Of course Earth is flat. How can you say otherwise?
Only the Sun and Mo_On revolves around the Earth.
No i think your face is flat cause i never see it, sent me some photo, idiot. Astronot already confirm it earth is round/Globes  I hate to be the one to tell you but NASA is a traveling circus. Just saying but you didn't answer to my last post, it's a bit dishonest to ignore arguments when you know you are losing. Badecker also does it, have you photographed the dome yet? |
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Yeah, I guess you won't admit you lost, oh well. I guess badecker is just more intelligent that everyone else, he knows the proof for a soul but doesn't share it, he also knows god exists but never shares the evidence either. Maybe you are a god yourself badecker. The fact that you are aware of your awareness does not show you have a soul, it shows you have a brain, dummy.
From Dictionary.com: soul
[sohl]
noun
1. the principle of life, feeling, thought, and action in humans, regarded as a distinct entity separate from the body, and commonly held to be separable in existence from the body; the spiritual part of humans as distinct from the physical part.
2. the spiritual part of humans regarded in its moral aspect, or as believed to survive death and be subject to happiness or misery in a life to come: arguing the immortality of the soul.
3. the disembodied spirit of a deceased person: He feared the soul of the deceased would haunt him.
4. the emotional part of human nature; the seat of the feelings or sentiments.
5. a human being; person.
6. high-mindedness; noble warmth of feeling, spirit or courage, etc.
7. the animating principle; the essential element or part of something.
8. the inspirer or moving spirit of some action, movement, etc.
9. the embodiment of some quality: He was the very soul of tact.
10. (initial capital letter) Christian Science. God; the divine source of all identity and individuality.
11. shared ethnic awareness and pride among black people, especially black Americans.
12. deeply felt emotion, as conveyed or expressed by a performer or artist.
13. soul music.
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14. of, characteristic of, or for black Americans or their culture: soul newspapers. If notbatman's idea of density as gravity were correct, you would be approaching the gravity of a black hole.  Dude, the dictionary has definitions of all the gods too, does that mean they exist? |
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''THE COMPLEXITY OF THE UNIVERSE IS TOO GREAT FOR INDIVIDUAL CREATORS TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SOMETHING LIKE OUR UNIVERSE. THEIR TOGETHERNESS WOULD HAVE TO BE SO GREAT THAT THEY WOULD BE WORKING AS ONE.'' Nothing in your argument said anything about that, how did you determine that the universe is ''too complex''? Again, you are just making shit up, still a garbage argument. Tell me the math or evidence that shows the universe is too complex for individual creators to work together and create it. Rofl, let's see what you come up with now.
Any time you want to look at science and common sense, and come back with an answer that includes these, it might be worth responding to you. As it is, you are a joke. You can ask any doctor or researcher about the complexity of the universe. I wonder if you can even hear their answer. I already agreed with you, the universe is complex, your argument involves complexity. You said the universe is complex therefore the creator/creators have to be even more complex. As I said, even if we agree with that premise, how do you know it's not many creators? Then you said it's too complex to be created by many creators, why? How do you know that? How did you calculate how complex it is? As I said, you are not getting away with this one, sorry. Since you agree with me, where do you get your knowledge? Get away with what one? And going where, I wonder? If you drill a hole in a piece of wood, and af-newbie happens to have a screw too big for the hole, the screw won't fit. The two of you need to be acting as one regarding the hole and screw size if you want it to fit. How much more regarding the whole universe. Any group that makes something as complex as the universe would be required to work as one if they wanted the universe to work at all. Whatever God is made out of, be it many parts or just a single entity, regarding the creation of the universe, God is One God. '''Whatever God is made out of, be it many parts or just a single entity, regarding the creation of the universe, God is One God.'' Why? Because you say so? ''be it many parts or just a single entity'' I didn't say parts of a single entity but different entities. Nothing in your argument rules out the possibility of different entities, does it? You are not getting away this time, sorry |
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''THE COMPLEXITY OF THE UNIVERSE IS TOO GREAT FOR INDIVIDUAL CREATORS TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SOMETHING LIKE OUR UNIVERSE. THEIR TOGETHERNESS WOULD HAVE TO BE SO GREAT THAT THEY WOULD BE WORKING AS ONE.'' Nothing in your argument said anything about that, how did you determine that the universe is ''too complex''? Again, you are just making shit up, still a garbage argument. Tell me the math or evidence that shows the universe is too complex for individual creators to work together and create it. Rofl, let's see what you come up with now.
