It's falling back to 320...
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Nice work gum shoe...I did have some problems with a partner, but it had nothing to do with coinpal thats for sure. And yes, the information I garnered from my research is what I am relaying here. But i was out closer to 40k as bitcoin was still rising. And my suit would of been against 1 person, not a company. My funds were essentially stolen from me, which makes it a lot different and easier to prove. But yeah, it is all just a waste of time. I am merely a very small investor in coinpal, and when I invest in cryptostocks; I go in knowing that I will probably never see the money again. If it does come back, I consider it amazing. I am sticking up for Coinpal because I am an investor like everyone else with no proof that it is a scam. And all this bad publicity is going to hurt my investment when it starts trading. When people google coinpal this thread will come up so we are all fucked the way I see it. No one goes near a company after scam accusations are thrown around. Plus, people said they received their USB miners and there were pictures presented. However, you can shove it all up your cunt badpeanut. Like I give a shit about what some hacks think on bitcointalk If we are talking pictures as well...  There is a picture of twenty grand.. Something that I had once but am yet to see it returned. |
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Nice work gum shoe...I did have some problems with a partner, but it had nothing to do with coinpal thats for sure. And yes, the information I garnered from my research is what I am relaying here. But i was out closer to 40k as bitcoin was still rising. And my suit would of been against 1 person, not a company. My funds were essentially stolen from me, which makes it a lot different and easier to prove. But yeah, it is all just a waste of time. I am merely a very small investor in coinpal, and when I invest in cryptostocks; I go in knowing that I will probably never see the money again. If it does come back, I consider it amazing. I am sticking up for Coinpal because I am an investor like everyone else with no proof that it is a scam. And all this bad publicity is going to hurt my investment when it starts trading. When people google coinpal this thread will come up so we are all fucked the way I see it. No one goes near a company after scam accusations are thrown around. Plus, people said they received their USB miners and there were pictures presented. However, you can shove it all up your cunt badpeanut. Like I give a shit about what some hacks think on bitcointalk You sound like an angry 12 year old. Badpeanuts speculation is thought provoking though. Still no reply from Ryan Gay. 1 report of a miner being received and has anyone received their dividends today? |
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For the 2 message above here.
U guys should understand if ryan gay make false promisses to R.M and lied about there are more team members of coinpal, just to cheat more % out of the profit that is nasty thinking man. No wonder he has work so hard because there arent more members. If i was R.M. i was pulling my invest also out if its possible.
As far as I can understand from this thread: Ryan was taken in a a team member to calm down trolls such as yourself, so that the rest of the team would be able to focus on the job instead of answering "fear, uncertainty and doubt" (aka FUD). As R.M. himself so aptly put it: "I have the ability to connect with anyone and trigger any emotional response through words *even on a screen*."Well, he failed his official agenda and joined the trolls - generating more FUD than anyone else before him. If our programmer is one or more doesn't really matter. I know McxNow were made by only one very strong character, why can't Coinpal? Take a ticket or more if you can afford to loose it. If not; control your envy and stay away! Its been an interesting four days of twist and turns with CoinPal with the following summary;; 1. Coinpal made an IPO offer with the only contact being contact@coinpal.net2. At point of IPO offer , Ryan Gay , is the registrant/owner of record for the domain, coinpal.net. 3. To date Coinpal.net has paid promised dividends as of when due and is scheduled to launch on the 18th of April 2014, with no postponement announcement to date. 4. Ryan Milligan has publicly declared that he later had access to the Coinpal user account on this thread, allegedly after an arrangement with Ryan Gay,making him a partner, although he never perfected any legal document making him a partner. 5. Ryan Milligan then became the public voice of Coinpal.net, making sweet offers and whatnot to promote the IPO using the CoinPal username on this thread. 6. Later he switched to another username, Ryan-Coinpal, after which he first raised concern about authenthicity of CoinPal and its principal partners, after he claimed he had not heard from CoinPal’s principals. 7. After the registrant/owner contact details was publicly shared on this forum, Ryan Mulligan was absent from the forum for an extended period and came back saying his account had been hacked. He further said he got an email from chris@coinpal.net to his (RM) email address at coinpal.net, saying Ryan Gay is ill in the hospital. 8. To date no directly attributable communication has been heard from Ryan Gay. All directly attributable communication about CoinPal has been from Ryan Mulligan, either directly or by hearsay of what someone else said. 9. Now Ryan Mulligan says the elusive and never-been heard from Ryan Gay is buying him out. Everyone else is on his/her own. Meanwhile Coinpal seem to be meeting obligations to date, with reports of mining gear being received. Will the real Ryan Gay please standup and take-up ownership/control or appoint a competent person for investor communication. Your summary is correct to an extent but you forget to mention the little things that are what is making this such a mess. Why does he not come here and explain the truth? Where is the demo he promised me for all of you? No one is on their own, I'm still the voice for behind the scenes but nothings changed for a while. I think he was waiting for BTC to rise and then make me an offer, I'll accept it if it's $20'000 in BTC before launch. If not then I want 50BTC back regardless of price and we set dates when he will pay and there will have to be a considerable payment upfront for me to sign that logo/graphics over. Coinpal haven't met obligations they allowed me to promise you all, like the working demo, the nano-miners. Maybe dividends are paid but are dividends being paid from what we invested? Or from the real source suggested? Photos are not substantial evidence. |
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Wow what a mess! Thanks tricomp for the summary!!
