If you have been here for a couple of years, Do you remember when Elon Musk Announced Tesla would accept Bitcoin as a payment method, and we saw a massive pump on the market? This is whales who are playing with us and the market. Elon Musk announced they would accept Bitcoin as payment method > Market Pumped > Elon Musk Cashed Out his profit > Elon Musk says Tesla will stop accepting bitcoin for car purchases, citing environmental concerns > Market dropped a little bit. He waited a couple of weeks. Probably Buy Back some Bitcoin again, and now > Elon Musk says Tesla will 'most likely' accept bitcoin again when it becomes more eco-friendly. then again > Tesla unlikely to accept Bitcoin again.

I don't know if Tesla accepts Bitcoin right now. But the PDF they prepared and uploaded to their website still exists on their website. Here it is https://www.tesla.com/assets/pdf/BTC_What_You_Need_To_Know_en_US.pdf. This PDF refers to two more web page of their website, which is this and this. I tried searching Keyword "Bitcoin" and found nothing on their website. So, It's unlikely they accept Bitcoin.

This is just a scenario I mentioned. Other whales are hiding and playing with the market.

Sometimes it depends on luck as well. Your Best friend won't call you a bad friend if your suggestions are unsuccessful. They will try to understand what you say. I have a friend who invested in GPU mining over a year ago. He saw I was making good money from GPU mining. So he asked if he could invest in mining. I agreed, and he bought GPUs. After a couple of months, ETH updated from Proof of Work to Proof of Stake.

Moreover, the GPU Mining era ended. As a result, My Friend was unable to get ROI. Of course, I don't agree that this is my fault, and he understands that. I won't suggest everyone invest in something where he can also lose. I mean, Investment means there is a possibility to lose. But, You have to choose the right people who understand those things.


I won't blame them for wanting to make easy money. Everyone wants to make easy money these days. We all have greediness inside. We all want to earn money. That's not a problem. The problem is we show off how easy it is to make money from Bitcoin. It's not as easy as it sounds. We are the ones to blame. When we talk with others, we tell them our success stories only. Newbies see the market pumps only. They don't see how often people say Bitcoin dies when the market drops.

It's like you are saying you send your Bitcoin to me, and I can't access the funds. If you say that for the self-custodial wallet, I agree. Self-custodial wallets don't have access to your funds. But, when it comes to exchanges. They have access to your funds. They can use your coins to do whatever they want. This is why you see exchanges freeze user accounts and confiscate their funds. There are a lot of cases where exchanges like Binance and Coinbase freeze their user account and their balance. I have mentioned this in many threads so far.

Coinbase Case: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5444423.0 In this thread, OP claims one of his known people had a Coinbase account, and Coinbase froze her account and seized her assets.
Binance Case: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5370726.0 Binance Disabled user withdrawals and asked him to deposit to get unlocked. I would quote myself here;


If they couldn't access your funds, How would they freeze and seize your account? Exchange always has access to your funds. You can do nothing if they run away with your funds (If something happens like FTX).

I don't know if Bitcoiner supports Centralized exchanges. But yeah, Bitcoiners still use centralized exchanges like Binance and Coinbase. Some of them offer some excellent features and facilities. For example, Coinbase users can send Bitcoin to another Coinbase user for free without paying transaction fees. Binance users can do the same. This is one of the reasons, but the main reason is the unavailability of decentralized exchanges. I wouldn't say I like centralized exchanges. Still, I am using Binance and have compromised my privacy. I don't have other options to trade with my locals. There are a few numbers of platforms where I can find my locals and deal with them.

Of course, I don't want to trade with an unknown person who can run away with my money. I can also use this forum to trade, but I don't see any of my locals providing the service I am looking for. So, it's kind of I am forced to use their platform.


Well, I didn't know that. Trust Wallet claims they are open-source wallet software. I don't know how to verify it. I should stop using Trust Wallet.

