Freenet is a distributed data store that users a lot of encryption to protect it's users, I don't think it could really be called a darknet.
.onion services reside inside the tor network and traffic destined for them never leaves the tor network, therefor never goes through any exit nodes.
I2P does not have exit nodes built into the system ,but some people do provide this service. Generally while most people use Tor to browser the internet with some anonymity, I2P users tend to have various services that run over I2P (such as file sharing).
Both Tor and I2P support hidden services(Tor), or eepsites(I2P) which are essentially websites which are hidden inside either the Tor or I2P network, if done correctly (not the easiest thing to do) it makes it very difficult to find the physical location of the server that the website is running from.
This is why TheSilkRoad is still able to operate despite being a fairly high profile target for the DOJ.
Which is more secure, Tor or I2P? I don't know, with regard to hidden services/eepsites they both work more or less in a similar manner, however I've not heard of any sites like SR on I2P, and therefor the I2P network has not been as tested as much (in terms of law enforcement trying to catch site operators).
Code wise, I2P is written in Java, Tor is written in C (I think), I don't think it makes much of a difference, both are already fairly mature systems.
Possibly the size of the network may also be taken into account, a larger network means more security if you're trying to hide in the crowd. If this is the case the Tor is more secure simply because more people use it.
You can have FREENET sites and its very secure. Is there any chance we could have TOR and I2P mirrors Nefario. It may attract more users due to them having better Anonymity and also means the GLBSE could still operate if the www version was attacked by hackers or governments. |
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Who else thinks its a good idea to have a darknet (I2P or FREENET) mirror of the GLBSE?
why not .onion (Tor)? I think I2P and FREENET are more secure but wouldn't hurt to have a mirror on all three? and i think you don't know anything about it... I'm no whitehat hacker but I've studied Software and hardware engineering as a undergraduate. I do honestly believe every Tor exit node could be monitored by "Echelon" I2P doesn't use exit nodes in the same way and if you look at FREENET that is a much more secure darknet than Tor. My two satoshi worth anyway. exit-nodes have nothing to do with the internal .onion. exit-nodes are only used when you are accessing the normal internet, and are therefor not used in the tor darknet. your argument is irrelevant, to the darknet part of tor. Anyway you probably do know a lot more about Tor than me and I'm also for a .onion site can we please stay on topic. |
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Who else thinks its a good idea to have a darknet (I2P or FREENET) mirror of the GLBSE?
why not .onion (Tor)? I think I2P and FREENET are more secure but wouldn't hurt to have a mirror on all three? and i think you don't know anything about it... I'm no whitehat hacker but I've studied Software and hardware engineering as a undergraduate. I do honestly believe every Tor exit node could be monitored by "Echelon" I2P doesn't use exit nodes in the same way and if you look at FREENET that is a much more secure darknet than Tor. My two satoshi worth anyway. exit-nodes have nothing to do with the internal .onion. exit-nodes are only used when you are accessing the normal internet, and are therefor not used in the tor darknet. your argument is irrelevant, to the darknet part of tor. Internal traffic from Tor is feed to end users via exit nodes. That's why there is a warning when you set up a exit node that the traffic your relying could be illegal and get you in trouble. There is no such problem with I2P and FREENET while being a lot slower looks the most secure option. |
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Who else thinks its a good idea to have a darknet (I2P or FREENET) mirror of the GLBSE?
why not .onion (Tor)? I think I2P and FREENET are more secure but wouldn't hurt to have a mirror on all three? and i think you don't know anything about it... I'm no whitehat hacker but I've studied Software and hardware engineering as a undergraduate. but did you read the code? i have not studied shit, but IMHO tor are the most secure, because it have the most clean and stable code. and also as nafario said, freenet is just a anonymous and secure distributed data store, and would therefor not be the best choice for a request-response based system. I am not a software or network security expert by no means but I spoke to a couple and they both said I2P is more secure than Tor but smaller so more vulnerable to attack at the moment. I only studied C, Assembler, VHDL and Verilog at a basic level but the fact Tor relies on a set number of known exit relays shows me they could all be easily monitored and/or blocked. |
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I don't know about freenet (which is a distributed data store), but Tor has lower bandwidth capacities than I2P.
There wouldn't be any point in offering I2P or Tor access except to allow users to access via those networks.
Maybe use it as a secret backup option?
Yeah it would offer users better anonymity using the site to make sure you aren't being monitored and would be a very good secret back up in case of attack ect. |
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Who else thinks its a good idea to have a darknet (I2P or FREENET) mirror of the GLBSE?
why not .onion (Tor)? I think I2P and FREENET are more secure but wouldn't hurt to have a mirror on all three? and i think you don't know anything about it... I'm no whitehat hacker but I've studied Software and hardware engineering as a undergraduate. I do honestly believe every Tor exit node could be monitored by "Echelon" I2P doesn't use exit nodes in the same way and if you look at FREENET that is a much more secure darknet than Tor. My two satoshi worth anyway. |
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Who else thinks its a good idea to have a darknet (I2P or FREENET) mirror of the GLBSE?
why not .onion (Tor)? I think I2P and FREENET are more secure but wouldn't hurt to have a mirror on all three? and i think you don't know anything about it... I'm no whitehat hacker but I've studied Software and hardware engineering as a undergraduate. |
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Who else thinks its a good idea to have a darknet (I2P or FREENET) mirror of the GLBSE?
why not .onion (Tor)? I think I2P and FREENET are more secure but wouldn't hurt to have a mirror on all three? |
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Who else thinks its a good idea to have a darknet (I2P or FREENET) mirror of the GLBSE?