I don't own a lot of shares (almost negligible) in coinpal, but I got quite the scare right after BAMM on cryptostocks posted the link to this topic. The guys that have plenty invested in this probably got a really nasty scare out of this, especially just before coinpal paid the last dividend.
I wish the experience of buying shares in projects on cryptostocks was less of a roller coaster ride.
He seems to take ages to reply. I gave him two choices yesterday on ways to buy me out but with BTC going up, he should do it asap as if I invest 50BTC, I am due 50BTC back due to the way it is taxed. If he can offer me enough at once i.e before they go live, I'll accept it and be done with this. If he offered me 40BTC right now, I'd take it and be gone as that's my $ investment back but technically he would still owe me the extra 12.5 but I'd forget about that. Thats if he gets back to me before Friday launch date. If it takes longer I want every BTC back before I sign any graphic/logo over to him for ownership. The other was he could pay me back in full, and I would still market for him. I sent him a few logo files. They are registered in my name and although they are coinpal logos, the logos belong to me. If he uses them on a exchange without my permission then that is illegal and they will be destroyed due to the name being his/the logo file belonging to me. He reckons he paid for them. He paid $1000 towards what I paid closer to $3000 for as I had to buy several from designers to get the best choice. I really don't understand his delayed replies, and he reads this thread as he mentions it time to time - why doesn't he defend himself? Would it not be easier for him to get back to me asap instead of every 36 hours and just making himself look bad. It just makes me think he is trying to buy time for something (speculation on my part) I mean he said he spent most of my money launching it. Well since then there has been about 30BTC invested by others + the investors from before the I.P.O and he said he had a 30BTC marketing budget put aside it all doesn't add up, along with as soon as someone posting his info him asking godaddy for the privacy settings on whois. He can't really scam us now cause we know who he is, where he lives etc but why not buy me out, then I'll come in here and let everyone know we came to a deal and I was bought out at least that way, he gets me off his back, I'll even give him the details of the marketing I had pre-arranged but with 2 days time he's cutting it short trying any type of hype other than the reversal marketing I used in this thread. I hyped it up with my ridiculousness so people would be watching and if he actually came forward with an exchange the thought to be scam would actually be something that was one of a kind but when I took a closer look there was way to many things I didn't like the look of to continue doing so and as a investor I though I should let you all know in case you invested as well but I was ridiculed for that. The hacker thing was a mix up, just bad timing and looked like Coinpal locked me out but it wasn't them as far as I can tell. But where are the miners promised? The photos of mining gear could be from anyone, if I offered one of you to take a photo of your TV and make it look like mine for $500 you probably would, right? The way I was talked to as well, the textual analysis I did on it, the other partners spelling common words wrong the same, the phrases used. They were most likely Ryan Gay himself. I don't doubt his attempts at making this work, he is just in over his head now and needs to come forward buy everyone out who wants out who has an actual majority share in this business and tell everyone 'look I'm trying give me some time to get this up and running' From previous experience I should see a reply in the next 6-10 hours from him. |
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He replied two hours ago asking for all the logo files/graphics I had. I gave him the main one, he says he will buy me out but cant just now, when he replies I'll see what he can offer me now. If it's acceptable, I'll take it and make him sign an online contract saying on X date he pays me X amount for the rest.
All it took was a 25 minute phone call to his dads company, and days of investigating everything I could find on him. He says launch will be most likely postponed. I'm still out of this one I get rid of the shares though. I cant work with people who cant take 5 minutes out their day to let the forum know they haven't robbed them.
