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2141  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 28, 2014, 06:59:26 PM
Just recording it for my own convenience.

http://rt.com/usa/175980-us-images-russia-ukraine/
http://rt.com/news/176120-fake-ukraine-images-defence/



I have a lock on the second image: Alleged Russian position is between Yasinovskiy and Novoivanovskij at  47°47'48.54"N  39° 2'45.26"E
The Ukrainian target is  47°54'48.85"N  39° 3'4.91"E
The distance is approximately 14km.
Note that the forestation in the US image is not there in GoogleEarth imagery, the rest of the geography, such as lakes are there.



Misplaced the target zone a little.

Here is a cap from GoogleEarth:
2142  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: July 28, 2014, 02:15:15 PM
Rocket blast caused ‘massive explosive decompression,’ downing MH17 – Kiev
http://rt.com/news/176136-mh17-crash-rocket-ukraine/

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Ukraine says analysis of the black box flight recorders from the downed Malaysia Airlines plane shows it was destroyed by shrapnel from a rocket blast. Dutch investigators, however, say they have not shared data with Kiev, calling the claim “premature.”

Kiev caught red-handed again!  Grin
2143  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 28, 2014, 01:02:17 PM
Just recording it for my own convenience.

http://rt.com/usa/175980-us-images-russia-ukraine/
http://rt.com/news/176120-fake-ukraine-images-defence/



I have a lock on the second image: Alleged Russian position is between Yasinovskiy and Novoivanovskij at  47°47'48.54"N  39° 2'45.26"E
The Ukrainian target is  47°54'48.85"N  39° 3'4.91"E
The distance is approximately 14km.
Note that the forestation in the US image is not there in GoogleEarth imagery, the rest of the geography, such as lakes are there.



The third image is near village Marynivka  47°54'13.75"N  38°50'47.54"E where US clams the bottom impact zone is (shooting from Novopetrivs'ke).

Now are they going to account for all impact zones in Lugansk, Donetsk, Slavjansk, Gorlovka?



And the slaughter continues:

Kiev shells Ukraine Orthodox Church compound in Gorlovka
http://rt.com/news/176160-ukraine-orthodox-church-shell/



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Ukrainian Orthodox Church facilities in Gorlovka, in the Donetsk region have come under artillery fire from Kiev forces. The attack caused casualties in nearby streets and damaged some church buildings, according to the Gorlovka diocesan administration.

More civilians murdered by Washington's stooges.
2144  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Arbitration court orders Russia to pay $50bn in Yukos case - convenient timing? on: July 28, 2014, 12:06:56 PM
Its a political decision, especially at the moment. I don't think Russia will even bother to reply to it.

Right, exactly at this time they order to pay $50 billion - while at the same time, the west is a war with Ukraine.

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Didn't know Russia was in EU...

Don't know that you can judge problem in foreign jurisdiction ?

As an American I may be misinformed, but European laws do not apply in Russia as far as I know.


...unless Russian Parliament ratifies some international agreements or treaties with EU, which is not the case here.
2145  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: July 28, 2014, 12:05:11 PM
About the ex-Soviet Republics, and because the reply before I was at my mobile, my source isn't any media, but by their diplomatic pressure, they keep saying we are too soft for Russia.
A country like mine, Portugal, doesn't have a single battle against Russia anywhere at all at its History, our gas comes from North Africa, so we logically wouldn't harass Russia for no reason. We always had great relation with it. We will do however what EU requests because we are part of it.

And that is the sad bit. Because that way your country loses a part of what defines it as a state: sovereignty.
It's even sadder for countries that were Russian friends throughout history, whom Russia helped on numerous occasions, and who are now forced to go not only against that friendship, but also against their sound economical interests. I am thinking about Bulgaria here.
2146  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Arbitration court orders Russia to pay $50bn in Yukos case - convenient timing? on: July 28, 2014, 11:36:02 AM
the Energy Charter Treaty
That is not ratified in Russian Federation.

Pretty much this. An article from 2006:

Why Russia refuses to ratify Energy Charter
http://en.ria.ru/analysis/20060407/45451331.html
2147  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: July 28, 2014, 11:31:39 AM
'Fake': Russian Defence Min rebuffs US sat image claims
http://rt.com/news/176120-fake-ukraine-images-defence/

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Russia’s Defense Ministry has stated that “fake” satellite images of alleged shelling of Ukraine from Russian territory were created by US counselors “with close links to Ukraine’s Security Council.”

