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2161  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Logic of some gamblers against math on: December 16, 2023, 11:58:41 PM
Hi guys. Someone will explain to me why gamblers have such a strange logic: if a gambler has received a huge multiplier, then he will not withdraw this money. And he will continue to play, saying, "if I'm so lucky, I'll be lucky again now."
But according to the laws of mathematics, the chance of such luck becomes much less, doesn't it?
I don't know what you mean by math, but I see he's just trying his luck hoping for a bigger win. Of course, if you gamble like this you will keep losing because you can't control when you win, in other words we have become greedy.

Because believe it or not, if you play gambling there are no consecutive wins even though the percentage is very small, the winning algorithm is like that, if you have won it will be difficult to win again unless you move to another game. . The only advice is that if you have won, you should stop for a moment and continue again later because if you follow your desires by doubling your winnings you will regret it if you lose.

I have always thought that every casino game has to have a lot of mathematics, formulas and a lot of logic. In addition , we can do Several things that have to do with mathematical modeling and that can be related to game theory and everything that has to do with it. with the random, that is why when we focus on trying to make any movement of money , because things Happen in a more difficult way, since I was in the U, I have tried to look for all the patterns in the roulette wheels, to see which bet can be the most winning, in this order of ideas I tell myself that it is something very difficult , and almost impossible, but not Impossible, because randomness is the factor that Always makes us lose or win, in In the case that we look for schemes or patterns, what is Random makes us lose and what we do without thinking becomes Random , and that is something that is very difficult to determine.

From what I have seen, the casinos are Quite Jealous with their Machines , I don't know if it is Provably Fair and for anything that has to do with it , the casinos are Practically very jealous in that regard and the Provably Fair determines a lot of what they It has to do with the legality of the casinos and it is also very Accepted by the players , for everything it represents , I have seen many threads here in the forum that say that they already beat the Probably Fair, which is something that does not have sense, but things are like that, there are many people who are always looking for a way to win whatever it takes, but I think that when Things are done to be Able to win, it is something that algorithms do to try to read what the system does, and what The seed and everything it has in its technical part is what gives Confidence, this is something that not Everyone knows but between that and Google's random system, it can be done that the Greatest Acceptance is there, that is why we We must consider all this before playing.

For me it makes a lot of sense to Know the mathematics applied to games of chance , and with respect to the random factor it is Quite difficult to win when it comes out, and what is not Known is that this random factor is Present at any moment of the Game.
2162  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: December 16, 2023, 11:40:34 PM
Yesterday's games didn't have results that surprised me. the leader of the table, Al Hilal played against Al Wehda, in that game as I had already said in my last comment, Al Hilal came into this game as the favorite due to many factors: they played at home, they won all of the last 5 games, they are the main favorites to win the league and also since the league started they have not had any defeat yet, in 17 games they have not lost in any game and managed to score 50 goals and only conceded just 9 goals, this means that they has an average of 3 goals scored per game and a perfect defense. while their opponent, who is in a position very far from the top of the table, came into this game with a very poor performance
Al Hilal is an unstoppable team whether they played in Saudi Pro League or AFC Champions League. Yesterday's match against Al-Wehda was dominated by Al-Hilal by far which kept attacking without losing much the ball. They are the most favourite team to win these competitions.
Al-Hilal opponents aren't very good so far and their direct competitors were Al-Nassr which don't have matches in these days. For Al-Ittihad, they got kicked from the FIFA Club World Cup after being defeated by three goals against Al Ahly from Egypt.
You have the feeling that Al-Hilal are playing alone in Saudi Pro League while the others are trying to keep with Al-Hilal rhythm!

Well, the truth is that things when it comes to seeing Al Hilala are a great advantage, they are 10 points ahead of Al Nassr, and well, things can manifest themselves in a great way, the CR7 team is far behind, of course They are second, but nothing like being first, I wonder if things are quite good in this league for the team, now I am worried about Al Nassr, because as far as I have seen CR7, he has done well, he has scored good goals, and he is on his way to being a born scorer, in this sense many in Europe say that this should not be like that, that it is not the same, that it cannot reach Haaland, or anything like that, I consider that Things are pretty good if you try to do things well, now if I consider a team like Al Nasstr with a star like CR7 and Mane, well, it is something that will look very good, of course that is what is known. What they have to do is win from now on, because in this case of losing or being tied, Al Hilal is gaining an advantage that can make the difference.

This league seems very interesting to me, because things in Europe are also very hot, especially in the PL, this Lia has become so important that sometimes it is difficult for me to get the games of this league, because the TV is sometimes very closed to the games , I consider that things are interesting now, before we were looking for the games of good teams, that are quite exciting, but it seems to me that those in the Saudi League are difficult on some occasions, now this about these teams because we are seeing the great focus on world football, I don't know, but what they are doing so far has led this football to cause a lot of interest in the world of football where many fans want to see the games because most of their stars are playing, that is It's a pity for Neymar Jr that it's probable that we won't see him there, so there was speculation, but what happens is the best.

Saudis plan summer move for Premier League star whose arrival would be bigger than Ronaldo’s



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That is according to the latest from Daily Mail. The report claims that the Saudi Pro League will make fresh attempts to sign the Egyptian superstar next summer having failed in the summer.

The Liverpool man is said to be the main target for the league and all their focus will be on signing him.

The report claims that he is viewed as an even more important transfer target for the Saudi League than Cristiano Ronaldo who joined Al-Nassr last year.

This is no surprise since Salah is considered a footballing icon in the Arab world and signing him would no doubt be a huge boost for the league.