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Yea i agree with above, just have to wait till 18th
If there is an actually an exchange I'll run down the busiest street in scotland naked. He cant even reply to an email, how does he expect to run a multi-million dollar business that he made out coinpal would be. He said he got blood clots in his legs from from sitting at his desk working so hard cause he'd fall asleep in his chair and he'd been working so hard for a month.  Well I've been working off 3-4 hours sleep on average a night for a year and I'm fine. I will screenshot our emails and you can read the stories. It is typical ranting behaviour styled craziness. @AmericanBit - Do you really think his father will want his sons name to be related to a fairly large scam? Perfect timing with gox too, 'Another evil computer scammer'. I don't want his fathers money, I want my money back off of Ryan. It's not hard to prove he ran it, registered it and the scammed (although thats speculation until the 18th) and he works for his father doing the business promotion and what not. Who wants to use a company that has known scammers on board, it indirectly effects Franks business and it would be in his best interest to make his son pay back what he stole. He wouldn't fight it, GoDaddy will give everything up in a second. Then there's the proof. the emails to me. One of my lawyers is for crypto stuff so he is already aware of many of the laws. It's principle, now. One news paper story about the biggest plumbing/renovation owners sons pulling off a 'evil internet money scam' is very bad for your businesses credibility. Yup, I 100% agree. Also, do we know by the IP address if Ryan Gay used the workplace network and computers to enact all of this? If so, I'm sure that would look very bad for his dad. Not all of them but sometimes there were connections from a network (always the same one) so most likely while he was at work or whatever, he'd email, post etc. That could make his father look involved and I'm sure thats the last thing Frank wants for his business. @AmericanBit - are you telling me if someone phoned you tomorrow and said ' your sons stolen 20 grand off me, I can prove it in a court. He used your network occasionally to do so. This could effect your business, it makes you look involved ' You wouldn't be bothered at all the, no? Well stealing 20k isnt really what happened here. Like you said, it looks like he tried to do it right, but got in over his head. WHich is possible i guess. So he went into it with the best of intentions from what you have found out. Thats a lot different than just stealing 20k. So if my son stole 20k knowing he was stealing it all along, Id kick his ass. But if he was just trying to be entrepreneurial by raising the money thru crowd funding using these bitscoins I keep reading about and dont really understand. In that case it would be a different scenario and I would probably just say, oh well... There is a disclaimer that warns you your money could be completely lost in the IPO, so i mean its all very grey... DISCLAIMER All investment opportunities have potential risks involved, and CoinPal is no different. Please do your due diligence in order to find out what these risks are, and suit yourself accordingly. He still has the money. He offered to buy me out if I deleted my posts yesterday. The prof they showed me of the actual exchange was pathetic, I was naive about that. I seen no working feature, nothing. He could have paid a graphic designer to show what he showed me. At the end of the day, he hasn't been in here once bar to post photos and the original I.P.O and like 3 other posts (which he could pay someone else to take photos of their mining gear) he was reluctant to introduce himself when I demanded. Where is he now? Where has he been for a week? I don't care for disclaimers when I know the person I invested the money in to still has it. Yes, that is stealing. Any honest man says sorry I'm in over my head, here is your money back. The offer of partner was probably just so I bought more shares. |
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Yea i agree with above, just have to wait till 18th
If there is an actually an exchange I'll run down the busiest street in scotland naked. He cant even reply to an email, how does he expect to run a multi-million dollar business that he made out coinpal would be. He said he got blood clots in his legs from from sitting at his desk working so hard cause he'd fall asleep in his chair and he'd been working so hard for a month. Well I've been working off 3-4 hours sleep on average a night for a year and I'm fine. I will screenshot our emails and you can read the stories. It is typical ranting behaviour styled craziness. @AmericanBit - Do you really think his father will want his sons name to be related to a fairly large scam? Perfect timing with gox too, 'Another evil computer scammer'. I don't want his fathers money, I want my money back off of Ryan. It's not hard to prove he ran it, registered it and the scammed (although thats speculation until the 18th) and he works for his father doing the business promotion and what not. Who wants to use a company that has known scammers on board, it indirectly effects Franks business and it would be in his best interest to make his son pay back what he stole. He wouldn't fight it, GoDaddy will give everything up in a second. Then there's the proof. the emails to me. One of my lawyers is for crypto stuff so he is already aware of many of the laws. It's principle, now. One news paper story about the biggest plumbing/renovation owners sons pulling off a 'evil internet money scam' is very bad for your businesses credibility. Yup, I 100% agree. Also, do we know by the IP address if Ryan Gay used the workplace network and computers to enact all of this? If so, I'm sure that would look very bad for his dad. Not all of them but sometimes there were connections from a network (always the same one) so most likely while he was at work or whatever, he'd email, post etc. That could make his father look involved and I'm sure thats the last thing Frank wants for his business. @AmericanBit - are you telling me if someone phoned you tomorrow and said ' your sons stolen 20 grand off me, I can prove it in a court. He used your network occasionally to do so. This could effect your business, it makes you look involved ' You wouldn't be bothered at all the, no? |
