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2141  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How will you feel if it happens to you just like this? on: September 25, 2023, 12:25:41 PM
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Well, there is also a good side to gambling, because what we see, gambling will only have a negative impact if people do it, and that is not true, that gambling also has a positive side, namely as you. said above, by gambling together. Friends who entertain themselves together to fill their free time will certainly increase the closeness of friendship between friends and each other, provided they remind each other to control themselves when they start gambling and later have fun together.
Of course, if we gamble with friends it will bring joy because we can spend time together. We can also remind each other not to gamble excessively and stop gambling when we have had enough. Yes, it will increase the closeness of friendship between friends, and we can discuss many things with them, and maybe we can get a good idea to start a business. Usually, this will arise spontaneously when we are together and doing the same activity, and from there, we can get something useful for us together. If that happens, we can avoid the bad effects of gambling because, as friends, we will remind each other.
2142  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do You Trust RNGs (Random Number Generators) in Casinos? on: September 24, 2023, 09:47:21 PM
That's why we have to gamble at trusted casinos so we don't suspect they are cheating. We can indeed check whether the casino is cheating us or whether they are really honest. But instead of doing that, it's better just to trust the casino. After all, it is a trusted casino. They won't want to ruin their reputation just because of a small problem. Instead of thinking about the casino's honesty or cheating, which might waste time, it's better just to enjoy the gambling game. If we are unsure about the casino, we can look for another casino that might not make us hesitate to gamble at that casino.
2143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Warning] Don't share your casino account! on: September 24, 2023, 09:29:47 PM
As long as you don't give the password of your email address, or the code in your OTP when you get a confirmation about changing your password, you will be safe, although like you said, they might still perform other abuses which can affect the reputation of our account.

Maybe there are also legit deals about this because some bettors are only being limited for winning too much. Limits might still be normal and not a kind of serious offense, and the limits can still reset after some time. If we are rarely playing, we can lend our accounts to them for a while and still make money passively, but if we are in doubt, then much better to ignore it.
There may be no transfer of accounts from us to those people because those people send us their money, and we place bets for them. But I wonder about their game, are they not afraid if we take their money and disappear from them? They also don't have our account details, so we still control our account or do we give them our account so they can use it to make big bets?

But lending our account to them is not worth it. At least, if our account is not used to using very large amounts of money, it will arouse suspicion from the casino. And even though our account has full KYC, the casino can still be suspicious. We really have to be careful with our accounts and guard them well.
2144  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Gambling affect your relationship? on: September 24, 2023, 04:47:02 PM
Your gambling habit can definitely affect your relationship especially if you can't and don't know how to control your habits because when their is lack of control lose of finance is definitely bound to happen and in most cases addiction or that loss of fund can make you very aggressive to the point of even getting to the point of abusing your spouse because I have seen many cases of such scenario happening over here and most times the police even gets involved.

