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221  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 21, 2018, 01:19:59 AM
Heres a look at the bcash chart

*snip*

blah blah blah trade at your own risk. Opinions are my own

dude, you have a dash masternode. obviously you hate bitcoin cash.

your analyzing a kraken chart of a 300k usd daily volume (literally the cost of a sale of 1 house in the USA).

its obvious that bitcoin cash will find a higher low and we arent there yet. we saw this around this time last year where it bottomed and found a new high. bitcoin cash is just over 1 year old and has way more merchant adoption/marketcap then Dash and (which is like 5 years older).
its still a much better built global p2p cash system. masternodes are literally an oligarchy. its not sustainable.

I did see the that dash billboard on the highway driving through caracas (not sure why considering mining is way more popular given the free electricity, a terrible investment for your masternode governance, its literally nicer than the nestle and polar billboards lol)

but still very happy to see that marketing.

My post had literally nothing to do with Dash.

Yeah, but your history is all in the dash fourm, including the masternode payout statistics. i just made the assumption. do you have a dash masternode? if so, your incentive is likely against bitcoin cash. hence the 'bcash chart'
222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 21, 2018, 12:41:10 AM
Heres a look at the bcash chart

chart

blah blah blah trade at your own risk. Opinions are my own

dude, you have a dash masternode. obviously you hate bitcoin cash.

your analyzing a kraken chart of a 300k usd daily volume (literally the cost of a sale of 1 house in the USA).

its obvious that bitcoin cash will find a higher low and we arent there yet. we saw this around this time last year where it bottomed and found a new high. bitcoin cash is just over 1 year old and has way more merchant adoption/marketcap then Dash and (which is like 5 years older).
its still a much better built global p2p cash system. masternodes are literally an oligarchy. its not sustainable.

I did see the that dash billboard on the highway driving through caracas (not sure why considering mining is way more popular given the free electricity, a terrible investment for your masternode governance, its literally nicer than the nestle and polar billboards lol)

but still very happy to see that marketing.
223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] PEEPCOIN / PCN: CLASSIC COMMUNITY, SINCE 2016 on: September 19, 2018, 07:30:03 PM
Does anyone from this community want to bring back this coin with me?
224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡[ANN] TOKENPAY ⚡ SCAMMED 1 MILLION $ FROM BOUNTY AND REFERRAL PROGRAM ⚡ on: September 19, 2018, 05:31:30 PM
Token pay is literally a copy paste of the Spectrecoin wallet with a much higher marketcap. Whoever handles their Twitter has no sense of development and very little class to represent something with a far too inflated marketcap. This is an example of a project that will not survive after the market crash. These ‘partnerships’ with the ‘Litecoin Foundation’ are of no relevance to anything other than buzzwords to trick the average investor.

Stay away from this scum of a project, these people belong in prison and have gone overseas to avoid so.
225  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 19, 2018, 05:23:02 PM
I like that Bitcoin Cach brings good money to the world, fulfilling Bitcoin's original promise as "Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cach" and continues to evolve.

Who gave you a merit??!

His mom
226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 19, 2018, 05:22:34 PM
So you say that MoneyToken used Roger Ver and Mate Tokey also ?

Why would they do this ?
Maybe they are friends with Steve Rubakh and Didi Taihuttu also

Roger Ver gives away millions of dollars and funds even the worse projects for the sake of bringing cryptocurrency into mainstream adoption. I don’t tunderstand why people attack him, after these markets crash, Roger will still be promoting what he believes is the best cryptocurrency to bring the most economic freedom to the earth (this is very arguably Bitcoin Cash) given scalability and tranasaction cost.

He will continue to promote nothing more then growth in the ecosystem. Stop trying to discredit Roger. His message has been the same since 2011 and it won’t change. It’s simple, consistent, and almost annoying how simple he has continuously pushed it.

Roger Ver is rich, he’s on Forbes top 40 under 40. he could retire today, even if bitcoin cash fails, he doesn’t care about making more money, he’s set for the rest of his life and one has to be ignorant to believe he’s a ‘scammer.’
227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 19, 2018, 03:51:05 PM






Looks like Roger is also very busy promoting many ICO projects
Investor at Ripple, Blockchain.info, Bitpay, Kraken...and now MoneyToken.

Just look at that adviser team:

Roger Ver
Mate Tokay
David Allen Cohen
Steve Rubakh
Didi Taihuttu


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38jY__33ujw

Another grammatically twisted narrative for association.