Any time you want to look at science and common sense, and come back with an answer that includes these, it might be worth responding to you. As it is, you are a joke. You can ask any doctor or researcher about the complexity of the universe. I wonder if you can even hear their answer. I already agreed with you, the universe is complex, your argument involves complexity. You said the universe is complex therefore the creator/creators have to be even more complex. As I said, even if we agree with that premise, how do you know it's not many creators? Then you said it's too complex to be created by many creators, why? How do you know that? How did you calculate how complex it is? As I said, you are not getting away with this one, sorry. |
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I am not interested in learning about Zeus right now. But thanks for the acknowledgement that you understand that God exists. After all, even though such wasn't the point of the thread, at least we can set that one aside for now. But since I am not going to bookmark this post, you'll probably deny that you understand that God exists somewhere in the future, and I'll have to go through convincing you about Him, again. Toodles. Thanks for acknowledging that Zeus exists. After all you wouldn't be here without him, he is everywhere. Don't do this badecker, you will go to hell if you believe in other gods, come to Zeus, the true god. I haven't acknowledged what you say I have. But through your saying it, you are confirming that you understand that God exists. So, let's get together and stamp out atheism, since we both know that God exists. We can save His description for other threads. Thanks for this post, you are showing you have knowledge of Zeus. You actually knew about Zeus well before you were born, your soul knew Zeus was real, you just stop believing in it because Zeus gave us free will. Please, comeback and you will be saved! |
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Thank you. Since you can't see evolution as you have said, and since everything that we CAN see, and that is CALLED evolution, can be explained by adaptation better, and since all the non-adaptation mutations that we see are destructive mutations, where is the evidence for evolution? For example. If you had never seen a house built, and someone took you into a house and told you that there were 2x4 studs in the walls, you might believe him. But you might want some evidence, first. So, he might get out his stud finder and tell you that it is showing you where the studs are by finding the nails that hold the paneling on. You might respond with the idea that those are simply anomalies in the wall that the stud finder is finding. How does anyone prove that there are studs in the wall? You tear the paneling off, and then you can SEE the studs, for a fact. Somebody, please come and tear the "paneling" off the "wall" of anthropology/geology/history/etc. so that we can SEE the actual evolution "studs" in the wall. Until you do this, all the evolution talk is, well, just talk. Of course, since you can find many reasons why evolution is impossible - all you have to do is Google "impossible evolution" - that's why you can't find any evolution. Evolution is a hoax. If you believe evolution exists, you are making it your religion. Why you don't use your "studs" analogy to find the evidence of God? You only try to discredit scientific facts by your "show me the money" mantra, and in the process you just show that you don't understand evolution, one tiny bit. Why don't you ask your god to come out of the "walls" and show himself, for crying out laud? Why is your god so shy? He created the universe he can type, can't he? Ask him to post here and we all can move on. You are kinda off topic, there, bud. But we'll let it slide this time, because through being off topic, you are admitting that you agree that... Evolution is a hoax. Hmm, ignoring your own argument I see... Classic badecker. His brain probably got scared for 1 second here but quickly his delusion took over and had to ignore your post, af_newbie. |
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Ok, first of all stop making shit up. ''but were Christians before conception'' Nothing in the bible says anything about you knowing about god before being born.
If you are just going to fabricate everything, there is no point in arguing with you about anything.
