rechnet ihr mit dem Eröffnen der Banken in Zypern, mit einer großen Kurssteigerung?
Wenn die in Zypern ebenfalls so reagiern wie die Spanier...
Waren das denn nun wirklich die Spanier? Außer einem erhöhten Download von Bitcoin-Apps gibt es dafür, glaube ich, keine Belege. Und was bringt einem der Download einer solchen App? Ich habe sowas noch nie benutzt. Ich meine, wer tradet denn ernsthaft mit dem Handy? Du kannst auch andere Sachen mit Bitcoin machen als diese zu traden.... Wenn du in einem der (sehr wenigen) Echtwelt-Läden bezahlen willst, ist so ein App super. |
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Schön, dem gönn ich den Erfolg um einiges mehr als diesem schmierigen Gebrauchtwagenhändlerverschitt von BFL.
Toll zu sehen, dass es mit Asicminer und Avalon die "echten" Entrepreneure zuerst geschafft haben.
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LOL
I think this pizza will make it on the news several times for the years to come.
Bitcoin owes Pizza and Laszlo big Time.
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It has to hurt the people who profited from this mess, too.
No. It has to hurt the people who are *responsible* for the mess and those who chose to take risks. Agree, that's actually what I meant. However, it can not be that other now pay the profits that where generated by that risks. Still on this bank accounts massive interests where paid, backed by those risks. A full bailout would also mean to bail out the money generated by those interests. A bail out with money from people that didn't receive those interests. How is that better? |
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You formed a union with your neighbors to work within a single financial system and a single currency. You are all mismanaging it together so you should all pay together. Not only because you all caused the problem together (so you deserve to share the loss), but because if any of you go down you all go down. You don't have to like each other, you just have to keep each other afloat when things get bad. If you didn't want to pay for things like this then you should not have set up such an insane arrangement in the first place.
The agreement hardly was you can make investments as risky as you want and we gonna bail you out. Again, I know that all Europeans are in this mess together and that there is no other Option than to bailout this Banks. I have no problem with the actuall bailout ( no more than any other one here that is). The only problem that I have is that my Tax-money is used to bail out this States and know when I look for news about this States I see this:    And that just pisses me off. Where are the Burning bankster puppets? Where is the Caricature of the Cyprian Financial Director (or who ever is in charge there)? |
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The argument I see Germans making is that Germans shouldn't have to bail out other people who work with the same monetary system as them because Germans aren't responsible for anybody but Germany. That is socialist nationalism. If the Cypriots were German then yeah, they would bail them out, but they are from Cyprus so the Germans won't bail them out. It is socialist, but only applying to people within Germany, which makes it nationalist as well.
No the argument is that Germans should not have to pay the profits people made by putting their money into (indirectly) into high risk investments. You understand the words high and risk, do you? Cyprus Banks paid outrages interest rates compared to other European banks. Due to their high risk investments and all depositors provided from this. Why should German Taxpayers pay this? Wow and the nazi club, did you came up with this all by yourself? Cause this is brilliant, seems to always work against Germans. Come on, I never called you a Nazi. That's ridiculous. As far as why you should pay, I'll reiterate: You formed a union with your neighbors to work within a single financial system and a single currency. You are all mismanaging it together so you should all pay together. Not only because you all caused the problem together (so you deserve to share the loss), but because if any of you go down you all go down. You don't have to like each other, you just have to keep each other afloat when things get bad. If you didn't want to pay for things like this then you should not have set up such an insane arrangement in the first place. Quoted me before I was finished: And gain: Nobody here in Germany says Cyprus should not be bailed out, everyone here knows that this is necessary and important. But Germany can't just bailout everyone. You are aware that Germany doesn't have this money. We have to lend it ourself and pay interests on it. It has to hurt the people who profited from this mess, too. |
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The argument I see Germans making is that Germans shouldn't have to bail out other people who work with the same monetary system as them because Germans aren't responsible for anybody but Germany. That is socialist nationalism. If the Cypriots were German then yeah, they would bail them out, but they are from Cyprus so the Germans won't bail them out. It is socialist, but only applying to people within Germany, which makes it nationalist as well.
