I'm not sure how to deal with the moderation issue in a decentralized way. Any voting mechanism seems like it could be manipulated.
You got a point. There is only one way to make moderation decentralized. To appoint at least 3 moderators via bitcointalk poll voting. I do not think that it will be easy to manipulate with moderation, when another two persons are watching you. And there must be a possibility of removing a project from the database of anti scam website by presenting reasonable proofs to moderators. Anyway , we have to discuss this issue many times before coming to a final conclusion. But how can you avoid votes for the moderators being manipulated? Maybe it has to be done on a rolling basis, so one moderator is voted on every 6 months? That would also help maintain some continuity if only one can be changed at a time.
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I'm not sure how to deal with the moderation issue in a decentralized way. Any voting mechanism seems like it could be manipulated.
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Hiring a developer with a help of community and paying him via escrow is a good idea. Appointing mods via bitcointalk polls is a good idea too. But the most important thing is the rules of adding scam projects to that website. We must discuss that issue.
I agree with this. Is there a basic framework you've already identified for the site, or do you need the community to help figure this out as well. I think something along lines of a BBB site, where community members can contribute would be good. BBB has different categories of "issues", so we could have different categories of common scams. There should also be a mechanism or place for the company to respond or defend themselves and offer a resolution. Here's the BBB site for reference: https://www.bbb.org
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Hiring a developer with a help of community and paying him via escrow is a good idea. Appointing mods via bitcointalk polls is a good idea too. But the most important thing is the rules of adding scam projects to that website. We must discuss that issue.
I agree with this. Is there a basic framework you've already identified for the site, or do you need the community to help figure this out as well. I think something along lines of a BBB site, where community members can contribute would be good. BBB has different categories of "issues", so we could have different categories of common scams. There should also be a mechanism or place for the company to respond or defend themselves and offer a resolution.
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weird name but maybe by that name people would rather trust ico in this project. with total small dev supply maybe be a little hesitant to follow ico in this project
It's kind of funny...the name Scam Coin makes me curious to know what it's about. If they called it Anti-Scam Coin, I probably wouldn't have been as curious.
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I hope it's like a wiki style website where different people can contribute and it's moderated by the community to help keep it being overloaded by scammers.
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Many people did not enter because the campaign lasted so long, and everyone regrets. Most of the bounty collectors have already sold up to now, the real winners have been believers from the very beginning.
The campaign was very short. In fact, they sold out of all tokens during the pre-ICO, so there was no regular ICO.
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This is a pretty good way to give back to the community by helping build a website that can benefit everyone.
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Look at lendingclub... there is clearly a market for the middle-ground between active and passive investing.
Yes, but Atlant is much further along the active spectrum, so it'll be interesting to see how much demand there is for it.
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PPT price is the second best thing to wake up to in the morning
and what's the first thing?) You'll have to use your imagination. This is a family friendly place .
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I guess it is a bit hard competition between real estate projects. I haven't seen any really successful recently. But might that's only me?
Anyway good luck to your project
The real estate ICO projects that are currently out there are all fairly different, so can each target their own niche. It'll be interesting to see if many will succeed or if it'll consolidate into just a few platforms.
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PPT price is the second best thing to wake up to in the morning
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I hope I did this right: Message: This is panorama on bitcointalk.org - Dec 5, 2017 Address: 1LU5BKL7XQiMkye4nNGxSMD4Ur6Ln6B5Q2 Signature: H/YAcM/mTt0I3htV7MZJqNymDUiknYYArwITNjxcoTAYW89faqHcrZEWnzhXFAa+oRNf8rHMq5IauVBHTE+tJUo= Please quote and verify. Thanks in advance!
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Hello
I dont know if you realise that HVN is already a few steps in fron off Populus, regarding operating platform. Also has HUGE partnership made in Russia. PPL is only growing because of big hype, otherwise is just a bubble. Just my 2 cents.
Wish you all the best
The PPT team is so much stronger than Hive.
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Hi,
I ranked up to a Full Member and also added an avatar to my profile. Can you please update the spreadsheet?
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I see so much potential for this project
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I've placed a significant amount of my btc and ether profits into REAL tokens
With btc prices artificially pumped by bitfinex and tether, and the pending market correction, it is unreal how undervalued this project is
They locked in 3 million usd for their 5 year operating budget The remaining 32000 ether* raised either cashed in at a current price of 450 or 500, would equal 14,400,000 or 16,000,000 usd in CASH RESERVES alone lol
The current market cap of 3,500,000 is less than a quarter of their actual cash reserves - ridiculous!
Their team members have made huge fortunes selling companies, totalling over 200 million euros Idealista alone was sold for over 700 million euros They also did the right thing in lowering their operating budget to provide more capital for real estate investments
I certainly am not calling into question the integrity of members of their team, unlike people on this page Rather, I question the greed and impatience of speculators in this wash traded and unregulated ico market
Once the institutional investors short bitcoin through the futures markets and the bitfinex debacle gets aired all over mainstream media (which we have known for a good 6 months), regulations will come into place and solid projects like REAL will benefit
*. Please correct me if I am wrong - if the remaining ether stands at 31000, and with ether at 450 or 500, this would imply 13.95 or 15.5 m usd respectively
You're right. It's very undervalued based on the amount of ETH they hold.
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They mentioned in Telegram that there have been 650 people whitelisted for the presale so far. My sense is that's 650 is pretty good for the presale, but it's hard to say.
They are whitelisted, but still not surely will invest. That's true
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real estate is not such a complicated field. Certainly there's levels to understanding it but it basically comes down to one thing: will this property be more or less desirable in the future. I question the term expert when applied to real estate because it does not take much to assess the variables of buying a certain property and many people who would not refer to themselves as "real estate experts" have gotten rich simple by applying basic principles.
For example, if i look at property in nyc i know the population will continue to rise and that the closer you are to manhattan the better. These two realizations are enough reason to invest in most properties in brooklyn, and any person can come to this conclusion without being an expert. However, the barrier of entry is too high.
I'm saying there is a huge market for people to invest in real estate without consulting "experts." I dont need to go to anyone to know that brooklyn real estate prices will continue to rise and that downtown brooklyn will eventually become a commercial center like midtown.
I am interested in how Atlant would compete with other real estate platforms based on the blockchain, and what those platforms are. I think decentralization will ultimately be a plus side, not a downfall. Financing is an interesting point, and i doubt traditional financing will be available through atlant anytime soon.
What I'm most focused on is how atlant will relate to taxes. If a person is able to take large sums of money and buy property with atlant or even sell their property and not deal with taxes i can see it skyrocketing.
You're naive to think that experience doesn't matter. With respect to your NYC reference, did you know that properties in midtown are under a lot of pressure from Hudson Yards? Buying into a property on 52nd Street with Blackrock as a tenant might seem really attractive - unless you knew that they will be vacating. Speaking of Hudson Yards, did you know that they are getting $100+ psf rents, but having to give away a lot in concessions for it? Even if you knew all of this, how do you know what the right price is? Do you know what the average cap rate is in Manhattan vs the outer boroughs? You can just decide to "buy real estate in NY" and you might do just fine. But there's also a chance you might not. Atlant doesn't compete in a vacuum. There are other blockchain companies already out there working on competing platforms where investors don't have to figure this stuff out for themselves. Decentralization can be a good thing, but it has to be done right. I asked about taxes a while ago. It'll be up to the individual investors to figure out their own tax liability, but I wouldn't expect that you won't have any.
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