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2161  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: July 26, 2014, 07:09:23 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeroenakkermans/

Lot of photos from MH-17 crash site.

This German journalist is thorough. Good.

He's Dutch. Jeroen Akkermans works as a correspondent for the Dutch TV channel RTL. He's stationed in Germany, but also covering Eastern Europe.

Oh, isn't RTL German:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTL_Television

Googling...
There seems to be a Dutch RTL as well Smiley
2162  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: July 26, 2014, 06:55:37 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeroenakkermans/

Lot of photos from MH-17 crash site.

This German journalist is thorough. Good.
2163  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: July 26, 2014, 06:46:31 PM
And for the notice, the ones putting more pressure over EU are the former Soviet-ring states now EU members; Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and so on. Not USA or UK.
Don't know what the Russians did there, but those guys don't fancy Russia much.

Well, in Latvia and Lithuania USSR built a strong industrial and agricultural complex. These republics had the highest living standard in the whole of USSR, and even people from Moscow travelled to Riga or Vilnius as if to "the West". It's all gone now, of course. On the dark side, after the annexation of the Baltic states, Stalin did some forced peoples relocation, forcefully moving Latvians/Lithuanians to Russia and other Republics, and Russians to the Baltic republics, often giving only a couple hours to collect your belongings. Both peoples were victims.
2164  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: July 26, 2014, 06:40:54 PM
Ukrainian Air Defense Exercises Might be Behind Malaysian Aircraft Crash – Source
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140725/191242509/Ukrainian-Air-Defense-Exercises-Might-be-Behind-Malaysian.html

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MOSCOW, July 25 (RIA Novosti) – A system mix up during a Ukrainian air defense units’ rocket launch exercise could be the cause of the Malaysia Airlines crash in southeast Ukraine, a source from one of the Ukrainian defense departments told RIA Novosti.

“On July 17 the commanding officer of 156th Anti-Aircraft Regiment was instructed to conduct a training exercise of ground troops stationed near Donetsk, which involved deploying the troops, and carrying out a routine tracking and destroying of targets with the Buk-M1 missile,” the source said.

The source added that the actual launch of the rockets was not intended.

Two Sukhoi Su-25 combat aircraft on a reconnaissance mission participated in the exercise. It is likely at some point, the routes of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 and a Su-25 jet overlapped. Despite flying at different levels, they became a single dot on the radar of the missile system. Of the two, the system automatically chose a larger target.

The reasons for the actual missile launch taking place remain unknown and are still under investigation, as practical exercises with the Buk missiles has been prohibited since 2001, when a Russian Tu-154 passenger airplane en route from Novosibirsk to Tel Aviv was shot down by the Ukrainian military.

This article suggests that the MH17 crash was due to Ukraine doing a military exercise with their SAM launchers in the Donetsk area. Which is pretty silly. Donetsk is in the heart of the area controlled by separatists. Why on earth have your military conduct surface-to-air missile exercises right at your enemies doorstep, an enemy that doesn't even have any air presence. The notion of conducting such an exercise, one that is irrelevant to the current conflict practically in the combat zone is absurd.

It's funny how Russian media keeps spinning new tales. It's a classic media tactic, throw out enough different stories that eventually the target audience (primarily the Russian people) won't know what to believe anymore and will doubt anything, including the truth.

Applies equally well to the Western audience and the way Western MSM work. Or should I say, Western MSM report a predefined blame story within seconds of an accident, without any proof, and then stick to that story regardless of what new evidence turns up?

As for "spinning new tales". It's called reporting new information as it becomes available. If you read the story carefully, it mainly benefits the Ukrainian government and their handlers in the USA. It gives Ukraine and USA a retreat route, writing it off as a regrettable accident. The information also comes from Ukraine, so I am taking it with a certain degree of scepticism.
2165  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sanctions against Russia spark AK-47 buying frenzy in US - Sanctions be good on: July 26, 2014, 06:21:00 PM
i agree they are out of control, and it's sometimes hard to figure out how bad the US is compared to russians.

At the least Russians are honest, they want to take over someone they do it. They don't play proxy influence wars. Or murder people on other side of the world...
That is exactly what they are doing. They are supplying money, training, and weapons to the seperasts. They are not admitting to doing this, but it is well known that they are.

I beg to differ. Even if Russia helps the freedom fighters, which is nothing but speculation, they are helping Russians living on the land that was exclusively a part of Russia prior to 1917 and wasn't technically another country until 1992, to defend themselves from an invasion, with the residents of said land voting at a referendum of 1993 against split of USSR and being split from Russia, and again during a referendum of 2014 voting for independence. That's not "the other side of the world", as done by another country that we all know of. This is a big difference.

Is AK-47 intellectually protected?

Who is gaining the most? Russian IP or American weapon manufacturer?

