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2141  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: September 12, 2023, 11:32:56 AM
Gambling addiction can be described as a tattoo placed on someone's skin,if you are in,you are in already and there is nothing you can do about it.They say the sweetness of madness is only known by a mad man,the only people who can really tell what gambling addiction is are the ones who are affected or addicted to gambling.They can tell more better because they know what they have passed through from the day they started gambling till the day they know that they could no longer do without it.The worst thing that can ever happen to a struggling man is to be addicted to gambling,his money cannot be saved, therefore,his future is unsafe.
Those who are addicted to gambling can overcome their addiction, but they have to work harder to cure their gambling addiction. They will not be able to do it without help from other people, and other people can only find out that they need help by telling other people about their gambling addiction. If a man wants to fight his gambling addiction, he can ask his family members to hold onto his money and not send it to his bank account because he could just as easily deposit it into a casino. With help from the people around him or his family members, he can cure his gambling addiction, but he needs to pay attention to the things he should leave behind so he doesn't return to gambling.
2142  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Typical scenario when you are losing on: September 12, 2023, 11:00:26 AM
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Losing can trigger higher levels of adrenaline so that emotions also increase significantly and make anyone have the dilemma of stopping securing the remaining money they have but when gamblers have experienced an emotional increase they tend not to care about anything and the only thing that always comes first is being able to continue play until you get big profits.

About emotional self-control seems to be more difficult to determine than stopping when you have lost all your money without any remaining because people who have lost control can use any means to continue gambling sessions without thinking about the risks or impacts that might occur.
It takes learning and also some actions so that gamblers can control their emotions when gambling, but not everyone can start gambling with patience and easily accept defeat.

Talking about self-control there is actually a positive side that can be utilized from gambling activities if we want to learn about it namely being able to become more responsible, patient and always think with long-term considerations, but unfortunately not many people realize this.
It is not a dilemma if they realize it is better to stop gambling to secure the remaining money than to continue gambling. They have seen what happened to them in previous gambling, where they have experienced defeat. If they don't care about their money, it's up to them to continue gambling, and they will experience even more losses. And that will happen to gamblers who can't control themselves well because they think playing one more round of gambling is okay.

However, learning to control yourself is very necessary because the temptation of gambling will become greater, and perhaps someone will not be able to bear it if they do not have good self-control. If they can stop before they lose all their money, that would be better because they can use their money tomorrow if they return to the casino to gamble again. It's not easy to learn to control yourself, and it takes time before you can really master it well. But it would be useful if they were willing to practice it every time because having good self-control is useful not only when they gamble but also for other things.

What is certain is that if we have self-control, we can be more responsible with all the actions we take. We will have considerations before we decide.
2143  Other / Off-topic / Re: Keeping your gambling habit a secret. on: September 11, 2023, 04:12:00 PM
For countries that have laws that made gambling legal, it has some speculative age bracket given to it before you can start gambling. It is believed that at that age, your kind of reasoning should be matured, because for any decision you take, it's believe your well informed.
People's opinions will only be secondary. As a gambler, I'm conscious of myself, I discuss my gambling activities to my cycle of friends and I don't see anyone admonishing me, because I play responsible.
That means you are a responsible gambler, so no one admonishes you. But for those who often gamble, many lose self-control and are not responsible, especially for those who have won, they will continue gambling. Although some people can stop gambling after winning, the number is not many.

Besides that, you don't hide your gambling activities from your friends so that they can still monitor your gambling and see that you are still okay. If you start to lose control, they will immediately help you and ask you to leave the casino and do other things to reduce tension.
2144  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting Features on any Banking or Financial apps should be Removed on: September 11, 2023, 03:46:50 PM
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It is for sure that there will be customers of theirs that will be curious what that feature is all about. Despite of able to read the actuality of that feature, the curiosity of many will still be clicked. Since there is a customer support section for all of the banks, yes, a demand to remove that feature can be done.
His curiosity will grow even bigger when he hears that someone has succeeded in winning a bet through his banking application, and he will try to prove it. But if he loses the bet, he will still try because he will become more curious. This can make someone who has never gambled start gambling using the betting features in their banking application.