The authenticity of the images is impossible to prove, the ministry added.
2148  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Arbitration court orders Russia to pay $50bn in Yukos case - convenient timing? on: July 28, 2014, 10:30:34 AM
That sum, together with the "legal fees" constitute 1/5th of Russia's total currency reserve. Payable to people who didn't have a cent to their names before the fall of USSR and subsequent robbing of Russia's natural resources.

This article is an interesting read with regard to the overall picture:
http://rt.com/op-edge/176068-eurasia-new-great-game-war/
2149  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is the West gearing up to invade Russia once again? on: July 28, 2014, 10:26:38 AM
Conversation: How Vladimir Putin Rose, and Could Fall, in Russia
http://www.stratfor.com/video/conversation-how-vladimir-putin-rose-and-could-fall-russia#axzz38QRY16Ab

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David Judson: Hello, I'm David Judson, editor-in-chief of Stratfor. Today, joining me is George Friedman, founder and chairman of Stratfor. I want to talk about what's kind of obvious, which is Russia in the broadest sense. But what I want to specifically talk about today, George, this week you in your column raised the yet-open question: Can Putin survive? That question remains open, but I kind of wanted to back up to the history of analysis we've done looking at Russia and its changing power relationships with not only itself internally, but what the West…take us back to 1998, when we raised basically the question: Can Boris Yeltsin survive?

George Friedman: Well, I mean, 1998 came after a major financial crisis in Russia and the realization that Russia -- as it was constituted in 1991, '92 -- didn't work, and that privatization had led to the growth of massive oligarchies, and that Russia was really being humiliated in foreign policy and how could Yeltsin survive? And it became increasingly clear that with all the problems Russia was having, the kind of regime that Yeltsin had couldn't survive and that it wouldn't.
2150  Other / Politics & Society / Arbitration court orders Russia to pay $50bn in Yukos case - convenient timing? on: July 28, 2014, 09:12:33 AM
Arbitration court orders Russia to pay $50bn in Yukos case
http://rt.com/business/176064-yukos-russia-50bn-damages/

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The International Arbitration Court in the Netherlands has ended a decade long case brought by shareholders in the defunct Yukos oil company, and ordered Russia to pay about $50 billion in damages.

The official ruling published on Monday said the Russian government violated the EU Energy Charter when it redistributed Yukos’ assets after bankruptcy in 2003.

Didn't know Russia was in EU...

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The Hague’s Permanent Court of Arbitration ordered Russia to compensate the plaintiffs with $50 billion – less than half the initial $114 billion demanded by the former shareholders. Russia has also been ordered to pay about $65 billion in legal costs.The claim was lodged by Gibraltar-based Group Menatep Limited (GML) - the company used by Russia’s once richest man Mikhail Khodorkovsky to manage Yukos.

In other word, the whole sum. Looks like Khodorkovskij was released from prison prematurely.

A private company fails, and it turns out that the taxpayers should cough up for the failure. It's so like USA...

Also, no surprise there:

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“This is the biggest arbitration award in history,” as ITAR-TASS quotes Emmanuel Gilyard, a lawyer at the Shearman Sterling bureau, who underlined that the case became a ‘mega-arbitration’.

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In 2003 Russian authorities accused the management of the country’s largest oil company at the time of corruption. A number of senior figures in the company were subsequently found guilty of fraud and tax evasion and were sentenced to jail. As a result, Yukos went bankrupt and its assets were absorbed by the state oil company Rosneft. Soon after the bankruptcy the company’s shareholders applied to The Hague International Arbitration Court, claiming $100 billion in compensation.

Isn't the timing just so convenient. Like the French BNP bank ruling?

And a couple of readers' comments:

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Sean Kavanagh 28.07.2014 09:05

So when is The Netherlands going to be sued for their army looking the other way while thousands of innocent people were murdered in the former Yugoslavia. That report was released two weeks ago and nobody seems to have noticed it. How very strange indeed!

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Aleksey 28.07.2014 09:05

Everyone already knows what happened to Yukos; you are late to the game. Putin dismantled that criminal organization, and nationalized the assets. Putin is a legend just for what he did to Khadorkovsky.

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ArtypNk 28.07.2014 09:05

That's impartial... "Pay this here fraud because he lost his company after he was jailed". Lol, this would be about the same as american taxpayers paying Bernard Madoff for some dumb reason.

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Emmett 28.07.2014 09:51

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This is clearly a political decision. And still some Russian officials call the American slave known as the EU partners!!