You are absolutely correct, mahn; that's the same thing I was saying in my previous comment. Whoever loses self-control of their gambling habit will definitely have some issues in their relationship, either with their own family, if the person is married, or with their parents or siblings, because by the time their siblings begin to quarry them for their gambling habits, they could get upset and cause some misunderstanding between them and their family. Some cases, too, can cause the man to engage in domestic violence with their spouse after they have lost some money at the casino and are confronted by their wife. I agree with you.
So we are aware that gambling can have a bad influence on the people around us, so we must be able to pay attention to ourselves so as not to gamble excessively. In other words, we must be able to control ourselves while gambling. We don't want to see the bad consequences that we will give them if we continue to gamble because continuously gambling can change a person's disposition and character into someone whom the people around him do not recognize. There must be changes that occur in him that the gambler himself is not even aware of because only other people can see them. Moreover, there is nothing wrong with gambling responsibly because it can also prevent us from experiencing gambling addiction.
2145  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting significant amount on: September 24, 2023, 04:21:16 PM
This excitement can sometimes affect you negatively and you can have troubled times with it. Of course, there is an excitement when betting and it would be better to experience this excitement on the spot rather than at peak levels. I once preferred to take bets with high adrenaline with this kind of entertainment, but I eventually decided that it was not a good thing, so I don't like taking such risks as much as I used to.
If you experience excessive excitement, it can have a negative impact on you, and you may not be able to stop because you still want more excitement. You will drift into gambling without being able to decide to stop, especially when you see that your money is getting bigger and instead decide to increase the amount of bets. It will only provide greater risk than before because we can experience bigger losses, which can drain our money quickly. Remember that the bigger your bet, the bigger your losses can be. It's best that after you win a lot of money, you immediately leave the casino and don't gamble anymore but enjoy the winnings.
2146  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mistake that prevented your big win. on: September 24, 2023, 03:46:37 PM
Luck could be mentioned as the biggest obstacle that stand against us from winning big and at the same time calculations will be another factors also,  since we may have to make some calculative moves along the line while the game is still on and this the most thing take for example,  while live games are on and you selected multiple games and some have already won and you have enough balance in your cash out amount,  instead if using that feature to take the profits some become greedy want the whole sum in winning which at the end will lead them to lose may be the last game could be the doom game that shatter away the early winnings.
Live games are risky to place wagers on, Luck is basically what triggers us to earn in enormous amounts, though it doesn't favor the vast category of gamblers, only specific numbers that will enjoyed. It usually comes more often and happen to unexpected people. Mistakes keeps occurring, we can stop it but we can reduce them to the minimal ratio. Surviving in gambling space is all about winning, we keep winning because that's the only way to stay in the game, because anything more than that, it means we're totally on the wrong foot of accumulating earnings.
But when you can see that you have made a profit from your bet, you can close your bet and take the money. The rest of the match may change drastically because no one can predict the match's situation until the end. Wise gamblers will use all the possibilities that can be in their favor, even if that means they must close their bets before the game ends. But since it's a profit for them, they won't have any problems because a profit is still a profit. They don't need to risk waiting for the game to finish. And they also want to prevent greed that may arise from wanting a bigger win.
2147  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: September 24, 2023, 03:13:27 PM
Affiliate marketing is an effective marketing technique for any business. It opens a window for anybody to participate in the growth of the gambling platform. Thereby getting commissions according to how much the referred user spent. While it's hard to get some clicks or referrals that deposited funds. Affiliate marketing is not a waste of time. It remains the best investment of time, regardless of how long it took to get the results, the money keeps coming. Especially for a reoccurring niche like gambling, people play games everyday. The referrer is sure of a specific amount everyday. If the casino offer 10% each time the person wagers some money, and the refereed players from a specific marketer, let's say you, spends collectively 10k per week, the marketer is rewarded about 1k every week. Money works for them, on the long run. The marketer can decide not to do that again, and focus on other things and the money keeps coming, provided that the people he referred still play games in the casino he joined their affiliate program. So, you see how worthless it is to get paid for just signing up using the referral link without wagering any funds. It's disappointing that people don't know the huge opportunity behind promoting a casino using your referral link. It's the best way to sleep and earn money.
If a marketer can get their target, they will get a lot of commission. However, the problem is that many marketers fail to get many people to join them because they lack knowledge about how to market their products or don't know where to market their products. On average, they just copy what other people do without creativity, so it doesn't work optimally for them. If someone wants to succeed in marketing a product, they must be supported by a good marketing system and know how to promote it in the right place, which is related to choosing the place for promotion. When they have managed to find a suitable method, they will be able to get lots of people who join via their referral link.
2148  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: September 24, 2023, 02:50:39 PM
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If you are concerned about your data being compromised, you can always have an extra PC dedicated to gambling. That is, if you truly believe that the application will help you win. You know, when you want to win in gambling and you see an opportunity, you will find ways to make it possible while also minimizing the risks, no matter what your fears are.
I thought so too, and maybe I'll rent a VPS to try it out so that if something happens, it's not on my PC, so my data is still safe. But if the application is from the internet, we have to be more careful because I had a bad experience before. After all, I downloaded an application I didn't know, which caused me to have to reinstall my OS.