No the argument is that Germans should not have to pay the profits people made by putting their money into (indirectly) into high risk investments. You understand the words high and risk, do you? Cyprus Banks paid outrages interest rates compared to other European banks. Due to their high risk investments and all depositors provided from this. Why should German Taxpayers pay this? Wow and the nazi club, did you came up with this all by yourself? Cause this is brilliant, seems to always work against Germans. And gain: Nobody here in Germany says Cyprus should not be bailed out, everyone here knows that this is necessary and important. But Germany can't just bailout everyone. You are aware that Germany doesn't have this money. We have to lend it ourself and pay interests on it. It has to hurt the people who provided from this mess, too. |
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Candoo, entferne die BTC Adresse besser wieder und gib jedem der mitmachen will eine eigene Empfangsadresse, sonst bekommst du morgen noch BTC an diese Adresse gesendet und endest mit einem Riesen "Cluster Fuck" wer jetzt noch wieder BTC zurück bekommt.
Wenn du erst mal 200 Transaktionen rein bekommen hast und 185 wieder zurück geben musst wirst du sehen was ich meine.
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Hallo zusammen,
ich habe eine eingescannte Kopie des Persos und des Führerscheins von Candoo erhalten.
Außerdem habe ich den Link zur Bestellbestätigung von Bitpay erhalten. Ich kann somit bestätigen, dass die Adresse auf dem Ausweis mit der Empfangsadresse des ASICs übereinstimmt und auch, dass ein AVALON bestellt worden ist.
Ich werde die Dokumente ausdrucken und die Mail löschen. Die Dokumente verwahre ich bis ich von der Mehrheit der Beteiligten ein OK zur Vernichtung bekomme. z.B. nach einem Jahr erfolgreichem Lauf des Projektes.
Dann würde ich auch den Ausdruck vernichten.
Ich fungiere hier sozusagen als Escrow. Sollte Candoo mit den erhaltenen BTC "davon rennen" würde ich die Dokumente für alle Beteiligten veröffentlichen.
Am Projekt selbst werde ich mich nicht beteiligen, bin also neutral.
Ich habe das Gleiche auch schon bei dem Avalon Gemeinschaftskauf von yxt gemacht.
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Denke auch, yxt sollte den das als beendet erklären und den Thread zumindest solange sperren, bis er sich durch alles durchgearbeitet hat.
Sonst wird das noch viel zu Chaotisch.
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....... Here a picture of our current prototypes:  I'm not sure how I feel about you offering sex toys here. No, that are umn.. a multi functional dowsing rods. Where dowsing meets fun. |
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Might be able to help, but I haven't done Matlab in about 3 Years.
Some details please.
Only Matlab, or also Simulink (I'm better with Simulink)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADE_651Just saw this on the news, if you throw one in with the hat and the dowsing rod, you got yourself a deal (Seriously though, there's a company selling these things) Thanks, due to the detailed description of mechanics of this device: The ADE 651 consists of a swivelling antenna mounted via a hinge to a plastic handgrip. It requires no battery or other power source, its manufacturer stating that it is powered solely by the user's static electricity. To use the device, the operator must walk for a few moments to "charge" it before holding it at right angles to the body. After a substance-specific "programmed substance detection card" is inserted, the device is supposed to swivel in the user's hand to point its antenna in the direction of the target substance. We are very positive, that we can modify our existing dowsing rods to add all the functionalities of this device. Our research department is nearly finished with the development, but thanks to the now increased sensibility of our dowsing rods we have encountered some new challenges. I don't want to bore you with technical details, but now they are oversensitive to cosmic gravity rays, wich causes them to malfunction at full moon. As soon as we have resolved this challenges we will ship our new ADE_3000 Dowsing rod at no additional cost. We also plan to make a trade in program for owners of our old dowsing rod. Here a picture of our current prototypes: |
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Ich denke es ist auch am einfachsten wenn man die Gesamtleistung der 3 Systeme nimmt und dann auf die Personen aufteilt. So haben auch alle die Sicherheit das wenn eine ASIC mal ausfallen sollte, der Ertrag p.P. weniger wird, aber dafür niemand komplett verzichten muss.