I am waiting for their Flush Originals games as well. In-House games like Dice and Mines are always preferable to me. I hope the new developer team won't take ages to release new games as their previous developer team did. Flush had to re-schedule their main launch a couple of times due to their previous developer team. They worked too slowly in my opinion. I hope the new team won't work like that.


Yeah. Sometimes I find myself in such a position. Usually, I like to play Slots from Pragmatic Play. Sweet Bonanza and Gates of Olympus are my favorite slots. Most of the time, I end up getting busted. If I hit a good multiplier from Sweet Bonanza, I try the winnings on Gates of Olympus and most of the time, I lose them. Of course, sometimes I withdraw my winnings. But yeah, Slots games could be pretty much addictive.

Sometimes RTP doesn't matter. There are always lucky days and unlucky days. Some games are highly volatile still when you hit a multiplier, it could make you rich. At the same time, low volatile games pay you very little multiplier. It's a kind of safe play if you choose low-volatile games.

You Just remembered me of their Reserve Drama. At the End of 2022, Binance moved 1.8 Billion USDC from their reserve to an unknown address. Those 1.8 Billion were reserved (backed) for their BUSD. According to the rules, If they move a single Dollar from the reserve, They have to burn a BUSD. But they did not do that. As a result, Coinbase de-listed their BUSD. Coinbase said According to our observation BUSD is not following the criteria to be listed on our exchange.

On 17th August, Binance withdrew 3.63 Billion USD from the reserve wallet. They had to burn 3.63 Billion BUSD if they moved them. But, Binance did nothing. I am 100% most of the Binance users, or BUSD Holders don't know that. After that, Binance returned 1.85 Billion to the reserve wallet address. The rest of them were moved to an unknown address. Justin Sun was involved in this drama. Forbes reported about it, but CZ claims they were spreading FUD.

Look What CZ said; https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1630466326102777859?s=20

Bitcoin Whitepaper has been there for a couple of years now. The funny thing is nobody noticed that Bitcoin Whitepaper was there. Or maybe Apple users saw a document but didn't know what document it was. I don't know how much confidence it gave to Bitcoin investors. But, Whitepaper removal news won't create many effects in the market. Investors like MicroStrategy will continue investing in Bitcoin until infinite time. They have been accumulating Bitcoin for a long time now. Currently, MicroStrategy holds 140,000 Bitcoins, which will continue accumulating.

Here is why I think It won't affect the market. China has Banned Bitcoin a couple of times so far. They banned Bitcoin transactions, and They Banned Bitcoin Mining. What happened? We have seen some fear in the market, which recovered over time. It was big news. Apple never adopted Bitcoin as a payment method. So, just removing the whitepaper doesn't make any changes.

You pointed out some good points. But it always amazes me when I see Newbies show up with the details of what mistakes newbies should avoid. Well, your forum rank doesn't define your trading experience. But, I would like to see such advice from more veteran traders. I am sorry if you are an experienced trader. The points you mentioned are good but can you explain the solutions as well?

If you are a professional trader, you must have a limit and target for each day unless there are some special events in the crypto market. You shouldn't go beyond the limit. About stop loss, sometimes it depends on greediness. Sometimes people want to see if market bunch back from the downtrend. They want to recover it in the same session. Which is why they end up getting liquidated.

Do not rely on the Technical indicators. They just predict the market as we all do. I am not an expert, but experts never say they are experts. I don't know if you are talking about any specific indicators or signal websites. All indicators and signals are scams. Suppose they can predict the market, why do they have to sell their signals to make money? If they can predict the price, they can invest all in and make millions every day. The truth is all of them are scams.

Now, if you talk about news effects on the crypto market. Well, it happens. If Elon Musk tweets that he is going to buy Doge coins, people will start buying Dogecoin and traders will take profit from there. Those market pumps are temporary. Sometimes bad news like banning Bitcoin or mining effects the market as well. If you check the history, it happened multiple times.

