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221  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Want to sell bitcoin for Chinese yuan but don't have enough btc on: January 16, 2011, 08:03:55 AM
see
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_bitcoins
222  Economy / Marketplace / Re: CoinPal beta - Buying bitcoins with PayPal on: January 15, 2011, 04:43:17 AM
I'm worried that "CoinPal" will get sued by "PayPal" for trademark violation.

I haven't been able to find specific information about PayPal having a trademark on *Pal, but enough people have expressed concern, that I'm going to change the name.  Any suggestions?

I'm leaning toward Copal, which portmanteau-ishly suggests what the service does, is an existing word so it can't be trademarked and goes well with the name Cowalla (the planned name for a future Dwolla->BTC service).

i might suggest to stay away from 'pal' completely. how about something nice and generic, like 'bitcoinsource' Smiley
then you can use the same site for paypal, dwolla, $anything else.
223  Economy / Marketplace / Re: CoinPal beta - Buying bitcoins with PayPal on: January 14, 2011, 06:34:39 PM
I've increased CoinPal purchase limits to 40 BTC per week.  Past customers who hit the old limit can immediately place orders up to the new limit.

Depending on typical order size and future BTC exchange rates, I may change my PayPal account back to the standard fee structure.  The standard fee structure gives lower fees for payments over $11.90.  I'll post here if/when that happens.

I anticipate current order limits staying in place until the end of February or March.  That gives the initial transactions enough time to mature past the PayPal dispute deadline (45 days) and to approach the credit card chargeback deadline (~90 days).  Which gives me better data for my fraud prediction model. I'd rather go slowly and keep the service open than rush to a hasty demise.

i wouldn't hurry too much to raise the limits. you'll get plenty of volume due to high number of customers, while keeping fraud risk from any individual account low.

you have a great service there, i'd hate to see it go bust due to one or two large frauds.
224  Local / Новички / Re: Пеар в рунете? on: January 14, 2011, 04:02:55 PM
Ну да, высоко сижу, далеко гляжу... Wink

haha

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Асимптота в педивикии. Грубо говоря - приближаться будет долго, но будет равно только в бесконечности. Опять же - предел.

in case of bitcoin, not quite "в бесконечности" since there's a precision limit for bitcoins of 8 decimal places. it'll run out of precision in 32 halvings of the block bounty (currently 50 coins per block, after 32 halvings, 0.00000001 bitcoins per block. halvings occur in 210k block intervals, which is approximately 4 years (if ~10 min per block). so after approx 128 years (plus 2 years that still remain in the first 210k block chunk), new bitcoin production will stop. so 2011 + 130 = year 2141, that all bitcoins will be generated.

of course, all that is assuming that the precision won't be adjusted sometime along the way.

(sorry for english, but i couldn't be arsed to go all translit.ru on you. Smiley )
225  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best way to get bitcoin? on: January 14, 2011, 06:27:31 AM
Yeah, it sucks to lose $200 to the mail system (or the exchanger.) This was just a small test to check the integrity of the exchange before I sent them some real cash. I'm glad I got burned on a smaller amount. Now I see why Western Union can afford to charge people $20 to send cash somewhere. I really really wish I would've paid them.

Anyway, thanks for the help guys. CoinPal looks like exactly what I was looking for.

Now to just find a way to transfer larger amounts safely...

well, that's why it pays to use delivery confirmation on mail that's worth > $100. things are much less likely to get lost that way, for only a few bucks more.

as for larger amounts... mtgox takes bank wire and ach transfers in for larger chunks of usd, so that's probably your best bet.
226  Local / Новички / Re: Пеар в рунете? on: January 14, 2011, 06:00:20 AM
...
статья
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К тому же количество денежных единиц (“биткойнов”) в ближайшие годы асимптотически приблизится к 21 000 000 и перестанет расти

год 2100+ == ближайшие годы? дальнозоркий взгляд на мир у вас, однако. Smiley
227  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Have $10 MoneyPak on: January 14, 2011, 05:41:50 AM
.40/btc Smiley (price subject to change until we talk live and reach agreement)
228  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone up for submitting a proposal to OSCON 2011? on: January 12, 2011, 09:42:37 PM
so... any progress on this? Smiley
229  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I2P and TOR friendly rendevouz point? on: January 12, 2011, 09:33:59 PM
you can connect to freenode via tor.
and there's also an i2p-freenode irc relay established on #bitcoin-discussion channel.

