We should be careful not to anonymize the masternode's 1000DRK. Right?
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Masternode UP and runiing - Thanks Evan and his team for the hard work you did in the past weeks.
Also a big thank you for all people getting results with spending time and money on testnet !!!
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considering that CLOAK is really just a BoostCoin clone with a simple mixer and some in wallet API calls that was mined HEAVILY by the dev, i think this is accurate...
Another to my ingored-list. Man, you people are desperate. 7 days mining 4 million coins and then big organized pump. Organized scam, maybe ? We will never know it ? Thatīs a real problem with anon devs. If they donīt do something wrong youīll never get them. I also lost money and i already recogniced that fact. Done ! Shit happens, as always in bad crypto land. |
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I am saying again and again. The whole bad behaviour (P&P, Scam and FUD) of crypto cummunities hurts
this markets a lot. There is no fresh money comming into these markets.
At least only money is shifting around into the declining market day by day and everybody that was been scammed
by pump and dups will not give any new Dollar to these markets.
Crypto destroys itself. My investment of around 5000 i made 10 months ago would be completly lost
if i wouldnīt be very early in DRK. I hold my single masternode, more i doīt have over.
I know some people that lost around 5K completly over the last months.
They will never come back to crypto markets.
Cloak is the best example of bad behaviour of crypto markets ( assholes like bobsurplus destroy all crypto markets )
I am pretty sure DRK is the last coin that has serious buyers, otherwise also DRK would have been done now.
Even if it has great things to offer, it doesnīt matter.
I expect hashrate will get higher and higher because there are a lot of very cheap powercost miners ( or power thieves )
that dump any coin they mine if there is a buyer.
Show me one coin that is still worth to mine than DRK - no one is over !!!
just my 2 duff
Drk has no more serious investors buying, only traders like me and that dude that dumped 3k with no regret. And someone has to pay the bills for miners, give profits to the whales that pumped the price above any moon that was expected. Shit, this coin was expensive even before the pump!! And yes, you are right about the altcoin scene. But drk is no different, the whales that own this coin and get profits from market are not different that all the other. It's all about profits and profits come from dumping. Some people will always cheer for drk becuase they got in before the big pump and they don't care- they hodl. But all new investors and traders should take into account that buying in a long downtrend to go is stupid and deserves to lose money. So what your suggestion into crypto market. Wait until the next coin pump and jump it instead of hold coins of good projects. If your answer is yes, then you will also end up with nothing because at one point of time also P&D game is over because money has all gone !!! You can trade coins, a downtrend does not mean you cannot make profits. Holding lots of coin because they are 'good projects' is sentimental. You invest to make money or you invest to make you feel good that you support something worthy? Anyway bagholding thousands from the big pump until now must have felt like shit, it was a bad investment and turns out this charity towards good projects let you down. You can try to find 'the next big thing and invest carefully making you an early adopter. If you are lucky you got in before they pump on bittrex. Shitcoins like BitcoinDark pumped so high... but I hate to baghold too much so this is not my thing. And it's never easy to get in early, the whales make sure to control most supply. I hold to bitcoin, it's still a risky investment  All you word you made here show all and everything. With that behaviour there wonīt be any successful coin and no fresh money, and in near future all done in crypto market expect BTC. Itīs time to go back "all in" to PM markets. They are higly manipulated from US government and their friends in centralbanks, but especially as an US citizien i would highly suggest to be investeted in PM. There are dark times in future to come over there. Asian takes any PM the can get out of western vaults because they have to unload masses of US$. Once they have done ... be sure you have some ounces left over in your pocket, whatever coulor they have ! |
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Why would anybody be selling with RC4 around the corner?
