I saw right away that all of you fudders have sought to distract from the conversation, that is why I created a factual and comprehensive thread containing data only and locked it to stop your silly shit. I will post a precise summary of results backed up by reputable 3rd party sources at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=742456.20Thank You. Would you provide me with the link where you claimed there was a new Australian law. You had posted unfactual information which you deleted on your so called factual thread. So GES AU and GES HK are involved with Uro and you're going to claim that his personal bankruptcy does not affect GES's capacity to meet its commitments of $25 million??? |
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Although the report is very limited. There are no disclosures, no public actions, no financial actions by creditors.
It would appear there is some delay in filing the necessary documents which has caused these records to appear in asic.
The company is held jointly by Nilesh and his wife.
No indication of financial malfeasance.
It's clean.
I'll post the report on my thread soon.
This is why we need to fund an in depth report by an industry leader that will give a complete picture.
There may be very little information available, but in this case no news is good news.
The credit file may or may not provide any information.
If everything is privately held and financed through the old boy network, then there will not be much information available publicly.
So we can assume that GES can meet their obligations.
At this point, I think we need to set up an account to fund a D&B report.
and to address the issue of personal bankruptcy once again:
I work for one of the largest entities in the world.
If I declare bankruptcy, does that mean my 65 billion dollar per year organization is broke?
Why are you supposedly investigating GES AU when it had been repeatedly claimed that GES AU has nothing to do with the Uro. It has been repeatedly claimed that GES HK is involved with the Uro! Nilesh Nair is the sole director of GES HK. It must be a lie that GES AU has nothing to do with Uro for you to be investigating it! So GES AU and GES HK are involved in this Uro, thanks for confirming this. "If I declare bankruptcy, does that mean my 65 billion dollar per year organization is broke?" That's silly as the money from your organization is your income! So if you are personally bankrupt then what does that say about the companies earnings?? |
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You also neglected to mention certain recent changes in the Australian laws relating to piercing the corporate veil, which could make someone's personal income and holdings vulnerable for corporate debt. For a company that deals heavily in financed deals, this could pose an unacceptable level of risk, and bankruptcy is one of the tools used to prevent creditors from taking advantage of the new law to create a predatory environment.
It provides personal protection while restructuring.
As this bankruptcy has not been discharged, I cannot accept that this has any bearing upon the ability of GES to provide the urea to back this coin.
If the asset is there and the contracts are honored, it has value.
That is a whole lot of waffle. Another point to add is why are you supposedly investigating GES AU when it had been repeatedly claimed that GES AU has nothing to do with the Uro. It has been repeatedly claimed that GES HK is involved with the Uro! "It provides protection while restructuring"- this does not make sense. A personal bankruptcy has nothing to do with the company as stated, yet if he's bankrupt how does he have $25 million?? Would you give me a link to this so called new Australian Law! Are you saying that you admit Nilesh Nair is personally bankrupt, yet it was claimed by members on this forum it was false. |
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If you know that Bohan is "out sick" and will be working on the coin over the weekend. Why don't you pose these questions to them since you seem to have direct contact with them. I know they've read the questions before and didn't answer. I think that's strange for a company/ coin that is claiming to be transparent.
There are questions that you have never answered either. Do you know Nilesh personally to know so much about him? What did he do to hurt you so much that you're still on this thread despite the fact the coin appears to be dying? Are you Nilesh? Are you Bohan? Answer all questions NOW or GTFO! I don't like scams pure and simple as that! |
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See my thread for current results.
I've ordered a paid search of ASIC records myself, I'm tired of seeing this undischarged bankruptcy claim with no supporting documents and no disposition.
We'll soon find out if Truthful really is.
The thread will remain locked to prevent interference until I've completed the results.