Source: https://www.caughtoffside.com/2023/12/16/saudis-plan-summer-move-for-premier-league-star-they-view-him-more-important-than-ronaldo/
2163  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: December 16, 2023, 11:19:52 PM
When I see the 1% for games of chance it is something that makes me think, why? because many of us who are in this game and at the same time in trading feel that it is easier for us to put money in trading than in the game itself, but it is also good to say that When we are in the Game then An Option if we want to have that 1% looking for profits , when it is that way it is 1% that will go away in a moment, I Preferred to talk about less than 1% for the game if a person wants to have fun, but If you want to win, that depends on what you can do, for example in my case I always have, because I'm not going to play with little money, 10usd per session, let's say, it's not like I play all day, but I have that, and well, with That's fine, I feel like I do things better this way, because I have control within myself that if I spend them, then nothing, there is nothing to do, I have no regrets left.

In the event that I can make any other amount, maybe it will be less, but I have always arranged that, now when it comes to the slots, well as I said, I only use them to be able to have fun and forget about everything a little, It's like that moment when you go to the football stadium and you forget everything and that Moment you live with your team, it's something that can be given for good, of Benefit to me, if I win, then I take advantage of it, I leave it there If I lose it doesn't matter , Because it's my money that I had to spend on the slots, for that reason it is that whenever we are in a casino we must mature that commitment, knowing that for anything we have to give what we want, but there are people who They take slots very seriously, and for a slot machine it is money that has to be invested and a lot of it, that is something that we have to consider , there is no other Option , it is what Should be done, at least I think of it that way.
2164  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Importance of Gambling to the society on: December 16, 2023, 11:03:17 PM

In general, I completely agree with you. Because there are many topics on the forum that say a lot of negativity towards gambling, and this despite the paradox that many of us carry signature campaigns from casinos or other gambling organizations. Lol. In fact, not a very large number of players suffer from gambling addiction, like about 10 percent - it all depends on where you study the statistics. And the casino has many advantages - it’s an excellent anti-stress, and the opportunity to make money, or have fun with friends, when someone spins the slots, and others watch and laugh.

I would also like to say THANK YOU to the casino forum representatives for the competitions.

The gambling had both positive and negative effects to the society and to the forum.If the gamblers made the good money,he will start to praise about the gambling site among their friends and to the forum.If the same gamblers who loss their money in the gambling site will do the negatively affected and spread negative news about the gambling site.So it doesn’t mean the gambling site had only negative impact.The gambling sites had give the many billionaires to our society,the jackpot win is enough for the person to become the millionaire or billionaire.

The gambling addicted person will get into the ransom for the money for the next game,if they loss the entire money in the gambling site.They also kidnapped their own grandchildren for the money for the gambling and this was non removable one by the gamblers to the society.

Yes, gambling has given society many millionaires, but when I hear about another lucky person who has won a lot of money, I ask myself how long will he keep this amount of money? is he ready for that kind of money? It’s no secret that in our society, probably only 5 percent of people know how to manage money, knowing that money is both an investment and a tool through which you can earn more and more.
Nevertheless, victories are always good, especially big ones, and thanks to gambling for the fact that sometimes it changes the lives of people who never dreamed of seeing the world, helping relatives, starting a life and not existing.
Well, what I have always asked myself is how that person managed to get there and how much did they spend? As the process has been, I don't know if you have seen in some stake.com threads, duelbits, in casinos like these, that somehow the Winners of games like slots have published their winnings, which have been quite large, and They have given everything they have to be able to generate more things, we only see the tip of the Iceberg , we have not seen everything they have gone through to be able to have profits of that style, I believe that the path is not as easy as many newbies sometimes believe and people who don't watch games very much, because they have their sacrifice, their way of seeing the game as they see it , as I have said on other occasions, every person who dedicates themselves to this professionally, I see who they are or I consider who they are professionals if they move money from $1M , I see the same as trading.

For me, a trading professional is when he moves amounts like $1M or more in his Operations, because managing so much money is a very professional Level, few focus on it because each movement can make them win or lose in a moment. To another, these things are dangerous, but in this sense I see it, maybe I can be very radical, but it is my way of seeing things in this sense, some people who have experience in games are something else, I have seen worse The biggest prizes are when they use the slots, and the slots can give these profits , but we do not know how many times a person will win one million dollars, how much they have invested in these games, how many Times they will have done it, well things can be significantly affected by everything that we could call effective, in slot games things can happen good or bad , but they happen, so this is what I believe , there is a lot of effort and dedication to win so much money.

2165  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever heard about financing a gambler? on: December 16, 2023, 10:41:00 PM
I would like to add to this that a player who wants to win and pay off debts thinks this way when he is in a sad situation and losing. But if he is lucky and really wins a lot of money, then there is a very high probability that he will continue to play and not go to repay his debts. The funny thing for me is that he doesn’t know why he continues to play to win $1 billion? Ahah. I want to say that some people's brains turn off completely and the player should not have the casino take over his brain.

It is likely that they will continue the game because when the game is good, it is likely that they will not think about stopping because the game is good, making them continue the game, even though they have won but if the game is good, it is unlikely that they will cash out. the chances of cashing out are very slim especially if the game is good because the greed that exists can encourage them to continue gambling as well as they will not have the awareness to cash out, so the risk of losing the winnings that have been obtained can occur because the casino will also not give continuous wins.

You should just realize that if you get a big enough win it's better to cash it in, because the luck on your side may have run out.
Usually many people decide in advance that when they win “a lot of money” (without knowing the exact number), they will stop and withdraw this winnings immediately. But when it comes to this, the mind becomes foggy and actions chaotic. The player cannot believe in his success, various thoughts appear that confuse him and he forgets what he wanted to do. He no longer remembers that they need to be taken out as he planned. There must be willpower and a strong character so as not to succumb to the clouding of the mind by this win. My words may not be taken seriously, but that's how it goes when it comes to this, you need to be prepared in advance.

Yes it is like that, gamblers who do gambling when they get a win they will have other motives, where their initial motive is to get a win and cash it in and then leave, but who knows with decisions that can change halfway through where they can continue the game because they think that they get this win because they are lucky and they decide to continue the game by increasing the amount of bets and hoping that luck is still there, but the reality is different, where defeat plays the most role when they do this.
 
rather than financing someone it is better that the money is used by ourselves, after all, the logic is this, we ourselves like to gamble and of course gambling requires money, so why should finance others if we ourselves still like to gamble, it is better for us to do the gambling ourselves.