I am saying again and again. The whole bad behaviour (P&P, Scam and FUD) of crypto cummunities hurts this markets a lot. There is no fresh money comming into these markets. At least only money is shifting around into the declining market day by day and everybody that was been scammed by pump and dups will not give any new Dollar to these markets. Crypto destroys itself. My investment of around 5000 i made 10 months ago would be completly lost if i wouldnīt be very early in DRK. I hold my single masternode, more i doīt have over. I know some people that lost around 5K completly over the last months. They will never come back to crypto markets. Cloak is the best example of bad behaviour of crypto markets ( assholes like bobsurplus destroy all crypto markets ) I am pretty sure DRK is the last coin that has serious buyers, otherwise also DRK would have been done now. Even if it has great things to offer, it doesnīt matter. I expect hashrate will get higher and higher because there are a lot of very cheap powercost miners ( or power thieves ) that dump any coin they mine if there is a buyer. Show me one coin that is still worth to mine than DRK - no one is over !!! just my 2 duff Drk has no more serious investors buying, only traders like me and that dude that dumped 3k with no regret. And someone has to pay the bills for miners, give profits to the whales that pumped the price above any moon that was expected. Shit, this coin was expensive even before the pump!! And yes, you are right about the altcoin scene. But drk is no different, the whales that own this coin and get profits from market are not different that all the other. It's all about profits and profits come from dumping. Some people will always cheer for drk becuase they got in before the big pump and they don't care- they hodl. But all new investors and traders should take into account that buying in a long downtrend to go is stupid and deserves to lose money. So what your suggestion into crypto market. Wait until the next coin pump and jump it instead of hold coins of good projects. If your answer is yes, then you will also end up with nothing because at one point of time also P&D game is over because money has all gone !!! |
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This coin was have the biggest pump I've ever seen
Havenīt you see BC Pump ? It had a 24h volume of more than 5000 BTC only on mintpal |
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Why would anybody be selling with RC4 around the corner?
I am saying again and again. The whole bad behaviour (P&P, Scam and FUD) of crypto cummunities hurts this markets a lot. There is no fresh money comming into these markets. At least only money is shifting around into the declining market day by day and everybody that was been scammed by pump and dups will not give any new Dollar to these markets. Crypto destroys itself. My investment of around 5000 i made 10 months ago would be completly lost if i wouldnīt be very early in DRK. I hold my single masternode, more i doīt have over. I know some people that lost around 5K completly over the last months. They will never come back to crypto markets. Cloak is the best example of bad behaviour of crypto markets ( assholes like bobsurplus destroy all crypto markets ) I am pretty sure DRK is the last coin that has serious buyers, otherwise also DRK would have been done now. Even if it has great things to offer, it doesnīt matter. I expect hashrate will get higher and higher because there are a lot of very cheap powercost miners ( or power thieves ) that dump any coin they mine if there is a buyer. Show me one coin that is still worth to mine than DRK - no one is over !!! just my 2 duff |
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Does the local/cold wallet for MN needs to be updated after RC4 release? I think I read somewhere that only the remote is a must. Can someone from testnet answer it?
