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2141  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: crypto long term dijamin sukses on: June 25, 2023, 11:23:08 PM
Tapi saya untuk long term kemungkinan besar lebih memilih coin lain di bandingkan doge coin seperti bnb atau eth. Untuk saat ini kemungkinan besar banyak di antara kita yang lebih memilih menahan eth dalam tingkat persentase yang lebih besar dalam portofolio kita. Doge kemungkinan besar mungkin hanya membelinya dalam jumlah kecil karena hype doge akan pumd besar bila elon musk men tweet tentang doge kalau tidak akan sulit beranjak naik secara signifikan seperti yang telah kita lihat di tahun tahun sebelumnya.
Seperti yang saya jelaskan di atas, memang lebih baik tidak hold Doge lama-lama. Meskipun Doge masih di urutan top 10 dan masih cukup lumayan trendnya, tidak ada jaminan akan ikut naik signifikan juga ketika altcoin season nanti. Ketika orang-orang lebih fokus ke altcoin yang punya fundamental kuat, bisa saja koin-koin meme kehilangan demandnya. Jika ini terjadi, harga Doge sudah pasti akan cenderung turun daripada naik mengikuti koin top lainnya.

Sudah pasti kebanyakan orang memilih ETH untuk long term holding. ETH belum ada saingannya, chartnya saja identik dengan chart up-down harga BTC. Selain itu, ETH jelas masih merupakan koin favorit nomer 2 setelah BTC. Setelah BTC pump, kemungkinan terbesar ETH akan ikut pump mengikuti trend harga BTC. Apalagi ETH juga memang punya fundamental yang kuat dan berperan vital untuk industri crypto. Makanya orang-orang lebih memprioritaskan ETH untuk.


sangat tepat yang anda katakan. Sebagaimana kita adalah trader dengan uang yang pas pasan tentu saja akan memilih coin yang memiliki tingkat pengembalian yang lebih cepat di saat market sedang bullish dan eth adalah pilihan yang baik karena harganya mengikuti reli harga btc dimana saat btc naik eth pun naik. Namun selain itu saya juga pandangan yang lain terhadap coin lain yang mungkin lebih efesien untuk di jangkau dengan modal yang kecil seperti hbar karena hbar adalah project yang memiliki fundamental yang kuat menurut saya.

Untuk coin meme saya mungkin tidak akan memasukkan kedalam portofolio saya untuk jangka lama karena investasi jangka lama tentu punya harapan besar bagi kita untuk meraih banyak keuntungan dan hanya coin coin yang memiliki produk yang sudah berjalan yang dapat menguatkan saya untuk menahannya lebih lama.
2142  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga dan Potensi Altcoin on: June 25, 2023, 11:16:32 PM
Ingat, anda harus memiliki teori investasi mengapa APTOS akan bertahan lama, anda harus bisa mengelola risiko investasi sebagai bagian dari portofolio Anda secara keseluruhan.

Untuk sekarang si ane belum ada pandangan yang jelas untuk proyek ini. Cuma agak tertarik saja dan menyisikan sedikit uang gaji buat nabung di crypto. Tapi kayaknya tidak berlanjut deh karena di Indodax ternyata belum ada.  Mau main BTC/ETH terlalu tinggi harganya kalo buat di cicil nabung tiap bulan. Mungkin nabung APTOS sementara ane cukupkan. Mulai bulan depan akan cari alt lain, mungkin akan BNB atau XRP. Tapi tertarik juga dengan Monero...