I think that you can find with a tad of research, that I haven't made it up. But even if I had, so what? I mean, you talk about the evolution fiction. So why can't I talk about the soul fact, even though you might call it a fiction? You simply like to be in control. Why not start by controlling your own soul a little? As for the Bible not saying this stuff, I don't know that such is true, that it doesn't. But when you bring Bible into it, are you talking religion? Or are you simply picking on the Bible as much as you can? Or am I the one you are picking on? I mean, since you don't really have answers, you seem to like to pick on people. That's the trademark of a troll. Science has proven that God exists, and operates all things via cause and effect. So, the soul was put in place via C&E just like everything else. The question is when. Since the soul is very complex as shown by the fact that it outmaneuvers the brain and mind at times, it is logical to say that God put it in place before the brain and mind. Use your head for something besides a hair rack a little, and see that if I am talking erroneously, at least there is way more to what I say than just fabrication. Religion is simply the mind trying to get back to the position of the things that the soul understood before conception. What's the evidence for a ''soul''? I have a ton of evidence for evolution and so do 99.99% of scientists and most religious people actually accept evolution as a fact. What do you have? You are the one saying someone who wasn't even born has knowledge of god, I ask you where is the evidence, you give me this paragraph of horseshit, give me the evidence or admit you lost the argument. As I have shown in the evolution hoax thread, all your evolution evidence is just talk. It has nothing to back up that what is seen is evolution and not something else. And, a simple Google of "impossible evolution" shows why evolution is just dream talk. As for the soul and spirit, the proof is the fact that you are aware of your awareness. All you need do is check the definitions in dictionaries and encyclopedias. The fact that you are using higher reasoning to determine that what I say is horse****, shows that you are attempting to talk away your very soul and spirit which are directing your mind to make such a judgment. Yeah, I guess you won't admit you lost, oh well. I guess badecker is just more intelligent that everyone else, he knows the proof for a soul but doesn't share it, he also knows god exists but never shares the evidence either. Maybe you are a god yourself badecker. The fact that you are aware of your awareness does not show you have a soul, it shows you have a brain, dummy. |
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''You are kinda messed up if you think that car builders can all work independently and sort of accidentally come up with parts that fit together in the same car.'' Who said accidentally? I said different creators working together. Stop making shit up. THE COMPLEXITY OF THE UNIVERSE IS TOO GREAT FOR INDIVIDUAL CREATORS TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SOMETHING LIKE OUR UNIVERSE. THEIR TOGETHERNESS WOULD HAVE TO BE SO GREAT THAT THEY WOULD BE WORKING AS ONE.
The word ''god'' is a made up word. Many things are defined as ''creator of the universe'' You have a ton of gods that fit that definition. Do you know Zeno from dragon ball? He also fits the definition, he is the creator of all the universes, I guess I could say Zeno did it because it fits the definition right? THIS TOPIC IS NOT ABOUT THE DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF GOD. IF SOMEBODY HAS A DEFINITION OF GOD THAT FITS THE SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN GOD, MORE POWER TO HIM.
Unfortunately even then, it's wrong because what definition does it fit? THE SCIENTIFIC DEFINITION THAT I HAVE BEEN SHOWING YOU. As previously mentioned nothing in your argument rules out the possibility of different entities creating the universe just like a lot of people work together to build a house or a car and YES they have to work together but they don't have to be one. THE COMPLEXITY OF PROJECT UNIVERSE, WHICH COMPLEXITY WE ARE ONLY BEGINNING TO FIND OUT ABOUT A TAD.
''There is nothing other than intelligent design that we have as an example for the kind of complex operation that makes up what the universe is all about. '' Intelligent design =/= a god. It just means it has to be more complex and very intelligent. AGAIN, THE COMPLEXITY IS THE COMPLEXITY OF THE UNIVERSE... SOMETHING WE HAVE ONLY BEGUN TO DISCOVER THE DETAILS OF.
Still a garbage argument, as I said, you are not getting out of this one.
Now don't be demeaning yourself by calling your thinking "garbage argument" like that. You are a pretty good thinker. But when are you going to recognize that you are doing yourself a disfavor when you won't recognize the scientific proof for God as you have been doing? ''THE COMPLEXITY OF THE UNIVERSE IS TOO GREAT FOR INDIVIDUAL CREATORS TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SOMETHING LIKE OUR UNIVERSE. THEIR TOGETHERNESS WOULD HAVE TO BE SO GREAT THAT THEY WOULD BE WORKING AS ONE.'' Nothing in your argument said anything about that, how did you determine that the universe is ''too complex''? Again, you are just making shit up, still a garbage argument. Tell me the math or evidence that shows the universe is too complex for individual creators to work together and create it. Rofl, let's see what you come up with now. |
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Nope, they all have a ton of evidence behind them and are normal examples of evolution, you can find hundreds. All of them with evidence and proof. You can see it in humans, there are plenty of fossils of our ancestors. https://hastyreader.com/anagenesis-cladogenesis/All of these are documented facts, you are just delusional.