Even if it would work with old wallet you should use the new one. There is no reson to use the old one. The minimum you have to do on local wallet your 1K dark containing is to "masternode start YOURPASS" ( your masternodegenkey has to be listed into darkcoin.conf and masternode flag has to be "1" ) I would do that even if your masternode says that your IP is listed in masternodelist. You have to know that if your darkcoin.conf does not contain any information to stop autodenominate your 1K get spitted and your node goes offline with the new version. I recommend to set masternode Flag to 1 on your wallet containing 1K Dark so it wonīt autodenominate. I did that on testnet over all versions and it works fine without shut down my masternode. It happend to me the first time autodenomination was working on testnet |
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Hello everyone! First I want to say: I`m new in this forum (really new, never had an account) but not so new in Crypto. Second: My english is not the best. Therefore I might verbalize a bit laborious. I`m invested in a few coins, but mostly in Cloak. I bought in at around 60k and bought some more in the range of 200k after the drop. What I think about the current price is: It`s fair and it`s good. Why? Cloak is very very young. The Devs did a great job so far, but today nobody knows if all the promises will be realized. That`s not FUD, it`s a simple fact. And: Some investors bought in very cheap and a few probably very much because they`ve seen the potential. So its really needed, that some of them sell some of their stocks. Everyone of them could crash the price even if it would be 50 Dollar. So, distribution is really needed. But: In this early stages there is no run on Cloak. The price doesn`t recover that fast as some would like to see it. But also: If the Devs make true what they`ve intended there will be a run. For me personally, Cloak is a simple bet. If Cloak, PoSA, OneMarket etc. will work as promised, 10 Dollar would be cheap... I think 20 Dollar would be cheap (LTC were about 30 Dollar with over 30 Mio of LTC). If not, the current price is high and another coin will win the race. But I think, Cloak has the best chances. I don`t know much about coding but I understand the principals and I think decentralization is the most important. If cloak will be delivered as intended, it will be decentralized and it will be truely anonymous. That would be the cash of the net. And that means: Real money would find into cloak, not just speculative Money. I analyze simple principles and some of them more in a psychological way. I always take a look to a Developer-Team, how they communicate, how they deliver. For me, delays are good signs if I see also communication. It stands for perfectionism and thats really needed. Also I try to figure out if the intentions of a development team are honest-longterm. And sure, every Developer wants to make profits, too. But I try to find Dev-Teams on the market who think longterm and have the skills to do it longterm. And thats why I think, Cloak is a great bet. Because I see all I want to see in the project and the Development-Team. Can we be sure that cloak will be on top of the decentralized-anonymous-Cryptos? No. Will there be setbacks? Yes. Some of them just because of FUD, some maybe true setbacks. But if.... Cloak (PoSA, OneMarket and all what will come) some day will work as intended it will be huge. To come to an end: A great project needs time. A great crypto needs distribution. Everybody who think, Cloak will be delivered as intended should buy. Everyone who thinks, he can`t bear the setbacks should sell... Everyone who is sure, that Cloak will become the Cash of the net should buy as much as he can. Everyone who think Cloak will die in weeks or months should sell all (and maybe buy in later if he is wrong .... Really simple. A great post Tempus, makes a lot of sense. Thanks. Sorry guys, but show me one coin that did that you wish to see with cloak. There is no one. I was also thinking in the past and i have some worthless bags. Crypto is not a investment that need time to show its potential. Its only scammers paradise and for non scammers a lottery, nothing more. BC, CAT, AC, MINT,CINNI, DOGE, WC, XC , VERI, PANDA, AUR, VTC, .... LTC .... CLOAK Show me one coin over the last month that done fine.(expect actual new pumps ) - There is no one I noticed you left DRK out of you list. You must be invested in DRK eh? You are rigth it is is left, and you know exactly why. And yes i am also have some of them. And i also have some DOGE, BC, WC, VTC and some other worthless bags. I wish Cloak wouldnīt be left as a worthless bag for me but crypto learned me once such a dump happens that it is done. I didnīt manage to get out one more time again.  |