Denke auch, sonst rechnet sich yxt ja zu tode  *Habe meine 10 BTC auch überwiesen. |
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Einfach drüber installieren.
Eine Sicherung deiner Wallet solltest du so oder so immer haben.
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Also, I find you avatar greatly offensive.
I find merkel's proposal, to grab money from my current bank account and use it to pay country's debt, much more offensive. I don't blame German people, but I'll always blame villainous politicians. Still the point is that Cyprus bank accounts received up to 15% interest p.a.. On my Bank account I get 2% p.a. on the same currency. It can't be that we know pay for this outrageous interest rates that obviously just where made up. Such Interest rate are not risk free. Normally you only get them in High Yield Investment Scams and Ponzis. Oh wait, so that was what happened there. I don't approve of taking money from bank deposits, but Merkel does right in not just bailing them out. I would be outraged I my Taxmoney would just be used to bail out this Scams without asking for anything in return. Basically you where in a car accident where the driver of the other car fucked up and now you are blaming the Mechanic for charging you to fix your car. |
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So you are saying German Taxpayers should bailout Cyprus. And the people there should pay nothing at all.
Why should I pay for bailing out banks on a Island I never was before?
Also Cypriots received crazy interest rates on their account for several years. It's time people learn that interest earning is not risk fee. You get money for lending out money in the moment you put your money in an account it's not yours anymore.
Greek has already loaded every German indirectly citizen with additional debt and Cyprus will again. Yet I see no burning Cyprus Flags in German streets.
Blame this disaster on the Banks, but not on the people that pay the bill.
I think you tend to forget the big sales your country had in Greece and Cyprus, loan based of course, but I guess that was ok, right? Let's see you go without them now! You also tend to forget that the low price of your currency ie the euro is due to the piigs and cyprus. There is no other way to keep the euro low now the the US is printing dollars like crazy, since you northern countries want to claim that the euro is good wealth storage and hence can't print euros at will as well. Money will flee your banks if you do. Suppose piigs piigs hadn't gone bankrupt and germany had to sell products while 1 euro was 10 dollars or so!!! That would be an interesting picture! Also, you are getting hefty interest for the loans you gave to those countries, aren't you? Blame this disaster on the Banks, but not on the people that pay the bill.
Amen to that. But, can you tell who the people that are paying the bill are? Tend to interpret what people tend to much? So you are saying due to large sales German Companies supposly had in this countries German Taxpayers should just bail them out, no strings attached? Well, that will solve the problem once and for all. |
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Germany has just robbed and raped Cyprus. I don't see reason why should Cypriots stay with EUR as it will only put them in the abyss of further debts.
So you are saying German Taxpayers should bailout Cyprus. And the people there should pay nothing at all. Why should I pay for bailing out banks on a Island I never was before? Also Cypriots received crazy interest rates on their account for several years. It's time people learn that interest earning is not risk fee. You get money for lending out money in the moment you put your money in an account it's not yours anymore. Greek has already loaded every German indirectly citizen with additional debt and Cyprus will again. Yet I see no burning Cyprus Flags in German streets. Blame this disaster on the Banks, but not on the people that pay the bill. Also, I find you avatar greatly offensive. |
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Mail bekommen (direkt link auf die Bestellbestätigung von Bitpay, somit kein Fake möglich).
Die Adresse stimmt mit der Adresse auf dem Perso-Scan den ich bekommen habe überein.
Edit: Und ach ja, ich kann bestätigen, dass Avalons für 148,92 + 103,24 BTC tatsächlich bestellt sind.
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Überleg dir dass noch mal gut. Nicht dass ich dir davon abraten will. Fände es ja toll wenn das klappt, aber ich kenne das wenn einen die Euphorie überkommt weil so viel Interesse besteht.
Du hattest anfangs gesagt 2 Rigs wären dein Persönliches Maximum. Und willst du wirklich für Mining Equipment im Wert bald 20.000 € verantwortlich sein?
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