‘Adviser’ is amongst the loosest term in any Crypto related space.

It’s not Roger Ver promoting the project, it’s the project promoting their legitimacy through use of Roger Ver.
228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 19, 2018, 01:18:24 PM
I found one interesting article about BCH from Jörg Molt



Let’s talk about Roger Ver and BitMain with BCash – BCH

BitMain, as the biggest miner, was shaken in the confusion around SegWit from the so-called Asicboost scandal.

What’s it about? The AsicBoost

By overclocking some devices, Asic has managed to get 20 percent more power. This only maked sense, as long as SegWit was not activated.

 SegWit is able to double the transactions in a block, by removing the signatures, which are not necessary for proof of work.

 A miner however, lives from having the most power in the so-called hash process, and tries to gain advantages in the issuing of BitCoins. This is a random principle in the guessing process, so the probability of generating more results, with more guesswork, is obvious.

However, this 20 percent advantage will be neutralized by SegWit, since the upcoming Lightning network, which requires SegWit (because it only transports the signatures and no transactions), is unnecessary. Lightning can process up to 1 million transactions per second, on a signature basis.
 
So, if people are going through the Lightning network, because it only costs 20ct, they will have less transaction fees on their network, and the miner who finds the block, will get a total of 12.5 BTC. Thus, the cost is not covered.
 
These miners, with 20% more power, cost of course much more.

The scandal occurred because a newspaper revealed that these miners were only working with a certain group of people and were denied to the general public. Which led to a further imbalance in the network.

Due to the fact that Bitmain investors and major investors were disappointed, and threatened to leave Bitmain, there was only one option.

You make a new coin and bring it out with a token sale.


Roger Ver felt very fortunate to be able to revive the old BCU philosophy. And with the largest pool behind him, it was easy to get the majority for a HardFork.

The result we saw then in the formation of BCH. Now you need some trumpet politics to bring a coin out that is worthless, to a certain status.
 

So the true BitCoin was without SegWit and with original 8MB blocks. Roger Ver then moved his coins onto an exchange, which also fueled the illusion that he could turn his BitCoins into BCash.

What came next was another dilettante masterpiece. They forgot to set the Difficulty and so BCH had a block time of 10 hours at the beginning and it took a very long time to get it fixed. Investors lost a lot of value and BCH shot down in value.


Today what´s left is a stubborn community and development team. However, 55 percent of the hash power is in one group and they hold central control of the network.

Also, BCH can not be used as a means of payment – ergo a Blockchain with 8MB blocks in a central hand with no external effect. Pathetic for something which calls itsel the „true BitCoin“.

Luckily, it does not change the attitude of Roger Ver in favour of BitCoin or BCash, Fintec and old Moneysystems, and so in reality, he´s working on the dream of a free crypto society.

 
After the wildest rumours of hashing power and dumping on low transaction fees circulated on the internet, and the propaganda on Roger’s BitCoin.com blog, BCash currently has an overrated price bubble that can burst at anytime.

AltCoins and the future

You can see with the two coins SegWit2x and BCash, that AltCoins and FakeCoins only have a limited life span, as long as you keep the story going. But sooner or later, the story is no longer enough and investors start looking for something else, a new blockchain and a new coin that they can push. Ultimately, all the hype is for people to trade with Altcoins to buy more BitCoins, or making people pay for Fake Coins with BTC, so enabling the Fake Coin issuers to get their hands on more Bitcoin.

 
The price increase from January 2016 to the end of 2017 has caused enormous greed and an increase in scam companies.


Full article:

https://joerg-molt.de/news/the-truth-about-bch-scams-bch-transaction-costs-utxo/

This is the guy who wrote the article. He also claimed to be the ‘co founder of bitcoin’

https://twitter.com/kennethbosak/status/1042230010700914688?s=21

Try to trust this guy lol
229  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 19, 2018, 12:10:26 PM

https://youtu.be/mgmXi9C-kpY

Here’s a good convo with OpenBazzars Chris Pacia. He did a great critique on Jimmy Song’s recent arguments. I wholeheartly agree with his narrative. I’d also recommend the OpenBazzar marketplace, a great place to spend BCH.
230  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 18, 2018, 11:24:59 PM
@dkbitkit

This is literally a direct quote your last post, the article you continue to push as ‘legitimate’

Today what´s left is a stubborn community and development team. However, 55 percent of the hash power is in one group and they hold central control of the network

I’m well aware that csw, Roger Ver and Jihan Wu are not developers, More importantly they have MINING power. Seeing as bitcoin is capitalism, they’ve managed to compete fairly without being forced by centralization, and may the best win.