Tapi bingung juga ya dengan banyaknya token alt. berhubung ane paling bisa nabung 300-500k/mo, bingung mau fokus 1 token atau di sebar di beberapa token. Ada rekomdasi gan?
Lakukan riset terlebih dahulu gan dan pilih satu atau 2 coin yang akan ada tahan dalam jangka panjang yang mana anda berencana melakukan pembelian setiap gajian dan itu seperti dca teman. Anda dapat memilih coin yang memiliki fundamental yang kuat baik itu xrp atau bnb. Saya pikir jika anda kuat 500 k perweek itu cukup bagus teman anda dapat memilih coin yang lebih murah karena akan mendapatkan banyak coin. Saya untuk saat ini hanya menahan hbar dan saya yakin harganya akan naik ketika market dalam kondisi bullish saya pikir hbar akan naik setidaknya mencapai $0.1. Untuk saat ini saya membelinya secara bertahap setiap minggu dan saya harap hbar adalah pilihan yang tepat yang saya buat.
2143  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: crypto long term dijamin sukses on: June 23, 2023, 11:59:20 PM
Doge coin memiliki komunitas yang cukup besar dan hampir dapat dikatakan mereka adalah raja coin meme untuk saat ini. Tidak ada yang dapat mematahkan tren mereka apalagi hype besar mereka selalu ada ketika elon musk meng tweet tentang doge di twitter nya. Saya pikir elon musk memiliki banyak coin doge yang membuatnya selalu memberikan kejutan untuk para holder doge lewat tweetnya di twitter. Tapi saya sendiri relatif tidak pernah menahan lama coin doge dalam wallet saya karena takut harganya turun ke dasar karena supply yang cukup besar. Untuk trading jangka pendek kayaknya sih cukup bagus coin doge karena harganya sudah turun cukup signifikan dari harga tertingginya .
Jika melihat ranknya di CMC, Dogecoin jelas merupakan kingnya meme coins saat ini. Belum ada koin meme lain yang bisa melampaui apa yang dicapai Dogecoin karena mereka memang mendapat support yang luar biasa dari Elon Musk. Dulu Shiba Inu sempat digadang-gadang berpotensi melampaui Dogecoin, tapi pada akhirnya malah merosot turun. Terkait apakah Elon Musk punya banyak Dogecoin atau tidak, kita tidak dapat memastikan. Yang jelas Elon Musk masih menjadi faktor utama penggerak naiknya harga Dogecoin.

Agan melakukan hal yang tepat, sebaiknya memang tidak hold lama-lama. Walaupun Dogecoin masuk top 10 CMC, Dogecoin tetaplah koin meme yang tidak punya fundamental kuat. Dogecoin bisa kehilangan nilainya kapan pun, terutama jika Elon Musk tiba-tiba membuat statement negatif terkait koin Doge. Meskipun Elon Musk pro Dogecoin sejauh ini, kita tidak tau apa rencananya di masa depan.


Yang ada katakan benar. Tapi saya untuk long term kemungkinan besar lebih memilih coin lain di bandingkan doge coin seperti bnb atau eth. Untuk saat ini kemungkinan besar banyak di antara kita yang lebih memilih menahan eth dalam tingkat persentase yang lebih besar dalam portofolio kita. Doge kemungkinan besar mungkin hanya membelinya dalam jumlah kecil karena hype doge akan pumd besar bila elon musk men tweet tentang doge kalau tidak akan sulit beranjak naik secara signifikan seperti yang telah kita lihat di tahun tahun sebelumnya.
2144  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: June 23, 2023, 11:54:15 PM

It is no longer a secret that the main reason why so many European players are going to the Saudi Arabian League is because of the fact that that it offers huge financial rewards and also guarantees that the players will fall back to their acquired wealth whenever they retire from football.
The Saudi clubs aren't majorly concerned about the financial weight that these deals seems to possess, they just want to get this European players signed so their influence can make the league more global and competitive

It was never a secret and everyone knows the mains reason for most of the players when joining the Arabian team at the end of their career is the better money they can earn on these teams even the most famous players like Raul from Real Madrid and Xavi from Barcelona played in the Arabian teams. However, these two players both joined the Qatari teams but the Saudi teams can even have a better situation financially.
Some of them, of course, want to end their career to get a bigger salary at an increasingly old age like benzema where he is already 35 years old and most likely he will be able to play for the next 3 seasons before choosing to retire. And there are also other things like Kante where he rarely gets minutes to play because the coach prefers other players while at Chelsea and that is also a strong reference if they want to play full time by joining a Saudi Arabian club and plus a higher salary.

Teams from Saudi Arabia have considerable strength in terms of their finances so they are the best league at the Asian level right now because there are many star players playing there.
2145  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 23, 2023, 11:47:15 PM
İlkay Gündoğan is 32 years old, surely he can play for 1-2 seasons more. A player still can perform with his best until 35 years old, so no problem with his current age. The problem is how he can adapt with Barcelona game style. But I'm very sure that it will be easy for him to adapt with Barcelona game style since Guardiola and Xavi tactics aren't so much different. I also believe that Gündoğan probably give positive impacts on Barcelona. We all know how good he played in Man City last season, he also will do the same in bBarcelona for the next season. I just hope he won't experience an injury problem.

