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221  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is garbage. on: December 10, 2017, 07:58:04 AM
Yep, definitely not garbage. not as right now. I dont see it.

It's not garbage but its been balkanized, neutered, and repackaged into something that even a mother wouldn't allow into her house.
222  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is garbage. on: December 10, 2017, 07:56:13 AM
It's Rawdog, he is a well known troll he likes to kick shit up and say dumb stuff. Just ignore him.

Fuck you.  That is total bullshit.  Even guys in this thread say the feel the same way.  That's not trolling buddy.  Just because someone says something against your personal feelings, it doesn't make them a troll.  

Satoshi Bitcoin, the real bitcoin, didn't have 1Meg blocks which totally fuck up the fees and MemPool.  1 Meg blocks are there just to drive demand for the Blockstream product 'Lightning'.  It's a scam, and you guys fell for it.  Thank god the people at Bitcoin Cash forked in time to forever get rid of that SegWit shit.  Now the chain has been preserved.  All you will come back to BCH when you finally figure it out that Blockstream is screwing you.  

Now go fuck yourself King Colon.

WOW I dig it, some truth telling on this FORUM, u normally just see like minded circle jerking, and bias confirmation that the we're in a world of shit, and nobody smells the shit.

Emperors New Clothing comes to mind with BTC, and nobody is allowed to say that the Emperor has Alzheimer and is a a zombie

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This is all the shake-out, eventually I concur it will be clear which is the correct coin,

IMHO BTC is for savings for rich ppl, it should not be used for day-trading or micro-transactions, but agreed all changes from satoshi are bullshit, these miscreants should have just written their own code from scratch, but stealing open-source and destroying it enables private profits,

SATOSHI didn't care about this enabling of certain company's, he was an anarchist,

Bring ANARCHY back to BITCOIN Roll Eyes
223  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / NOT Tulip or Ponzi - BITCOIN is the "South Sea Bubble" a Stock that went ASTRO on: December 10, 2017, 07:44:54 AM
Historically 'south sea bubble' is closer to BTC its a stock in offshore colonizing the new world and its stock like BTC went ASTRO for years, and anybody that questioned it was a pariah, just like now with BTC.

Even Issac Newton smartest man on earth at his time, inventor of calculus lost his fortune on this stock.
224  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ♨♨♨ Is Bitcoin A Giant Ponzi Scheme?♨♨♨ on: December 10, 2017, 07:42:09 AM
Typically, Ponzi schemes require an initial investment and promise well-above-average returns. {Nobody is giving any

guarantee of any above average returns}  Promoters of Ponzi schemes will pay high returns to attract new investors and

entice current investors to invest more money. {There is no promoters in Bitcoin, paying anyone high returns} Promoters also

try to minimize withdrawals by offering new plans to investors where money cannot be withdrawn for a certain period of time

in exchange for higher returns. {In Bitcoin you can withdraw whenever you like}  Grin

Every minute somebody on this forum ppl are posting story's about how they're getting RICH on trading BTC, tokens, and shit-coins.

BTC is NOT a PONZI, its more like SOUTH-SEA-BUBBLE, which was a stock, that went ASTRO for years and EVERYBODY got on board, and eventually everybody went BUST.
225  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ♨♨♨ Is Bitcoin A Giant Ponzi Scheme?♨♨♨ on: December 10, 2017, 07:37:10 AM
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In the true spirit of Libertarianism, I don't see a Ponzi scheme as anything more than gambling....especially if there is no central authority (like a Madoff or Government) lying to get people to invest or forcing them with violence or prison if they do not participate.  That said, I'll give way to the shitposting vermin and their temper tantrums....
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Well there are thousands  SHILLS here making innocent IDIOTS buy into this shit,

There is ton's of people daily here talking about bounty's and getting 300 friends on board the good ship ponzi-coin

GOV is just sitting and waiting for this thing to IMPLODE and then step in to make ppl right again Smiley

A little SELF POLICING and Reality Check would be a good thing.