Dude, the amount of disinformation... I never thought that people could really believe these things...
I mean, it's all there, you just have to learn how to understand certain principles and use different tools such as statistics, mathematics, biology, physics (etc..), and you will be able to understand so many things. You will also realize how little you previously knew and wonder how much more knowledge there is that you do not possess..
But why would you do all that boring work and study these things for years to get the understanding you need when you can just google some attractive, mystical conspiracy subjects and theories for 2 hours and feel like you understand and know everything.
A single evolution mutation in a plant or animal would not be large enough to be noticeable without microscopic examination. The before and after animals would be essentially the same. Any plant or animal in the fossil record that is considered to be a missing link, would have to have thousands or millions more missing links before it and after it, to become the missing link that it is considered to be. These missing links are not available or visible in the fossil record anywhere. If you change evolution theory so that you don't need all these missing links, then you would find easily recognized evolution changes all over the place today outside the fossil record, in everyday life. The fact that adaptation explains all the so-called evolution evidences better, along with a fossil record that has no missing links, shows that ... Evolution is a hoax. Evolution happens over a period of hundreds of thousands even millions of years. Every generation of a species mutates "a little" as you mentioned and there's no noticeable way to see it (without DNA analysis) but when you take, lets say, a thousand generations the first and the thousandth generation are so much different from each other (since every generation is a little bit different than the previous) you get 2 different species. Those species (distinct species, not just 2 generations that came 1 after the other keep that in mind) are considered links in a chain of evolution. Now, where is the line that separates 1 species from another, in which generation does 1 species become another I don't know. that question you need to ask someone who's more specialized in the field. If you don't understand these simple things how can you claim evolution is a hoax lol.. It's as if I said "hey man the gods are angry" each time there's thunder just cose I can't understand or am not educated enough to understand whats really going on. Knowlege is power, man, I wish more people realized that. Badecker is delusional, he doesn't understand because he doesn't want to. He will keep repeating the same garbage without ever doing any real research on the matter. In fact he doesn't even realize that he is proving evolution with some of his arguments. |
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Ok, first of all stop making shit up. ''but were Christians before conception'' Nothing in the bible says anything about you knowing about god before being born.
If you are just going to fabricate everything, there is no point in arguing with you about anything.
I think that you can find with a tad of research, that I haven't made it up. But even if I had, so what? I mean, you talk about the evolution fiction. So why can't I talk about the soul fact, even though you might call it a fiction? You simply like to be in control. Why not start by controlling your own soul a little? As for the Bible not saying this stuff, I don't know that such is true, that it doesn't. But when you bring Bible into it, are you talking religion? Or are you simply picking on the Bible as much as you can? Or am I the one you are picking on? I mean, since you don't really have answers, you seem to like to pick on people. That's the trademark of a troll. Science has proven that God exists, and operates all things via cause and effect. So, the soul was put in place via C&E just like everything else. The question is when. Since the soul is very complex as shown by the fact that it outmaneuvers the brain and mind at times, it is logical to say that God put it in place before the brain and mind. Use your head for something besides a hair rack a little, and see that if I am talking erroneously, at least there is way more to what I say than just fabrication. Religion is simply the mind trying to get back to the position of the things that the soul understood before conception. What's the evidence for a ''soul''? I have a ton of evidence for evolution and so do 99.99% of scientists and most religious people actually accept evolution as a fact. What do you have? You are the one saying someone who wasn't even born has knowledge of god, I ask you where is the evidence, you give me this paragraph of horseshit, give me the evidence or admit you lost the argument. |
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''If you deny the evident soul and spirit'' Show scientific proof that ''the evident'' soul exists. I haven't seen any so far but of course, inventing stuff to complete your argument is easy. I can do it too. Zeus is in fact the real god, however Natas, another god became corrupt and it's now trying to convince people like you that the real god is the god from the bible, only those with a strong soul can ignore him, you have a weak soul and he convinced you easily. If you deny the evident soul and how evident Zeus is then it simply shows how much Natas corrupted you. Start by looking at the definitions and descriptions of soul and spirit in the dictionaries and encyclopedias. The fact that you say "I" or "I am" is your soul and spirit recognizing such, that you, yourself, exist. This isn't the thread for deciding which God is the real God, is it? If you are trying to suggest that one god is