You have misinterpreted the bankruptcy that I'm talking about. I'm talking about this http://www.docdroid.net/f94l/bankruptcy-search-1.pdf.htmlYou won't get the personal bankruptcy from ASIC. ASIC deals with companies. ASIC began the process of deregistering GES when it hadn't paid its fees in October 2013. The company was put back in registered mode in December 2013 when the company paid its fees. You'll get the personal bankruptcy from here. https://www.afsa.gov.au/resources/npii/npii-national-personal-insolvency-index Are you aware you just admitted to lying by omission? What lie? I've never been talking about the company. I've been talking about Nilesh Nair's personal bankruptcy. You said in your https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=742456.0 which you have now edited in relation to Nilesh Nair's personal bankruptcy, "that you could neither prove or disprove it" Nilesh Nair's bankruptcy is separate from the company, which is why it is odd that a company that claims to be multi-international with $25 million, when the director himself is personally bankrupt. Companies don't go into bankruptcy. It's called liquidation. You aren't even certain of the correct terminology nor have you researched very well when I've just had to tell you the correct information!! You even had the incorrect link for the company. You had this link https://creditorwatch.com.au/express/asic/organisation/147326252/GREEN-EARTH-HOLDINGS-PTY-LTD in your post which you edited. Another point to add is why are you supposedly investigating GES AU when it had been repeatedly claimed that GES AU has nothing to do with the Uro. It has been repeatedly claimed that GES HK is involved with the Uro! |
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See my thread for current results.
I've ordered a paid search of ASIC records myself, I'm tired of seeing this undischarged bankruptcy claim with no supporting documents and no disposition.
We'll soon find out if Truthful really is.
The thread will remain locked to prevent interference until I've completed the results.
You have misinterpreted the bankruptcy that I'm talking about. I'm talking about this http://www.docdroid.net/f94l/bankruptcy-search-1.pdf.htmlYou won't get the personal bankruptcy from ASIC. ASIC deals with companies. ASIC began the process of deregistering GES when it hadn't paid its fees in October 2013. The company was put back in registered mode in December 2013 when the company paid its fees. You'll get the personal bankruptcy from here. https://www.afsa.gov.au/resources/npii/npii-national-personal-insolvency-index |
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hobopete Member Re: UroCoin community research thread Today at 12:27:36 AM #21 This is why I say bankruptcy has not been proven or disproven until a judgment number is issued that can be verified through the court system. I have not found any judgment. ASIC-initiated deregistration of a company ASIC has the ability to deregister a company. Once a company is deregistered it ceases to exist as a legal entity and can no longer do anything in its own right. Any assets or property that the company has is held on trust by ASIC. Generally, ASIC can deregister a company when it has not: paid its annual review fee for at least 12 months after the due date responded to a company compliance notice at least six months after the response was required lodged documents for at least 18 months and there is no reason to believe the company is operating a business. We can also deregister a company after it has been wound up. Before ASIC deregisters a company, we will send a letter (to the registered office) advising the company, its directors, and where applicable, the liquidators, of our intention to deregister the company and the reasons why. We will also make a note on the company register that the company is in ‘SOFF’ (strike-off status) and publish a notice on the insolvency notices website. Companies are deregistered two months after a notice is published on the insolvency notices website. Once deregistered, ASIC will send a final letter to the directors or liquidators advising that the company has been deregistered. A director can stop a company from being deregistered if it complies with steps to stop deregistration that are contained in the initial letter to the company, directors or, where applicable, liquidator. A third party can ask to deter a company from being deregistered if: legal proceedings are underway against the company, or there is an intention to issue legal proceedings against the company. Truthful's reply that was deleted to the above postYou can get all the information you copied and pasted here Hobopete http://www.asic.gov.au/asic-initiated-deregistrationThe bankruptcy of Nilesh Nair is what you stated you couldn't prove or disprove. Are you going to prove or disprove this? http://www.docdroid.net/f94l/bankruptcy-search-1.pdf.htmlWhy is GES claiming to be a company that has $25 million, yet the Director is bankrupt? |
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Explain how a so called multi-international company (GES) has about $25million, yet the director Nilesh Nair of GES is bankrupt?? http://www.docdroid.net/f94l/bankruptcy-search-1.pdf.html Explain how the other so-called NIER's are never mentioned. Explain how the community was told that GES has an office at Australia Square when it doesn't. Explain how the community was told there is an office in HK when it doesn't have one. Explain how the website of GES suddenly changed from being an all Australian company to a so-called HK company within the space of about 3 months?? No answers to these?? Why is that??The people here do not have these answers, please stop spamming us. Please find answers and enlighten us or let us and the failing price and low volume be. When there is new information or these are answered you can re-open your investigation. If you know that Bohan is "out sick" and will be working on the coin over the weekend. Why don't you pose these questions to them since you seem to have direct contact with them. I know they've read the questions before and didn't answer. I think that's strange for a company/ coin that is claiming to be transparent. |