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Yes, as a Libertarian you do have the right to sever your own penis, but sadly the idiot with the knife tends to want society to make him good again,

There is no caveat, like "Warning Things don't go UP forever"

The manta is BITCOIN to the moon, become a millionaire in a year, never work again, ... blah-blah

All the shills will be held responsible, including the likes of this forum and its owners; Study history

When the TULIP finally did collapse ppl went to jail and were hung, randomly by gov to make good for the hurt.

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Historically 'south sea bubble' is closer to BTC its a stock in offshore colonizing the new world and its stock like BTC went ASTRO for years, and anybody that questioned it was a pariah, just like now with BTC.
226  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ♨♨♨ Is Bitcoin A Giant Ponzi Scheme?♨♨♨ on: December 10, 2017, 07:27:43 AM
Bitcoin can not be attributed to the Ponzi scheme, because it does not conform to such a scheme and is not a fraud. Bitcoin is to some extent a financial bubble, but not a Ponzi scheme. Some properties of the bubble bubble have due to the fact that, being unsecured, it grows in price by increasing demand for it, and demand is growing, because its price is growing and people are investing in it, hoping to profit from its growth in value.

BTC the code is as solid as a rock.

Just like "PONZI", nobody blamed the 'stamp', they blamed the MAN.

The problem with BTC is that there is no face for ZOG to portray is the 'bogey-man'

BITCOIN is just code, and its really cool, just like torrent, and it work peer2peer

Problem is all the assholes who have turned it into a money tree.

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IDIOTS will get hurt when this CHAIN-LETTER implodes, and then comes NEW GOV Regulation, which we don't want.

In the short time U idiots keep counting your faux wealth, but the end game here will be to REGULATE the INTERNET and all software crypto.
227  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ♨♨♨ Is Bitcoin A Giant Ponzi Scheme?♨♨♨ on: December 10, 2017, 07:25:34 AM



Social security programs and pension funds are some of the largest Ponzi systems going that dwarf all of the others.  In order to legitimize their Ponzi schemes, governments do everything in their power to crack down on anything that they cannot control, sooner or later.

The above definition is amazingly simple but due to the lack of English on this forum this thread will be full of angry shitposters that either cannot read, understand, or otherwise accept reality.

In the true spirit of Libertarianism, I don't see a Ponzi scheme as anything more than gambling....especially if there is no central authority (like a Madoff or Government) lying to get people to invest or forcing them with violence or prison if they do not participate.  That said, I'll give way to the shitposting vermin and their temper tantrums....

"The US Dollar, the US Gov are all Ponzi schemes" - Bernie Madoff ( king of ponzis of our time )

Hell yes, thus nothing wrong with the BTC ponzi, other than uncle sam isn't running the show, but that's why CME-GS is now going to take ownership of BTC.

Funny Madoff went to jail for robbing brother zionists, but normally none of the ponzi bankers in USA ever go to jail Smiley

Well once PPL are hurt, and they will be U can be certain ppl will go to jail over Bitcoin,

Nothing will be worse than the whining and crying of millions of millenials who lost all their money Smiley
228  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ♨♨♨ Is Bitcoin A Giant Ponzi Scheme?♨♨♨ on: December 10, 2017, 07:21:01 AM
I read that chain-letters are illegal in the United States Shocked

They used to be super common, but I'm sure the US Postal Service was forced to classify them as a fraud, and that would make using the post a felony.

PPL used to use the 'post' now they use the INTERNET Smiley

Perhaps what's needed is US-POSTAL-POLICE, or a US-INTERNET POLICE Force is keep people safe from fraud on the internet Smiley ??
229  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did Satoshi Work for Goldman-Sachs(CME) 2009->2018 'Mission Accomplished' on: December 10, 2017, 07:15:05 AM


In this methodology document, both the Administrator and Calculation Agent of the BRR are exclusively listed as "Crypto Facilities Ltd", based at an address in the City of London:

    Contact Details: Crypto Facilities Ltd 4th Floor 25 Copthall Avenue London EC2R 7BP

     

    Web: https://www.cryptofacilities.com Phone: +44 20 7655 6085 Email: contact@cryptofacilities.com

So who or what is “Crypto facilities Ltd”?  Looking at the UK Companies registration web site (Companies House), reveals that 'Crypto Facilities Ltd' was incorporated on 12 August 2014 as a private limited company in the UK.