If there are customers who cannot control themselves from their curiosity, they will continue gambling because they already have the betting feature in their banking application. Indeed, this depends on the responsibilities of each customer.
Well, they know what they're doing and they can blame the bank itself but this is just on their mind that's trying to find a fault in their banks. Because that will become a reason for them to continue to gamble since the app has got that feature whether it redirects them or allows to bet directly.
Of course, the bank will avoid this mistake on the pretext that they don't know anything because a third party made the application. That is the easiest answer from the banking sector because they don't want to be blamed for making people gamble through the betting feature in the banking application. This needs to be conveyed to the banking sector so they can remove the betting feature and avoid any victims.

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If the gamblers doesn’t like the way of banking system which market the gambling because for the money.The best way to do correction will be report the same to the bank using the online support,if you are not ready to manage the terms in the bank.Not only the banking applications,most of the application in the internet will use the gambling and other spots bet for their advertisement.So the bank will remove that feature only to your account based on the request.If your friends also suffering the same problem,you can also help your friend by sharing to contact the banks for the solution and ask to manage the support  of the bank.
Consumers can also report it to the authorities, in this case, the police because this violates the regulations in their country if the country prohibits gambling. The authorities will investigate the case and ask the bank to remove this feature from its banking application. If this feature really bothers consumers and can later cause new problems, namely gambling addiction or reduced balance in their accounts, the bank must delete it. Usually, this story will be responded to by the authorities if it goes viral on the internet because it seems like the power of this virality can move the authorities to investigate it.
2145  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: September 11, 2023, 03:27:22 PM
One of the most unfortunate incidents that can happen in the life of anyone is to end of as a gambling addict because it won't only ruin the person's life but also negatively affect anyone that's living around the addict. It's one of the gravest addicts that can happen to anyone it's very hard for anyone who's addicted to gambling to be relieved of the addiction.
That being said, it's still very much possible but first of all the addicted person must accept his fate as an addict and completely make up his mind to be liberated from it. No one can talk a gambling addict out of from gambling until the said person is determined to get rid of the addict
That means it requires openness from the gambling addict to admit that they are addicted to gambling. Only he can make him stop gambling because even though someone asks him to stop, he doesn't want to stop. It was a shame because he had to sacrifice his life to become a gambling addict. Maybe he really has to accept the fact that he is addicted to gambling and ask for help from other people to accompany him in curing his gambling addiction. If he wants to ask other people for help, there will be someone who really wants to help him sincerely because he cares about that person's life.

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Yes, it is actually quite difficult to simply stop a bad habit that creates a positive reward in your head.

Usually it's better to swap the behavior with some other behavior that also gives you a positive reward, but is a not a bad behavior, say, going out for a run whenever you have the urge to gamble.

Over time, your brain will adapt and you will happily do the swapped behavior instead of the negative one. Starting is the most difficult part.
Perhaps he needs to try creating other activities or behaviors to avoid the urge to gamble. Perhaps he does something else that he never thought about before so that it can give him a new activity later. This will help him block thoughts about gambling, especially when he doesn't have time to open his smartphone to reply to chats from anyone. This needs to be done regularly so that our bodies get used to it, and these positive things will influence our brains. The more positive things we can do, the more we will leave behind things that can have a negative impact. And in the end, we can reduce our gambling time and even stop gambling.
2146  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Learning from those who have experience on: September 11, 2023, 02:45:02 PM
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Of course, whether a regular gambler or an addicted gambler wants to stop or reduce his gambling activities, it depends on the gambler's awareness and serious intentions. And if there is no serious intention they will continue gambling until they realize it after their life becomes poor, and this often happens and they stop and realize it after losing everything.
Gambling activities are not an opportunity to seek passive income, because winnings in gambling are inconsistent and if they cannot be controlled it will actually make the gambler suffer.
That's true because if the gambler has no serious awareness and intention, he will not be able to stop or reduce his gambling activities. Everything will return to the person who lives it, and even if someone forces him to stop gambling, he still can't stop, and he might gamble secretly. And even though his life has become poor, he still cannot give up gambling, he will return to gambling, but maybe his gambling will adjust to his finances. Gambling activities are only for fun and entertainment, so they cannot use it as a way to make money, let alone passive income. They should know that it will be difficult for them to win regularly because gambling is not designed to give wins to the gambler but to the casino.
2147  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How will you feel if it happens to you just like this? on: September 10, 2023, 10:18:02 PM
It is a painful experience I must say but there is nothing you can really do about it. First, what are you doing predicting game when you don't have the funding to play same? Is your plan just to give yourself the emotional trauma that you just narrated? To me it is pointless predicting games games when you have not sort out the finances needed to play same.