real, and another isn't, just to prove that none of them exist, why don't you say such? If you don't say what you are trying to suggest, people might start to think that you are espousing some god as the real god. Natas corrupted your soul, you aren't the one talking right now, it's your corrupted soul, I don't think there is a way back for you. The real god is Zeus, look up the definition of Zeus. I am not interested in learning about Zeus right now. But thanks for the acknowledgement that you understand that God exists. After all, even though such wasn't the point of the thread, at least we can set that one aside for now. But since I am not going to bookmark this post, you'll probably deny that you understand that God exists somewhere in the future, and I'll have to go through convincing you about Him, again. Toodles. Thanks for acknowledging that Zeus exists. After all you wouldn't be here without him, he is everywhere. Don't do this badecker, you will go to hell if you believe in other gods, come to Zeus, the true god. |
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This really nice project. if I can join this campaign I will be glad. I just need to know what is the process to join Twitter bounty campaign.
Use the google form to join, it's simple, you only have to tell us your twitter followers and use a twitter audit. |
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Remember: DO NOT EDIT OLD POSTS, I WILL NOT BE CHECKING THOSE. EVERY WEEK YOU HAVE TO MAKE A NEW REPORT.
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You can replace Yahweh with god in my argument if you need to. You obviously mean Yahweh when you say god, as far as I know you don't believe in Zeus, you said plenty of times you believe in the god from the bible.
nothing in your argument indicates what caused the universe. Just that it had to be more complex. ''If this isn't enough, throw in the machine nature of the universe, and the fact that machines have makers, and the proof becomes super-solid.'' Redundancy, this would prove that the universe has a maker, I already agreed with that statement, so what? Machines have makers, the universe is a machine? Fine, lets say it is, the universe has makers then, so what, again? How do you know it's only 1 maker and it's a god? How do you know it's not many creators and how do you know they are gods? Your argument does not say they have to be gods, it just says they/it has to be more complex than the universe.
Again, your argument is meaningless.
There you go, again, trying to turn this thread into a religious thread. If there was not a oneness to GM, the parts of all the cars would never fit properly. So, even if GM is made up of many people, they are all one when it comes to the making of working automobiles. The universe and laws of physics are way more complex than GM. God is One, even if He is made up of many entities. You keep saying god though, but again, nothing in your argument indicates it's a ''god''. Your argument says machines have makers, plural. The universe could easily have makers too then. ''the parts of all the cars would never fit properly'' Because you say so? Is that how it works? You just make up stuff along the way to fit your argument? ''they are all one when it comes to the making of working automobiles.'' No they aren't. Just like a few people can build a car, they are not one, they are many, someone might be responsible for the engine and someone else for the windows, your argument is garbage. Rip badecker. You will not comeback from this no matter how hard you try lol You must have skipped a bunch of grades in school. You are kinda messed up if you think that car builders can all work independently and sort of accidentally come up with parts that fit together in the same car. The word "God" fits by definition. If there are connotations to that word that you don't like, use some other word(s) that work for you better. There is nothing other than intelligent design that we have as an example for the kind of complex operation that makes up what the universe is all about. ''You are kinda messed up if you think that car builders can all work independently and sort of accidentally come up with parts that fit together in the same car.'' Who said accidentally? I said different creators working together. Stop making shit up. The word ''god'' is a made up word. Many things are defined as ''creator of the universe'' You have a ton of gods that fit that definition. Do you know Zeno from dragon ball? He also fits the definition, he is the creator of all the universes, I guess I could say Zeno did it because it fits the definition right? Unfortunately even then, it's wrong because what definition does it fit? As previously mentioned nothing in your argument rules out the possibility of different entities creating the universe just like a lot of people work together to build a house or a car and YES they have to work together but they don't have to be one. ''There is nothing other than intelligent design that we have as an example for the kind of complex operation that makes up what the universe is all about. '' Intelligent design =/= a god. It just means it has to be more complex and very intelligent. Still a garbage argument, as I said, you are not getting out of this one. |
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Still makes no sense, I don't think you really understand my argument. Me and af_newbie are totally different, sure we both don't believe in god but our reasons are different and we experienced life differently. Sure someone from Islam might become a christian but how often does that happen? once a year? THE POINT IS THAT IT IS MUCH HARDER TO CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY IF YOU ARE BORN A MUSLIM AND IT IS NOT FAIR FOR THE KIDS WHO ARE BORN MUSLIMS. How hard is it to understand the argument?