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Buy?? MINE!
If you can offer a better deal than Intersango £ exchange I'll buy £10 worth. |
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Is the weekend the best time to buy bitcoins? I've lots of people say the price dips a bit at the weekends. Should I wait until Saturday or Sunday to buy my small amount of bitcoins from Intersango or does it not matter really?
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I think you will only be taxed via capital gains tax for any bitcoins that you convert to cash as there is no tax on bitcoins (or gold in the EU just capital gains of the cash made from selling gold)
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I think in the UK it would come under "capital gains tax" I reckon so you only pay ~18% after £10,600.00 or about of capital gains. So you would have to make more than £10,600.00 to offset your tax.
Yes the UK the land of 50% tax for top earners but only 18% for the 1%.
Edit: In the US you have even more loopholes for the rich than the UK so you should all be laughing?
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So can I sleep well keeping 90%+ of my BTC life savings in it, or it may be advisable to scale down a bit just in case of a flock of black swans?
BTW: I see that you have a super-hero status and much respect from the forum, but as far I know you remain anonymous and GLBSE does not seem registered under any jurisdiction (and: there are other operators running it? What happens if you end under a bus?). If I tried to explain this to my friends or wife they would probably think I am sort of stupid to let my monies flow between anon internet entities.
I have Nefario on my personal Facebook and pictures of his wife  Just to be clear, those are facebook pictures of my wife, nothing inappropriate; Mathew you make it sound so dirty. I apologise if my post instigated anything else (must be your perverted mind) but she is very pretty  |
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So can I sleep well keeping 90%+ of my BTC life savings in it, or it may be advisable to scale down a bit just in case of a flock of black swans?
BTW: I see that you have a super-hero status and much respect from the forum, but as far I know you remain anonymous and GLBSE does not seem registered under any jurisdiction (and: there are other operators running it? What happens if you end under a bus?). If I tried to explain this to my friends or wife they would probably think I am sort of stupid to let my monies flow between anon internet entities.
I have Nefario on my personal Facebook and pictures of his wife |
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At a generous 20 cents per kWh and a formidable athletic 200 watt power output, with no efficiency loss, you could earn 4 cents an hour, or 0.008 BTC.
but for busy gyms with >2GH/s a bike may work or as a home sale unit for fat bitcoiners |
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100W is ten Sparten6 or 2GH/s.
100 Watts is enough to power a Butterfly Single! 80W = 1xBFL-Single = 0.8GH/s 80W = 8xSparten6 = 1.6GH/s |
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While it is a cool idea, the cost of the equipment does not pay for the electricity generated. I think it is worse then solar unless you can get the equipment manned by above average athletes all of the time.
On the other hand, building equipment such as bikes that power themselves is usually worth it. They take little power and a tiny generator can be enough to power the unit saving a power cord and the hassle of that cord for the club.
While it would be so complex it would not be worth it, using the power of exercise gear to move HEAT directly (heat pump style) would bring greater efficiency. In the summer running the bike would drive a compressor and fan and pull heat out of the club. In the winter reverse it. Still not worth it but cool.
The average guy in a bike makes 100-200 watts of continuous power , tour de france riders can do 500w continuous.
100W is ten Sparten6 or 2GH/s. |
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I have photographs of the finished hardware but can't share them until the new FPGA company goes public. I think the software took them longer to finalise then they first thought and that accounts for the delays over the last two weeks. Also if we had stuck with the BFL plan well they are still four months behind on their orders and it was only just over two months we originally ordered a BFL-Single so would probably have at least another month if not two months to wait for one of those. Like I said board #1 will ship this Wednesday/Thursday and board #2 two weeks later then board #3 (taking the weekly dividend to over 0.0040BTC per share) as soon as we have raised the funds. If another FPGA company that others similar prices for hashrate and at least twelve months warranty (x6500's[more expensive]) can offer us quicker shipping at that time then we may look at them instead. Hey maybe you aren't a scammer, but what proof do you have that you aren't being scammed yourself by the guy making these? Also, would it kill you to use a little bit of punctuation in the middle of your sentences? Jeez. The person I am sourcing the board from is a long time hero member of this forum but wishes to remain anonymous until their project is finalised. I am also taking pre-orders for him at 1BTC commission until they go public to confirm your order on batch #2 first before anyone else. Sorry about the prose but I am dyslexic and was never really taught much in English lessons at school other than the alphabet (but have studied maths such as matrix manipulation and Fourier Transforms as a undergraduate). |
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I have photographs of the finished hardware but can't share them until the new FPGA company goes public. I think the software took them longer to finalise then they first thought and that accounts for the delays over the last two weeks. Also if we had stuck with the BFL plan well they are still four months behind on their orders and it was only just over two months we originally ordered a BFL-Single so would probably have at least another month if not two months to wait for one of those. Like I said board #1 will ship this Wednesday/Thursday and board #2 two weeks later then board #3 (taking the weekly dividend to over 0.0040BTC per share) as soon as we have raised the funds. If another FPGA company that others similar prices for hashrate and at least twelve months warranty (x6500's[more expensive]) can offer us quicker shipping at that time then we may look at them instead. |
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