This financing of a player is Something very delicate, because you have to read the sponsorship terms well, and the reason for each movement because obviously he will play with money that is not his but the sponsor's, and money has many friends , enemies , everyone in the world is looking for money, and that is something that lends Itself to many Problems when things are left in the air, I have never heard anyone talk about this, because in the casino everything is ausrerte, to the factor random, all this has to do with that, but I am one of those who think that when you do something like that, you have to start losing it because leaving it up to that balance is what occurs to me, because I have seen that Few people are capable of doing something like that, it would have to be someone who has a lot of money and who wants to take risks in that way, but it is something very risky, I would not recommend something like that, in fact I see it as Crazy, yes I have seen this to Trade , but not to play.

It may be that a type of contract is established for the option of Doing it with a person who is only going to make sports bets, which then can demand enough results, because there the person who makes the bets knows, and has criteria to be able to generate any type Of things Related to this , I might think that when one can take a risk, there are some traders who copy-paste their operations and people pay to give them the Signals , but that is something that has nothing to do with this. Of the games, in the games I lean more Towards Sports bets , which is what I see as most Viable, Possible and that can happen.

There are many people who can do this in sports betting , in Telegram groups they have subscriptions that are free for 1 month and then they do have to pay a monthly fee to be VIP, but I can't talk about it, because I have never made bets with persaons like that.
2166  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: December 16, 2023, 10:19:15 PM

I have always advised people not to take gambling seriously but I myself became heavily addicted to live blackjack from stake.com and kept winning and losing. In this case I will not blame the gambling site because they give live cards. I started the game with just $20 but gradually I got addicted to it and wanted to gamble and win bigger amounts by depositing bigger amounts. I lost $1700 playing this way then I decided to play with a much bigger amount and recover all the losses then quit gambling for this I borrowed 270000 BDT ($2180) from the bank and deposited there. But unfortunately I lost them. Now I am financially so weak that it has become very difficult to meet my family expenses and I owe the bank $2180 which will take me a long time to pay off. Now it will take about 2 years for my financial situation to be normal again. Gambling addiction set back my normal life by 2 years. I am a victim of real experience and I am sharing my real experience with you.  Don't make the same mistake I did.  And never decide to gamble with a loan. If you do, your situation may be similar to mine. so beware of gambling

It's not really advisable to take out a loan just to gamble, don't do that because you'll only get worse from what you're doing. We know that gambling is dangerous so you need to be in the right mindset no matter what happens. If you don't have any more gambling money, just shut up and do something else to entertain yourself. It is very risky to take out a loan just for gambling, many people are buried in debt, their lives are ruined because of it. So let's avoid this from happening to us.
This one of the worst thing a man can do in the name of gambling,this are the people that I call addicts,because they have gambled to the extent that when their money finishes,they don't feel okay,they still want to borrow from other people to continue giving the Cassino more money,
If you want to gamble with someone's money,it shouldn't be that the person loaned it out to you,it should be that the person gave you the little he can  to assist you,and not to take it in the name of taking a loan.

So many person have fallen into depression because they  took a loan they find very difficult to meet up.Zince gambling is not a guarantee source of money,It is only good to gamble responsibly with the little cash in their hand.

Well we always put a lot of emphasis on the fact that many things can be generated that come after making the loans, first of all those who lend in a drop by drop way because it is the most used way at least in Colombia and there they have the money at once, in an immediate way, the bad thing is that the drop by drop if you fail, because the people look for you, they beat you so badly that they leave you half dead, that is what can be generated like this when a drop loan is made bit by bit, because those who lend are mostly people who are in mafias and live off of that, so you have to be careful especially with the interest, the interest on the loans, in this case with the drop by drop, are very large, since Sometimes people don't have much left to pay, and it's interest only for at least 1 month, then the next month it's interest+capital, so all these types of things are the ones we should always see.

Now, when we are in a casino, the least thing we should do is that , lend money, if we finance ourselves more, then we can have the results we should have, but I would never recommend lending money to play in a casino, of course. As I have said on previous occasions, it is preferable to lend money to buy Bitcoin, because Bitcoin is a safe investment, and if it is left for the long term, the growth will be exponential. Of course, it is advisable that if you take a loan to buy Bitcoin , it must be paid as soon as possible, but it is an investment in the future and that is what is sought, a safe investment, an investment that becomes manifest in a few years, since it multiplies greatly, that is why we have we 'a loan to play in a casino that is very likely to lose everything, the problem will be per, on the other hand it may happen that money is lent, bitocin is bought and then bitcoin increases in price or reaches a new ATH the Loans pay themselves.
2167  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are some things you should always avoid while gambling ? on: December 16, 2023, 08:21:47 PM
This is no joke. Many people do this because they do not want to see any money in their account, something will just be pushing them to gamble, and they will not stop until they waste this money as the case may be. You might call this addiction, but I call it foolishness and a foolish person can be very surprising and will never build but destroy due to his foolishness. This is why it's the worst I see in gambling and detest those who indulge themselves in it.

Indeed these guys who fall into gambling addiction are foolish enough to not control themselves and let urge to gamble overcome them.  I believe these people are sick and need medical treatment or rehabilitation.  Once a gambler falls into an addiction, he will not have any control over their gambling activities so instead of detesting them or feel hatred or dislike, we should try to understand their situation first.  If we can offer help then lend our hand to help them to better themselves.

Detest is not the solution to interacting with gambling addicts.  We should be more open-minded to understanding gambling addict's situation.  One way or another as human beings we are not perfect and sometimes we also do foolish things... 