The problem most gamblers make is lack of or poor planning. If you plan your gambling very well, your cash flow should be the first consideration before even starting off with your predictions. I have noticed that you tend to loose more when you are not financially balanced because your emotion will be fully engaged in the gambling that you make mistakes out of desperation.

Like I said before, if you have not planned your finances, it is pointless venturing into gambling.
Indeed, they should plan their finances before entering the gambling world. But that doesn't happen to most people because they only think about experiencing gambling games or for those who are curious about gambling, they will just come to the casino, use the money in their wallet, and immediately play. But once they know what the situation is like in casinos, they should start to know that financial planning is necessary before gambling so they won't lose a lot of money. And it is true that when someone wins, he tends to be greedy and wants more wins.

This is what makes many people or gamblers experience a lot of losses. They don't know when to stop, especially when they have already won because if they continue gambling, they also don't have a big chance of winning again. So rather than taking a bigger risk, they should stop.
2148  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Socialtournaments-A way to stop gambling addiction on: September 10, 2023, 10:08:40 PM
This site is not intended to rehabilitate addicts directly. It does seem to work for gambling addicts who have independent therapy initiatives. Instead, their main goal is to get more exposure from the new machines they present. If they get satisfactory statistics on the number of players and rounds in a certain period, I think that the new machine will begin to be implemented by their partner casinos. This can attract new addicts.
This may be the solution for now,but we was not sure.How long the gambler will be satisfy with the alternative.Since they addicted to the gambling site,the gamblers easily back to the gambling.With the try,we can use for the recovery of the gamblers,but the complete recovery from the addiction or partial recovery based on the user.This can be used till the new one was created by the gamblers itself.As the doctor only can predict the medicine,the gambling addict or gambler can create the website,which entertain the gamblers as like the gambling site.
Perhaps the website is not for gamblers who are used to gambling in casinos but for people who just want to play in tournaments, especially gambling addicts who always return to the casino. But at least this site can be used as a solution for those afraid of losing a lot of money playing slot games. And they can also come back and play other slot games while trying to get into the top 10. However, it is very difficult to increase the ranking because the difference in numbers is too big for beginners. Apart from that, these slot games both require luck to win.
2149  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Typical scenario when you are losing on: September 10, 2023, 09:32:39 PM
The losses give you some emotional impact on the gambling,many people Get addicted to the gambling.My attitude being a gambler is just hold and dont take decision in the loss and emotion.The decision at the emotional is not good and correct decision.So save your emotion and don't spend on the unwanted things.Because our emotion had more value,if you get more anger issues.Then your health will be spoiled because of the emotion.Most of the crypto traders will be suffered a lot from the emotional misleading and loss of emotional control in the trading.The gamblers also need to control their emotion.
It all starts with the losses they get after they finish gambling. It makes their emotions rise, and they want to go back to the casino to gamble again. If a person can control his emotions, he certainly will not return to the casino for a certain time because he already knows he can lose and cannot complain about why he lost. He knows that losing is a risk of gambling; therefore, he will not use a lot of money to gamble because he understands the risks and does not want to lose too much. This is what we have to do when gambling so that we will not experience increased emotions, which can cause us to be reluctant to stop gambling and instead want to recover losses. And gamblers need to control their emotions, even if they win so that there is no desire to try to get another win.
2150  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lotteries and possibility vs. probability on: September 10, 2023, 04:51:31 PM
If we are to have a look on lottery vs gambling we could arrived at difference which are actually part of what makes it difficult to know which and which is not supposed for us to go for in other not to waste out efforts on application or money on gambling, i know what most of us spend in a day is more than we spend a on gambling or even lottery as long as we are using money to secure a slot for its application or money for gambling.
Lottery is a part of gambling, and it all uses money. Even though you say the price of lottery tickets is not expensive, if someone buys a lot of lottery tickets, he also has to use a lot of money. It's the same if you play slots, for example. You also use a certain amount of money to play slots without knowing when you will win.

