful in bigger because you will eventually change your standard way of living.
2143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: September 14, 2016, 07:13:38 AM
Actually i never saw a man, who has rich from Gambling?
I m not playing gambling because i saw a lot of people who has lost everything in gambling.
So i want to ask if anyone is here how has rich from GAMBLING ??

Theres a possible rich person on playing gambling which are those who won  on lottery for sure because  lottery is also a gambling, a winner would actually become rich  instantly no questions asked because the amount is large enough to make you rich but  on some games  its really impossible because you would lose many times rather than winning.
Well there is already some people that are rich due to gambling. Some are already rich that still gamble, some are cheaters like on primedice that hacks the seeds so that he can know whenever to win or lose, especially the most people that gets rich are the website owner.
I also think that some of gambling sites had a cheat so always be careful when you gamble and always be wisely enough. Money is always needed in our everyday lives and that is the fact. We need to make sure that the gambling site is a legit also before we enter it and we need to be mature enough to understand what is gambling for.
I think they do not need to cheat because they already have the advantage, we might just be thinking that we were cheated because we are losing more than we can win in gambling, but that is just normal because gambling are designed to give us an entertainment while we are giving our money.
2144  Economy / Economics / Re: How to earn money with bitcoin ? on: September 14, 2016, 07:07:40 AM
Join a signature campaign,start trading,start lending BTC to people
You can also offer a service in the service section and get people pay you BTC for the exact service
Just try something,that's all
I think signature campaign is the most viable job here for individual who does not posses the skills which are in demand in the online world like programming. If you understand bitcoin it would be easy for you to join the campaign available here and it would help you to understand more on the necessary information you need to learn to start a most advance job like trading.
2145  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: September 14, 2016, 06:59:50 AM
People hate bitcoins because they lost lots of money because them

Absolutely correct. Most beginners find it easy to make money with crypto currencies.
And consequently they lose a lot of money.



They still make negative advertising of the technology. Sad

Haters gonna hate, no matter how good bitcoin is, either how great it helps the economy or people, those who decided to hate bitcoin will see no good stuff but hate it.  They maybe scheme that been done by group, a conspiracy  where all their purpose is to hate  bitcoin and bring it down.
I think people does not hate bitcoin because they lost many times, they only hate on the sites or where they invest of their bitcoin, if you know how to used bitcoin wisely i think you will keep your bitcoin intact in your bitcoin wallet.
Maybe but there are people who really think that bitcoin is the worst thing that happens into their life especially when they know bitcoin as an investment rather than a currency, because of the HYIP who are destroying the good image of bitcoin, some people hates it and we cannot blame them for that.
2146  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this what we called "addictive to gamble"? on: September 14, 2016, 06:55:04 AM
yes i think its called addicted if we are getting lose but we back again next day
we think our money will back to us to play gambling again Lol
It is depend also, if that person is always coming back just to get back what they lose and they are always thinking about that game. Then that person if already addicted, but if that person is come back just for once and then stop for now then I think he can control himself.
and he also know that he is continuously loosing money and still he is helpless to stop gambling then this person is really addicted, and at that stage it becomes too difficult to stop gambling you need a great effort to quit it.
We really need to be mature enough to understand why lots of people become addicted in gambling.
Before we can quit in gambling we should also convince our self that we need to quit as possible as we can.
We gamble because we just wanted and some of us gamble because they really wanted to earn money but the truth is they really losing it all and that is not good. For me gambling is just for fun and not to make money. Addicted person can enjoy gambling, win or lose because I think that is their nature.

not just that you mentioned for someone that is way or life and for some one excitement
no wonder that people say "what happen in Vegas stay in Vegas", personally i never been in Vegas im from Europe and hope that i will go there one day to see this from first hand
That's every gamblers' dream I guess to go to Vegas to experience the real fun in the gambling and to see and feel the hot chicks there. I wish I could go there one day and I have already a lot of plan to do when I go to vegas, anyway I will just wait until I win big parlays on my bets.