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Yea i agree with above, just have to wait till 18th
If there is an actually an exchange I'll run down the busiest street in scotland naked. He cant even reply to an email, how does he expect to run a multi-million dollar business that he made out coinpal would be. He said he got blood clots in his legs from from sitting at his desk working so hard cause he'd fall asleep in his chair and he'd been working so hard for a month. Well I've been working off 3-4 hours sleep on average a night for a year and I'm fine. I will screenshot our emails and you can read the stories. It is typical ranting behaviour styled craziness. @AmericanBit - Do you really think his father will want his sons name to be related to a fairly large scam? Perfect timing with gox too, 'Another evil computer scammer'. I don't want his fathers money, I want my money back off of Ryan. It's not hard to prove he ran it, registered it and the scammed (although thats speculation until the 18th) and he works for his father doing the business promotion and what not. Who wants to use a company that has known scammers on board, it indirectly effects Franks business and it would be in his best interest to make his son pay back what he stole. He wouldn't fight it, GoDaddy will give everything up in a second. Then there's the proof. the emails to me. One of my lawyers is for crypto stuff so he is already aware of many of the laws. It's principle, now. One news paper story about the biggest plumbing/renovation owners sons pulling off a 'evil internet money scam' is very bad for your businesses credibility. And this isnt a large scam...google bernie madoff. Thats a large scam...40k is nothing in the world of scams...especially from hundreds of people. Plus, half came from you so you say. So its really 20k over hundreds of people...really not that much in the real world, but its not cool i agree You've seen pictures of mining gear. What about the exchange? Why isnt Ryan in here defending himself now? Come on, he was trying to pull a runner I reckon, only problem being he had good intentions to begin with so didnt try and be anonymous. Anyway, I don't care if it's real now. I don't trust him, I want my investment back regardless. Who cares how big it is? He stole 20 thousand dollars off me and I plan on getting it back. It's not going to be difficult. Computer hackers/thieves etc look at the sentences they get. This is a jail-able offence. I don't want him to go to prison, I want my money back, but if I don't get it, he can go rot in prison hopefully and learn to work hard for things and not steal from those who do. |
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Yea i agree with above, just have to wait till 18th
If there is an actually an exchange I'll run down the busiest street in scotland naked. He cant even reply to an email, how does he expect to run a multi-million dollar business that he made out coinpal would be. He said he got blood clots in his legs from from sitting at his desk working so hard cause he'd fall asleep in his chair and he'd been working so hard for a month. Well I've been working off 3-4 hours sleep on average a night for a year and I'm fine. I will screenshot our emails and you can read the stories. It is typical ranting behaviour styled craziness. @AmericanBit - Do you really think his father will want his sons name to be related to a fairly large scam? Perfect timing with gox too, 'Another evil computer scammer'. I don't want his fathers money, I want my money back off of Ryan. It's not hard to prove he ran it, registered it and the scammed (although thats speculation until the 18th) and he works for his father doing the business promotion and what not. Who wants to use a company that has known scammers on board, it indirectly effects Franks business and it would be in his best interest to make his son pay back what he stole. He wouldn't fight it, GoDaddy will give everything up in a second. Then there's the proof. the emails to me. One of my lawyers is for crypto stuff so he is already aware of many of the laws. It's principle, now. One news paper story about the biggest plumbing/renovation owners sons pulling off a 'evil internet money scam' is very bad for your businesses credibility. |
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I have never seen so much bullshit on a single topic... or so many Ryans, for that matter. Really people, REALLY? All I know is that Ryan is a scammer. Doesn't matter which personality he chooses, he's still the scammer. EDIT: By the way, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=566313.0 was a really nice thought-out idea to not sound like a scammer. I laughed. Bribe me. 18vuadhcfX6RNLW5yyucx8XNB6uTfpwZCd So I'm a scammer that openly gives away my home and personal info, I'm a good one. Thought this out well. Who am I scamming exactly? How am I getting anyones coins? Coinpal belongs to Ryan Tyson Gay, I am a marketer that just so happened to be a majority shareholder and when talking to him he hired me as a marketer then decided that he wanted to ask if I wanted a partnership place. I accepted. I gave Ryan (owner) the opportunity to buy my 71'000 shares for below market value. I then offered 2-4 weeks of free marketing before during and sustaining after the launch, from that he would then reimburse whatever I have to pay for and depending on profits we work out a % that I then become partner in. That way he has nothing to lose, I lose my say in the decision making until I prove my marketing skills and he gets the full partner profits for the first 2-4 weeks. Now, who can I possibly scam? I would have no shares. I'd be marketing with my own money. I am taking all the risk here. Well its possible tho. You both got caught, now need a backup plan. I think ryan gay has more to lose then u sinds