Clearly political and with the 65 billion dollar in legal fees. The US and EU/NATO are bankrupt and are "legally" robbing nations where they can't simply go in and loot assets by force. This is enough loot for US and EU/NATO to split with each other and support their crumbling economies.
Banks in EU are failing and likely to start a domino effect. Western banks and economies are in need of a cash infusion which US and EU don't have.

This one is spot on, even if a bit misleading wrt Yeltsin. It was Berezovskij who was running Yelstin, while proxying for Washington:

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Vincent 28.07.2014 09:08

First Khodorkovsky robs Russia by making Yeltsin drunk and then he claims even more. Typical mobster mafia tactics. And the EU courts go along with that. EU is proving to be a big scam run by the Mafia.

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iStateOfMind3 28.07.2014 09:20

What in the....

HSBC laundered blood soaked drug money for south american cartels and paid a $1bn fine.
Russia took back state assets that landed in the hands of people that didn't own a penny is some cases before Russian collapsed.
They were so obviously working as front men for a gargantuan criminal enterprise.
I mean didn't one of those guy make copper bracelets to earn a living before the collapse? The rest were not much better off either.
2151  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: July 28, 2014, 07:51:16 AM
Heavy fighting in E. Ukraine prevents experts from visiting MH17 crash site
http://rt.com/news/175976-ukraine-mh17-malaysia-fighting/

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International experts have been unable to visit the crash site of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, due to heavy fighting in the Donetsk area. Kiev and anti-government forces are blaming each other for hampering the investigation.

“We heard indications there's fighting going on,” said Alexander Hug, deputy head for the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) monitoring mission in Ukraine.

“The situation on the ground appears to be unsafe...we therefore decided to deploy tomorrow morning,” he added.

Hug expressed concerns that the fighting near the village of Grabovo in Ukraine’s Donetsk region will “most likely affect crash site.”

Finally:

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Russia assembles MH17 investigation team

Meanwhile, Moscow has put together a team of experts to take part in the international investigation. Oleg Storchevoy, desputy head of Russia's federal air traffic agency Rosaviation, has been put in charge of the group.

According to Storchevoy, the main task of the international experts will be “finding the true reasons which led to this tragedy,” because “the whole world, including Russia, is interested in objective investigation.”



Lavrov: Hopeful MH17 crash probe will respect ‘presumption of innocence’
http://rt.com/news/176040-lavrov-russia-ukraine-plane/

Ha, from the first minute, the West and their lapdog media were acting under the principal "guilty even if proven innocent". Witch hunts during the dark age were done under the same guidelines.



'Not terrorists': Hysteria over MH17 fails to take account of both law and facts
http://rt.com/op-edge/175496-hysteria-mh17-ukraine-facts-terrorists/

This an Op-Edge with Research Associate at the INSYTE Group, Dr. Roslyn Fuller. It take up some very poignant legal implications of a possible scenario development:

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The first legal question is whether or not accidentally shooting down a passenger plane when you meant to shoot down a fighter jet could be classified as an act of terrorism. In my opinion, the answer is a resounding ‘no.’

Crack open any textbook on criminal law and you’ll find that intent forms a pretty basic part of most crimes. There are some things you simply cannot do by accident and being a terrorist is one of them.

Also:

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Who constructed this narrative of a Putin-led Russia somehow in favor of terrorists complete with ready-made petition? Concerned citizens appalled by some unspecified Russian behavior?

Or Alex Konanykhin, former Russian oligarch who has been wanted in Russia since Yeltsin’s days to face charges relating to embezzlement and financial fraud and whose American business ventures include WikiExperts.us (which accepted money to write Wikipedia entries for businesses until it was banned), and Transparent Business (which allows employers to monitor their employees’ computer activity in real time), and who was the Republican National Committee’s choice for New York Businessman of the Year in 2004?

...

Despite originating from a questionable source, Konanykhin’s work has apparently prepared the “Russia sponsors terrorism” line, in much the same way as the Bene Gesserit prepared the hapless residents of Dune to accept the Kwisatz Haderach in Frank Herbert’s famous dystopian novels. First invent the narrative, then press the facts into it. It might have been OK for science-fiction, but law isn’t supposed to work this way.

