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2161  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Miners that pay for electricity should seriously start reconsidering on: August 03, 2011, 08:42:30 PM
so you want me to use a MOBO with 2 PCIx slots? 



And with this comment, I will not entertain anymore of your posts until you spend a good day reading as many posts as you can to learn first, then ask good questions later.

Awesome.  I will consider us even then. 
2162  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Miners that pay for electricity should seriously start reconsidering on: August 03, 2011, 07:43:25 PM
I can make rigs that get 1.2 ghz with a better than 1.5 ratio... does that count? Wink  (all new parts too)

absolutely counts....can you give me some details?  I need cases.....these go in an office building, and it does not help "our look" to have computer parts strewn about. 
2163  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Miners that pay for electricity should seriously start reconsidering on: August 03, 2011, 07:08:51 PM
I should have prefaced with this:  I DON'T WANT SOMEONES USED CRAP.

Show me where I can build a NEW system that gets 1500 MH/s for $1,000. 
Am I really going to have to list out links because your too much of a dumb ass to realize 420 dollars for non gpu parts can be easily done....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103944
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134657
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139292
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138324
48 for extenders
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256057

That leaves 78 dollars from the 420 budget....

But seriously.  I will give you $5,250 to make me 5 of these (must be properly configured for 1,500 MH/s each)....that should leave you a very large profit margin. 
2164  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Miners that pay for electricity should seriously start reconsidering on: August 03, 2011, 07:06:00 PM
lol....."broseph"....awesome. 
2165  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Miners that pay for electricity should seriously start reconsidering on: August 03, 2011, 06:54:38 PM
so you want me to use a MOBO with 2 PCIx slots? 

2166  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Miners that pay for electricity should seriously start reconsidering on: August 03, 2011, 04:37:56 PM
I should have prefaced with this:  I DON'T WANT SOMEONES USED CRAP.

Show me where I can build a NEW system that gets 1500 MH/s for $1,000. 
2167  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Miners that pay for electricity should seriously start reconsidering on: August 03, 2011, 04:22:15 PM
So let me get this right:

step 1)  buy 4 video cards that are not readily available, and the ones that are easily exceed your claimed "price"  (at least 200 a piece)
step 2)  buy 1250 Watt PSU, 4 PCIx MOBO, processor, RAM under $420   Huh
Step 3)  profit!

Foolproof.  
2168  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Miners that pay for electricity should seriously start reconsidering on: August 03, 2011, 03:58:12 PM
How can you possibly get 1500 MH/s for $1,000?  I would love to see where to buy this setup.  In fact, I will take 5 completed systems if you can do it at that price. 

2169  Bitcoin / Mining / This is just getting nuts on: August 03, 2011, 03:51:05 PM
Newegg is sold out of every 6970 except one.  A week ago you could pick from a dozen. 

It seems like mining adoption is ACCELERATING despite the fall in price and the uptick in difficulty.  Amazing. 

I guess it makes sense though, how many other investments can offer a 100% ROI in about 4 months?  Until it takes a year or more to pay off the hardware, I doubt the adoption rate will slow. 
2170  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mining at a loss: Insurmountable Problem in the near future or am I mistaken? on: July 29, 2011, 08:40:36 PM
+1 Kokjo

As less robust miners drop out, the difficulty will go down, thus making it more profitable for those who remain.

The network will find an equilibrium, and it will be very much survival of the fittest (or most efficient).
2171  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help with my new 6970's? on: July 29, 2011, 08:36:42 PM
thanks Deepdown....I will send it tonight.

One other question to anyone who knows:  Dikidera said that Crossfire decreases performance?  Can anyone confirm this?  And if I take off the crossfire connectors, will Windows still recognize all 3 GPU's? 

I have had trouble in the past with multiple cards being found. 

THANKS! 
2172  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How much of an advantage.... on: July 29, 2011, 07:22:53 PM
Hence the scare quotes around free.

I am not stealing anything....I have been given permission to utilize the infrastructure. 

If anyone has anything constructive to add in terms of competitive advantage, I am all ears. 
2173  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help with my new 6970's? on: July 29, 2011, 06:56:39 PM
Thanks everyone. 

Deepdown, I would like to shoot you a donation for helping me out.....you got me an extra 500 MH/s (I have a LARGE farm).  Give me an address if you like. 
2174  Other / Beginners & Help / How much of an advantage.... on: July 29, 2011, 06:53:09 PM
Is "free" power over time?  I am lucky enough to have access to copious amounts of electricity that cost me nothing, and figure I could run at least 10,000 MH/s before running into any limitation.  All climate controlled, secure, and wired up the hilt. 

I am just wondering if anyone has done the math. 

2175  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help with my new 6970's? on: July 29, 2011, 04:42:07 PM
Where do I choose which kernal to use within GUIminer?  I found the flag no problem (thanks!), but am struggling with the Kernal.

Thanks all. 
2176  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help with my new 6970's? on: July 29, 2011, 02:54:55 PM
I am using GUI miner......is that part of the problem? 
2177  Other / Beginners & Help / Help with my new 6970's? on: July 29, 2011, 02:27:55 PM
I just built a new rig last night with 3x6970, and I would like to ask for some assistance.

I have the 3 GPU's successfully set-up in crossfire config, windows finds them all just fine, and GUI miner is doing its thing with all 3.

My issue is with over-clocking and MH/s.  I am always seeing on this board that 400+ MH/s is the standard for 6970's.  Unfortunately, all I am getting is about 360.  I am clocking them at 910 MHz at the moment, as anything over that and I usually end up with a frozen machine.

Anyone have some experience with getting a stable overclock that could lend some advice?  I would like to get up to 950 Mhz, then maybe I could get the magical 400 MH/s per card.

THANKS!!

Win7 pro 64 bit
sempron CPU
4 GB ddr3 RAM
1000 watt PSU
ASrock MOBO
2178  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Long term bitcoin mining perspective on: July 27, 2011, 06:54:56 PM
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_Hardware_Comparison

that is a start.....and figure 250-300 for a good MOBO/CPU/PSU combination if you dont have a spare PCI express slot open. 
2179  Other / Beginners & Help / Deepbit efficiency? on: July 27, 2011, 06:38:40 PM
Just something I noticed:

I recently switched from using the same login for all 16 of my miners to using seperate workers.  I seem to be getting a 10% bump in my average MH/s rate after the switch. 

Has anyone else seen this?  Is there a rational explanation? 
2180  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Long term bitcoin mining perspective on: July 27, 2011, 06:36:41 PM
I will be curious to see how many people begin dropping out when the difficulty passes 2,000,000.  It could prove a boon to people that have cost advantages over other miners. 
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