that is not "every" gamblers dream. it is the dream of those who can not travel to Las Vegas or travel to US in general just to gamble there. besides gambling in a real casino is harder than gambling online because you will be there and there are so many distractions that will prevent you from thinking and planning clearly so you have a higher chance of losing.
The distraction is good if what will distract you are the beautiful girls in vegas, besides that is just a once in a lifetime opportunity and you are not their to make money but to enjoy once in your life, I would never miss the opportunity if I will be given a chance to go to vegas.
2147  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: September 14, 2016, 06:23:05 AM
iam choose golden state warior can champhion NBA season 2016/2017
stpen curry is till good performance, and i hear kevin durant from oklahoma city thunde
can join to golden state warior , so warior can much big star and fantastic team

second place iam choose cleveland cavalier

I think you are just a passerby here in this thread based on your post.

Anyways it's really GSW who was on the top list that will take the next season's title but there are many events in the passed wherein first form super teams fail to get the ring.

Good example is the first form of big 3 in Miami Heat and big 4 in Los Angeles Lakers.

los angles laker collect big star and collect much ring champion, you can see fantastic play LA laker 10 year latter is duo kobe brayant and shaquile oniel , or miami heat several year latter dwayne wade and lebron james collect ring champion

after not star player you can see miami heat and los angles laker is bad performance

Well Im just pointing that even a team is favored in to get the NBA title , it will happened always.

Back when the Lakers formed their big 4 with aging players but still has caliber to deliver good performance, they was beaten by Pistons.

Also the debut of Miami Heat's big 3 also favored to be the NBA champion that season but most fans surprised that a silent Dallas Mavericks knocked them out.
That simply the purpose of the line is to deceive the public, for sure people are now already pounding the warriors to win the NBA Championship because of the acquisition of Durant, I would not follow them of course because sports books know what they are doing, this season champion would be cavaliers again.
2148  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: September 14, 2016, 05:14:35 AM
i earned +500% profit, but i want to make 1000% by the end of the month, so wish me good luck  Cool

Good luck with your gambling career mikey I know you can do it just be a smart gambler and don't fall for your emotions if losing is coming on your way.

Learn to control yourself when is already coming to you always remember that is going to make you into more amount of losing.

But if you are going to be calm always as you gamble then you are going to achieve that 1000% of profit.
You are lucky that you have earned 500% with what you are betting. Some people can't even doube for what they bet. Learn to have stops from what you earned don't be greedy with having more, greed is what's get to gamblers and suddenly your 500% profit will go down to 0 even worst lose more then what you are really betting. Save that money and bet another time start from 0 profit again.
Actually, we can earn even x10 of our bankroll in gambling but the only happens in a day when we are extremely lucky but in reality we loses in the long run because our wins in gambling are just all temporary, there is no limit in gambling in terms of our winnings but with our loses we need to limit.
2149  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: September 14, 2016, 05:07:28 AM
It is normal on gambling loses and wins, although more much lost than win.  Grin (lost about 0.033 BTC on sport gambling) but it is not make me stop play gambling, because everything has be calculated.

Well you are just like a programmed person already that you had been calculating all your bets already whatever would be the result. Win or lose still you are going to keep on gambling and you are right with it in gambling losing is already normal because that is the way to make good profit for being an owner of it and keep on supporting the game that you are playing but winning daily I guess that is not normal. Grin
Honestly even you are just calculated everything in your wins and loses you will not gaining any if you are not lucky gambling is always depends in your luck and gambling made to give entertainment so its a normal that you experience of loses. if you win you're lucky but if you lose you are not lucky.

If i had a chance to see the future who will win maybe i can streak win in sports betting but we are not fortune teller to know it..
That is the big problem because we cannot see the future, therefore instead of playing gambling for the sole intention of money, it is better to have fun and although we lose most of the time but if we are enjoying on what we are doing, we can easily forget our loses.
2150  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: September 14, 2016, 04:47:46 AM

in fact some bank do research about blockchain technology, in future i think bank will use blockchain system for his own transaction, but of course bank will be hold the private key.

Well they have the reason for it to hold the private keys since they are institution. It's not different with the current system just in another form because of blockchain technology.