his father has a company. And the Ip's were from the company. The only reason u guys want to save urself is ryan gay his name or you are one person. I dont know anymore. So many ryans, so many accounts here. If ryan gay was legit why does he not coming to defend himself and block his name on GOdaddy when ppl here revealed his idenitity. Obviously he was in the hospital, coincidence i guess. But dont u think ppl are skeptical about u after your blow up, and make numerous accounts here (forum) and never talk to them on Skype for real and having 2 CS accounts, that ppl arent agreeing with u? And u have misleading ppl here by putting the Mining Photos. It was u who put those photos here to convince us. Either they are real or not u we dont know Ryan put the photos up, not me. (Ryan Gay) Have you not been following along that I was hacked by someone and they kept changing my passwords. So I had to open new accounts until I figured a way to lock them out of my email/hostgator. Ryan-Coinpal - was me but is now compromised/password changed and I asked for it to be deleted. RyanMilligan - was me but I forget to put the password down and it was a random generated one. Coinpal, was Ryan Gay. Except the couple of posts I made introducing myself. The account I am on now is the one I'll stick too. I don't know mate. Thats stressing me out as much as you. I offered him an unreal deal (a month of free marketing and he could have all my shares) so I have no say in the company. I was going to pay marketing from my own pocket and then at the end of the month be reimbursed, but he still wont reply. Not had an email from him all day. EDIT: I am making Coinpal (Ryan Gay) buy the shares back off me at market rate and then I am having NOTHING to do with Coinpal. He is doing suspicious things, like hiding his name on GoDaddy as soon as we start getting a bit weary. I was given a number to call his father, badpeanut is going to call first to make sure it is legit before I go spending like $250 on a phone call from the UK. I will do my best to try and get everyone who wants their money back, out. There was never a chris, I spent today analyzing the writing styles. Coinpal had 1 owner/partner - Ryan Tyson Gay. Thank god I never signed any legal documents. I will hopefully get through to the father on the phone and will tell him simply, you have a huge amount of angry investors who want their money back from your son. I suggest you make him pay or legal action will be taken or even worse as I'm sure some of you investors are angry and live nearby. This is my personal twitter account if you want to find me: @RyanMilligan2 I am not Ryan Gay, I've never met him. It's clear to me he started with good intentions, but he simply couldn't run Coinpal the way it needed to be ran and so went AWOL/Scamming. Here is his linkedin profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/ryantysongayOk, so if this guy ryan gray is the one in charge, we should leave his family out of it. Im sure they were not involved, and having strangers blow up their phone saying crazy shit that no one outside of crypto will understand, isnt really fair to them. Secondly, a lawsuit isnt really an option at all from what I can tell. There are too many people involved, and too little money. This is crypto, lawyers dont really understand it anyway. Then you bring in am unregulated stock exchange and they will laugh you out of the building most likely. Its all a grey area, and lawyers love grey, but you cant pay them enough to recoup what has been lost by us. I mean, most, like myself probably lost less than 1 bitcoin; and if this Milligan guy really lost 50 btc and lives in the UK, good luck suing an American and ever seeing a dime of that 20k. Thirdly, as far as living nearby. I have lived in Florida, and you can shoot anyone, anytime if you feel threatened. Its called the "stand your ground" law. So if your "even worse" involves threatening this guys physical wellbeing. I would watch yourself. Someone shows up at my door threatening me or my family, I would put them down. But thats just how I roll... But there is no proof this is even a scam which is why this is just crazy. Just a modern day witch hunt from what I can tell. Someryan posted pics of the mining gear and the USBs, so I dont really see what all the fuss is about Not at all, he works for his father. I have a few state side based attorneys due to large marketing projects. Ryan wont reply to me. I'll speak to his father like he's a little kid or something if he's going to act like that. I've had to go through it before for less, and I lost $4000 from $17'000 in fees and such and then a little in conversions. but its better than nothing. So probably $5000 of the 17000 I was owed I lost. Getting $12000 of money your owed is better than losing 17'000? Yes? Ignore my PM from yesterday, after Ryan seen what I had done, the tactic I was using he went in a hissy fit and made up another ridiculous story and threatened to take my shares off me and leave me with nothing. Looks like he's trying to do that to us all anyway. Yes, you realise what he did now dont you? Either took the money to buy the gear to make money for himself. Made fake demo showings, made aliases (chris) and then use the mining gear to pay until he milked it and then take off. As soon as his name was discovered he went to Godaddy and demanded privacy mode on the account. I'm not suing his father, I'm sure he's an honest man. I couldnt care less. I want to tell him what his sons done and that I'll take legal action if he (Ryan) doesnt pay me back. |
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So, Ryan M me old mate, where's this passport of yours?
I forgot about that. I gave you my twitter: @RyanMilligan2 - I know you don't like links. I will do the passport thing in the morning, 2.00am UK time and I am using my laptop from my bed. I suppose, I can webcam shot it and then cross out id number. Will that do you? |
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Read above edit. I'm not an official partner (legally) I am making this guy pay me back and then no longer associating with Coinpal.