Yes, of course Gundogan can still play until the age of 35 and even more and judging by his character he is a pretty strong player and rarely gets injured. I think barcelona was lucky enough to get Gundogan on a free agent status after his contract ended with manchester city. With sufficient quality, I think Gundogan will be able to bring big changes to Barcelona next season.

For real madrid they haven't found the right replacement for their front line. Because I doubt that Joselu can make a big contribution like Benzema did last season. Will Real Madrid continue to approach Mbappe to strengthen their front line?
2146  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 23, 2023, 11:39:33 PM
I read that Mane will probably play in the Saudi Professional League whether that's true or not, but I personally feel that Mane will still stay at Bayern Munich.
I can't ascertain why the Saudi Football League enjoys bringing in high-profile players each season with the promise of large financial rewards.
Up to 11 players from the premier league have recently joined their league. Bernardo Silva, Thomas Partey, Kyle Walker, Kalidou Koulibaly, Edouard Mendy, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, Callum Hudson-Odoi, Hakim Ziyech, Ruben Neves, and Kante are just a few of the players who have already joined. Before the transfer window closes, I think they will still make more moves.
Source link: https://www.google.com/amp/s/talksport.com/football/1474473/premier-league-transfer-news-saudi-arabia-links-rumours-wages-offers/amp/
That's because the team from Saudi Arabia was able to provide a bigger salary than they received in their previous team. I think one more thing is that they want to make the Saudi Arabian league more widely known by bringing in many well-known players from the EPL. From last winter's transfer window, teams from the Saudi Arabian league were very aggressive in making approaches with star players from the European league, so it wouldn't be surprising for us if they would do even more in this season transfer window.

And also this is a big advantage for the EPL team where they sell their players at high price to the Saudi Arabian league team. But some of them certainly still want to stay in the European league and will refuse offers coming from the Saudi Arabian league team.
2147  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: crypto long term dijamin sukses on: June 22, 2023, 11:55:23 PM
sejatinya ada elon atau tidak, Doge sebelumnya sudah membuktikan eksistensinya saat market kripto mengalami periode bearish dan bullish beberapa kali. Doge sudah dikenal oleh orang banyak sebelum elon mengemukakan bahwa dirinya adalah supporter Doge. Kehadiran Elon hanya mengangkat harga, sebelum itu, Doge berhasil bertahan karena komunitas. Jadi, tidak diragukan sih kalau misalkan kita menganggap Doge sudah kuat, karena kehadirannya juga sudah dikenal sejak lama. IMO
Dogecoin (Do Only Good Everyday)[1] salah satu memecoin memiliki kekuatan sendiri sejak hadir di ruang kripto atau sejak diperkenalkan pada 6 Desember 2013.
Banyak sumber menjelaskan poin yang sama seperti yang mas katakan bahwa hadirnya Elon Musk membawa dampak positif yang membuat harga Dogecoin meningkat secara signifikan.
Para komunitas besar Dogecoin yang sudah terbentuk sebelum Elon Musk datang menyambut baik ketika bos besar yang kini menjabat sebagai CEO Twitter memproklamirkan diri sebagai supporter Dogecoin.

[1]. https://dogecoin.com/dogepedia/articles/what-is-dogecoin/
Doge coin memiliki komunitas yang cukup besar dan hampir dapat dikatakan mereka adalah raja coin meme untuk saat ini. Tidak ada yang dapat mematahkan tren mereka apalagi hype besar mereka selalu ada ketika elon musk meng tweet tentang doge di twitter nya. Saya pikir elon musk memiliki banyak coin doge yang membuatnya selalu memberikan kejutan untuk para holder doge lewat tweetnya di twitter. Tapi saya sendiri relatif tidak pernah menahan lama coin doge dalam wallet saya karena takut harganya turun ke dasar karena supply yang cukup besar. Untuk trading jangka pendek kayaknya sih cukup bagus coin doge karena harganya sudah turun cukup signifikan dari harga tertingginya .
2148  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 22, 2023, 11:48:12 PM
I tend to agree with you on this point. Napoli played fantastically in the beginning then dropped a little and continued fluctuating until the end of the season. This all happened while having their best players and sometimes after losing them to injury. I think the last point show that even with the full squad, Napoli might lose its title.
Next season I see that Inter Milan is a strong candidate to win the Scudetto because their squad has seen good perfection this season.  Maybe Lukaku will return to play from the start of the season next season because last season he was hit by an injury which prevented him from playing fully in every game.  Martinez and Lukaku are the stickers that are very feared in the next season. Dzeko is gone and he has made a big contribution to Inter this season.