It's not intellecually protected as far as I know, the gun originates from communistic times, 1948,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-47

It all depends if IzhMash factory took a copyright on it. I cannot find any info about it.
Here is the factory's website. The US embargo is basically targeting this factory:
http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/trade/
2166  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 26, 2014, 05:24:17 PM
Evidence of Kiev Using Phosphorus Bombs Should Influence World Community – Diplomat
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140725/191299541/Evidence-of-Kiev-Using-Phosphorus-Bombs-Should-Influence-World.html

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MOSCOW, July 25 (RIA Novosti) – Russia’s evidence that Kiev has used phosphorus bombs against civilians should force the international community to put pressure on the Ukrainian authorities and make them stop the punitive operation in the country’s east, Russian diplomat Konstantin Dolgov said Friday.

“This information should help prompt the world community to influence Kiev in putting an end to the punitive operation. The result is numerous casualties among the civilians,” the Russian Foreign Ministry’s Special Representative for Human Rights, Democracy and the Rule of Law wrote on Twitter.
2167  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: July 26, 2014, 05:23:05 PM
What about the black boxes? Is there any info that might have leaked out about their contents and the fate of the MH17 since they had been taken to the Netherlands? Didn't hear anything new about them so far.

Netherlands delivered them to UK for decoding. And UK is the main cheerleader of US' bashing of Russia, so no much hope for getting the truth from now on. Malaysia is under pressure from the West to start condemning Russia, but are holding out and remain level-headed in their statements.
2168  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Federation under Ukrainian bombs. on: July 26, 2014, 05:17:11 PM
Russia shelled again!

Russia Initiates Case into Purposeful Attack from Ukraine on Investigators
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140726/191309461/Russia-Initiates-Case-into-Purposeful-Attack-from-Ukraine-on.html

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MOSCOW, July 26 (RIA Novosti) – A case has been initiated into the attack on the members of Russia’s Investigative Committee, it was targeted fire with intent to kill law enforcement officers, the committee’s spokesman said.

"The team of investigators, which included a number of members of the Russian Investigative Committee units, came under massive mortar attack. The investigative bodies of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation in the Southern Federal District have opened a criminal case," Vladimir Markin said in a statement.

...

Moscow condemned the attacks, saying that such provocations could have irreversible consequences.
2169  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine's prospects for future on: July 26, 2014, 04:21:09 PM
If anyone wants to leant how gas subsidising worked over the years, and how Ukraine all the times asked for more, read the following article:
http://stanislavs.org/the-third-gas-war-eu-and-us-must-pay-for-their-successes-in-ukraine/

In a way, Ukraine reminds me of the old woman from Pushkin's fairy tale "Fisherman and the Golden Fish":
http://fairytales.biz/alexander-pushkin/fisherman-and-the-golden-fish.html

2170  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sanctions against Russia spark AK-47 buying frenzy in US - Sanctions be good on: July 25, 2014, 09:51:49 PM
Just read a blog that expands the "sanctions be good" line of thought. Smiley

What happens when Latvia sanctions the most popular Russian singers...

http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/07/25/war-on-all-fronts-mcdonalds-may-be-booted-out-of-russia-latvia-bans-russian-superstars-why-did-yatsenyuk-resign/
2171  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The media manipulation how far back does it go on: July 25, 2014, 09:03:11 PM
One of the first successful media manipulations of the public was performed by Napoleon prior to invasion into Russia in 1812. Napoleon can be said to have been the first media magnate, consolidating control of most of the French newspapers in his hands, while closing a number of those that didn't want to go along. The pattern set by Napoleon has been refined, but in reality it's still the same at its core.
2172  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 25, 2014, 08:56:17 PM
Ukraine used phosphorous incendiaries, cluster bombs against cities – Russian military
http://rt.com/news/175572-ukraine-phosphorous-cluster-evidence/

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According to the general, the Russian military are certain of a number of such attacks by Ukrainian troops. Those include artillery shelling with incendiary shells on June 12 in Slavyansk, on June 24 and June 29 in Semyonovka and on July 7 in Lisichansk. There were also air strikes with incendiary bombs on June 21 in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk and on July 23 in Donetsk and shelling with cluster shells on June 24 in Semyonovka.
2173  Other / Politics & Society / Sanctions against Russia spark AK-47 buying frenzy in US - Sanctions be good on: July 25, 2014, 08:37:54 PM
Sanctions against Russia spark AK-47 buying frenzy in US
http://rt.com/usa/175652-kalashnikov-sanction-gun-sales/

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Russian-made firearms are reportedly flying off the shelves of American gun stores after the United States Treasury Department announced sanctions last week against the maker of the popular AK-47 rifle.

And Russian stocks are up after the European sanctions.

Sanctions be good.  Grin
2174  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: July 25, 2014, 08:15:27 PM
Ukrainian Air Defense Exercises Might be Behind Malaysian Aircraft Crash – Source
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140725/191242509/Ukrainian-Air-Defense-Exercises-Might-be-Behind-Malaysian.html

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MOSCOW, July 25 (RIA Novosti) – A system mix up during a Ukrainian air defense units’ rocket launch exercise could be the cause of the Malaysia Airlines crash in southeast Ukraine, a source from one of the Ukrainian defense departments told RIA Novosti.