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Hello everyone! First I want to say: I`m new in this forum (really new, never had an account) but not so new in Crypto. Second: My english is not the best. Therefore I might verbalize a bit laborious. I`m invested in a few coins, but mostly in Cloak. I bought in at around 60k and bought some more in the range of 200k after the drop. What I think about the current price is: It`s fair and it`s good. Why? Cloak is very very young. The Devs did a great job so far, but today nobody knows if all the promises will be realized. That`s not FUD, it`s a simple fact. And: Some investors bought in very cheap and a few probably very much because they`ve seen the potential. So its really needed, that some of them sell some of their stocks. Everyone of them could crash the price even if it would be 50 Dollar. So, distribution is really needed. But: In this early stages there is no run on Cloak. The price doesn`t recover that fast as some would like to see it. But also: If the Devs make true what they`ve intended there will be a run. For me personally, Cloak is a simple bet. If Cloak, PoSA, OneMarket etc. will work as promised, 10 Dollar would be cheap... I think 20 Dollar would be cheap (LTC were about 30 Dollar with over 30 Mio of LTC). If not, the current price is high and another coin will win the race. But I think, Cloak has the best chances. I don`t know much about coding but I understand the principals and I think decentralization is the most important. If cloak will be delivered as intended, it will be decentralized and it will be truely anonymous. That would be the cash of the net. And that means: Real money would find into cloak, not just speculative Money. I analyze simple principles and some of them more in a psychological way. I always take a look to a Developer-Team, how they communicate, how they deliver. For me, delays are good signs if I see also communication. It stands for perfectionism and thats really needed. Also I try to figure out if the intentions of a development team are honest-longterm. And sure, every Developer wants to make profits, too. But I try to find Dev-Teams on the market who think longterm and have the skills to do it longterm. And thats why I think, Cloak is a great bet. Because I see all I want to see in the project and the Development-Team. Can we be sure that cloak will be on top of the decentralized-anonymous-Cryptos? No. Will there be setbacks? Yes. Some of them just because of FUD, some maybe true setbacks. But if.... Cloak (PoSA, OneMarket and all what will come) some day will work as intended it will be huge. To come to an end: A great project needs time. A great crypto needs distribution. Everybody who think, Cloak will be delivered as intended should buy. Everyone who thinks, he can`t bear the setbacks should sell... Everyone who is sure, that Cloak will become the Cash of the net should buy as much as he can. Everyone who think Cloak will die in weeks or months should sell all (and maybe buy in later if he is wrong .... Really simple. A great post Tempus, makes a lot of sense. Thanks. Sorry guys, but show me one coin that did that you wish to see with cloak. There is no one. I was also thinking in the past and i have some worthless bags. Crypto is not a investment that need time to show its potential. Its only scammers paradise and for non scammers a lottery, nothing more. BC, CAT, AC, MINT,CINNI, DOGE, WC, XC , VERI, PANDA, AUR, VTC, .... LTC .... CLOAK Show me one coin over the last month that done fine.(expect actual new pumps ) - There is no one |
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After watching the RC4 testnet progress over the past couple weeks I just want to say now, on the eve of potential RC4 release, that #5 Technology Risk ( https://darkcointalk.org/threads/10-reasons-to-invest-in-darkcoin.814/#post-14952) is probably the number one threat to DRK at this moment. It sounded like as recently as a couple days ago some testnet DarkSends still didn't go as planned and some DRK went missing for some testers. It should be common sense for the dev's (who have amazed me with their abilities)but if, due to whatever technical malfunction, people's real world DRK disappears due to DS+ malfunction (or their own ignorance), that is a colossal negative for DRK. But hopefully they've tested it beyond what is necessary and this isn't a viable risk any more because problems like this could be a coin-killer due to the negative PR/stigma that gets attached to DRK instantaneously. TL;DR The one bug that RC4 can't have is losing people's DRK; that shit kills. JL Your list of risks is well constructed Jesse; thanks for putting it together. In regards to #5, I too am concerned that there still appears to be a number of issues with DS+ (and the wallet in general) within the testing environment. From the posts I'm reading on the testnet thread there are issues needing to either be rectified or clarified around values for the number of Darksend rounds, collateral fees and coins denominating being locked/unlocked in unexpected ways. Also there was mention there within the past 72 hours of the consequences of a user's PC going into standby/hibernate midstream thereby causing some halt to processing. I'm sure none of these are show-stoppers (and compared to the enormous strides that have been made, almost inconsequential), but, like you've pointed out, if users start having problems (and