But what you say is true because when we see an opportunity to win, we will try it to see the results. High curiosity will suddenly come and tell us to take the risk by trying it. But if it is not accompanied by analysis, we will not win easily.
2149  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Importance of Gambling to the society on: September 24, 2023, 02:24:38 PM
this is a good topic for discussion. in my country, many sites that are related to gambling are very closely related to charity; they buy ambulances and also help hospitals, this is a good deed. It is good when companies have a profit and are ready to share it at the level of government assistance.
This only applies to countries where gambling is legal, this will make the people happy and very helpful for their life. But there may have problem when the country has banned the gambling. The citizen have idealism to do not use the facilities form money that get from ilegal money. This is still debate in my country's forums even use that money for sport sponsor, the people still not accepted and get noisy to return the money.
Countries that prohibit gambling certainly do not want to accept gifts from gambling companies and prefer to accept gifts from others. And people also don't want to get or use facilities that come from gambling money because they think gambling is illegal. However, some owners then use other methods that obscure gambling so that the public or even the state will accept gifts from gambling companies. If this is the case, gambling companies should not force themselves to give prizes, and perhaps it would be better for them to use other approaches so that they will have the opportunity to receive the prize.
2150  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: benefits of having mature accounts at 3 casinos (personal experience) on: September 24, 2023, 02:04:18 PM
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Gambling for the sake of VIP is a bit not a practical way since VIP program is introduce to reward active players in the casino. Using the VIP as extra rewards on your normal is the best to utilize it since your aim is to have profit using your bankroll while playing for the sole purpose of leveling up VIP will expose you to house edge loss in the long run without enjoying the game.

Most of VIP rewards is focus on rakebacks. You will not get decent rakeback if you are playing games with low house edge.
It is not recommended to gamble for VIPs, especially with our limitations because we will probably use more money just to chase VIPs. And it can also make us visit the casino more often and gamble where other problems will arise. We can become addicted to gambling more often and use more money to reach the VIP level. It's better if we gamble as usual and have no intention of reaching VIP within a certain time because we will be able to reach that VIP level without realizing it.
2151  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are You Tax Efficient With Your Gambling Habbits? on: September 24, 2023, 01:26:39 PM
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Of course, the payments of taxes depend on where an individual lives, and in countries where it's been demanded, they are reasonable enough to ensure that the payers are not cheated in any way, but this can't still be entirely fair. Although my country does not demand taxes from individuals, it's the operators themselves that are taxed, yet I still prefer no tax for everyone because it's not an easy thing to gain from gambling which is never uncertain. This is another proof that world leaders see things differently and it's causing some citizens to suffer from their policies if it's bad. I wonder how some countries would be able to track it fairly whether someone earns regularly with gambling or uses loan money for the tax to know if they are fairly taxed or not.

Thanks to the various ways we can gamble these days, and gambling with an offshore casino by using a payment system that is not linked to any government-controlled institutions like crypto is the best way out in this regard.
Usually, it is the operator who will be taxed while the gamblers are not taxed. Of course, we choose not to be taxed for our gambling, regardless of the results we get, especially if we lose more often than we win. World leaders will respond based on what is happening in their country and not because of what is happening in other countries because that will be irrelevant. But perhaps for certain countries, a regulatory body will supervise someone who gambles so that when that person wins, the regulatory body will ask for tax on the winnings. That person must pay it according to the tax stated in their report. The state can track how gamblers gamble and know how much they win and lose so that the state can adjust its taxes accordingly.
2152  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: September 24, 2023, 12:59:14 PM
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I agree with you. There are too many gamblers who have no self control when it comes to gambling. Others don't notice that they are too addicted to it. When you win, you won't notice that you spend too much time when it comes to gambling, but of course you don't always win there. Most of them always lose, while others are already buried in debt. So when you gamble you really need to be careful about everything, you need to control yourself, put a limit on yourself.
If so, we must continue to limit ourselves when gambling and prevent it for too long so that it doesn't cause problems when we have finished gambling. By controlling ourselves and being careful in everything, we can prevent the urge to continue playing, especially if we have experienced a lot of defeats. We really have to be able to control ourselves because many gamblers lose self-control when gambling, so we have to prevent it from happening to us.