Well we all know that when a person does not control themselves enough they can fall into the addiction of the game at once, it is something that is very difficult to Assume , but unfortunately this type of events Occurs in the world, but of course sometimes it sounds something What I will say is rude, but whoever falls into gambling addiction is because he allowed it, because it is only that person's fault, but why? because we are People who when we enter a game, we are not required to play a forced game, nor are we required to have an amount to start, and they do not tell us that we have to play a game in particular, we are only acts of our own actions and that is what we must see, in a casino everything we do is because it is a neutral decision, a casino cannot only get inside us and tell us not to play anymore, or to stop, no, because one as a player would say , that is not Casnio's problem, it is our problem how we manage money.

So in the case of Being a person who is aware of this, we are Adults , what do we play in some way are we not aware that this is a game for adults, not for children , nor for teenagers , what does that assume when we are adults? that every act we do entails a great responsibility, that we are capable of assuming our things and what we assume to come out good or bad from any activity, and if we go wrong, then we must assume the things that go wrong, and we believe that have a lot of maturity to say that we are wrong, but just as we have that maturity, we have to have the willpower to do what harms us, an addicted person looks for money in any way possible, sells valuable things, lends money desperately, alone by playing, and that is not correct, not only can you lose a lot of money, but you can even lose friends, family, and there are Cases in which people lose their lives because some even commit suicide.
2168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can old generation cause the habit of gambling in young generation ? on: December 16, 2023, 07:54:00 PM
The older people are talking about games and the results of the games with themselves, and the younger ones are listening to them. Do they in any way talk about how much they wager and how much they win from any single game that they bet? If not, then there is nothing bad that they are doing. All I see is that those people are just talking about games and nothing about gambling or winning.
 
If there is anything that those younger ones are supposed to adopt or learn, it is that they will learn about sport and might enjoy watching the game. Maybe if they want to get involved in gambling, it will be them themselves who will have to lecture themselves about gambling based on the love that they have developed for sport or any other form of game that they are watching.

Well, on many occasions we have heard people talk about their experience in the game, it is something for us to take experience and learn, in any case when we are in a casino we must be very emphatic people who must always have self-control, just putting Play what we are willing to lose, that is normal, but those of us who have always had grandparents, they have given us their credit, and it may be that some say that caisnos are very nice to have fun or something, but it is also good to say that Los caisnos will always be a company where we as players must be very careful, always our grandparents, or people who are older than us, at some point they have told us about this because it could be a cause to do some type of activities, in my case When I was very little, I asked my grandmother about the casinos and she told me that it was dangerous, that every person who got into it lost money and became addicted, that there were many people who lost houses and everything. .

When my grandmother told me that, I was scared, but it remained in my mind that why casinos existed then, then I didn't think about that anymore, and well, when I was already an adult, I already had a different way of thinking , I know that casinos are companies that will always have an advantage over gamblers because they have to ensure their profit and that is something normal, something that we must see as extremely important to know well what we are thinking about, of course all this This is what people who have more life experience can say to us at any given time, however one takes advice and also makes a filter of the things that one can accept and consider for one's life, such as good, bad and bad. This makes us what we are , in some cases it is like that, in others there are books, financial advice.
2169  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What according to you should be the age to retire from gambling ? on: December 16, 2023, 07:22:22 PM
I can answer that question with a simple question OP. Is there any age a person should retire from making and spending money.?

At old age there are expenses to make bills to pay and some other things to do like shopping as well. So you still need money to do this. Yes some elderly people have families and relatives that could take care of those needs but they still love making money for themselve, even at that age. These set of persons, if they are gamblers when they were young they would still gambling at old age because the urge to make money through gambling is still in them.

And since they cannot go and work physical work.  The best option for them is gambling. In my country, the best gamblers are elderly people. My uncle is an elderly man and he has been the who influenced me into gambling and i have won upto 70% of the games he has sent to me.


The gambler who get the regular income till his old ages can do the gambling without the retirement.Because gambling needs to have money for the game,if they get at their old age.Then why should they think about the retirement from the gambling,rather they have some fun by playing the gambling at their last years to this journey to world.Some ladies will have the habit of shopping even at their old ages,the men will have habit of spending time in the gambling.Most of the young people doing the gambling in their young age will be drug addicted person.So they will lose the funds at the half minded game.If the gambler play without consume drugs,So they can apply their strategies to the gambling and easy money to get from the gambling site.

Well, personally I have always thought about something, you have to do things when you have to do them at the right time, that is, if you want to play in a casino, you just have to save the money to spend it in the casino, without get your hopes up that you are going to win or something like that, because things can be very different when you start to be able to do something and have fun and gain, in particular whenever you think about the perfect age to do an activity? Well, there isn't one, to retire from the game? If there is something or an activity that we like, why should we leave? because? We have to do what we always like, that is something that we as human beings must always consider, because in what we live we have always been in a system where they tell you, just work until you are 65 years old and after that you will have your monthly money because the State pays it to you, (well in the most prosperous countries they give such a pension) but I consider that if you are in shape at 65, why leave things like that? until that age? No, there is no way, you have to stay there, fighting because that is what you are passionate about.

Now , a casino is always a way for us to have fun ,  and I think that in many people it causes an effect of unique happiness for people and that is what should be seen, I believe that we are in this world because we Deserve to be. well and always be happy, no matter the age, I have always said something, age is a number and it is something that we can endure, and we cannot let ourselves collapse because of that, if we oppose being in other activities, maybe they will make us tired, They exhaust us, but we have to accept that things are better when we do what we like , for that reason it is that we always under any scheme must do what we enjoy, that is why for me there is no age, what we must have To have fun in a casino is money , nothing more.
2170  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income on: December 16, 2023, 06:58:58 PM

Getting results in gambling is something that is very impossible to achieve, although there are some people who are lucky enough to win several times even though they have experienced many losses before. It is indeed wrong if we think of gambling as a way to make money, yes you are right, gambling is only for those looking for fun in the games they play, but we must still limit ourselves in the games we play if we don't want to get into trouble our life.
Yes, it is impossible to achieve victory in gambling quickly and easily because along the way there will definitely be obstacles or obstacles that gamblers may never know about. Then they will try to solve the problem with more careful behavior.
Of course, gambling should not be used as an activity to make money, but only as entertainment and every gambler must always be aware of this so that they don't experience a bad life because they rely on gambling as a place to make money.