they will, it's inevitable) and those problems start coming thick and fast involving difficulties sending/receiving, trust will be eroded. I'd much rather see RC4 delayed further and testing be way more thorough. It's far easier to rectify these issues prior to release than go into fire-fighting mode after the event and have to deal with the backlash. The other thing which you've touched on in your points but which I think everyone needs to consider is how to prevent Darkcoin ending up with an extreme bad-ass reputation (Silk Road style) so that members of the public in general don't perceive it's purpose is purely to subvert society and help terrorists/paedophiles/thugs. I really don't think you can underestimate how easily this could happen. All it will take is a couple of money laundering/drug warlord stories to hit the mainstream media with Darkcoin attached as the facility they used and we're on a slippery slope to this becoming seen as a criminal enterprise first and foremost. Then Evan's likely to be named alongside Ross Ulbricht as being a "bad person". This, of course, would be a travesty but it could happen easily and very rapidly. The public is completely clueless about the privacy being ripped to shreds by modern big business/government and they're just as clueless about the need for anonymity within financial transactions. We need to think about this in regards to corrective statements and press releases that can help educate the public as to why anonymous financial transactions are so important to freedom. You can bet your bottom darkcoin government everywhere will look to position Darkcoin as a serious threat and impediment to law enforcement and anti-terrorism activity (i.e. they're not going to like it, even though, as pointed out on this forum by other people, they'll use it extensively too) Some things to think about.... Did you ever worked with development software from companies like Rockwell and Siemens. Itīs my bussiness to work with both of them day by day in automation industries. These products are used in around 95% of production lines around the globe. Each new version and product pops up, the endusers are betatester. Sometimes i am searching on bugs over long time and i always think i did something wrong. In the end itīs a develpment bug that you can report and they fix it with a patch. I followed the process from the beginning on testnet with each new version and the progress i have seen day by day was amazing. Itīs time to put it on mainnet. Thanks devteam for your great job. |
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This does not seem to come from the cloak dev team as I interpreted it. Most likely FUDS.creating a cloak market out of the blue. ^^^BUMP glad to see a darkmarket... ^^^UPvote on Reddit... could be some momentum we need Oh man, if that was your devteam - goodnight ! Never seen so much horded incompetence |
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BTW, to people who are expecting a pump after the release of RC4, I don't think it is going to happen, buy the rumors and sell the news.....
Heīs a bit worried about behaving the coin we should not name here. After release of their new version price had a nice decline. This is DRK and no shitcoin pump and dump. RC4 is only the next step to go forward. DRK is designed for a long life and real adoption and not for shortime related daytraders generating profits |
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@Renegade
Dont flatter me. This has nothing to do with me and everything to do with a free market. If you don't like the crypto game you can always become a real life coin collector. At least then people like me cant mess with your perfect little coin.
What I'd like to know is when will you understand that I have very little impact on new investors joining the cloakcamp. That all lies on the shoulders of the cloakcamp devs and the tech they roll out. Not me, not 100 btc and not pumpers.. Its the coin and devs themselves!
On that front, I hear some MAJOR stuff is in the works that will blow some minds. Keeping that in mind I do believe with some new news the price will start to move again and hopefully settle above 200K.
Good luck bud, if you want to learn how to trade better, be part of a team and make more money feel free to check out the thread in my signature.
Later man.
People like you destroy the markets. Why did you troll other coin projects day by day. Only to get them into Cloak ( or any other projekt ) and get your personally goal. After you guys destroyed the whole alt market ( there is no much time left over before it is done ) Then you can transfer your money around with the left over other scammers and trolls. The best one will be left over with NothingNo fresh money will hit these fucking markets in future, because people like you come over with the ugliest behaviour i can imagine. You guys have a self moderated topic here. KICK em OUT of here |
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hey guys, where is the official thread for the testnet? Is it on the darkcoin site? I had a link to it but now I can't find it.