I thought he would say the screenshots were taken from his brother's side for some reason. But, I was surprised when he asked if 1miau understand how Whatsapp works. Or maybe he did not understand the question due to language barriers.

Of course, the account changed hands and he admits it. But, he came up with lies over and over. But, I am curious how the community will take such cases if they tell the truth. I read BitcoinGirl's previous post and I am curious. I don't think I've seen anyone get a chance from the community. At the same time, I did not see anyone create a thread saying they are guilty of something. Maybe because they are afraid of getting a negative tag from the DT network?

He bought the account, got exposed, and got some negative tags. The question in my head is, What if he does not come up with stories and tell the community "Yes, I bought the account". How community would react then? Give him a 2nd chance, or tag him? If the community still tags him, what is the difference between being honest and lying?

I have no problem if Moderators want to give someone a second chance. Even if they think someone deserves several chances, that's okay. But, it should vary from member to member. You have to see who the member is. If it's someone prominent member or someone who has the potential to contribute positively. You may give them several chances to prove themselves. I saw ETFBitcoin reported several plagiarisms of the same user and he is still doing the same shit every day.

A permanent ban is too harsh with the ban evading rule. But, when you are giving them several chances and you see he continues doing the same shit. You should think about it. If you see the same user doing it again and again, you shouldn't forgive them every time. Users like Jamesborn, Godlovesyou, and many more deserves punishment for what they doing.

Yeah, I said that because there are a bunch of inactive accounts. They just signed up and then forgot that they have a Bitcointalk account. There are other scenarios as well. People signed up, and they login here and read posts as well. But they feel like they don't have anything to share anymore. Take sirius as an example. He was active this month (In terms of Login date). But the last post he wrote was back in 2014. He did not write a single word in the last eight years. His activity is the same as Satoshi's. The only difference is that we don't know if Satoshi is alive.

I see some old forum members use weird terms I never heard of. I don't know many things even though I have been here for a few years. I don't know the secret of Foxpup's Merit Cycling Club. I don't know why Foxpup is paying for wearing avatars. I don't know enough about Thick Daddy, The Rusty Pipe and many more.

I think so. The roulette game has been on the market since the 18th century. But we don't know for how long we using modern technology roulette. We don't know who has invented such cheating methods. How long have they done it? We have been in the modern industry for a long time now. Must be over 20 years? Imagine they have been cheating for 20 years, which is a long time, and you don't know.

They know the risk as well. But, if they use it for a couple of months, they already made more than they can make in a calendar year. It's always hard to make money in a legit way. Once they know they can cheat players, they will continue doing it until people catch them doing shit. So, they still do it knowing that they can get busted.

I've never been to a casino physically. So, I don't know what are they doing there. But, if they have a chance to cheat, of course, they will take the chance. I believe online casinos have more chances to cheat compared to offline physical casinos.

I can't blame you for not knowing the solution. I understand that theymos don't want to put more restrictions and keep the forum as free as possible. But Forum Mods can update the forum rules over time, especially for AI. Some people use AI to write posts; when you ask them more about it, they cannot tell you in detail. They don't even know what they are talking about. There are a bunch of tools that they can utilize so they don't get caught. At first, they write content using GPT, then they use paraphrase tools so you cannot detect AI Writing using another AI.


That's why bounty participants paid for (For spam).

Whatever you say, I don't want to give them extreme power by blindly accepting all of their TOS. You may say they are not practicing such things with their users. Well, they do. Binance had a bad habit of applying their Controversial TOS against their users. During the Dogechain upgrade, Binance Mistakenly did some transactions twice a few years ago. It was their developer's mistake. To recover those funds, Binance locked their user's accounts and asked them to deposit to unlock their account. Imagine you withdrew 500K Dogecoin to an unknown wallet address about a year ago.