Not an easy path to make money and be successfull but there are some who manage to win and make a good use of this venue to change their financial capabilities, gambler who use their experience and time to create strategy that work for them to get some decent amount of money from this venue.

Though like what you mentioned, not many or limited numbers of gamblers who lucky enough to control the balance and find the right pattern to avoid getting addicted and manage to make this place as a source of extra income.

Not only that because gambling is not a place for anyone to find success if you act as a gambler and nothing more. It is impossible and almost impossible but strangely few of the gamblers realize that gambling is not a place to earn income but nothing more than a place to fill spare time when they are bored. So that's why for anyone who takes gambling too seriously then they will usually suffer defeat even with large amounts.

For the problem of luck, it is really out of human control and maybe there will still be luck but maybe in the amount it cannot be known, so it is better for us to emphasize self-control and limits rather than being busy looking for an uncertain and difficult victory.

It is very incorrect to talk about the game as if you could have an income, that is not correct, but based on the fact that things can be seen from the point of view closest to doing something like being very lucky and winning big amounts of money, if it can be done, originally this could be achieved in a casino that plays the slots, because with the slots with little money you can make a lot, now imagine the idea of putting a lot of money and in a tipro and that it has the luck of multiplying a lot, as has happened to many players, at stake.com they have always emphasized this, a lot could be said that people always seek to win, it is the normal thing, anyone seeks it and it is something notable in me Personally, whenever I play at the casino, well at stake.com and bitcasino.io is when I play the most, but I am clear about the basic principles, which are:

1.-The casino will always have the house advantage.

2.- I set aside money completely to lose, without ruling out that one always seeks to win.

Part of all these things, the casino no matter how lucky one is, because one should not do things like think that it can be taken as income, I still don't know if there is one or two, 3 people in the world who can be so lucky in a casino and every time they play they win, I really don't know if someone like that exists, but I think things can turn out very good if this type of luck can be highlighted, now, as it is a case that is very difficult to find because things are like that just to think and know if there is someone with that luck, well I think that now things should be very clear, it is not good to think that the casino has to be seen as an income, it is something that goes beyond of things, because it can be something very relevant for everyone, those who think and say that this can be an income, no, never something that is like a casino that is for enjoyment and fun cannot be taken as a means of income. .
2171  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ on: December 16, 2023, 06:21:19 PM

This season is different from the previous season because this season Aston Villa made a lot of progress in their squad and even managed to beat Manchester City. I think we will see a new team that will try to thwart Arsenal mission to win the title. But for now I still believe that Manchester City will be able to defend their title this season because they still give other teams the opportunity to step over them before the time comes for them to become leaders of the standings again.
Aston villa has really showed and put in more effort this season than last season, there winnings this season has proven that and also considering the fact that they won, man city, arsenal, Tottenham show's the fact that Aston villa's head coach has up his game. But for me i don't think they will find it easy to surpass liverpool, arsenal and mancity to win the league. Man city won't give in to that but lets keep our fingers crossed and see what happens.


You forgot to mention chelsea as well as villa was destroying chealse during the early match of EPL. Emery is slowly but surely building his club so well. Im not expecting aston villa to played so well this season. It's amazing to see this club is sitting at the third place of EPL.
I would rather than call liverpool and manchester city are the strongest candidate to win EPL this season. Believe me or not if arsenal will be bottling it again this season. Im not expect a lot from arsenal.
Arsenal is always declining once it enters into the late game, unlike the club like manchester city or liverpool which are very stable and they are to know what they are doing. Arsenal is always botting the chance to win EPL in so many seasons.
I personallly think that arsenal has no chance to win EPL. It is possible that Aston Villa will exceed the performance of all the big clubs by the end of the season. Aston villa is just getting better and better.

Im waiting for another surprise to come from aston villa. I know this club is very strong with the came of emery to the club, Emery is just a great coach but that's sad how big club in EPL was not even eyeing him.
The truth is I don't know how Arsenal can have a performance like that. I believe that when it comes to these clubs, it is mostly focused on the good that each one of them can do, I do believe that Aston Villa can do the difference, it would be a lie for me to say that I don't have faith in a team like Newcastle, because Newcastle for me is one of the things I like the most the way they play, but they are not so consistent, of course, we see City as one of the most stable teams, that have the most control over what they do, but this is just a way to say it, this competition is very strong and I believe that when it comes to such strong teams, anything can happen, it can be That the last one on the table can surpass a Man City, this is something that anything can be possible, personally I don't like City, I have more faith in a Liverpool team because of everything they have been through.

I know that many have forgotten about the Colombian, but this is a fact, the Colombian is in a very good position, Diaz can make a difference, and in reality I would like Mbappé himself to be able to go for this football, he is the only one In the same way, of course English football and Almeán football, I would like even more for a Mbappé to leave because the Germans don't have that way of praising stars or anything, that would lower the player's ego, however with a Liverpool under Luis Diaz , and WEgipci'o could do great things, that's what I see as correct, I don't see anything else, that's why I see it that way, however, the worst team I've seen in the PL, in the UCL is the Man United and it really makes you angry because this is one of the teams that were the scariest in the past, I mean it happened 10 years ago, they have always maintained a great reputation, now in the hands of Ten Hag it seems as if they were haunted , with the best squad they have and they are not capable of doing something, here it is evident that CR7 was not the problem, the problem has always been Ten Hag.