Are you waiting for the perfekt moment dumping any shitcoin and pumping DRK ? I hope Evan will release RC4 without any announcement as he did as masternode payments started last time. He donīt need to hardfork the network. Release new version and go. I am so sad watching all these bullshit pump and dumps in alt coin markets. Why did you play dump and pump games on other shitcoins and did not help on testnet ? If you would have helped over there you do not have to ask where to find testnetinformations. |
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DRK network hash @ 140 Gh/s... Approaching the levels we had with the May 2014 pump... There's a storm brewin Nothing other alt coin is getting bought by people. Dumpminers mine DRK because there are buyers left over. Dumpminers already destroyed VTC because there were people left over who bought it after months of price decline. Now these people are gone and a good coin is gone. DRK can be happy that it has only the minimal 5 DRK per block strategy. Alt coin market destroyed itsself by its greedy behaviour and the dayly uppoping scam. Looks like only scammers, fuders and trolls are left over in these markets. How much do you have to pay for energy per kwh only to cover your energy bill when mining DRK without taking a profit ? I think it must be around 0,08 US$ / kwh or lower. How much people on this planet have these prices ? Not much. Have a look to central europe. I can not see any country where a miner is left over here ( maybe some who steal energy ) Energy is much to expensive for us. 0.36US$ in europe is a bit to high playing "miner games" |
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Thanks for the help, I've a feeling they are gone.
I dont understand how having only re-opened it after it crashing a few hours previously I'm 60days behind and 0 coins? I put the backup back open the wallet and I'm given a new address?
The wallet looks like the same file size but it keeps getting written to when i open the wallet? i really can't understand whats happened.
If your wallet does not synch you have to delete all files into your appdata folder expect wallet.dat and resynch |
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Can any one help me?
I've lost all my coins!
My cloak wallet crashed earlier.
I backed up my wallet.dat because i went to download new mac wallet, mega wouln,t let the download work for some reason. ( i thought there was a new version)
Then wen i opened my wallet i had no coins and a new address!!!
By my backup wallet (yes i only had one of this wallet) has now been over written with a blank wallet?!!
Every time i open cloak wallet I'm given a new address, and the block explorer is now 55 days behind?!
Whats happened?!!
did you download the client with safari? Yeh i have done everything correct, but after it crashed and i opened it again was out of sync with 0 coins. I didn't realise the 0 coins so backed up wallet over my other backup which was done this morning!!!! My coins will still show in wallet if its out of sync right? or shall i try to let it sync? But the weird thing is getting different addresses. Im really annoyed, 420 coins pooft! gone! Another thing you can do is let a new wallet synch and replace the empty wallet.dat with older backups you have. After restart your wallet with a replaced wallet.dat it directly show the correct balance of wallet.dat |
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Can any one help me?
I've lost all my coins!
My cloak wallet crashed earlier.
I backed up my wallet.dat because i went to download new mac wallet, mega wouln,t let the download work for some reason. ( i thought there was a new version)
Then wen i opened my wallet i had no coins and a new address!!!
By my backup wallet (yes i only had one of this wallet) has now been over written with a blank wallet?!!
Every time i open cloak wallet I'm given a new address, and the block explorer is now 55 days behind?!
Whats happened?!!
did you download the client with safari? Yeh i have done everything correct, but after it crashed and i opened it again was out of sync with 0 coins. I didn't realise the 0 coins so backed up wallet over my other backup which was done this morning!!!! My coins will still show in wallet if its out of sync right? or shall i try to let it sync? But the weird thing is getting different addresses. Im really annoyed, 420 coins pooft! gone! If you have backed up a fresh wallet.dat with 0coins over your old wallet.dat containing your coins they are lost. Do you not have a older backup ? It is no impotant how much coins are into your old wallet backup, its only important it shows your address you hold the coin into. I always make a backup when it is fresh and encryted and has 0 coins on it. You can synch such a wallet months later and it should have all coins into it. |
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One thing is sure, is that Bob give a really bad image of this coin.
Sorry for the other people, that seam smart for me.
But sure I'll never invest in a coin that is promoting this retarded thief Bob.
Crypto is a real bad community and people like Bob and others behaving like him are the reason why no altcoin will ever stay alive in future. Who the fuck should benefit their manipulation games. Once you have lost money to these fuders and spammers you get rid of the crypto game. |
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