After a year, Binance sent another 500K Doge to this address, and now they ask you to return that amount. You may don't have access to this wallet anymore. How would you return them? Also, There was a massive pump of Dogecoin. Just imagine your 500K Doge was worth $100 only. But, when Binance asked you for a refund, 500K Doge was worth around USD 80K.

You can read more here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5370726.0

This is the result of the Ultimate power of Their TOS. They blocked the user's account and confiscated the funds for not refunding the money, which was sent to an unknown address.

To be honest, I didn't get you either. What are you trying to say here?
Is Bitcoin old? Let's say it's old, considering the time it's here. This one is the first-ever cryptocurrency which still Leading the market. But, What is the point, then? He said Bitcoin is outdated, which poked into my head. Well, No. Over time, We have seen many BIP, including Taproot and SegWit updates.

Developers are always trying to keep Bitcoin updated so users never get bored. SegWit update made Bitcoin Block lightweight, so it can contain more transactions in a single block, making user transactions significantly cheap. There are other BIPs that developers worked on; I may not know what's happening. Regarding software migration, Bitcoin Core is the official software of Bitcoin, and the developers release updates every few weeks. The current updated version is 24.0.1, which you can find from here https://bitcointalk.org/bitcoin-24.0.1.torrent

If you have any point that can back your claim, I am ready to read that. Can you please explain why do you agree that Bitcoin is outdated? 

Not only you. I believe most forum users don't know what is hiding behind their TOS Power. Their TOS is their power. I had a little conversation with o_e_l_e_o here, and then I decided to create a new thread to give a warning to forum users about the TOS of Centralized exchanges. You can find it here; Do you know what is hiding behind the Centralized exchanges User Agreement?. Guess what? Very few people read that, and I don't think people are interested to know what is hiding behind their TOS.  

Still, I hope people will search on the internet, and I hope they can find my topic in one of the search results. I can scream and write TONs of words on the internet, and people won't read and hear me until they suffer from the same thing. At least you read and responded here. Many people don't.

You always have options on the market. Centralized Exchange's trading volume is huge (Over 99%). You shouldn't hold your funds there. You can use them to exchange your coins unless you do not have any options out there. Still, I would suggest avoiding them if you can.

Their domain Lookup said they are from USA. 18 San Carlos Street, Los Angeles, California is their registration address. Of course, this is a fake address to register their domain. Since the business is to scam people, there is no reason they will register with their original information. But, At least they could use the same address in all three places. So it would look more trustworthy. Anyways, Thanks OP for bringing them here. I think I had never heard of them before. They registered the domain in October 2022. So, it's already six months old. I don't think they will come here.

This is their domain info.

I am not a professional trader. Sometimes I do it for fun to see how it goes. I don't think all strategies work all the time. The strategy work and depend on your position and market moves. The same strategy cannot work for everyone. Your and others' positions are not the same. Sometimes, the same strategy doesn't work for everyone even though we are in the same market move. Don't blindly trust any strategies. The market always doesn't follow the same pattern.

If you use any strategy, don't follow them all the time. Make your own decision when you need to. About Old Strategies, Sometimes they may work. If you are experienced with the old strategy or whatever you say. You won't forget them. You cannot forget them (Even if you try). A Monkey never forgets how to claim trees, even if it gets older and older.

Indeed, you will be able to control your emotions over time. At least, I feel that from my own experience. Feelings depend on your previous experience and your age as well. I remember back in the old days; I cried a lot when I lost my smartphone. At that time, I wasn't able to control myself. A Year ago, Couple of my computer with my Mining GPU's Burned in a thunder storm. I was sad but still if I compare my feelings with that two incident, The first one was more deep.

Sometimes those things depends on how much experienced you are. Sometimes you will realize that you are not getting hurted anymore. A few weeks ago I lost a couple of hundred dollars assets and my feeling was like whatever, Go ON. These things happens. If your age is over 30, I would say go for what you love most. If you have toddlers, spend time with them. This is the most busy and relaxing thing.