“On July 17 the commanding officer of 156th Anti-Aircraft Regiment was instructed to conduct a training exercise of ground troops stationed near Donetsk, which involved deploying the troops, and carrying out a routine tracking and destroying of targets with the Buk-M1 missile,” the source said.

The source added that the actual launch of the rockets was not intended.

Two Sukhoi Su-25 combat aircraft on a reconnaissance mission participated in the exercise. It is likely at some point, the routes of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 and a Su-25 jet overlapped. Despite flying at different levels, they became a single dot on the radar of the missile system. Of the two, the system automatically chose a larger target.

The reasons for the actual missile launch taking place remain unknown and are still under investigation, as practical exercises with the Buk missiles has been prohibited since 2001, when a Russian Tu-154 passenger airplane en route from Novosibirsk to Tel Aviv was shot down by the Ukrainian military.
2175  Other / Politics & Society / Re: World War III... Is it about to Happen? on: July 25, 2014, 08:07:59 PM
US pulling out its Cold War-era plans over Ukraine conflict, top commander admits
http://rt.com/usa/175596-dempsey-ukraine-cold-war/

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The United States military’s top commander said during a security summit this week that the ongoing crisis in eastern Ukraine has prompted the Pentagon to revisit old contingency plans unused since the days of the Cold War.

Now, seeing as US started the whole bloody (literally) mess in Ukraine, they simply showed now that they were itching to play with those plans again...
2176  Other / Politics & Society / Re: grahamwphillips.com on: July 25, 2014, 08:05:37 PM
RT contributor Graham Phillips deported from Ukraine, banned for 3 years
http://rt.com/news/175676-ukraine-deport-rt-contributor/

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The SBU said that the official reason for the deportation was the threat Phillips presented to "state security, sovereignty and territorial integrity" of Ukraine.

That's the price for not going along with the lies, and telling the outside world the truth. At least he is alive.
2177  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: July 25, 2014, 02:37:00 PM
This is getting interesting. Looks like a pretext for intervention that is MH-17 has worked:

Armed Australian police to deploy to MH17 crash site
http://rt.com/news/175444-armed-police-ukraine-mh17/

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A multinational force that has been proposed to further secure the MH17 crash site in eastern Ukraine will now include some 100 armed Australian police personnel, shortly after 40 unarmed Dutchmen had been deployed to “further stabilize the area.”

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At the time, the Dutch PM refused to comment on whether the Netherlands and Australia are in talks to draft a new UN Security Council resolution to allow armed personnel into Ukraine. This appears to be changing.

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Meanwhile the flight recorders, transported to a UK lab, have been unsealed and their memory copied for analysis. The inspection revealed no evidence of tampering with the devices, which may be crucial for investigation, the Interstate Aviation Committee reported on Friday, an international body tasked with investigating all civil aviation incidents in most of former Soviet Union.
2178  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 25, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
HRW blames Kiev army for indiscriminately killing civilians with missiles
http://rt.com/news/175484-hrw-rockets-killed-civilians/

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The Ukrainian army is using indiscriminate Grad missiles to attack densely populated areas in Donetsk, which violates international humanitarian law, Human Rights Watch alleged. It also blamed militia for taking cover in those areas.

The rights organization confirmed four rocket attacks by the Ukrainian military, or Kiev-allied paramilitary, on residential areas in or near Donetsk, which resulted in at least 16 civilian deaths and many more wounded. The attacks were carried out with Grad multiple rocket weapon systems, highly indiscriminate weapons that cannot be used against populated areas.

2179  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why so many planes crashing/disappearing recently? on: July 25, 2014, 02:01:42 PM

In second case, they wanted to save money on petrol and didn't want to change route of the plane.
this was tragic mistake.


There is one problem there. If that plane followed its normal Southern route over Azov Sea, it would have been fine. The Ukrainian ATC instructed it to deviate much further north and assume a lower altitude. And then SBU confiscated the ATC tape recordings. Not even after the KAL-007 downing over the Sea of Japan were the tapes confiscated, which allowed later investigators to find recorded communication with the plane from Narita, Tokyo up to 46 minutes after its supposed shootdown over Sakhalin. It seems that this time such blunder will be avoided by doctoring the tapes, if ever they get released at all.
2180  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Where would you prefer to born if you were born at another era? on: July 25, 2014, 12:20:12 PM
As narrow as North-America and Northern Europe. (And Australia, that everyone forgets about, it being somewhere on the underside of the world.)

Is it? The funniest thing is that even other places improved a lot. People tend to compare to those who are better to feel miserable, but if you born 100 years ago at Russia you would be in deep shit compared to Russia today...

That may be so, when you compare Russia today, with Russia, torn by Civil War in the aftermath of WWI and coup d'etat/revolution. However, Russia of 1900, with blooming industrialisation, was better than Russia/Soviet Union of 1914-1950, so development can tack steps backward. For example development took a huge step backwards for Iran/Persia or for Iraq.
I think I'd like to visit the mid-1700's Russia, the time of Lomonosov.
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