Makes perfect sense. The Christian religion isn't trying to simply convert Muslims for the first time. Rather it is trying to convert Muslims who were not Muslims, but were Christians before conception, and who threw it away by listening to Muslim parents... back to Christianity again. This is the deeper meaning of the shepherd who left the 99 sheep on the hill, and went off to find the lost one. The lost one was Christian before, but became Muslim (or some other religion). Christian development is before conception and during the 9 months in Mommy's tummy. However, since you are so blind that you can't even realize that it is your soul or spirit - the "I am" part of you - that is allowing you to carry on a reasoning discussion, how are you ever going to understand faith before conception. No wonder it is beyond your scope of thinking. Look into dictionary and encyclopedia descriptions of soul and spirit to see that the deep kind of reasoning done by people, is not done outside of the soul or spirit. Ok, first of all stop making shit up. ''but were Christians before conception'' Nothing in the bible says anything about you knowing about god before being born. If you are just going to fabricate everything, there is no point in arguing with you about anything. |
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''If you deny the evident soul and spirit'' Show scientific proof that ''the evident'' soul exists. I haven't seen any so far but of course, inventing stuff to complete your argument is easy. I can do it too. Zeus is in fact the real god, however Natas, another god became corrupt and it's now trying to convince people like you that the real god is the god from the bible, only those with a strong soul can ignore him, you have a weak soul and he convinced you easily. If you deny the evident soul and how evident Zeus is then it simply shows how much Natas corrupted you. Start by looking at the definitions and descriptions of soul and spirit in the dictionaries and encyclopedias. The fact that you say "I" or "I am" is your soul and spirit recognizing such, that you, yourself, exist. This isn't the thread for deciding which God is the real God, is it? If you are trying to suggest that one god is real, and another isn't, just to prove that none of them exist, why don't you say such? If you don't say what you are trying to suggest, people might start to think that you are espousing some god as the real god. Natas corrupted your soul, you aren't the one talking right now, it's your corrupted soul, I don't think there is a way back for you. The real god is Zeus, look up the definition of Zeus. |
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You don't seem to really understand what you are saying. Let me break it down for you.
''My faith changes according to my choice'' Your choice to believe in god or not relies on external knowledge, you can't simply believe in god without any knowledge of anything, since everything else is not determined by you, your faith isn't really yours. God put you where you are, god decided that you will be born in that country at that time and everything else that surrounds your life was decided by god, your only free will is to use those occurrences and believe or not in God, problem is that everyone is different, we are all born in different places, have different lives and it's not fair to ask a muslim born kid to believe in your god, obviously for a kid born into a christian country and a christian family it's much easier. God is either not fair, stupid or doesn't exist, since he cannot be unfair or stupid the only option is that he doesn't exist.