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It's not easy to stop if you're already addicted. Gamblers who can't control themselves but want to quit needs a support group (family, professional help etc.) to overcome their situation because they can't do it alone since their behavior are uncontrollable. Though one must be determine to help himself in order to stop the addiction.

Therefore as a gambler, would you like to be in such situation before realizing what you should do beforehand? Play in moderation to not suffer what gambling addicts are experiencing due to the lack of control. It's fine to play games, have fun and have a desire to win but always limit yourself. Because if you did not, it's the start of having a gambling problem because of the way you treat it.
Yes, stopping is not easy, especially if you are addicted. Still, we are responsible for ourselves, so if we are addicted, we should start introspecting and looking for a cause to heal ourselves. However, most gambling addicts will find it difficult to recognize that they are addicted to gambling because all they have is the desire to continue gambling. But when awareness from within says that we are addicted to gambling and this must be stopped, we really need help from other people to stop gambling.

And when we get help, we shouldn't waste it because we really want to stop gambling and cure the gambling addiction. We must try hard to fight the urge to gamble for our own good. And even though we find it difficult to do it or go through the process, we must keep trying and remember that what we have gotten from gambling is defeat after defeat, and we don't want to experience that again. This will encourage us to be more active in healing our gambling addiction to go through the process well.
2153  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What does it take to play casino? on: September 24, 2023, 12:19:57 PM
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It is true, we can suffer losses if we do not control our expense management in the casino, if we could have the money power of a millionaire person I am sure that we would not do it by playing hard and betting hard, quite the opposite, if we were doing another type of thing, for example, betting little, and having few profits but with great profits, well, that would be something else, it is the most intelligent thing, that is why I at least talk about the things of betting more and having minimum profits, but not It matters, profits are profits, there is nothing to do there, what we should do is take advantage of that type of things, sometimes in the casino our movies, if they win little, we must be fine, because that is a sum, if every day you play , you win, we are going to have a profitability, small but we will have it, and that is the main thing, because the majority of people who play in a casino are not profitable, yes, I am sure that they have losses greater than the profits, and That's not abnormal, it's just the most common and it's not a reason to be ashamed either.

In the casino of the millionaires, everything changes because a millionaire person risks playing and playing or losing, if he loses it is not very relevant in his life, that money that he loses does not matter to him it will not stop affecting him at all, because it has all your comforts and everything available to be able to do your things and your life normally, then the fact of earning a lot of money, which for us can be decisive and which cannot be spent due to the fact that it can be compromised by certain things that must be bought Well, you shouldn't spend it, otherwise certain things get damaged and problems start, that's what you should see, however we could think that of course, a millionaire will waste money, but he doesn't spend that much nor does he get addicted or grab it like a addiction, because most people like this don't even spend money in a casino, the more they make money and the better, they use casinos to sometimes establish better contact and Increase their social Level.
That is why before we gamble at a casino, we have to allocate a certain amount of money to gamble. We must remember that the allocated money for gambling does not need to be used entirely because we also have to limit the money we use. We don't want to experience problems while gambling, so with the restrictions we apply, we will not use all the money and choose to leave the money to gamble another day. And with these restrictions, we can still enjoy gambling and return to the casino to gamble another day.
2154  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: September 24, 2023, 11:16:36 AM
Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
I think gambling addicts are not they they will be successful gamblers. Many of my friends are addicted to gambling and they end up in ruin. What makes a gambler successful is officially the luck he has. Or because he plays in predictable stakes like football or MMA matches. If it is a game in a casino then of course every game will be arranged in such a way. No casino makes games that are not under their control. That is my personal opinion.
It's not just about luck but also other abilities successful gamblers possess. Successful gamblers are different from gamblers addicted to gambling in that successful gamblers will not continue to gamble just to chase wins. A successful gambler knows how to treat gambling properly so that when he gets enough winnings, he immediately stops before things turn bad. He also wouldn't force himself to continue betting, especially if the situation didn't allow it. But gamblers addicted to gambling only want to gamble and chase more wins, so this will affect their psychology.
2155  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: September 24, 2023, 10:52:31 AM
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Yeah, I think one good way of looking at it is simply trying out say 30 days without gambling and instead using the same amount of money you spent gambling the last 30 days in something else that you enjoy.