Napoli are not too strong in the next season if Napoli are left by their core players who go to other clubs in this transfer window. I think they are a surprise team and it will be difficult to defend the title next season.
2149  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 22, 2023, 11:27:32 PM
Liverpool is one the top clubs and it is their duty to be good, since they are one of the top clubs the up and coming ones are looking up to, they played well in the just concluded season, atleast, ending the session in the fifth position is not an easy feet, but yet they did it, though i can not hide the fact that I expected better from them, but then like you said, a bad season always happens in one way or the other, even to top clubs, because that is all that there is about sports, I bet everyone would agree with me that the game would become super boring if it becomes just one club winning in every season.
I think Liverpool made quite a significant comeback in the season that has finished because they struggled to reach 5th place but finally kloop was able to do it. Even though some think that Liverpool have not been good enough last season, I admit that they have tried their best. Indeed, Liverpool must start a new era after the departure of several of their star players so they need time to find a good strategy that can be understood by every player. Salah, Gakpo and Nunez would have been an underrated trio last season but I think they will be highly reckoned for next season.

Apart from failing to return to the Champions League this season, of course, the weakness in team depth will be corrected by kloop in this season's transfer window. Firmino has also left I think Liverpool need a better stock of forwards for next season.
2150  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 22, 2023, 11:13:40 PM
That's not about Bellingham or Haaland the last season that's about the Borussia Dortmund business they have, Dortmund is a team that grows young talents and then they sell these players to earn money. I think this if they change their plan any time soon.

They will not change their plans for the upcoming season. Dortmund will still be looking to make huge profits in each transfer window so it would be no surprise for them not to sell their star player. Their strength is often unstable in every season because even this season some of their important players have left and that is something that strengthens us if Dortmund will have difficulty winning the title next season.

But I am impressed with Dortmund talent scouts because they are very professional in bringing in talented players so they only need to polish their quality in 1 or 2 seasons until they become star players who are the target of big European clubs.
2151  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: June 22, 2023, 11:07:13 PM
I too agree. Generally, Chelsea is good and has a whole lot of experienced and capable players that are able to score goals and bag wins for the club. Perhaps they just aren’t organized when playing or there may be some other things that went wrong. Either way, there is some good hope about their future and overall performance next season. Mauricio Pochettino could have a good impact on the squad. Although that remains to be seen, there is nothing but hope about the possibility of the club playing and performing much better than they did in the just concluded season.
One thing is certain, change is needed. Would Pochettino be that much needed change?
I think Chelsea will try hard to improve next season because if they fail to do so it will surprise us quite a bit because they have quite a good depth of team for next season. Indeed, Chelsea absence in the champions league next season is really a pity, but that's what happened. I think the Chelsea management will continue to make every effort to bring more efficient changes into their progress next season.

So we will skip this discussion about Chelsea as they are not on the list of teams that will compete in the champions league next season. We are more interested in seeing Manchester United next season because they have progressed very well under the coach of Erik ten Hag after they managed to qualify for the Champions League again this season, of course it is an extraordinary thing that has been done by Erik Ten Hag.
2152  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: June 21, 2023, 11:51:15 PM

This Barcelona we see is pretty much far from Barcelona in the last years because they don't have any financial stability and they can't hire the players they really need. Instead, Barcelona can only old players like Gudogan for their team, this way they can pay less money and this Barcelona cannot have much hope even for the champions league because simply they don't have enough money to invest in it like other teams do in Manchester City and Real Madrid.

Ilkay Gündoga is a good investment even tbough he is old, better than Messi they were trying to push back to the club that will end up been sold because of their financial status. Still better than nothing bringing anything at all, they already have good young players in the club to help struggle for the leagues they all qualified for, what they need now is to strike a balance between the squad that will be starting and the ones that will be bench, it's very necessary to help ease pressure in matches and I hope Real Madrid doesn't end up buying Haaland though, it will be the end for Barcelona in Spain but I have doubt if Manchester City are ready for that discussion.
Not too old, Gundogan 32 years old and I'm sure he still has a pretty strong physique and can be sure he will be able to play for the next 4 seasons. Now this signing is quite impressive Xavi has done because he really has the soul of building a club because he is able to get star players, with his experience which is quite impressive, of course it will really help Xavi in ​​the next season, especially in the Champions League.