But even though slot and lottery games are both based on luck, each of these gambling games has its fans. Slot and lottery games both require time to play. Perhaps the difference is that we only need to buy the lottery ticket and wait for the results to come out a few days later. Meanwhile, to play slots, we have to play them and wait for the results to come out.
2151  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: September 10, 2023, 04:28:54 PM
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Exactly, if you find other things that can gain your attention it will divide your time and your focus, it's good as an alternative to break some time with your gambling activities, and with self-will you might find yourself focusing and trying to divert everything just to avoid your gambling participation, it's always on your side to choose whatever direction you wanted to point your attention.

If you want to quit, there's always a way to begin with. Just add your will and it can happen along the way.
That's right because it will be a solution for those who want to find alternative activities besides gambling to reduce their time gambling. Those who try to find an activity they like don't need to think too complicated because they can start one small activity that can divert their attention from gambling. If they are getting used to the new activity, don't stop and keep doing it while doing other activities. Gradually, they will discover that they can actually reduce their gambling activities as long as they are willing to start.

There will always be a way to stop gambling. It just depends on whether they want to do it or not. And if they really want to reduce their gambling activities, they have to really try. They just have to keep trying until they can completely divert their attention from gambling.
2152  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Minimum Age to gamble on: September 10, 2023, 03:53:20 PM
In my opinion, it is not right to limit this issue to a certain age. Because this issue can vary from person to person. Instead of creating limits with fixed numbers, people can be subjected to certification. Even if a person is over the age of 18, he/she may not have the competence to gamble. I think every state in the world should educate their citizens about this issue and then subject them to a qualification test. Those who pass the test should be able to gamble regardless of their age. We get a license to drive a car. Gambling businesses get a license. Gamblers could also be licensed, either by government agencies or by private businesses.
I don't think it need a qualification test because anyone can gamble easily, especially nowadays, internet connections are available everywhere. Even teenagers can use their smartphones to visit casino sites easily without their parents knowing. Indeed, there must be age limits to gambling, especially online gambling, because lack of parental supervision can make teenagers start gambling. This requires supervision from their parents and needs to provide an understanding that gambling has risks that they may not be able to bear. But to do a qualifying test, it has to start from schools because teenagers can now visit any site they want, and there are no limits.
2153  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ask about prediction on: September 10, 2023, 03:37:12 PM
If you can analyze the match, you can share it on this forum, especially since it is a free prediction. If you can really do it, I'm sure you will be liked by the members here because many sports fans are waiting for your predictions. Hopefully, you can really show talent and good analytical skills so that we can also learn from you and place bets Grin

And don't be afraid if, for example, your prediction is wrong because it is a prediction, and no prediction is truly 100% accurate. Each of them can analyze according to their ability, but being able to get accurate results is very rare. So show your skills and let us see.
2154  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Learning from those who have experience on: September 10, 2023, 03:17:55 PM

Personally I have been able to get out of addiction only by my strong will to do so and this should be the main advice to you and anyone else who want to come out of it,you have to want it with all your body and spiritual desire and you can do it.Of course this takes a lot of time and I didn't come out of this immediately,I started playing smaller and smaller amounts every week,kept playing with a different currency like IDR which kept me playing longer and longer until I started to get bored of such long sessions but without losing any substantial amount of money.Now I still do play with IDR and I have a set weekly bankroll which I never overdo it or better I overdo it only very few times.This is how I got out of full addiction.