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Explain how a so called multi-international company (GES) has about $25million, yet the director Nilesh Nair of GES is bankrupt?? http://www.docdroid.net/f94l/bankruptcy-search-1.pdf.html Explain how the other so-called NIER's are never mentioned. Explain how the community was told that GES has an office at Australia Square when it doesn't. Explain how the community was told there is an office in HK when it doesn't have one. Explain how the website of GES suddenly changed from being an all Australian company to a so-called HK company within the space of about 3 months?? After the 50th time, this is psychotic behavior. I do hope you find help. lol, lol you keeping count! Thought you were counting your uro's. Do you have many to count?? You don't need to keep proving to everyone that you are a bully, by keeping up with the attempts to make the other person seem like they're the one with the problem! For some reason Corather went offline when this was posted!! |
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Explain how a so called multi-international company (GES) has about $25million, yet the director Nilesh Nair of GES is bankrupt?? http://www.docdroid.net/f94l/bankruptcy-search-1.pdf.html Explain how the other so-called NIER's are never mentioned. Explain how the community was told that GES has an office at Australia Square when it doesn't. Explain how the community was told there is an office in HK when it doesn't have one. Explain how the website of GES suddenly changed from being an all Australian company to a so-called HK company within the space of about 3 months?? No answers to these?? Why is that?? |
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This is a case of the blind leading the blind.
Psychosis. Bullies suffer from psychosis. Clear signs. You should find medical help. I'm starting to become concerned for your well being. Hahaha you think you are funny and clever! Hmmm let me think a bully is an insecure person. You definitely show that you can't be funny or clever, so you compensate by being a bully. You're on a vicious circle like watching a shipwreck!  |
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Explain how a so called multi-international company (GES) has about $25million, yet the director Nilesh Nair of GES is bankrupt?? http://www.docdroid.net/f94l/bankruptcy-search-1.pdf.html Explain how the other so-called NIER's are never mentioned. Explain how the community was told that GES has an office at Australia Square when it doesn't. Explain how the community was told there is an office in HK when it doesn't have one. Explain how the website of GES suddenly changed from being an all Australian company to a so-called HK company within the space of about 3 months?? After the 50th time, this is psychotic behavior. I do hope you find help. lol, lol you keeping count! Thought you were counting your uro's. Do you have many to count?? You don't need to keep proving to everyone that you are a bully, by keeping up with the attempts to make the other person seem like they're the one with the problem! |
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Explain how a so called multi-international company (GES) has about $25million, yet the director Nilesh Nair of GES is bankrupt?? http://www.docdroid.net/f94l/bankruptcy-search-1.pdf.html Explain how the other so-called NIER's are never mentioned. Explain how the community was told that GES has an office at Australia Square when it doesn't. Explain how the community was told there is an office in HK when it doesn't have one. Explain how the website of GES suddenly changed from being an all Australian company to a so-called HK company within the space of about 3 months?? |
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After many days, uro goes under 100k.
I'm starting to think that it's over.
It was over before it started. How would you be able to prove that a shipment of Urea had anything to do with GES? Why don't you just ask your guru or Bohan?? If there's transparency as they claim there is, why don't they tell the community if the supposed shipment for Urea has anything to do with GES? 3) MV MEGA STAR INTEROCEAN UREA nil 71,148 nil 29/12 From Reuters: a little out of date, but it confirms that mega star is an Interocean Group Ship, used by IPL for UREA. Link here http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/12/27/port-mundra-idINL4N0A12G220121227The fact that GES was able to release the port of origin before this information was available publicly indicates they were indeed involved in this transaction. ship data here: Port Arrival (LT) Departure (LT) In Transit IN MUNDRA (UTC+5.5) 2014-08-14 07:39:00 2014-08-18 16:39:00 IN PIPAVAV (UTC+5.5) 2014-08-09 16:01:00 IN PIPAVAV (UTC+5.5) 2014-08-04 10:31:00 IR ASALUYEH (UTC+4.5) 2014-07-29 17:37:00 IR ASALUYEH (UTC+4.5) 2014-07-19 14:25:00 QA MESAIEED (UTC+3) 2014-07-09 12:07:00 Link: http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/9512202/vessel:MEGA_STARGood work.. I would like to give an update on which Management the Vessel is now under: Stellar Ocean transport LLC  So what?? Still no proof of any connection with GES. |
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Explain how a so called multi-international company (GES) has about $25million, yet the director Nilesh Nair of GES is bankrupt?? http://www.docdroid.net/f94l/bankruptcy-search-1.pdf.html Explain how the other so-called NIER's are never mentioned. Explain how the community was told that GES has an office at Australia Square when it doesn't. Explain how the community was told there is an office in HK when it doesn't have one. Explain how the website of GES suddenly changed from being an all Australian company to a so-called HK company within the space of about 3 months?? |
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ol, lol such a weak reply. Can't you do better than that?? The reality is that you are a bully. You swear at people, throw tantrums, abuse people who may have a different opinion. What else would you call that poor behavior??