Brentford vs Aston Villa: The Bees’ “bounce back mentality” will be tested after four losses in five

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The Brentford boss also mentioned his respect for Unai Emery and knows Villa will be a tough side to beat, especially with their current form – beating Arsenal and Manchester City last week.

“What I like about him [Emery] is that he always tries to develop. So for example, his high line is not a thing I’ve seen from his sides before, so I like that. I like that he is constantly a student of the game and wants to develop things. So obviously, a top manager.”

The game will also see the return of former Bees striker, Ollie Watkins, to the Gtech Community Stadium.

Frank said: “Ollie has two major abilities that allow him to perform at this level. One of them is working unbelievably hard on the pitch and also in the gym. And two, he wants to learn. Those two abilities are crucial.

“Then he’s got a pretty good package in terms of physicality, pace, technique, game understanding.”

When asked about their plan for stopping Watkins, Frank joked: “I’m not allowed to say ‘just kick him down’ am I?”

He continued: “We are aware of his strengths and those we need to close down. He is constantly going.

Source: https://sportsgazette.co.uk/brentford-vs-aston-villa-the-bees-bounce-back-mentality-will-be-tested-after-four-losses-in-five/
2172  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: December 16, 2023, 05:40:02 PM
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No work can be done properly without skill. As mentioned earlier how to play blackjack and poker is not only a matter of chance but also of skill. Conscious people don't think of gambling as a way to make money but play for fun and with good luck it is possible to win. Remember although tricks can improve your odds blackjack is still a game of chance and the outcome is never guaranteed. The objective is to make informed decisions manage your bankroll responsibly and enjoy the game. By applying these principles you will increase your chances of winning.
You're wrong about blackjack, if the card counters knew that they're not going to make a guaranteed success when they're playing blackjack then they wouldn't waste their time doing card counting. There's a reason why casinos are scared of them that's why I disagree with the idea that card counting in blackjack is a game that won't just improve your chances but also not guarantee an outcome, you probably don't know how card counting works so you're saying this, I recommend that you watch the movie 21 or maybe some math channel in Youtube about card counting and you'd know that what you're saying isn't true.

Being a card counter is a double-edged weapon because when they stick to counting only, they have to have and comply with certain conditions, that is, that they only play with 1 maso, and that Maso, when the card spread is completed, must say that he will be a new one, this ensures that the falls and the account are not lost, because otherwise they will make a salad of accounts and everything will go wrong, this is difficult, because you have to have a good memory and nothing more, but the stupid are not stupid, They put 2 or 3 masses and so it is very easy for the accounts or the card counters to be invalidated, so even if you have a prodigious memory you cannot do anything, because the accounts will not find what it is, therefore when one You can see it in a casino, you have to do that, otherwise nothing to do with it, what I can say is that when it comes to doing something bio in card counting everything can be taken into consideration, therefore , we are people who must obey certain criteria.

People who count cards in black jack do not cheat. I do not consider that they are cheating, because using intelligence is allowed in all aspects, this means that some do not go straight for the tenth of cards, because they know that things are very different, so sometimes players play just for the sake of it. your intuition and the experience you have in black jack, I do not deny that this is one of the games that I love to play and that I have always wanted to have to play in any casino, but I prefer the games that are PVP mode and in poker too, I think that when they are like that, I have more options to win, I don't know, it could be some weakness of mine, but I always trust in that, maybe if I take stock of the opportunities I see it better that way, maybe I'm wrong, But the emotion of being played with another is like that, it could be that I have a false belief, but I consider that it is like that, I believe that things can be done that way.

2173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Beginner needs your advices in gambling. on: December 16, 2023, 03:57:34 PM
The presence of smartphones nowadays has really spoiled people because everything is on the smartphone. Even to deposit money, they can do it via their smartphone without having to go to an ATM. That's what makes people use their smartphones more and more often and can only put them on the table for a short time. And when they are used to gambling using their smartphones, they can easily visit casinos and gamble using their smartphones.

This depends on each person using their smartphone. If they are wise, they will not use their smartphones just to gamble because that can make them addicted to gambling without taking long. After all, they can gamble whenever and wherever they are.
Without a doubt this ease that smartphones have brought us has a cost, back in the day if you wanted to gamble not only you needed to do so at a regular casino, you needed to pay higher costs for everything including food and drinks and you even needed to bring the cash you wanted to gamble with you, and if you wanted to limit the chances of making a mistake you could leave your credit cards and other valuables home, but now that everything in on the smartphone, including the casino and your bank apps, you can do so this from home so it is easier than ever to spend more money than what you intended when gambling.

There is no doubt about the things that can be done through phones, personally more than 10 years ago when I was at university, I had a hard time using it to make deposits with fiat money, transfers, now I think that the interface of the new phones They are much better than those of PCs, because they have many better ones, and not to mention the photos that can be obtained with great clarity, absolute sharpness, it is something that comes out very professional, I could say that when it comes to doing things With the phone it is everything, so when we think about doing things that go further if possible, when we are in a casino on the phone it can be done, without a doubt, we have to be careful if, although I My personal opinion is that I rarely use my phone, which is why I am not such an expert, but I have seen that there are people who are very experts in this, they have the ability to do many things.

Well, personally, I don't trust phones to play with, because sometimes I hit them with my finger and I don't know if my finger is too thick and it can't give the click it is, and that's something that goes wrong for me. , I could say that if I play something so specific and I press the wrong button because things go wrong, then that becomes a Possible loss, I could say that that is not for me because it is not suitable, but I I prefer to use my PC, it doesn't matter if it is with my personal PC, that is what gives me the most Opportunity to win, because I have skill with my mouse and my keyboard, for me that is what I have the most to do things are better , I am one of those who think like a gamer, for me if I had a gamer PC, and a Gamer environment, then everything for me Would be ideal, I see it like that, I don't know if things can be seen that way correct, but I'm that style, because every time I have my gaming session is different, since I was little I have the ability, but I'm not like that on the phone.
2174  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler takes his own life after a loss. on: December 16, 2023, 03:40:26 PM
I have always thought about something, when a player makes decisions like that it is because it was really wrong, it was very wrong because of finances, everywhere, because personally when a person is in a casino it should be clear that things can be different. easy and can take difficult paths, because losses are what can be generated at any time, a player before playing in any casino must understand that casinos are not businesses, companies that will always seek to win, and those that give money to Casinos are ourselves, so this is what we must see so that it can generate money, if we think maturely, then we can generate money , why? because if we have a balance totally ready to lose, it is one thing that changes everything, the biggest problem of every player is that when they play in the casino, they put in a lot of money and do not control it and can become decapitalized, that is what should be avoided, decapitalization is very common in people who do not know how to manage their emotions.