It could be going to a restaurant, a movie, a trip, whatever, and pay it with the money you instead would have gambled away.

I'm sure you will feel better after those 30 days.
I've tried it, and the results are also very enjoyable because, with that money, we can enjoy other things that are just as fun, especially if we can enjoy them together. And taking a break for 30 days can take your mind off gambling and maybe stop it for a while.

And when we return to gambling, we will not have any burdens because we have lowered our emotions and may have better self-control. What is certain is that we will get interesting things during those 30 days, and maybe we can save money that should be used for gambling, but we divert it to other things that maybe don't really require money.
2156  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How will you feel if it happens to you just like this? on: September 24, 2023, 10:18:55 AM
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And if you look at the opinions of people who gamble to earn income, of course this is still doubtful, in my opinion gambling is just luck and we shouldn't expect too much to win, we will definitely experience defeat, even if we play with tricks. or even a good strategy, of course we cannot predict the winning results later.
I also think that way. Most of the gambling friends I know say that it is almost impossible to make gambling a source of income. But if it is for fun, such as betting on football, boxing or even NBA matches, it will be a pleasure in itself, there will be dopamine hormones that will make our adrenaline pump up when we see the match we are betting on.
That's true what my friends say, at least they are aware that gambling is not a way to get a steady income and apart from that they also make you aware, especially so that you don't get addicted to gambling, that's what good friends always remind you. we get good things so that in the future we will not be disappointed in carrying out an activity, especially regarding gambling. This is a positive thing for you. However, if you gamble to have fun betting on a match, for example, we will feel the sensation because it is only to entertain yourself, and of course you must always be wise not to overestimate the money you will bet there.
By making gambling a way to have fun, we won't feel too sad when we lose. We might enjoy betting, especially if we bet with friends because we share the fun of gambling with them. As long as we can manage our gambling well, we don't need to worry about anything because we don't use gambling as a source of income. And good friends will always make us realize that gambling is not to make money but to enjoy moments with friends. By enjoying the moment, our relationships with friends can improve because we will remind each other about caring for ourselves while gambling to avoid gambling addiction.
2157  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know) on: September 23, 2023, 09:59:15 PM
the KYC procedure should not be seen as a coercion so it is important for every gambler to read the TOS first.  KYC is implemented for good purposes, usually to prevent fraud from occurring, i know that, but on some gambling sites quite often KYC becomes an obstacle for users to withdraw their money, therefore following KYC procedures or not must be done with full awareness and without intimidation from anyone.  anyone must know what he/she is doing, whether you like the KYC procedure or not is your choice and right as a human being.
That is why every gambler should be able to choose a casino that will not make it difficult for him when he wants to do KYC. When he chose the casino, he realized that later he would have to do KYC when he wanted to withdraw his money so that they would prepare it first. But there are still casinos that allow gamblers not to do KYC, and there are usually certain restrictions that gamblers must pay attention to in order not to do KYC. Gamblers will not be required to do KYC if they do not cross that threshold. So it will depend on the gamblers how they want to do KYC.
2158  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lotteries and possibility vs. probability on: September 23, 2023, 09:28:42 PM
I don't like lotteries and I will never do, because it's like publishing one's self through days of one's life, I would rather sit in front of my computer and play Slots or predict sports bet than spending a dime on lottery tickets.