According to Companies House, 'Crypto Facilities Ltd' only has one director, a certain Timo Schlaefer.

Who is this Timo Schlaefer? According to LinkedIn, Timo Schlaefer was with the Vampire Squid Goldman Sachs between 2011 to 2015. Strangely though, the header of Schlaefer's LinkedIn profile still says “Goldman Sachs”.
230  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did Satoshi Work for Goldman-Sachs(CME) 2009->2018 'Mission Accomplished' on: December 10, 2017, 07:08:11 AM
Who cares?

ZOG/NSA is making us all rich Smiley

Right?
231  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ♨♨♨ Is Bitcoin A Giant Ponzi Scheme?♨♨♨ on: December 10, 2017, 06:57:32 AM
A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned through legitimate sources


Is Bitcoin a giant Ponzi Scheme?


BITCOIN is more of a 'chain-letter', google that term,

PONZI sold stamps, which were tangible, ponzi ( the man ) told ppl to HODL their stamps and they would get 100% ROI per month, ... so that element is very similar

A chain-letter, or block-chain, is where you get you friend to join, and they get friends, and then the BTC goes from 10,000 BTC's for a pizza, to one btc for $10k USD

But PONZI was just one guy, today with BTC you have 100's if not 1,000's of criminals running exchanges and websites all scamming people, thus BTC is a chain-letter on steroids

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These things never end well, but the block-chain is here to stay Smiley
232  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will bittrex and exchanges divulge bitcoin ownerships to tax agency? on: December 10, 2017, 06:50:52 AM
Has that ever happened?

Some have these KYC.

Will it happens?

In most exchanges I go anonymous. On some I got some money.

Hell YES, there is a new rule just published, ALL Exchanged on USA SOIL Must divulge all sales over $20k to the IRS

U will then get an automatic bill from the IRS for not declaring this un-earned income, and all penalty's are DUE,

All exchanges on USA soil to be licensed, and conditions are licensing are being a compliant agent for the IRS, in other words all BTC exchanges on USA soil, are IRS tax collectors and enforcers.

The $20k rule will eventually drop to $10k, and goal is $500 USD all sales of crypt to be reported to IRS

[ zog? usa, austrailia, japan, taiwan, so-korea, uk,can, .. all usa colonys areas held by usa military under zog ]

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Summary, never use a exchange that is under ZOG, that means probably only safe exchanges be china and/or russia

IRS like FBI are just ZOG agents keeping the funds flowing to Tel-Aviv(City of London), since 1913 FRB
233  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Did Satoshi Work for Goldman-Sachs(CME-BRR) 2009->2018 'Bitcoin Reference Rate ' on: December 10, 2017, 06:44:53 AM
Which is why it would be intriguing at this time to know what Satoshi thinks of the imminent launch of (US dollar cash-settled) Bitcoin futures by the CME Group. But even more interestingly, it would be intriguing to know what Satoshi would think of the fact that the settlement prices of these new CME Bitcoin futures are based on calculations by a private London-based company whose founder and sole director is from Goldman Sachs.

As a reminder, this is the same Goldman Sachs which Matt Taibbi described as follows, coincidentally also in 2009:

    "The first thing you need to know about Goldman Sachs is that it's everywhere. The world's most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money."  

This is also the same Goldman Sachs, whose alumni currently occupy positions in the most powerful financial positions in the world, positions such as US Secretary of the Treasury (Steven Mnuchin), President of the European Central Bank (Mario Draghi), Governor of the Bank of England (Mark Carney), and President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (Bill Dudley).