The strong minded gamblers only escape from the gambling addiction,others easily addicted with the gambling.This because of the huge attraction towards the gambling.Sometimes the gambler who want the passive income from their real income will use the gambling.Because now the economic condition was not easiest one.So all of us need of second income to manage today economic condition.The reason behind this was the product cost was increased a lot.The cost of pen was increased 20-30 percentage from the real value,like wise each product cost was increased and it was the main reason for the passive income from the gambling.
So it will depend on each gambler to determine when they will quit their gambling addiction. Other people cannot force them to quit or stop gambling because it is related to the consciousness of each gambler. And as long as the gambler still wants to gamble, he will continue to gamble without anyone stopping him. Some gamblers try to reduce their gambling activities by reducing their gambling time, and so far, they have been able to do this, and day by day, they are increasingly able to reduce it. So if each gambler already has a strong will to stop gambling, that's when they can try to do it, and they will be able to really reduce their gambling time or even stop gambling.
2155  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Crypto betting on: September 10, 2023, 02:54:00 PM
for me this is an important indicator. On this forum I always look for reviews from trusted people and their review or feedback can be trusted. From the review you can immediately understand whether it is an advertisement or whether it is really an honestly written review of the site.
That's right because the reviews given by members here are honest and trustworthy, so that we won't have any problems. But it will be different if we search from external sites that do not provide honest reviews but mislead many people. That's what makes us no longer need to look at other review sites that come from outside, especially from TrustPilot, because we also don't know whether the site really provides honest reviews or is paid by the site it promotes. We have to be careful when looking for casino sites, and don't be fooled by the many reviews that claim to be honest.
2156  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why gambling beginners must not joke with casino announcement on: September 10, 2023, 02:21:16 PM
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lucky if you are already in this forum, because most probably, you already know how to look for legit casinos or bookies to place bet with. a lot are getting screwed because they don't know the reputation of the site itself. however, if you have been for quite some time, the chance of learning these casinos is quite high.
just consider the fact that no scam site can launch their campaign here. or if not, the campaign manger himself will pause or stop the campaign if the site has ongoing issue with their player. that alone, will give you a hint that no scam site can continue to promote their site. unless, there are some members here who continue to promote an allegedly scam site.
Yes, we who are on this forum are lucky because we can find a trusted casino and be included in the list of our favorite casinos. This gives us the opportunity to avoid fraud from casinos that do not intend to make their casinos big. Perhaps those from scam casinos will look for other places where they can promote to get more players. But when people from out there can visit this forum, they will see that this casino is one of the scam casinos they should avoid.

And yes, scam casinos cannot promote their casinos on this forum because all the members here will always say that the casino is a scam casino, so new people who try to gamble at the scam casino can refuse to choose the casino. They will see that this forum already has many trusted casinos, so they will start looking for these casinos to find a casino that is suitable for them.

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but we cannot deny that there are still some people that wanted to be fooled by  new and scam casino while there are already so many existing here with good reputation and have served gamblers for many years.
I don't know how long they will continue letting to be victim when there are so many safer gambling site this forum can offer.
but there is no wrong trying new casino , but make sure to dig harder to know them , and also to to limit your deposit and gaming , so if ever you turned victim there will small regret on you.
Yes, we cannot deny it, but at least it can help reduce the number of people tricked into playing at new or scam casinos because we always warn them not to try gambling at these casinos. It's better for them to take a moment to look for the casino than try a new one they don't know about yet.

As long as they don't want to search on this forum and just simply register and deposit their money, they will probably be cheated more often than those who search for the casino by reading reviews from members here. Yes, it's not wrong to try a new casino, but we have to try it with small money or money that we can afford so that we won't regret it later.
2157  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gender in Gambling [differences between Women and Men in Gambling] on: September 10, 2023, 01:54:13 PM
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Indeed, with the easy access using online it will be tough to determine if women are already getting addicted and even the numbers of those women who are already involved with gambling, we can say that with emerging technology the numbers of those possible women that are involved to gambling got increase.