so take your pick. Smiley
230  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Numerous auctions on biddingpond on: January 12, 2011, 07:12:51 AM
pay people for being the leading bidder for a length of time.
i like this idea. Smiley

the funds can come from the auctioneer's fees, or from opt-in by the sellers (sellers have incentive to opt in, if it means their items sell for more in the end).
231  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Numerous auctions on biddingpond on: January 09, 2011, 11:29:56 PM
I also placed a first bid on the modem and "Bidder 1" outbid me with the minimum increment. I bid a second time and he did it again. I checked the logs and it was in the exact second I made a bid.
"Bidder 1" has placed a bid higher than yours, but only the minimum bid needed to win the auction is shown.  As long as your bid is smaller than Bidder 1's bid, he will win, but not pay more than necessary to win the auction.  When you bid above Bidder 1's maximum bid, your bid will stand one minimum increment above Bidder 1's maximum bid, and when someone bids above your visible bid, it will be incremented in the same way as Bidder 1's bid is now.  Bidder 1's real name is not Bidder 1, btw.
for reference, it's exactly like ebay's proxy bit system, that you can read about in detail on ebay's website somewhere. Smiley

EDIT: gah, beaten by biddingpond's reply. Tongue
232  Economy / Marketplace / Re: We accept Bitcoins on: January 09, 2011, 11:09:00 PM
Ripplepay.com, a system for transferring value through trust networks, and in particular social networks, now accepts Bitcoin donations.

https://ripplepay.com/donate/

For more information about Ripplepay, see ripple-project.org.

Ryan

oh nice!
i've been talking with daniel and using his raindroplet branch with bitcoin to good effect. when's ripplepay going to have btc as a supported currency? Smiley
233  Other / Archival / Re: I will buy Bitcoins via Paypal ($10.00 USD for Current Mt. Gox BTC Rate) on: January 09, 2011, 11:02:37 PM
I can't seem to figure out how IRC clients work. I tried mIRC and some other one (I forget the name), but I just couldn't get it to work! If anybody could give a link to a foolproof, step-by-step tutorial on setting up freenode or any IRC client tutorial (NOT the crappy and basic eHow and Wikihow tutorials), I would appreciate it very much.

your browser is the easiest. just clicky this link:
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#bitcoin-otc
234  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Needed: calling db4.8 testers! on: January 09, 2011, 03:45:46 PM
Build-unix.txt says:
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You need Berkeley DB 4.7.  Don't use 4.8, the database/log0000* files are incompatible.

Possibly using 4.8 would not allow you to restore correctly in case of database corruption.

indeed, when i did a switchback from my build with bdb4.8 to the official build, i had to delete database/log* files in order for it to work.
that said, all the important bits (wallet) and the not-so-important bits (block chain and index) were just fine.

the testing is being done to see if there are any issues for switching the official build to 4.8 (in which case, there shouldn't be a reason for people to go back)
235  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Needed: calling db4.8 testers! on: January 09, 2011, 01:30:08 AM
4.8 worked on ubuntu lucid (10.04) 32bit with no problems.
236  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: CIA bot for gavin's bitcoin branch on github on: January 09, 2011, 01:25:07 AM

Looking forward to see the first commit in the Channel Logs Cheesy

What, no ones seen my commits for DiabloMiner? :<


i bet he means 'first commit to gavin's repo in channel logs' Smiley
237  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Central, now featuring dark pools ! on: January 09, 2011, 12:48:02 AM
davout: have you given any thought to the idea of compromising between transparency and stability, by hiding only the dark pool order volume, but not the fact that an order exists?

If the volume is hidden though it discourages me from using the market. If people use the dark pool then the volume on the market always appears low and makes me think there's no trading going on. So I look for a busier market or assume bitcoin is not being traded.

so you'd rather not have the dark pools at all, i take it?
238  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Central, now featuring dark pools ! on: January 09, 2011, 12:06:07 AM
dark pools do add stability to the market price. but at the cost of transparency.

davout: have you given any thought to the idea of compromising between transparency and stability, by hiding only the dark pool order volume, but not the fact that an order exists?
239  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Announcing bitcoin-central.net - trade USD and EUR for free! on: January 09, 2011, 12:03:49 AM
So EUR is via mail? (fee?)
Could it also be done via bank transfer?

Please e-mail support@bitcoin-central.net for inquiries.
Bonus points for PGP encryption.

what kind of bonus points? if they're in form of btc... i'll send you an encrypted email, just to say hello. Smiley
240  Economy / Economics / Re: Today 1 BTC=1.3 USD on: January 07, 2011, 06:35:28 PM
ok, i didn't want to do it... but it looks like you guys force my hand. selling 5000btc at 1.288 usd each! it's my final offer! Smiley
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