You don't seem to understand that among your assumptions are: 1. "Your choice to believe in god or not relies on external knowledge;" 2. "you can't simply believe in god without any knowledge of anything;" 3. "your faith isn't really yours." Once you realize that you are stating these things without knowledge that they are true, you will realize that everything else you say falls apart. You are retarded. How do you choose to believe in god or not if you don't know anything about god, answer that, you idiot. Do you have an identity? When you say "I" meaning yourself, is there really something there? Tell us there isn't, and we will consider your posts the grinding of a broken computer, and we will have logical reason to not respond any longer. Or tell us there is, and then explain this thing that all of science is having trouble finding - the soul or spirit. We know that everything that we understand operates through cause and effect. But the soul and spirit not things, even though we name them like we name things (just so we can talk about them). They don't necessarily operate by cause and effect entirely. The soul and spirit, having come from God, know about God in their own way, which is not necessarily the same as mental knowing entirely. That's why the soul and spirit can have faith in God or against Him. Everybody knows of the existence God from the standpoint of his soul or spirit. Now for the faith in Him... or faith against Him. If you deny the evident soul and spirit, this simply shows that you have a long way to go in your consideration of things. ''If you deny the evident soul and spirit'' Show scientific proof that ''the evident'' soul exists. I haven't seen any so far but of course, inventing stuff to complete your argument is easy. I can do it too. Zeus is in fact the real god, however Natas, another god became corrupt and it's now trying to convince people like you that the real god is the god from the bible, only those with a strong soul can ignore him, you have a weak soul and he convinced you easily. If you deny the evident soul and how evident Zeus is then it simply shows how much Natas corrupted you. |
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Those are examples of suggested evolution by novices and scientists who wish that they were examples of evolution. They are inconclusive regarding evolution. But they are not inconclusive regarding being simple adaptation. Nope, those are examples of evolution and you can't debunk them so you type simple sentences so your brain doesn't stop working. It happens all the time, your brain has a defense mechanism, it will not accept being wrong and it has to ignore these arguments. They debunk themselves right in their own language. In what way? you might ask. In the way that the language is full of things that haven't been proven, and often don't make any sense, or are incomplete, or lack facts to support them. All you have to do is track down all the statements in every example to its base, and you will come up with circular references, or dead ends. Evolution is a hoax. Nope, they all have a ton of evidence behind them and are normal examples of evolution, you can find hundreds. All of them with evidence and proof. You can see it in humans, there are plenty of fossils of our ancestors. https://hastyreader.com/anagenesis-cladogenesis/All of these are documented facts, you are just delusional. |
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''Why do you think that someone who is born without an arm would want to be or would not want to be born without an arm?'' You are just trolling now, god according to the bible made us using his image, meaning 2 arms, unless you are mentally ill you know having 2 arms is better than having one. That's why I know anyone would want to be born with both arms yet they aren't, just like everyone would want to be born healthy and not have cancer or some rare disease.
''So, praise God for life if nothing else.'' Would you want to live with a rare disease that causes you extreme pain since you are born and kills you in 15-20 years after you are born?
God is a sick bastard, our free will is meaningless because being here is not fair, someone born into a christian country will have much more chances to believe in god than someone who isn't.
Is that why you want 6 or 8 arms? I used to think that you are trolling, but the further you go shows that it must be inbred willing ignorance. Life is a battle in some ways. You are continuing to prove it. So, life in the midst of a dread disease is a conquering of that disease. And death is a killing of that disease, while death believing in God is eternal life in perfection. People are winning, but unbelievers are losing. You are the sick critter. Why? Because you freely ask for death and destruction (even though you could change), but blame God that you so ask. I like your ramblings but they are absolutely useless to what I said. God is not fair. ''someone born into a christian country will have much more chances to believe in god than someone who isn't. '' Just like someone born with a disease and killed in 10 years because of it will have less chances to believe in god than someone who lives 70 years. It's simple logic and you can't even accept that. Someone whose soul accepted being born in a non-Christian country before he was conceived, has made his choice from a faith-in-God standpoint. The fact that God increases faith according to what a person learns, doesn't really have any bearing on anything. Consider. You have had training in God-religion. And so has af_newbie. But you both wound up being unfaithful. Alternately, there are many people who have converted from, say, Islam to Christianity. All it is, is God carrying out the things of your free will faith for you, because you could do nothing without God carrying it all out for you through cause and effect. Still makes no sense, I don't think you really understand my argument. Me and af_newbie are totally different, sure we both don't believe in god but our reasons are different and we experienced life differently. Sure someone from Islam might become a christian but how often does that happen? once a year? THE POINT IS THAT IT IS MUCH HARDER TO CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY IF YOU ARE BORN A MUSLIM AND IT IS NOT FAIR FOR THE KIDS WHO ARE BORN MUSLIMS. How hard is it to understand the argument? |
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