The Fix is In: CME Bitcoin Futures

One key feature that stands out when glancing at the contract specs of these soon to be launched CME Bitcoin futures contracts is that they will be cash-settled based on a “CME CF Bitcoin Reference Rate (BRR)”

A recent CME press release elaborates:

    “CME Group's Bitcoin futures will be cash-settled, based on the CME CF Bitcoin Reference Rate (BRR) which serves as a once-a-day reference rate of the U.S. dollar price of bitcoin.  

    

    Since November 2016, CME Group and Crypto Facilities Ltd. have calculated and published the BRR, which aggregates the trade flow of major bitcoin spot exchanges during a calculation window into the U.S. Dollar price of one bitcoin as of 4:00 p.m. London time.

    

    The BRR is designed around the IOSCO Principles for Financial Benchmarks.

    

    Bitstamp, GDAX, itBit and Kraken are the constituent exchanges that currently contribute the pricing data for calculating the BRR.”

A reference rate / benchmark calculated in the City of London that is used as a basis for the settlement of multi-billion dollar financial contracts. Wait, where have we heard that before?

The CME web site also helpfully hosts a methodology document for this Bitcoin Reference Rate (BRR), but which strangely has very little mention of CME, and a lot of citations to Crypto Facilities Ltd.
234  Economy / Speculation / Re: NOW IS THE TIME TO BUY!! on: December 10, 2017, 06:07:07 AM
everyone is panicking because it’s hitting Wall Street tomorrow ..... fact of the matter is, price will still reach 25k range by January since Bitcoin will remain a growing commodity.. and once big investors start pumping huge money into it, the takeoff is inevitable. Buy now or you’ll soon regret it.. all these talks of a crash by people who missed the boat is striking lots of fear in people, but it’s fear that’s not rooted in reality.

Don’t say i didn’t warn you folks.

Yeah !! its the basics of trading buy low! hold your breathe! sell high!!
BTCBTCBTC

YEP, but there is no exit, to BUY/SELL in classic trading, what did we just see exchanges grinding to a halt, 100's of 1,000's of transactions waiting for consensus, ...

This is why GS will make a fortune selling BTC derivatives to main-street, which means that all the day traders here will move over to the GS owned exchanges so that they can get instant confirmation on trades, and really churn,

This could all be good as then BITCOIN will go back to be just having buy/sell by serious people who actually are not looking to make easy/fast money.

The GS house of course is in business of screwing the customer, so never fear, the house always takes your money in the end.
235  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / GOLDMAN-SACHS will soon "OWN BITCOIN" - What wil they Target the Price? on: December 10, 2017, 05:59:19 AM
As U all know in the coming days that GOLDMAN-SACHS aka government-sacks, aka ZOG "zionist occupied governments' in London will be setting the price of bitcoin, starting the coming week.

They control the price of GOLD, because they can print MONEY for free ( they own the federal reserve bank ), they can & will make GOLD and/or BITCOIN be any target price they wish.

The question to be asked is what will this price be?

IMHO it will be some small multiple of GOLD, such as $4800, or $12,000, they don't want BITCOIN to go too high, because they want to control the WEALTH of nations that have BTC like CHINA.

Of course GS will never control the 2,000+ alt-coins, and they will never control the BITCOIN forks to infinity, but they could create a 'legitimacy' image where only BTC is seen as "KOSHER".

Just another take over, like NYA tried to do, and now its being done by BIS/IMF/ZOG/AIPAC

It would be 'good' to say this isn't/wasn't possible, that BTC is too fluid, but truth be told like this forum, where the exchanges are all gov tax fronts, and all the day-traders are herded through the exchanges, and all will look to goldman-sachs for leadership, and buy-outs, in time all exchanges will be licensed, and all trading corralled, thus they will control the price, since they can print money for free they can BUY/SELL as much as they wish.

In the coming weeks GS will have its IRS/FBI agents liquidate all the BTC holdings that have been confiscated, this will be used to drive prices down, and of course they use free money to drive prices up.