Lewandowski, Gundogan and several other players can say that Barcelona will be stronger next season. I think xavi will bring in some other players in this transfer window, they will make significant changes to improve on their weaknesses last season in the champions league.
2153  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 21, 2023, 11:35:35 PM
Tonali is very close to leaving AC Milan for joining Newcastle.

They are talking about 80m €
He is quite an important player in the ac milan squad, i don't believe the management will sell tonali to newcastle united. So if this really happens I think AC Milan will be quite difficult to find the right replacement like Tonali for next season. Tonali is the best midfielder for now i guess if Ac milan doesn't see the money in this then i'm sure they wont let him go.

However, in the latest developments, it seems that Newcastle United is really not standing still to get the Tonali, they will comply with AC Milan request at the release price. I think ac milan without their Tonali will be weak enough for next season.
2154  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga dan Potensi Altcoin on: June 21, 2023, 11:23:05 PM
Selama rilis shiba di binance sebenarnya kalau lihat chart pada periode rilis pertama kalau tidak salah mencapai 0,00004 USDT kemudia turun dia sekitar 0.000005 USDT. Kemudian mereka mencapai ATH dekitar 0,000088 USDT pada tahap ini saya melihat ada korelasi dengan harga BTC.  Saat itu kalau tidak salah harga BTC juga ada di posisi ATH kemudian berangsur menurun sampai saat ini. Memang korelasi ini tidak terbukti kebenarnnya karena memang shiba rilis dalam periode belum lama. Mungkin jika BTC besok naik melebihi ATH dan Shiba dapat kembali melebih ATH, mungkin korelasi itu menguat. Walau memang setiap BTC mengalami Bullrun pasti diikuti oleh Altcoin lain. IMO. CMIIW
Umumnya sih untuk token meme akan berkorelasi dengan harga induknya sih mas, misal ada di jaringan ETH, mereka akan ikut naik berdasarkan harga ETH, cuma pada kasus pumping tentu ini sudah diluar korelasi lagi. Untuk token yang mengikuti kenaikan BTC, biasanya yang memiliki pair BTC di CEX, dan itu beriringan tidak berjalan sendiri-sendiri. Kalau misalkan terjadi kenaikan pada koin tetentu sudah pasti itu bukan korelasi lagi, tapi pump. cmiiw
coin meme memang sulit di tebak untuk saat ini karena mereka memiliki komunitas yang sangat kompak seperti pepe. Pepe di hari ini naik cukup signifikan di mana hampir 50%. Saya kira pepe ini banyak di miliki oleh paus besar sehingga mereka dengan kompak melakukan pemompaan yang besar dalam situasi market seperti saat ini. Yah keuntungan yang besar menghampiri mereka yang membeli pepe dalam 3 hari sebelumnya. Tentu saja persamaan tingkat coin meme akan sulit di tebak karena pada dasarnya adalah doge dan kedua shib tapi kedua coin ini malah tak terlihat kenaikan yang signifikan hari.
2155  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI]Altcoin Kategori Layer 1 & 2(Berpotensi tinggikah?) on: June 21, 2023, 11:17:58 PM
Nah untuk berburu airdrop ane sih sangat suka apalagi dengan project dengan konsep terbaru yang mungkin masih aneh di telinga kita. Nah untuk saat ini kayaknya binance juga akan memiliki network sendiri untuk layer 2 yang di beri nama opBNB.
Selama ga terlalu berharap dengan airdrop fine" aja sih. Agan harus ingat kalau materi marketing kadang juga melebih-lebihkan, plus banyaknya proyek yang launch ke berbagai network biasanya ga menjamin layer 2/3 itu bakal bertahan.