@sir splash a lot

I hope you are smart enough to understand English language and what I wrote:


So it was not 'my words' and I also provided link for this interesting article:
https://joerg-molt.de/news/the-truth-about-bch-scams-bch-transaction-costs-utxo/

btw I am not part of any sect or cult... BCH, SV, JW or any other,
and this BCH fight looks to me like some weird cult/sect inside fighting.
(Note: 'JW' is not Jehovah's Witnesses)


And I guess you think Dr Craig S Wright is 'legitimate'...as he claimed that he is 'THE Satoshi Nakamoto'
Any team must be happy to have him, and this coin must be 'The Coin'.







So you posted an article to attack BCH, but later you decided not to agree with the article you posted after realizing that based on the facts, the article was incorrect.

You’ll find yourself as nothing more than a December 2017 Crypto investor just chasing bears, catching daggers and hoping your Tone Vays subscription will pay for your BA tuition. you can continue to believe you are relevant in this space by taking out all your anger and posting in the Bitcoin Cash thread, where you spend more time failing disprove BCH, rather than supporting the BTC community. Your presence here shows fear. I love it. Once Bitcoin Cash crashes to 300usd we’ll have shaken out all the week hands that came with your group, and I’ll have a big fat bag open at the new Higher low.
231  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fe on: September 18, 2018, 06:55:09 PM
@dkbitkit

This is literally a direct quote your last post, the article you continue to push as ‘legitimate’

Today what´s left is a stubborn community and development team. However, 55 percent of the hash power is in one group and they hold central control of the network

I’m well aware that csw, Roger Ver and Jihan Wu are not developers, More importantly they have MINING power. Seeing as bitcoin is capitalism, they’ve managed to compete fairly without being forced by centralization, and may the best win.
232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 18, 2018, 01:23:10 PM
I found one interesting article about BCH from Jörg Molt
good read
Let’s talk about Roger Ver and BitMain with BCash – BCH

How many times is this fallacious article going to be posted in entire text to this thread? Even well-written articles are usually merely listed once, and that list is typically in the form of a link. Once. Link. Not many times, full text.

But that would be for well-written articles. This piece of garbage is chock full of lies, mistakes, slander, and invalid reasoning.

Give it up already.

BitcoinPsycho, Dkbit, Gembitz.

Do you guys actually own BTC or are you just worried about the liquidity of Buy support in BTC for your favorite altcoin paired with BTC on Cryptopia? I don't smell capacity in these sources, or those who would cite such.

Yes.
If you are talking about altcoins... No, I don't have any BCH altcoin at the moment.
Smart people sold all BCH as peer to peer cash at the moment of fork.

Good times...

I guess some people are hoping for similar scenario in upcoming 'Satoshi THE ONE True Vision', and other re-forks.







But you said BCH was ‘centralized’ despite this fight amongst development?
233  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 18, 2018, 02:32:36 AM
I found one interesting article about BCH from Jörg Molt
good read
Let’s talk about Roger Ver and BitMain with BCash – BCH

How many times is this fallacious article going to be posted in entire text to this thread? Even well-written articles are usually merely listed once, and that list is typically in the form of a link. Once. Link. Not many times, full text.

But that would be for well-written articles. This piece of garbage is chock full of lies, mistakes, slander, and invalid reasoning.

Give it up already.

BitcoinPsycho, Dkbit, Gembitz.

Do you guys actually own BTC or are you just worried about the liquidity of Buy support in BTC for your favorite altcoin paired with BTC on Cryptopia? I don't smell capacity in these sources, or those who would cite such.
234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think Bitcoin Cash will take place of Bitcoin? on: September 17, 2018, 02:07:09 AM
Altcoins have already started to grow, but I think that the outcome of their growth will be the price level no more than a couple of days ago. As long as the market does not come out with depression to try to swing the altcoins then Bitcoin - useless.

Bitcoin cash is not going to battle Bitcoin in any near competitive way because the coin is not a real coin.