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I have never seen so much bullshit on a single topic... or so many Ryans, for that matter. Really people, REALLY? All I know is that Ryan is a scammer. Doesn't matter which personality he chooses, he's still the scammer. EDIT: By the way, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=566313.0 was a really nice thought-out idea to not sound like a scammer. I laughed. Bribe me. 18vuadhcfX6RNLW5yyucx8XNB6uTfpwZCd So I'm a scammer that openly gives away my home and personal info, I'm a good one. Thought this out well. Who am I scamming exactly? How am I getting anyones coins? Coinpal belongs to Ryan Tyson Gay, I am a marketer that just so happened to be a majority shareholder and when talking to him he hired me as a marketer then decided that he wanted to ask if I wanted a partnership place. I accepted. I gave Ryan (owner) the opportunity to buy my 71'000 shares for below market value. I then offered 2-4 weeks of free marketing before during and sustaining after the launch, from that he would then reimburse whatever I have to pay for and depending on profits we work out a % that I then become partner in. That way he has nothing to lose, I lose my say in the decision making until I prove my marketing skills and he gets the full partner profits for the first 2-4 weeks. Now, who can I possibly scam? I would have no shares. I'd be marketing with my own money. I am taking all the risk here. Well its possible tho. You both got caught, now need a backup plan. I think ryan gay has more to lose then u sinds his father has a company. And the Ip's were from the company. The only reason u guys want to save urself is ryan gay his name or you are one person. I dont know anymore. So many ryans, so many accounts here. If ryan gay was legit why does he not coming to defend himself and block his name on GOdaddy when ppl here revealed his idenitity. Obviously he was in the hospital, coincidence i guess. But dont u think ppl are skeptical about u after your blow up, and make numerous accounts here (forum) and never talk to them on Skype for real and having 2 CS accounts, that ppl arent agreeing with u? And u have misleading ppl here by putting the Mining Photos. It was u who put those photos here to convince us. Either they are real or not u we dont know Ryan put the photos up, not me. (Ryan Gay) Have you not been following along that I was hacked by someone and they kept changing my passwords. So I had to open new accounts until I figured a way to lock them out of my email/hostgator. Ryan-Coinpal - was me but is now compromised/password changed and I asked for it to be deleted. RyanMilligan - was me but I forget to put the password down and it was a random generated one. Coinpal, was Ryan Gay. Except the couple of posts I made introducing myself. The account I am on now is the one I'll stick too. I don't know mate. Thats stressing me out as much as you. I offered him an unreal deal (a month of free marketing and he could have all my shares) so I have no say in the company. I was going to pay marketing from my own pocket and then at the end of the month be reimbursed, but he still wont reply. Not had an email from him all day. EDIT: I am making Coinpal (Ryan Gay) buy the shares back off me at market rate and then I am having NOTHING to do with Coinpal. He is doing suspicious things, like hiding his name on GoDaddy as soon as we start getting a bit weary. I was given a number to call his father, badpeanut is going to call first to make sure it is legit before I go spending like $250 on a phone call from the UK. I will do my best to try and get everyone who wants their money back, out. There was never a chris, I spent today analyzing the writing styles. Coinpal had 1 owner/partner - Ryan Tyson Gay. Thank god I never signed any legal documents. I will hopefully get through to the father on the phone and will tell him simply, you have a huge amount of angry investors who want their money back from your son. I suggest you make him pay or legal action will be taken or even worse as I'm sure some of you investors are angry and live nearby. This is my personal twitter account if you want to find me: @RyanMilligan2 I am not Ryan Gay, I've never met him. It's clear to me he started with good intentions, but he simply couldn't run Coinpal the way it needed to be ran and so went AWOL/Scamming. Here is his linkedin profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/ryantysongay |
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Weird, i never logged out of this forum once before sinds i register here. I send this ryan guy a PM and then my browser keep laggin. Then i was logged off
I had to reset my password
When coming back ryan is offline, very weird or coincident
Now you have a personal problem with me and are making me look like some kind of hacker. You've been reported. Accusations like that can't be thrown around because you got logged out. My PM was text based. I said I'd give you 0.85 for the shares if you wanted out that bad. Srry about it, i guess it was just coincidence. Like i said it was weird. I dont mind u report me because i have really reset my my password just for security. Also if u read the message below me another person was logged off aswell. About the PM, ur offer was 0.61 Not sure why u say here 0.85 here My bad, I never sent it sorry. It still stands though .85 for them. |
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The Ryan Tyson Gray of Orlando, FL?