There are three questions to be answered in regards to MH17: one factual and two legal. The factual question is whether or not the Donetsk rebels shot down MH17 by accident. We do not know the answer to this question at the time of writing, but hopefully this will be revealed. The rest of this article examines how we would answering the two legal questions under the assumption that the factual question has been answered and the Donetsk rebels did indeed shoot down MH17 under the mistaken belief that it was a fighter jet. It is obviously a large assumption, but considering that accusations of sponsoring terrorism are now being bandied about on academic blogs, I think it is well worth exploring.
2152  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 28, 2014, 07:21:05 AM
US allegations of Russia firing at Ukraine are ‘baseless’ – Russian MP
http://rt.com/news/175988-us-russia-border-fire/

URGENT: UPDATED – Warning of Impending Terrorist Acts by the Kiev Junta, July 26, 2014
http://slavyangrad.org/2014/07/27/urgent-warning-of-impending-terrorist-acts-by-the-kiev-junta-july-26-2014/

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In particular, this concerns the residents of Pavlograd, in the Dnepropetrovsk region! Please read this message and pass it on to everyone!

A terrifying provocation is being prepared in the city of Pavlograd, in the Dnepropetrovsk region. This magnitude of this provocation in terms of casualties will many times over exceed the number of victims of the crash of the Malaysian Boeing!

Kolomoiskiy and the Kiev Junta have prepared groups of Russian-speaking militants who, under the guise of militiamen, will organize a “night of long knives” in Pavlograd. Hundreds of peaceful civilians will die! This will be staged as “payback” for those who died in the Lugansk and the Donetsk Republics.



http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-army-operation-680/
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Monday, July 28
08:09 GMT:

Some 1,129 people have been killed and nearly 3,500 wounded in the Kiev’s operation in eastern Ukraine, according to UN estimates.



Did Kiev use white phosphorous in civilian areas? Expert comments on latest video
http://rt.com/op-edge/175880-ukraine-white-phosphorous-shelling/

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Footage presented by self-defense forces in eastern Ukraine as alleged proof of Kiev's use of white phosphorous bombs shows many characteristics of the forbidden explosive, former British army officer Charles Shoebridge told RT.
2153  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: July 28, 2014, 05:46:15 AM
The western media is generally free to publish whatever they want. They will often restrain themselves to protect their reputation but legally can publish what they wish. The  Russian media in the other hand is controlled by the government and is not free to publish what they want.

And you base that assumption on what? How much Russia media to you read or are you just repeating what the Western mass media told you? Have you read numerous articles critical of the government and the policies? Are you still confusing USSR with Russia?

Is the free Western media free to ignore ethnic cleansing and slaughter in Ukraine that has been going on for 3 months and far surpassed the tragedy seen in Gaza? Is it free to ignore Russia being bombarded from Ukraine? Will it suddenly find itself even more free to report once Russia starts to retaliate, just like free Western media freely ignored killings of Serbs in Yugoslavia, but once retaliations started the Western media befreed itself from its freedom and started to report about "bad unprovoked Serbs"?
The only freedom I see in the Western media so far (with the possible exceptions of Associated Press and the Guardian), is freedom to concoct free-flying tales, not backs by any evidence, completely freely following the call of Washington, understanding that if they don't do it freely, then other options exist.
2154  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Opinion on the US on: July 28, 2014, 05:41:30 AM
Missing the option of "global bully", so voted for money injection.
2155  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is the West gearing up to invade Russia once again? on: July 27, 2014, 08:05:10 PM
I've noticed this worrying post in the Donetsk thread. It's more on topic here:

DOES RUSSIA (AND HUMANITY) HAVE A FUTURE?
The Russian government and Europe need to look beyond Washington’s propaganda, because the reality is much worst

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The Russian government has finally realized that it has no Western “partners,” and is complaining bitterly about the propagandistic lies and disinformation issued without any evidence whatsoever against the Russian government by Washington, its European vassals, and presstitute media.

Perhaps the Russian government thought that only Iraq, Libya, Syria, China, and Edward Snowden would be subjected to Washington’s lies and demonization.

It was obvious enough that Russia would be next.


The Russian government and Europe need to look beyond Washington’s propaganda, because the reality is much worst.

NATO commander General Breedlove and Senate bill 2277 clearly indicate that Washington is organizing itself and Europe for war against Russia (see my previously posted column).

Europe is reluctant to agree with Washington to put Ukraine in NATO. Europeans understand that if Washington or its stooges in Kiev cause a war with Russia Europe will be the first casualty. Washington finds its vassals’ noncompliance tiresome. Remember Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland’s “fuck the EU.” And that is just what Washington is about to do.