Who decides what’s real, Your mom?
235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 16, 2018, 05:28:03 PM
Anyone who did not watch debate on CoinsBank cruise
with Roger Ver, Jimmy Song, and Tone Vays
can do it on this official video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkvZoaVHQV0

My conclusion is that we need to focus on adaption and tech improving,
not wasting time, fighting each other, and proving who is wrong‚ who is wright, who is THE REAL ONE,
and yelling like little immature kids ...

I don’t see a purpose for debate, they are completely different cryptocurrencies. One is peer to peer cash, and one is digital gold.

Btc is not meant for people who make less then 2$ a day.


If people would be payed in BCH it would be pure disaster !
WHY ?
Simple answer:
BCH lost almost 90% of its value



That means, instead of 2$ a day this man would  get 0,22$ in BCH !
 


That’s if you hold, not spend. The purpose of peer to peer cash is to spend, not hold. You are supposed to engage in commerce at price relevant to the dollar.
236  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 16, 2018, 05:25:18 PM
Quote
BCH is near 1 year old and is the fastest growing cryptocurrency in that span.

Since BCH just forked and copied original Bitcoin chain... and keeps stating that it is THE ONE... then it is older than 1 year.


It is fastest growing downwards  ⇘⇘⇘
- 89.26%



Bitcoin Cash literally has the fastest growing marketcap of any cryptocurrency. It ranks 4th and it’s only just over a year old. Most ‘December 2017’ Crypto enthusiasts, otherwise known as ‘the dumb money,’ don’t quite understand such facts. They simply hop on the btc train without understanding what’s best for the global commerce. These people don’t even own Bitcoin, they simply hold a Crypto that depends on BTC for liquidity in buy support because their cryptocurrency of choice only has BTC trading pairs.
237  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 16, 2018, 05:13:49 PM
Anyone who did not watch debate on CoinsBank cruise
with Roger Ver, Jimmy Song, and Tone Vays
can do it on this official video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkvZoaVHQV0

My conclusion is that we need to focus on adaption and tech improving,
not wasting time, fighting each other, and proving who is wrong‚ who is wright, who is THE REAL ONE,
and yelling like little immature kids ...

I don’t see a purpose for debate, they are completely different cryptocurrencies. One is peer to peer cash, and one is digital gold.

Btc is not meant for people who make less then 2$ a day.

just like gold is not for people who makes less than $2/day? Its not how much you make a day, its how you make the money and keeping up with the hard work consistently

I’m just quoting Samson Mow, the chief central authority of the github relevant to the company (Blockstream) that controls the fate of BTC’s development.
238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 16, 2018, 05:12:54 PM
Anyone who did not watch debate on CoinsBank cruise
with Roger Ver, Jimmy Song, and Tone Vays
can do it on this official video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkvZoaVHQV0

My conclusion is that we need to focus on adaption and tech improving,
not wasting time, fighting each other, and proving who is wrong‚ who is wright, who is THE REAL ONE,
and yelling like little immature kids ...

I don’t see a purpose for debate, they are completely different cryptocurrencies. One is peer to peer cash, and one is digital gold.

Btc is not meant for people who make less then 2$ a day.

If people would be payed in BCH it would be pure disaster !
WHY ?
Simple answer:
BCH lost almost 90% of its value




BCH is near 1 year old and is the fastest growing cryptocurrency in that span.
239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: September 16, 2018, 12:39:50 PM
Anyone who did not watch debate on CoinsBank cruise
with Roger Ver, Jimmy Song, and Tone Vays
can do it on this official video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkvZoaVHQV0

My conclusion is that we need to focus on adaption and tech improving,
not wasting time, fighting each other, and proving who is wrong‚ who is wright, who is THE REAL ONE,
and yelling like little immature kids ...

I don’t see a purpose for debate, they are completely different cryptocurrencies. One is peer to peer cash, and one is digital gold.

Btc is not meant for people who make less then 2$ a day.
240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think Bitcoin Cash will take place of Bitcoin? on: September 15, 2018, 10:34:09 PM
Who cares anyways? This forum is bots for airdrop incentive and likely bitcoin ‘December 2k17 enthusiasts’ who bought at an all time high and have no fucking clue how to putforthforth an argument rather than;

Lol bcash is btrash,
Roger very and Craig weight are scammers
And every other retarded brainless argument that’s been putforth here.

I wish we’d just shut Bitcointalk down already, it’s a cesspool of useless inflated content.

Someone create a bitcoincashtalk forum please.
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