We are people who have to learn to have self-control , basically when we are in a place like casinos and there is no control, because with money many people get delicate, sometimes they are not able to endure losses and that means that they Cannot guarantee things as they are , maybe the person who killed himself was in a great depression, possibly with debts, alone, with no one, because sometimes people are not at the level of things , and they can do things like that by making decisions that It cannot benefit them, in addition things with casinos are quite strong if the person is not very clear about what they have to do , what they have to Master , I personally have always said that when you are in a casino you must have own rules , and that is what we must always consider, therefore it is better to have another vision of the casinos, the most correct one.
2175  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you wrap up your gambling session? on: December 16, 2023, 01:27:28 PM
I bet with no specific time criteria or bet amount, it all will be just random and I could wrap up after one bet or it could go on for a long streak, I never try to go hard on the bankroll, if I don't want to bet and still got balance I might considering maxing the bet or just let it how it is and come back when I want to bet again with a top up or just clear the balance without depositing anything.

You have a pretty sensible approach. You should bet exactly when your inner voice tells you to. The probability of winning practically does not depend on the time spent betting. On the contrary, the more time you spend, the more fatigue accumulates and the higher the probability of making an unwise action.

Well, whenever I go to play, I always have a balance ready to lose, because if I bet more or use money that I have committed to other activities, it is not the right thing to do, it is something we have to take into consideration so that our money is always there There are people who have a lot of money, I know, and they can afford to bet large amounts and when they run out, they continue betting because it doesn't cost them anything to make a larger deposit than the one they had before, so these things are those that we must consider so that we have a better performance in the casino.

If a person has in their casino funds, let's say $5k, and for each gaming session they spend 200usd, it seems exaggerated to me, because I could half or even spend less, but of course that depends on the capacity of each person. person how they can manage things in their finances, and in this case emphasis can be placed on making a better expense management plan and thus leaving with less money, the idea is that if you have $5k then things can work out masks.

If you lose the $5k, you have to think a lot about why, because it is a significant amount of money. However, if that balance reaches more than $5k, for example, take it to $7k , my Advice is always to take out the $2 k of profit, because it is good to take out the money and enjoy it, those who leave all the money there because it is not acceptable, in most cases what they do is waste that money in the same casino and what they do is lose it all, and That is very sad because things can be difficult in a casino , a casino will always have the house edge, and that is something that we Should also consider because we do not have sure wins in a casino, a casino is a business that should not be done for Win over customers, and customers are the ones who must be Careful not to lose all their Money.
2176  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sympathetic gamblers looses itself on: December 16, 2023, 12:27:25 AM
I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

Everyone who gambles has a budget or limit to his expenses on gambling, once you breakout of that threshold, it becomes a problem.
The challenge is that loads of people have no idea that they have a budget, simply because you have $1000 in your bank account doesn't mean that the allowable amount for gambling is $1000. The ignorance of this simple knowledge has been the bedrock of the whole concept behind irresponsible gambling graduated into bankruptcy
Even the concept of a budget is foreign to most people since they do not save any money at all from their monthly pay, it is because this is so common that governments eventually created their pension systems as otherwise most people will literally have to work all their lives.

However a person that used a budget and stick to it will soon find themselves with a nice amount of savings, which can later be used to invest and increase their wealth.

In the case that these things happen, it is because we have seen that there are many ways to manage money, so it is always better to consider what we are willing to lose in money, if in any of the cases we make a possible balance to lose, Suppose you have 100usd to lose in a single game session, that's perfect, it seems excellent to me, because later if in the final case of losing you have to assume what was lost and now, if we deposit after that we are doing everything wrong, we are breaking our own rules, and that is what problems are generated, I have always seen that when a person breaks their own rules everything goes wrong, and that is something that we must avoid because if we break our own rules, as we can do? Well, losing more money, and that is what should be avoided, we in the game must be intelligent, not get carried away by emotions and be beaten.

In a casino, as in everything in life, consider that you have to have an order for everything, because every time we do an activity the only way for everything to turn out well is that there is an order but there is nothing else, I believe that many people when they enter a casino have plans that are not close to reality, they think a lot about what they can win but not what they can lose, and that is something that we must always consider, because it is stepping on land, it is not build castles in the air and not get excited about anything, then you have to see things for the reality of what they imply, and as I have said on many occasions, the most important thing and what must be taken care of is money, without money we cannot do nothing, for that reason we must always do the best for ourselves, take care of the money, allocate the money that we are willing to lose and always play seeking to win without losing control, not putting in extra money so as not to get into trouble, it is very ugly to be left without money and less than money that we already have committed.
2177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bankroll! on: December 15, 2023, 11:29:42 PM
What I find is that saying figures is very Difficult to do something , first because a person has to be willing to lose a money in sports betting, in every game, in every casino one is allowed many moves, and this is something that is always known. can be done very Easily, I believe that when we are betting on sports we have to be very sure of our Bets , because to say how much we can win is very difficult, we would have to have an Absolute truth, and this is difficult, because we are people. of trial and error, and although I consider that the activity of sports betting is very similar or rather analogous to trading, because it implies knowing , in trading you cannot gamble because it would be irresponsible, you cannot invent with that , So things have to be very Careful with Money , because money in a casino is everything, and in a sports bet too.