Ane baru dengar itu sidechain BNB. Apa network BNB demandnya tinggi banget sampai bandwithnya ga mencukupi? Sekilas sepertinya ditargetkan buat market gaming. Agan sudah riset dalam itu produknya seperti apa?
Saya pikir ini layer 2 yang di luncurkan oleh binance dalam sidechain terbarunya yang di beri nama opbnb akan mencangkup dari semua opsi baik itu gaming atau dalam transaksi karena dalam tweet mereka dimana mereka membandingkan biaya pengeluaran dalam satu tx dimana hanya memakan $0.005 dan itu adalah senjata utama untuk menarik para pengguna crypto untuk menggunakan sidechain mereka di layer 2. Selain itu saya kira bentu demand yang tinggi karena komunitasnya tentu saja membuat peluncuran ini akan di yakini akan lebih sukses di bandingkan dengan layer 2 lainnya seperti arbitrum atau optimism.
https://opbnb.bnbchain.org/en
https://twitter.com/BNBCHAIN/status/1671608930181447681?t=BeosXbzKySc0YopphPOWGw&s=19
2156  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: June 20, 2023, 11:18:51 PM
Pep Guardiola is just protecting the future of the club, he is not a kind of coach that built for just two or three seasons their in charge. Pep Guardiola wants to bring in Young stars that is why he will not allow Manchester city to give Gundogan a two years contract, if he don't accept the one year, Pep Guardiola will open the door for him to exit. Gundogan has won everything for the club and captain,he has proven to be world class, every team will buy him, because his price has increased in the market after the champions league and the treble they won this year.
Manchester city has Gundogan replacement in the team already so he won't be a problem to pep Guardiola if he leaves.
He is a firm coach who can read the direction of progress for the team in the next season so that when he makes a decision, of course he has thought about things from the start. Well, indeed the offer submitted by Manchester City, which was only for 1 season, made Gundogan not too interested in signing a new proposal which made him included in the list of players whose contracts had ended as announced recently. So, I think that with the quality that Gundogan has, he will receive offers from many big clubs for his next career. For now i think barcelona is ahead to get gundogan. But secretly arsenal also has an interest in Gundogan.

For Pep Guardiola, he has a lot of players in stock for that position. I think Gundogan's departure will not be a burden for him. But every effort is still being made by pep guardiola to persuade Gundogan to stay with manchester city.
2157  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 20, 2023, 11:02:38 PM
I want to address Darwin Núñez, it was not an excellent season ofcourse, yet Darwin Núñez had a very good season in the league with Liverpool. A young talent, in a new team, in a new country and language and yet he was able to bag 15 goals. We can argue about the fee but it was an okay season for Darwin Núñez in the just concluded season.

Also, with Firmino leaving and Jota always unfit, it makes sense for Liverpool to sign a new forward player
It's true as you said, nunez was not able to perform brilliantly in his first season with Liverpool, but I believe he can maximize the quality he has for the next season. Nunez statistics in the EPL this season, he was only able to score 9 goals from the 29 matches he played, of course that's not enough for us to recognize him as a sticker who is truly qualified so he has to do a better job next season. Jota can still be counted on by Liverpool for next season but unfortunately he often suffers from injuries which make him fail to show the quality he has.

So Firmino departure will indeed leave a gap for Kloop to do in the transfer market. I think he really has to be careful in signing the stickers because they need a lot of big changes for next season after this season their performance has been unsatisfactory because they failed to close the season in the top 4.
2158  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 20, 2023, 10:48:26 PM
Arsenal did make an offer of £75 million for Declan Rice and they also offered £15 million as an add-on. But even that offer was rejected by West Ham. I think Arsenal is actually going to spend £100 million on these players. I really do not think it is going to be a very good idea to do that. I mean, Arsenal could find another player with this amount of money. I

 understand that they feel like they absolutely need him in the squad. But for £100 million I don’t think it is going to be a good transfer. Regardless to say if Declan Rice does not perform well enough, they are not going to be able to sell him for a decent price. I just don’t know if this is a risk worth taking.

I already know that Arsenal is ready to spend a lot of money in this transfer market. They are spending £100 million on one player. And they are still going to bring in other players as well.

Declan Rice really stole the attention of many teams from the EPL, especially Arsenal. With the exorbitant offer submitted by Arsenal for West ham for Declan Rice, in fact, West ham did not accept an offer from Arsenal because West ham wanted more than what Arsenal had proposed.

