Wont they get into trouble openly developing this sort of thing?
They will be targeted for harassment by the goons of current fiat monopoly competitors. Looking at you paypal.
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Retirement? Real moneymaker NEVER retires. There is always joy in making more money, not only in spending it.
Sure, if you want to spend your entire life as a Human Doing. Some people prefer to live as a Human Being, as nature intended.
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So what would you do if we refuse to give up our property to you? You don't own the property, and neither do I. You have the illusion of ownership because you have control over it. You have control over it because some men with guns will kill for you if you show them a paper. Control enforced through systematic violence, that's the reality of capitalism. The only reality. Everything else is in your head. You still don't get it, your cup is too full. The point is compassion. This isn't rocket surgery. Until there are no more starving people on this continent, every strip mall should be bulldozed and every parking lot torn up so food can be grown. This should be done whether the capitalist "owners" like it or not, because, you know, people are fucking starving. Fuck your property. People are dying so some rich assholes can get a little richer. Your system is disgusting. There may come a time when a mob of hungry people must face off against some capitalist and his hired thugs... well we know which side of that fight you'll be on, and we know which side I'll be on.
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When bitcoin will have a complete worldwide adoption the price won't be 1500$ but 150000$ or more.
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so why not join an anarcho-communist society where you can all share everything? "Your Honor, years ago I recognized my kinship with all living beings, and I made up my mind that I was not one bit better than the meanest on earth. I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." - Eugene DebsYou can't change the system from outside the system. I'm doing good work here, in the belly of the beast. What, did you think posting on this forum is all I do for humanity? You make too many assumptions.
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Regardless of how he view bitcoin, he does get it right when he said bitcoin is a confident game. So is the dollar, and every other currency in the world for that matter. Actually, thinking about it, bitcoin is the only form of money with mathematically provable reason to have confidence in it. Every fiat currency is predicated on "it's complicated, you wouldn't understand. Just trust us."
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I think we all know where you stand. But if you stop and think for awhile, would it be morally right you to take property from someone that doesn't share your views? "taking" implies ownership. One who doesn't believe in property rights doesn't concern himself with "taking" or "owning". Only "using" and "surviving".
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Bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme. Sorry you bought at 750, but sit and hold like the rest of us. Be patient, it will go up.
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No coercion here - or here. Just people taking control of the wealth that was rightfully theirs all along. Call it communism, socialism, anarcho syndicalism etc etc - it doesn't really matter - its the future. "The US (capitalism) is predicated on violence" - Don King said that, and he knows a thing or two about violence . Wether he was referring to the slave trade or the colonists seizure of the native americans land, I'm not sure. Either way, land is the source of all wealth, and you and I have next to zero of it. Don't kid yourself that you are "classless and clever and free" just because you run a business that turns over £70k a year - you have fuck all, just like the rest of us. By contrast, the native americans had everything - but then they had a very different idea of "ownership" than that the likes of you and I have been embued with. Indeed We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children.
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So... your version would be the same thing, but you would allow cars and computers. Keep putting words in my mouth, really strengthens your argument. "We feel free because we lack the very language to articulate our unfreedom" -Slavoj Zizek, Welcome to the Desert of the Real, 5 essays on 9/11
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Everyone of these anarcho-communist places sounds like Amish communities to me. Ditto, because they are amish. These people are clearly anti-technology. They don't allow cars and it sounds like they don't have much in the way of computers, either. Everyone of these anarcho-communist places sounds like Amish communities to me. Ditto, because they are amish, without the god fixation. These people are clearly anti-technology. They don't allow cars and it sounds like they don't have much in the way of computers, either. It's a bunch of hippies living on a farm. So because I'm anarchist I have to live an 18th century lifestyle, InBitWeTrust? I call bullshit.
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No one is forcing you to use money and to participate in capitalism. Within twinoaks you aren't forced to work as a capitalist and receive "dirty money". Read the website. Every member is required to work 42 hours per week. Sounds like a job to me, and given the work produces goods that are then sold outside the community in exchange for, you guessed it, money - that's capitalism. They give you $25 per week spending money, so it's also FAR below minimum wage. Sounds like an exploitation farm to me.
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These people are no more free of capitalism than you or I. They have a hammock making and furniture making business, every member of the community works 42 hours each week. If they cannot sustain a certain income, they stand lose everything. As I said, you ask me to build a ship, but I already swimming.
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Thanks for proving my point once again. You are in a very unique position to actually attempt to fulfill your utopian dreams unmolested by state interference and yet you refuse to
You know nothing of my life, you know nothing about what "position" I am in. Furthermore, you ask me to build a ship, while I am already swimming in the middle of the ocean. You are a fool, and undeserving of the honor of debating me.
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It is theft to me.
Call it what you want -- it involves threats backed by guns and jails and taking away what someone earned on their own to give it to someone else.
This is socialism... this is what the OP said he changed from.
I have yet to hear an Anarcho-communist or socialist explain how their form of consensus decision making doesn't ultimately involve violence and theft. I have yet to see a version of capitalism that doesn't involve systematic hierarchy-based violence on a massive scale, rampant hideous corruption, starvation associated with global food waste, exploitation and loss of human dignity, sex slavery, and worldwide environmental devastation. At least with anarchism there will be a living planet left for our grandchildren to inherit, to say nothing of the other ills caused by the profit motive. Let's take the lesser of two evils, eh?
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Define boom.
$2000+ at least, probably $3000+ at peak
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How easy is it to kill Bitcoin? At this stage?
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its always been about accumulating as many bitcoin as you can, as fast as you can.
since day one.
Yep.
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