It's a good service if bitcoin will use blockchain system. No doubt banks are helpful in many ways. There are just banks who giving dirt to this reputable institution and don't follow banking terms.

the blockchain system will help bank for secure investment, the transparancy in bank can be accesed by everyone, so people will know where his money used by bank. also this system will help the transparancy loan system.

bank need interest to pay his service, he need money to paid salary his employer, so with this system bank can take interest to each people who borrow money at bank, and use the interest for each cost of activity bank.
In our country there is no transparency on the part of the bank, because we have this bank secrecy law which I think it has been implemented all over the world, banks should protect our personal information and our transactions on deposits/withdrawals and loans to protect its clients.
2151  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: September 14, 2016, 04:43:29 AM
Why quit if your earning big amount of money on your job. You can only quit if your already tired on your work and decided to have a homebased job which is bitcoin.

There are a lot of reasons to quit your day job even if you are  being paid generously. Like you are already tired of going to your day job or you do not want your boss. If bitcoin can offer you a way out of boring office jobs, then you can take it.

Yeah if you want to be your own boss then you can go full time with bitcoins but you need to make sure that you are earning higher income in compare to your day job and try to multiply your earnings so even if price goes lower it won't make much difference to you.

Agree, on bitcoin world you are the boss and  no one would command you on what thing you are going to do but as we all know and mostly people said here that switching to bitcoin fulltime would be risky since of its unstable price and theres no guarantee to make  stable income.
Yes its not affordable to get full time in bitcoins at a moment as price is not too high and not even stable and there is no promise from bitcoin that it will achieve higher price in future.

There are a lot of jobs that you can do to be full time in bitcoin but you must be skilled in able to do that. Just like a developer of an alt coin or you are going to monitor your own faucet sites, yes sites not just one but many faucets you are going to build your own for sure you are going to get good profit when it becomes successful.
We should to focus in our full time job and do not leave this, full time job will brings you lot of money while bitcoin can gives us money also but we can not say that it will last like our job. much better to do both at the same time.

I agree with you focusing on your full time job especially when you are already have the regular status in your company is going to be the thing. So while you are working with your full time job it is going to help you and going to make you another source of income if you are going to keep on working with bitcoin.
It's best when you are earning in two different jobs, working online does not demand so much of your time if you know how to manage your time. Just know what to priorities in order to continuously earn income in physical and online world.
2152  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can a newbie earn bitcoins????? on: September 13, 2016, 06:40:00 AM
use faucet sites like epay or paytoshi. They have alot of faucets so you can accumulate all the satoshi from different faucets in one place and can reach the minimum payout very quickly.
Even though  he can accumulate the minimum payout very quick, its not enough for him to make a living or even get equal amount of money for his daily expenses. Faucet are worthless, You can try other way of getting source of income just like freelance or even joining signature campaigns. Just explore this forum and i'm sure that you'll find different kind of opportunities which can give you more money rather than faucets.
That's right, faucets are worthless because it is a waste of time, if you are a newbie you are free to try that but make sure you learn and you will be more ambitious to look for a better job that pays very well, signature campaign gives a decent pay but not something you can rely but in overall your 1 hour job here is way better that your output in faucet for the whole day.
2153  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: September 13, 2016, 06:33:32 AM
I will only play slot games in real Casino...but I don't think I really like slot games...

actually I prefer to play BJ or Sai Bo...



Well me either I will just going to play slots games in real life because I haven't try playing slot games virtually but I'm hoping that I can try it soon.

But as of now, I think I can't get back to gamble again because somehow I have hectic schedule and I already quit gambling.

I don't know if I can get back again because I am serious with it.
At least in real life though you know your chances is not that big but you get to enjoy the surroundings of the real casino, online games for me is only good for dice and sports betting but games with high edge of the house should be played physically to get entertained.
2154  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to manage money? on: September 13, 2016, 06:28:12 AM
I think the best way to manage your money is having power of will,you must be like a rock and spend  your money only if you need, the money must to be managed in a way that useless wasting never happens. For this you need, of course, a good plan.
That means you have to be discipline in managing your money, you will have to control yourself and do not spend on things that you really do not need, it is a matter of focusing your plan to reach your goal in the future, it should be a step by step process and first is focus on having a savings.
2155  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are your gambling stats? (Profit/Loss) on: September 13, 2016, 06:21:36 AM
Um...I think I am still losing, hope can turn it back to profit in some day...

but I think it is still a long way to go.