If we decided to Venture into sports Betting, at the moment I would only leave 100usd and those 100usd as a supiociion. My goal would be to raise it to 200 in 1 month , and that is possible , if my analyzes are correct it Could be achieved, but I would have who chooses only 1 sport, at most it can be with boxing or Sometimes with the same UFC fight , which in my opinion is the most you can generate a lot of money with that, therefore, in the case of doing any type of movement, I can go more to train with respect to the sports that I like the most and that I master the most, such as those, otherwise I don't see the need for another sport, because it's like my people say, "He who covers a lot, doesn't squeeze much" and even so In sports they seem easy, but they have their Science, their way of doing things and their secret that for everyone there is always something that can be generated, always taking into consideration something Extraordinary , Like luck for Example.
2178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Heritage is Some How Spiritual on: December 15, 2023, 11:05:32 PM
Well I can say that it is a very good way of how you see Fútbol , I have always seen it that way because football is the King of sport , it is the sport that always makes you feel very good even though we practice it, in the teams. famous soccer players, there is a Saying that when you get used to playing and winning, you should always win , because it is something that will Always not make you feel good, and as long as that winning spirit is maintained, the level of the team will always It will be very high, because they know that it is a legacy , a Legacy that they can never let fall, under any type of circumstance, and now even though the Circumstances in life are Different , it is very obvious that things when they are not quite simple like playing and having fun you have to be Accompanied by gnar, for everything I always say, you Should do what you like most , Footballers have the most beautiful job in the World, they have big Salaries , they Have Great Things to do and they will always do their best for having more victories.

The fans are something that a team can always have, make them show it so that they have a better sense of Playing , of doing things so that they can please the fans , and something simple , but the people, the players, do it with all their Effort, passionate world can't make a difference, it's something simple , as we play on any team, we as amateurs, we do it because we love it, because in the end if there are no fights, there will be new friends, That's the great thing about football, in the big teams around the world things are like that, so we have to pay attention to everything that a particular team can give us, the joys it gives us , for Example I am a fan of Real Madrid, and it is a complete team, winner, whatever it may be, even if it Loses, one supports it , the Local team of our Land , also , When the National team of our Country plays, it is as if we Wanted to Play because we Believe we Can do it Plus, all that is what you should see
2179  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would you be annoyed not knowing the cards that made you fold? on: December 15, 2023, 10:23:59 PM
I am a gambling addict myself so i can't tell you for sure how and when to quit gambling. Gambling is a costly affair so student body should refrain from it as they don't have enough money to gamble. Moreover if their parents should be made more aware of this matter, then the matter can be resolved. Usually to get rid of an addiction you have to decide first and do what you can do to keep yourself occupied. In fact if you always keep yourself in the running, you can avoid gambling if you want.
It seems you already know from where to start fighting gambling addicition back. To keep your mind occupied and focused on another tasks help you staying away from gambling, so the more you organize and use your time for another activities, the less gambling addiction will bother you and interfere on your internal homeostasis. It's a good and low cost method to be applied on practice.

So far, have you been trying this for your life, or are you just advising others to do so?

Well in poker things are like that, sometimes the things that happen are very Difficult to give, because a person can play with our mind, obviously things are like that , but Personally when I decide to play poker I know that I'm going to face things like that , but in that case I think I'm one of those who follow the bet and if I lose I Retire and don't play anymore, because I'm one of those people who always give everything until the end, I'm not one to be like that. Thinking about what I can do or not, I am more than what I can achieve, in fact playing poker, things like that have always happened to me, but I always prefer to continue the game, not give up but continue, of course, if it reaches an amount that I can't, but I only leave it until there, but that almost never happens, so if that's the case I do it, in case someone bets like 500usd, it's obvious that I leave my money there, and of course, I would like to see what I lost Because that's how I see the personality of the person, if it's a very good game, it's because it tells me that that person is very confident when he has a big game, but he's insistent when he doesn't.

In most poker players we see their attitudes and how they take things to another level, because of the great amount of good things that we can find out more, I don't know if you remember the movie Maverick with Mel Gibson, he always studied his players, Opponents like that , of course , in a movie ,  but the way he Played was very logical, now things are more difficult to study, because as a player you don't see the person, you don't know what he has or what he has. do, then it is difficult, however knowing the Personality of a Person playing poker is difficult, if there is no talent it is difficult, you have to be very intuitive, calculating, know well which cards have been played, it is something difficult It is difficult to determine, but if you can, in online PVP games it seems to me that many things can be applied.
2180  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: December 15, 2023, 10:00:24 PM
What you are saying is very nice, because those tricks can be very effective for people who now want to do something well in order to have better results, but being consistent, a person who would like to get out of the vice quickly, if it is a person very believing, let's say, for example, if the person is a believer in the Catholic religion, he can easily make a promise not to play anymore for a year, something like that, and everything that is promised to God, Heavenly Father, that has to be fulfilled. Because the people who don't do it, well from then on they don't start to do well at all, that is a good and cheap way out, without the need for any psychologist or anything, that is what many can do, of course we are people. We always look for the best thing to do, but that is a very effective and economical solution, but I personally have always thought that when it comes to this addiction thing it is better to attack it quickly, to do so before things escalate into problems. greater.

We are people who have a lot to offer to be able to establish a good management in what should be done, not all people have willpower, but when someone decides to do something for better they do it because it is what they can offer, and there is no other exit, it is the best, I could say that because it is not about doing something very good, the person has to propose it, and not leave anything lightly, they have to take into consideration every detail and do everything possible to always fulfill what What is kept in mind, if we are not dedicated to doing things well, then nothing that does things will turn out wonderfully, that is why I always say, an addiction problem should always be considered a priority, be it games, alcohol, of drugs, we must not let that progress, because in one way or another it greatly affects our lives and the lives of the people who are with us.
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