More...http://www.infowars.com/does-russia-and-humanity-have-a-future/
Written by Paul Craig Roberts, former Reagan official who has great insight on foreign, domestic and economic outlooks imo.
2156  Bitcoin / Press / [2014-07-27] RT: Trojan virus secretly uses Tor network to hide bitcoin extortio on: July 27, 2014, 07:40:13 PM
Trojan virus secretly uses Tor network to hide bitcoin extortionist
http://rt.com/news/175912-critroni-ransomware-tor-network/

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An unusual ransomware Trojan, discovered by cybersecurity experts last month, is the first of its kind to secretly use a Tor anonymizing network to hide its communication with a command-and-control server.
2157  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 27, 2014, 07:27:03 PM
DOES RUSSIA (AND HUMANITY) HAVE A FUTURE?
The Russian government and Europe need to look beyond Washington’s propaganda, because the reality is much worst

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The Russian government has finally realized that it has no Western “partners,” and is complaining bitterly about the propagandistic lies and disinformation issued without any evidence whatsoever against the Russian government by Washington, its European vassals, and presstitute media.

Perhaps the Russian government thought that only Iraq, Libya, Syria, China, and Edward Snowden would be subjected to Washington’s lies and demonization.

It was obvious enough that Russia would be next.


The Russian government and Europe need to look beyond Washington’s propaganda, because the reality is much worst.

NATO commander General Breedlove and Senate bill 2277 clearly indicate that Washington is organizing itself and Europe for war against Russia (see my previously posted column).

Europe is reluctant to agree with Washington to put Ukraine in NATO. Europeans understand that if Washington or its stooges in Kiev cause a war with Russia Europe will be the first casualty. Washington finds its vassals’ noncompliance tiresome. Remember Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland’s “fuck the EU.” And that is just what Washington is about to do.

More...http://www.infowars.com/does-russia-and-humanity-have-a-future/
Written by Paul Craig Roberts, former Reagan official who has great insight on foreign, domestic and economic outlooks imo.

This is an alarming read, yet it rhymes well with the feeling that I had already in April about the looming invasion of Russia:
http://stanislavs.org/is-the-west-gearing-up-to-invade-russia-once-again/

Today, Gorlovka shelled by Ukrainian military. City park.







Another day in the hard work of ethnic cleansing.

Dozens, including 2 children, die as Kiev troops shell Gorlovka in E.Ukraine (VIDEO)
http://rt.com/news/175956-gorlovka-donetsk-grad-civilians/

Follow: Kiev's bloody eastern Ukraine campaign LIVE UPDATES
http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-army-operation-680/
2158  Other / Politics & Society / Re: White House: Republicans May Push to Impeach Obama If They Get the Chance on: July 26, 2014, 08:29:23 PM
hope the next President will be a woman

You would want to revise your wish when Hillary is selected as the US President.
2159  Other / Politics & Society / Re: grahamwphillips.com on: July 26, 2014, 08:09:38 PM
RT contributor's ordeal in Ukraine: Arrested, blindfolded, no guarantee of living
http://rt.com/news/175828-phillips-arrest-ukraine-details/

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British journalist Graham Phillips tells RT of how his life has been thrown into disarray by his ordeal in Ukraine, speaking of recent cyberattacks and electronic account hackings, and his three days being held by the security services.

“I was put in a room next to an artillery position that they were firing heavily from, that was being fired on,” Phillips told RT, adding that his bulletproof vest had been seized despite the violence.

He said that he was blindfolded, given no guarantee that he was going to live, and called a terrorist.

“A soldier said that if he couldn’t confirm my details then he couldn’t guarantee that I was going to live. I was blindfolded,” Phillips said.
2160  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: July 26, 2014, 08:03:07 PM
‘She might be still alive!’ Parents of MH17 victim arrive at crash site in Ukraine
http://rt.com/news/175808-malaysia-plane-parent-daughter/

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The parents of 25-year-old Fatima, who was among the passengers on board the tragic Malaysian plane, don’t want to believe their daughter is dead. They have arrived at the crash site in eastern Ukraine, and are determined to look for her.

George and Angela Dyczynski from Perth, Australia, laid flowers at the site of the crashed Malaysian Airplane jet near the village of Grabovo for their daughter, Fatima Dyczynski, on Saturday. They were the first relatives of the plane victims to arrive at the site of the tragedy, according to NBC's Kier Simmons.

...

"Nobody speaks about survivors and there must be a reason for it. There is some evidence there are survivors still."

Poor people. I know first-hand this denial of a loss in grief.
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