Hey man, I'm concerned about your well being. Spit in my face if you will but that will not help you. lol, lol you try so hard don't you with trying to be concerned about others. I wouldn't spit on another human being! Is that something you would do?? You already have, but you're psychotic and unaware of your own actions. lol, lol see how you make statements which are false! Prove that I have ever spat on anybody. Then like a bully you try to turn everything on to the other person to make it seem like they're the one with a problem!! |
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ol, lol such a weak reply. Can't you do better than that?? The reality is that you are a bully. You swear at people, throw tantrums, abuse people who may have a different opinion. What else would you call that poor behavior??
Hey man, I'm concerned about your well being. Spit in my face if you will but that will not help you. lol, lol you try so hard don't you with trying to be concerned about others. I wouldn't spit on another human being! Is that something you would do?? |
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This is a case of the blind leading the blind.
Psychosis. Bullies suffer from psychosis. Clear signs. You should find medical help. I'm starting to become concerned for your well being. Hahaha you think you are funny and clever! Hmmm let me think a bully is an insecure person. You definitely show that you can't be funny or clever, so you compensate by being a bully. You're on a vicious circle like watching a shipwreck! This is the problem with psychosis. The psychotic mind fabricates a reality which it fails to come to terms with. This is why you need help. Calling me a bully only goes to evidence you are indeed psychotic. ol, lol such a weak reply. Can't you do better than that?? The reality is that you are a bully. You swear at people, throw tantrums, abuse people who may have a different opinion. What else would you call that poor behavior?? |
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After many days, uro goes under 100k.
I'm starting to think that it's over.
It was over before it started. How would you be able to prove that a shipment of Urea had anything to do with GES? Why don't you just ask your guru or Bohan?? If there's transparency as they claim there is, why don't they tell the community if the supposed shipment for Urea has anything to do with GES? 3) MV MEGA STAR INTEROCEAN UREA nil 71,148 nil 29/12 From Reuters: a little out of date, but it confirms that mega star is an Interocean Group Ship, used by IPL for UREA. Link here http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/12/27/port-mundra-idINL4N0A12G220121227The fact that GES was able to release the port of origin before this information was available publicly indicates they were indeed involved in this transaction. ship data here: Port Arrival (LT) Departure (LT) In Transit IN MUNDRA (UTC+5.5) 2014-08-14 07:39:00 2014-08-18 16:39:00 IN PIPAVAV (UTC+5.5) 2014-08-09 16:01:00 IN PIPAVAV (UTC+5.5) 2014-08-04 10:31:00 IR ASALUYEH (UTC+4.5) 2014-07-29 17:37:00 IR ASALUYEH (UTC+4.5) 2014-07-19 14:25:00 QA MESAIEED (UTC+3) 2014-07-09 12:07:00 Link: http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/9512202/vessel:MEGA_STARExcellent. [/quote] Blind leading the blind. |
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This is a case of the blind leading the blind.
Psychosis. Bullies suffer from psychosis. Clear signs. You should find medical help. I'm starting to become concerned for your well being. Hahaha you think you are funny and clever! Hmmm let me think a bully is an insecure person. You definitely show that you can't be funny or clever, so you compensate by being a bully. You're on a vicious circle like watching a shipwreck! |
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