Its sounds like this Ryan Tyson Gray is the fall guy. Find a sucker with the same first name, and frame him. Oldest trick in the book. This guy may be better than we all thought. Bad idea giving out your address on this thread. I wouldnt open any strange looking packages if I were you. Go on his linked in, he's open about it. Or do you mean me? I dont get how a marketer that will have no shares and will be doing work for free can scam anyone? That is a good question, anyone received the nano miners? |
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Weird, i never logged out of this forum once before sinds i register here. I send this ryan guy a PM and then my browser keep laggin. Then i was logged off
I had to reset my password
When coming back ryan is offline, very weird or coincident
Now you have a personal problem with me and are making me look like some kind of hacker. You've been reported. Accusations like that can't be thrown around because you got logged out. My PM was text based. I said I'd give you 0.85 for the shares if you wanted out that bad. |
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I have never seen so much bullshit on a single topic... or so many Ryans, for that matter. Really people, REALLY? All I know is that Ryan is a scammer. Doesn't matter which personality he chooses, he's still the scammer. EDIT: By the way, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=566313.0 was a really nice thought-out idea to not sound like a scammer. I laughed. Bribe me. 18vuadhcfX6RNLW5yyucx8XNB6uTfpwZCd So I'm a scammer that openly gives away my home and personal info, I'm a good one. Thought this out well. Who am I scamming exactly? How am I getting anyones coins? Coinpal belongs to Ryan Tyson Gay, I am a marketer that just so happened to be a majority shareholder and when talking to him he hired me as a marketer then decided that he wanted to ask if I wanted a partnership place. I accepted. I gave Ryan (owner) the opportunity to buy my 71'000 shares for below market value. I then offered 2-4 weeks of free marketing before during and sustaining after the launch, from that he would then reimburse whatever I have to pay for and depending on profits we work out a % that I then become partner in. That way he has nothing to lose, I lose my say in the decision making until I prove my marketing skills and he gets the full partner profits for the first 2-4 weeks. Now, who can I possibly scam? I would have no shares. I'd be marketing with my own money. I am taking all the risk here. |
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RYAN MILLIGAN
6 BREAC AN ORD
MARYBURGH
DINGWALL
IV7 8DH
Ok, let's cut through all the BS. Ryan Milligan, if you are who you say you are, the provide us with proof; scan your driver's license or passport or some other legal ID document and post it here. You can blank out your passport / license ID number if you like and also put a diagonal line through your photo so that no one can steal your identity, but the rest of the document must stay untouched. Decent resolution & clarity please. I'll do it in the morning with a passport, it's 3.00am here. I will be up by 7.00am and should have it done by 11.30am. |
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What a car crash of a thread, if I were behind CoinPal I'd want this somewhat aggressive and naive RyanMilligan character as far away from it as possible, keeps referring to himself and CoinPal as "we" yet in the other thread stated he hasn't signed any documentation to be an official partner.
So you're basically a mouthpiece (who flogs recycled marketing advice I notice) who shoots his mouth off at the first sign of trouble -- which incidentally was probably your own fault, with you hinting it was malware to blame -- and you expect to be sent 30 BTC to advertise with just like that? I wouldn't trust you with 0.3 BTC from what I've just read.
Couldn't make it up, nice job.
My god, I couldnt have said it any better myself...this ryan milligan is a pre pubescent child that shouldnt even be on a computer. Youre embarrassing bro, and if I were coinpal, I would never of had anything to do with you. You may be a marketing kid, but you have no business sense whatsoever. I really just want to punch you in the nose to be honest. This is fucking bitcoin, it doesnt take 15k to advertise in this space. You hit up all the forums, the reddits, the jerk off news sites, and thats it. If you wasted 30 btc on advertising I would punch you in the balls for being a retard, which is what you have sounded like all thru this thread. God damn, get your shit together. You should be punched in the balls anyway for investing 60 btcs in something you have never even seen. You deserve to lose that money...and lawsuit? Its fuckin cryptostocks dude, its all fucking scams for the most part. Anyone with 1 btc and a heartbeat can list anything. No attorney is going to represent you for a share of the 20K you lost...thats fuckin peanuts bro. My gox is getting sued because people lost hundreds of millions...20K is dick weed money and a cheap lesson for a child like yourself. Seacrest Out! Okay gentleman, I am a dick I am aware of that. I'm angry that people think I'm a scammer. As for marketing do you have a portfolio that shows you on average get your clients a 214% profit increase in 3 month periods? I do, I'm proud of it. I'm the majority shareholder, just like any of you invested you want your money protected, yes? Well, I'm doing my fucking best here to keep you all updated with what is happening with your money and i'm being abused for it. If it's a disaster when it launches, fine. I'll just dump all my shares and it'll crash and that'll give you something else to cry about. If you want a real exchange that is not what you do thats where you attract people just looking to join a twitter group and pump and dump. We want to launch a knowledge centre, along with newbie courses and actually teach people how to trade, how to analyse, have expert traders give out tips. This is what the 30BTC goes to, incentives to get the big players and not the people playing with pennies. Traders are happy where they are now, how do we get them to us? Incentives. Put offers down that seem endlessly easy for them to produce referrals and the largest profits