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IMHO its a good time to exit BTC as it will soon be nothing more than just another ZOG-CURRENCY. Probably why majority here never demand real privacy, as nobody cares, and ZOG-GOV only loves this stuff to control ppl, and other country's.
236  Economy / Speculation / BTC to $4,000 USD this week - $10 Billion USD Held BTC's to be Liquidated on: December 10, 2017, 05:19:56 AM
Most people I know have been cashing out to let the new money in and take the coming hard fall. The amount of coins getting ready to fall on the market is going to collapse the market. People have been dumping slowly trying to prevent killing the rise as the market has been burning up. The major dumps will be next week. People will be dropping thousands and thousands at a time hoping the surge holds until they get out. Several Zionist Occupied Governments are sitting on millions of seized coins as well that they will soon monetize.

Dec2016 base to return to $4k, this is a good wash-out of the speculators, and should send off most of the day-traders packing permanently forever.

BTC will still go to $1 Million USD to but the PTB want to wash-out the idiots.
237  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The price is out of control on: December 08, 2017, 08:32:11 AM
yes indeed when prices soared because bitcoin prices out of control and then a little happy and happy because it could be bitcoin prices will collide until uncontrolled too, now I know because the number of new users and what happens is the whale that pumps the price increase so skyrocket bitcoin , so if the low bitcoin price you try to buy more for you save until the bitcoin price will skyrocket again

Quick call the GOV

We need a new agency,

Let's call it the Federal Bureau of Bitcoin Control, and then we'll never again worry, everything will be under control

WHat's it about 'control'

Satoshi created bitcoin to be a peer2peer network, where poor people could circumvent banks, no element of control , unless you own +51% of the consensus, and bitcoin is a million cats that all hate each other, ppl can't even find consensus on the number of bits in a byte Smiley
238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum transaction delay: how long? on: December 08, 2017, 07:57:07 AM
ETH processing stopped due to high load on ETH network. Processing will resume when network load reduces. This is the message most exchanges are displaying. So how long will they clear backlog transactions. Will it be temporal or it will be happening here and there.

It's a global problem and it's all over the Ethereum Network. Apparently due to the "Cats invasion" but not too sure if it's entirely the problem here  Grin  You can try adding more gas and gwei to transactions in order for a more successful rate in transactions.

Wait,but they told us ETH was the best, they said that butt-boy buterin could do no wrong, they said when he wrote the ETH code at 6 years of age that his IQ was 10x higher than Satoshi

Know today ... we're told? that kittens ate ETH??

What's mother to think?

If BUTT-BOY were not hosting scam-ico token's maybe ETH would work as advertised, ... oh never mind the future is in porn delivery by ETH Smiley
239  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Is BITCOIN left or right? Is it female or male? Yin or Yang? Dem or Repug? on: December 08, 2017, 07:36:18 AM

This is probably too abstract for many to understand so let it sink in before you react.  If people are really scared of war, they are better off pulling cash out of their banks and putting it in a foreign investment account.


A CIVIL WAR, a war brought on because USA bombs your country into the stone age, ...

A war by definition, means there are NO banks, besides the banks in SK, are USA controlled like JAPAN post ww2

Post war this time the banks in asia will be AIIB controlled, thus anybody who leaves their money in CIA-IMF  banks will be a loser, BITCOIN is the only POLITICAL NEUTRAL CURRENCY on earth.

BITCOIN doesn't care about country's, gov, or politics

This is why ppl put their money into BITCOIN, because nobody trusts any GOV or COUNTRY or PARTY

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Lastly, its called FATCA, and back in 2009 the USA-GOV banned foriegn accounts, no place on earth will let a USA citizen open a bank account, I highly suggest you go travel and learn about the real world.
240  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Potential Korean War and bitcoin super bull on: December 08, 2017, 07:33:55 AM


This is probably too abstract for many to understand so let it sink in before you react.  If people are really scared of war, they are better off pulling cash out of their banks and putting it in a foreign investment account.

A war by definition, means there are NO banks, besides the banks in SK, are USA controlled like JAPAN post ww2

Post war this time the banks in asia will be AIIB controlled, thus anybody who leaves their money in CIA-IMF  banks will be a loser, BITCOIN is the only POLITICAL NEUTRAL CURRENCY on earth.
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