They just need to open the site and register, then it's good to go. Casino will not be strict as they are seeing potential patrons that will bring them decent profits.
The ease of online access is what makes more and more people start to get to know gambling. And that is also what makes women start to try to get to know and play gambling. Even though we don't know the exact number of women, the ease with which they can access this makes us feel that there is an increase in the number of gamblers.

And it is true that women can visit the casino site and register and even do it while resting in their rooms. The casino will also not know whether those who register are men or women. Casinos also do not prohibit women from gambling and consider everyone who comes to the casino, whether men or women, to be the same.
2158  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A typical weekend in sport betting-Why do gamblers still do sport bets? on: September 10, 2023, 01:35:47 PM
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To feel normal I guess. Gamblers will gamble, that's normal to them. They can't  take their eyes off the odds they see on matches in order to make money, they bet especially on the sport they follow the most.

There are just casino games as well that doesn't need learning at all. You don't even need to be a fan of the game to play it. And if there is no matches during the week, casino games will do to make the day normal.
And gamblers will still gamble whenever they want and not gamble on the weekend, especially if it is an ongoing event like the World Cup. And when the event is taking place, they may place bets more than usual because that is the time for them to have a greater chance of winning.

Yes, people will turn to casino games if there are no interesting games they can gamble on. But some choose to rest and recover or reduce yesterday's tension. But real gamblers will still gamble, especially if they already have their favorite casino. The presence or absence of matches from their favorite sport does not make them stop gambling for a while because there are many casino games they can play while waiting for the moment when betting on their favorite sport starts again.
2159  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A person who won 600k$ in lottery on: September 10, 2023, 01:11:59 PM
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The thought of spending money from gambling winnings just for something luxurious arises naturally which encourages this trait to appear accidentally and for me the money that can be obtained instantly in large amounts without using much effort will definitely run out of money.
For example, a gambler wins $15k only by betting a few times after that he will buy something or use it to go on a date with a woman to have fun and he only thinks about whether tomorrow or the next day he will get another big win so he will continue to spend his money.
It is very normal for other gamblers to think like that, but if a gambler gets a big win to build a business that provides daily profits, I think the gambler is lucky to have a high level of determination and commitment and that is very rare.
It would be better if a gambler could win a big win and use it to build a business that can provide even more profits. He doesn't need to try hard from gambling to win big wins anymore because he already has his own business that can make money. This gambler is indeed very lucky because he can use his winnings well to have a source of income from elsewhere. But if he uses his winning money just for fun, he can't get any benefit but will only lose his winning money quickly. He will not be able to get or have a source of income other than gambling, let alone have savings that can be useful for his future.
2160  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cockfighting? on: September 10, 2023, 12:43:14 PM
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Preservation on such ancient type of betting or gambling is just really that second of their intentions on which the main ones would really be speaking about the interest of a certain type of gambling on which they wont
really be mattering about its historical or where it do came from as long it is really that allowed and permitted on the place or country he do lives on then it would really be just fine.  Most people would really be in concern about animal cruelty on which it is really that something that it is really that they do mind but well these things cant really be completely stopped on which there would be places that would really be making these things to be that allowed as long they could be able to benefit in terms of taxes specially by the government then this what matter the most.

Im living in a place where cockfights do really happen and been having that their own gaming fowl arena but im not really that interested on making out bets of these roosters fighting on each other.
Just my personal thought and opinion that its never been entertaining for me on seeing some animals fighting for their lives for someones pleasures or into its bettors.
Yes, it will depend on where one lives. If permitted, they would still hold cockfights and vice versa. But there will indeed be resistance from the animal lover community who will reject cockfighting or other types of animal betting because they think it is cruel. But if cockfighting is allowed, perhaps the rejection will not mean anything, and cockfighting will continue. This might be income for the government, especially if the cockfighting is held in a place specifically for cockfighting so that the government who knows about it can ask for a contribution from that place as a tax, which will later be used for public facilities in the city.

Some people, like you, don't think cockfighting betting is interesting and will choose other bets that they think are more interesting. That's okay because everyone who gambles will choose what they like, and no one will force them to bet on one type of bet. That is freedom for everyone who will bet.
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