and then we let the features and the sites development as a whole keep them there trading. You don't hit up all the forums, great place to start and had I been part of the team from the beginning, it wouldn't of went this way, it's down to that stupid logo that's up now. If they hadn't put that up, they wouldn't have fucked everyones trust day one. I can guarantee that. I know 20k isn't a lot of money. That's why I invested it, because there is a 50/50 chance that it's genuine and if it is then that 20k is pennies to what it can produce. If it's a failure, 20k was worth the risk for me. I'll try get the money back, we know who the owner is, his address is online. It's not particularly difficult to find someone who isn't trying to hide. Like I have said a million times, we will know on Wednesday. If I don't get what I asked for us all i.e team member identification, a working demo and the money so I can start getting the offers out to people to join and win the incentives. If you are a trader with a 500 people following everyday, and you see an offer for 5 BTC for the most referrals and each trader you introduce must trade 0.5btc within the time limit. You are going to pick a coin looking profitable, tell your following about it and tell them a 0.5 minimum, then when you say jump they'll say how high. Easy money. Now we could have 10 big traders doing that easily daily for 2 weeks, now all these people use our bots and enjoy the site. Free upgrades in memberships for those deposited and traded certain amounts. Or who win mini competitions. That's now a bunch of customers for good. Newbies, well I don't need to explain that. Courses and walkthroughs. Make them money and they will stay. Down and out news sites? No thanks. You hit up the big ones, you hit them with things they can't say no too. I already have 3 lined up which will probably get us about 5000 sign ups by day 3, from that an easy 1000 will stick around with a good 300 pumping decent volumes in day in and out. Total cost is 12BTC + I have to do some free marketing for them. Flogged marketing advice? Yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. I am a dick, I maybe should be more professional but why? I'm human, I'm a marketer. I'm here to put an idea on the table for you that dont want to say no to and I'm good at it. Thats why you probably deal with people who only answer 'yes, sir' - 'no, sir' who the fuck wants that?  I want to speak to a real person who isn't worried about what you have to say about THEM because I am not a exchange. I'm here to get you on it and using it. Say what you want, but it's pure speculation until April 18th. Before that actually. I will know early hours of Thursday morning. If they don't provide, I'll ask for my money back. If I don't get it, I will tell you all. I am here to make money and raise crypto awareness, not scam anyone. The potential in this is way more than any scam can make. Even if it was a scam and they/he ran with our cash - he'd be an idiot. He's put the idea out their and I'd probably go ahead and pay to have a site developed myself. Obviously not under the same name, Coinpal was stupid to use from the start. There used to be that paypal to btc site under the .com version. However, the ideas out and if he threw that idea away for a little change then at least I can say the 20k I paid was for the idea, as I have seen enough to know exactly how this works as a whole. If FinCen grant the right for us to trade $, which they may as the meeting went well, then the profits that the scam would have made could be weekly profits easily for us. If/When I get replies, I will get you updates. I will let you know everything I know as soon as I know. First of all, youre a "partner" and your bashing the name of the exchange which is in very poor taste. However it does coincide with your all around demeanor. So I would expect nothing less. Secondly, even if this was legit, no one in their right mind would put their name on it now after the damage you have caused to their reputations. Thirdly, you obviously have no idea what FINCEN is, or you would know you would never be able to exchange $ without millions of dollars and six months- a year of prepping with a team of lawyers. The US jacked 5 million from MT Gox for trying that, and cryptsy has been trying to get their shit together for the past 6 months to avoid future problems. Fourthly, you pretty much killed this Coinpal thread with your naivety, the inability to control your emotions, and acting like a child. Coinpals biggest mistake so far is letting you get a glimpse of their inner workings. I am a investor/shareholder and you are FUCKING damaging my potential returns with your bullshit. Why dont you just shut the fuck up from now on. I think we would all be in a better position when that happens. I am a dick, I maybe should be more professional but why? I'm human, I'm a marketer. Because you said youre a fucking partner in this exchange, thats why assclown!! I PM'ED you. Do not discuss openly or to anyone what I said, when you read it you'll know why. There are other investors in this project than those in the I.P.O, I have never seen there money but I have no reason to believe it's a lie. Do you really think they'd be launching an exchange like this without more private backing and a lot of it, this is pretty advanced for a exchange start up and money was invested before the I.P.O first round opened. Fincen requires no such amount, there is no set limit they look at it case by case. I didn't say they were going to let us from day 1, they said an answer would be given in May. I am possibly no longer a partner. I am going to work for free to prove a point if Ryan emails me back sharpish. Then from whatever I am reimbursed from what I spend + whatever profits I generate after a month after the launch we then decide my % of the partnership. If that's the case I'm sure the other Ryan will take control of my shares to remain a certain sized owner of the company. So, I will be working for nothing literally. To prove a point here. If Ryan agrees which he probably will, he can't really lose here as long as he provides what's being promised by him in the I.P.O pitch which needs to be re-written oh so badly! |
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