Indeed, Declan Rice has had quite a brilliant season this season, so it's no doubt that many big clubs are eyeing him. I think West ham will make quite a fortune on the sale of Declan Rice.  We'll see if the other stronger teams in the EPL make a higher bid to get Declan rice.
2159  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI]Altcoin Kategori Layer 1 & 2(Berpotensi tinggikah?) on: June 20, 2023, 10:39:38 PM
saya pikir untuk saat ini Hype project dari kategori Layer 2 cukup hype ya, terutama mereka menarik komunitas crypto dengan cara memberikan token airdrop yang mana hal ini berdampak cukup baik bagi perkembangan token mereka di exchange.
Ane rasa faktor utama token punya perkembangan harga yang baik adalah karena proyek itu sendiri gan. Airdrop memang bisa jadi insentif, tapi kalau hanya airdrop banyak yang membuktikan kalau hal itu tidak cukup. Arbittrum yang agan sebutin sebelum memberikan airdrop udah melakukan banyak test di testnet setahu ane, dengan berbagai macam proyek dst. Dengan kata lain ekosistemnya sudah ada, dan ini menarik user untuk membeli token mereka dengan harapan proyek" yang ada di ekosistem tersebut bakal berkembang pesat juga nantinya. Mirip dengan ETH itu sendiri imo.

Dengan kata lain, kalau agan mau berburu airdrop proyek layer 2, coba dilihat juga ekosistem mereka seperti apa. Lebih baik tidak terlalu optimis karena malah bisa bikin stress nantinya. Perlakukan airdrop dst sebagai spekulasi, bukan kepastian.
Iya sih memang ekosistem mereka adalah yang pertama bagi layer 2 kalau saya tidak salah bahkan jaringan mereka sudah tersedia di banyak pertukaran di waktu itu sebelum mereka mengeluarkan token. Nah untuk saat ini saya juga melihat ada kemajuan yang cukup pesat pada platfrom arbitrum karena banyak project baru yang memakai jaringan mereka untuk mengeluarkan token sehingga perkembangan pada arbitrum akan membawa kepastian besar bagi coinnya dan seperti yang di nyatakan oleh op apakah token layer 2 berpotensi tinggi kah tentu saya mengatakan kalau token layer 2 sangat berpotensi naik lebih kuat jika situasi market kembali pulih setelah penurunan yang terjadi belakangan ini. Nah untuk berburu airdrop ane sih sangat suka apalagi dengan project dengan konsep terbaru yang mungkin masih aneh di telinga kita. Nah untuk saat ini kayaknya binance juga akan memiliki network sendiri untuk layer 2 yang di beri nama opBNB.
2160  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga dan Potensi Altcoin on: June 20, 2023, 10:28:29 PM
Shiba menurut terawang saya bisa masuk dalam daftar altcoin yang punya potensi untuk miningkat bersamaan dengan altcoin lain yang lebih tua dan lebih kuat komunitasnya seperti Dogecoin.
Pada dasarnya, kita masih belum bisa memastikan beberapa jenis altcoin yang kita yakini memiliki potensi untuk meningkat ketika grafik Bitcoin mengalami peningkatan.
Ini terawangan dari sudut pandang holder Shiba?  Grin
Tiap altcoin juga punya potensi yang sama, mereka bisa saja ikut naik bersamaan koin-koin yang sudah mapan. Harusnya bisa sama-sama naik ketika altcoins season. Tapi perlu diingat bahwa Shiba ini tetaplah memecoin yang tidak tentu arahnya, beda dengan altcoin dengan fundamental kuat. Naik turun Shiba masih sangat bergantung dengan hype memecoin itu sendiri.

Selama ini saya juga belum pernah melihat efek pengaruh peningkatan Bitcoin pada Shiba layaknya altcoin seperti Ethereum.
Mungkin ketika ATH baru dicapai oleh Bitcoin, Shiba juga ikut naik.
Maksudnya ini gimana?
Apakah kalau BTC naik berarti otomatis Shiba ikut naik?
Shiba beda dengan ETH yang identik chartnya dengan BTC.


Bahkan itu terlihat nyata di hari ini dimana btc naik sekitar 4% tapi harga shib turun 1% itu pertandanya kalau shib bukan tolok ukur sama kenaikan btc tapi mereka adalah coin meme yang bisa di pumd tanpa news begitu juga sebaliknya. Keadaan market hari ini cukup baik bahkan saya sendiri cukup senang melihat harga altcoin kembali naik apalagi yang kita tahan dari jauh jauh hari. Namun saya pikir puncak kenaikan altcoin akan sulit di prediksi tapi jika fundamentalnya kuat dengan di iringi oleh kenaikan harga btc maka ada peluang cukup besar altcoin tersebut akan naik juga.
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