If you don't want to increase your loses then just skip gambling and do something else with the money you get or you have, the ones who tried to recover their loses in gambling had always end up losing everything they had.

Well he thinks that he has still chance a long his way. That is what I'm feeling also when I was losing every time I gamble. I am motivating myself that if I will just going to stop then I can't able to get my losses but what is happening is opposite, instead of getting the returns of my losses it is just getting worst and more losses is adding.
The problem is regardless of how you think, as soon as you have the available money and you cannot control yourself you will make a decision that you will regret in the end, it will result to spending the money that is not intended for gambling because you wanted to avenge your loses.
2156  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: September 13, 2016, 06:15:54 AM
Make a list of your expenses and try to select the things you really need. The other items that are unnecessary or less important, you should consider avoiding buying to reduce waste.
We do buy because we need and want certain things and money are here because it is suppose to be spend and not save only, although saving is good but you cannot just save all the time because you also have your wants too and you need to entertain your self once in a while to be more productive in your work, as long as you have controlled your spending then it is good.
2157  Economy / Services / Re: IDS Option Signature Campaign-closed on: September 13, 2016, 06:04:28 AM
I thank you for letting me participate in this nice signature campaign. I successfully received my last payment too, which was precise in amount and right at the announced date. I feel sad a bit because I have to leave this fine opportunity due to it was unfortunately closed, but I understand its reason and I have been still wearing the signature and making some posts after 09 from appreciation. Now, I am removing the signature, but I hope to work with you guys in the future!
Me either. It nice working with your signature campaign and it so sad you guys decide to close the campaign.
We know that it is sad to see this campaign has closed but the right thing to do is to formally close this by locking this thread, pleas OP do lock this thread to minimize repetitive comment about only one topic which is the close thread.
2158  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: September 13, 2016, 04:55:40 AM
Yes Girls do gamble i know some girls who gamble including my wife. Also everyone has the ability to gamble as long as the person has the money to risk. My wife always play poker, she's even better playing poker than i am.

Yes it is true, there are some women who do gambling. However I noticed that the woman doing gambling because it wants to find an advantage, so very few gamblers girls who get it. because they do gambling in a manner not fitting
Mostly women do gamble only for fun and I believe they are more getting entertain when they gamble with their friends, they have different mentality compared to guys of course because men wants to beat the system to become rich while women is not that ambitious.
2159  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Bitcoins safe? on: September 13, 2016, 04:52:50 AM
Bitcoin is only as safe as you make it, and I can say that with about 99% confidence because the Bitcoin network hasn't been effectively hacked for the past 7-ish years, so that means that the only losses have come from human error so far.

The best thing you can do is make copies of everything, make sure you have all the data stored in multiple ways, and make sure you don't do anything stupid. If you can do that you'll be good, mostly.
That is how safe bitcoin is and it has been proven for the past 7 years, people will not trust bitcoin when it is not safe in their eyes so I think there is not need to doubt bitcoin system, the news we heard that some sites are betting hack, it is true but their site is not safe and not bitcoin itself.
2160  Economy / Economics / Re: How to earn money with bitcoin ? on: September 13, 2016, 04:43:21 AM
I think you can find a work were you will get paid in bitcoins, and you can also try signature campaigns, to earn some extra amount.

Exactly, if you think you are skilled person and you have a lot of talents that you can offer like creating logo's or you are good with multimedia. You can offer it here and in other freelancing websites and ask your customers / clients to pay you with bitcoin (only if they know btc) or else you are the one to convert the payment of dollars into bitcoin.
I agree, that are some of the jobs that are in demand here if you have the skills to do the task on the above mention then you will earn a decent income here, you can improve your skills because there are also good competition online and once you get the trust of your employer that is when you will start a good journey to making consistent money.
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