Those who gets into lotteries have no idea how slim the chances of lottery is, they are bad at calculation I guess, if not, it's enough to scare them away, you can gamble on a casino and win a few times in a month or two, but lottery is buying your chances over and over and over, lottery is the most worst one.

When the chances of turning something around is too slim, and you don't know how to walk away from it, the only thing you can do is to engage with your common sense, I don't even advise going the lottery tickets or lottery games like Powerball, they will get you financial instability or turn you into a homeless person.
We have chances, we should be able to turn it to our taste and earning remarkably from this opportunity we have successfully obtained. Lotteries are difficult and extremely challenging for gamblers, announcing top winners is rare, compared to sport gambling that have the necessary features of winning, I'm acquainted with this sector and countlessly withdrawn significant profits. There are other gamblers that also focus on lotteries to earned from the system. Lottery is out of the picture for me, I don't selects lotteries because I've zero clue on that sector, besides it deals with luck and not analysis data.
Playing the lottery is difficult because the game depends on luck, and only a few people can hit the jackpot. However because of the difficulty of the lottery, many people are curious and still want to buy tickets in the hope that they can win the jackpot. Moreover, with ticket prices that are not too expensive, they can buy even a large number of tickets, and they don't mind buying them for a few dollars at a time. People who rarely buy lottery tickets might think it is a waste, but not for those who have been buying lottery tickets for a long time because they still hope to win. And playing the lottery cannot be compared to slot games, even though both require luck to win.
2159  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: September 23, 2023, 03:24:51 PM
We, as good players, must always be very far away from everything that can cause addiction because it is one of the things that can significantly affect people's lives.

Addiction does not come to us, we are the ones that go towards it's direction and the whole thing got over us, when we are gambling with care and caution, we will always be mindful of gambling with all moderacy and this will always be a reminder to is to work against any form of addiction because we are being intentional in everything we do, there are things we do that we should let go of, such could trigger us to getting addicted, we should also make use of our time wisely and try engage with other valuable things that can cause us have a better gambling experience.
If we don't already have a gambling addiction, we must prevent it from taking over us. Many gamblers lose self-control and become addicted to gambling, and they also cannot make good use of their time by doing other things. We can only be careful while gambling and not be influenced by anything that could cause us to continue gambling without stopping. We control ourselves so that we don't get into any trouble in the casino, and if we feel we have had enough gambling, we must immediately stop and leave the casino. We can stop gambling if we want, but the problem is that many people still want the excitement of gambling, so they continue to gamble.
2160  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best Practices for Staying Safe When Gambling on: September 23, 2023, 02:52:54 PM
Perhaps avoiding excessive alcohol and drugs should be another consideration. Excessive alcohol consumption can lead to a state of unconsciousness, rendering the brain incapable of making rational decisions, and the only chance of winning becomes a matter of luck alone. However, there are still many games that require skill, such as card games or others.

An unconscious mind can lead to issues like reckless and uncontrollable decision-making, which can jeopardize your assets. Stay in a sober state of mind when engaging in gambling activities.

Honestly this is funny but actually the truth on this discussion because many gamblers work under the influence of alcohol and this is not good enough for their health and the safety of their mental reasonings, taking drugs or liquor will not help towards having better gambling experience than worsen the whole thing with them, doing so could also increase the probability of making mistakes, getting toxified is not a means of getting accurate with gambling.
Some gamblers are always conscious while gambling, and these are the ones who can really enjoy gambling as it should. They are not under the influence of alcohol and can still gamble calmly and not be tempted by all temptations because they know it will only have a bad impact on them. They also always check everything before leaving the casino and make sure their gambling account has activated everything related to securing their gambling account, including activating their gambling account 2FA.

But when gamblers like to drink alcohol while gambling, they may stay calm and won't get drunk. But in any case, if we are gambling, it is better not to consume alcohol because it can make us forget ourselves.
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