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221  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: January 12, 2022, 04:16:40 PM
I didn't like Atletico Madrid in their Villarreal game. They barely secured a 2-2 draw and it wouldn't be surprising if Villarreal won this game. Because I believe that they deserved it too. Atletico Madrid were terrible in the first half. They didn't find proper goal chances. They tried to be better in the second half but their performance was still at an inadequate level. If Atletico Madrid want to climb the places in the standings and be in top 4 at the end, they need to do much better than this.
Atletico madrid this season have really gone out of the way of the championship competition, the negative results they continue to get this season make a pretty big points gap from real madrid, I think now Simoene have a tough job to restore atletico madrid form, the draw against villareal is correct It's true that it looks like Atletico Madrid has lost their winning mentality right now, I don't know why until now it looks like Atletico have not been active in the transfer market and I don't think the fans will be happy with their current form.


Even though they are far behind, they are still worth betting on.  The previous draw against Villarreal showed little change from their losing streak.  At least for the next match they will be able to draw or win narrowly.  Moreover, the team against which was not that strong. Real Madrid has played well this season, but the match that is quite awaited during the Spanish Super Cup is Madrid's meeting against Barcelona.
222  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Perkembangan NFT di Indonesia on: January 12, 2022, 03:25:10 PM
Setelah Raffi Ahmad, Luna Maya dan Syahrini satu artis lagi meluncurkan NFT. Anang hermansyah dan Ashanty akan meluncurkan token NFT yang diberi nama ASIX. Kabarnya mereka akan melakukan Lounchpad di IDM. Token ASIX ini menjadi utilitas bagi game P2E atau Play-to-earn.

Namanya artis, apapun trend nya mereka pasti segera turun untuk mengambil peluang dan keuntungan. Wajar memang, apalagi mereka memang bekerja di bidang art dan entertain sehingga bukan hal yang begitu baru namun perubahan metode saja untuk menghasilkan uang lebih. Memperkaya pundi pundinya. Kita sebenarnya memiliki peluang yang sama seperti yang baru baru ini rame terkait NFT selfie a.n. Ghazali yang laku senilai 7 ETH. Bukankah nilai yang sangat fantastis?
223  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: January 11, 2022, 05:18:01 PM
yang sangat krusial untuk melihat apakah BTC akan jauh lebih dip atau tidak dalam satu tahun ini.

Jika hal buruk terjadi di pasar dan menyentuh titik support terendah seperti yang agan katakan, apa yang paling direkomendasikan untuk dilakukan bagi para holder jangka panjang? Dengan harga seperti itu, bagi para bandar adalah harga terbaik untuk dibeli sedangkan bagi pemula seperti saya adalah titik paling dilema untuk dibeli atau dijual.

Ketika bandar turun, maka harga pasti akan membaik segera. Cuma belum ada saja berita pump dalam waktu dekat ini.
224  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Perkembangan NFT di Indonesia on: January 11, 2022, 04:40:15 PM
Memang agak relatif atau sesuai pandangan per-orang kalau kita berbicara soal seni. Ane bandingkan lukisan abstrak cuma corat-coret warna di canvas tanpa terlihat bentuk gambar apa pun bisa laku milyaran rupiah, dibanding lukisan pensil di jalanan kota yang berisi lukisan orang sesuai dengan aslinya malah cuma laku ratusan ribu doang. Mungkin memang perlu sentuhan digital juga untuk itu, apa lagi jika pelukis jalanan bisa dan mampu menerapkan lukisan pensilnya ke NFT, kedepannya karya tersebut bisa Go Public Internasional.

Bener Om, menilai karya seni memang tidak ada patokan khususnya karena hanya berdasarkan sudut pandang masing-masing dalam menerjemahkan apa yang dia lihat. Mungkin bagi orang lain biasa, tapi buat orang yang memang terpikat dengan sebuah karya (merasa jika karya tersebut mewakili perasaannya) maka bisa saja orang tersebut akan mengeluarkan banyak duit hanya untuk mendapatkan karya seni tersebut. Semakin banyak orang yang tertarik pada sebuah karya seni, maka harga karya seni tersebut akan semakin tinggi.

NFT mendorong sebuah karya menjadi lebih berharga dan lebih terjaga orisinalitasnya. Jika NFT berkembang dengan dasar seni maka hal ini akan terus berkembang dan tidak lekang oleh jaman. Seperti halnya lukisan monalisa yang terus menjadi bahan berbincangan bahkan jika dilelang hingga saat ini akan sangat mahal harga nya. Begitu juga seni yang dijadikan dalam bentuk NFT.

Jika sebagai investasi maka lebih dilihat dan diperhitungkan tidak hanya dari keunikannya tetapi juga pasar yang akan menikmati seni itu juga sehingga nilai nya di masa depan dapat diprediksi positif.
225  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: January 11, 2022, 03:56:53 PM

Right now the main problem of barcelona is bad finances, because if barcelona this season can again improve and balance their finances, I think next season we will see the greatness of the old barcelona will come back again and their will become a team that is feared in europe again, but if the financial condition of barcelona it's still getting worse and even worse in the future, of course it looks like we will see Barcelona change to become like the Levante team and also Espanyol which has been a non-seeded team so far.


If they discuss their internal financial problems, there will be no end.  The condition is already very bad and even deserves to be disbanded since 2021 yesterday.  How can such a big club lose out on its journey so far.  The pandemic is only 2 years old and cannot be used as a fundamental reason for their club.  The best way is that they have to get a large injection of funds to pay off debts due to poor financial management.  Selling the club to investors who are ready to take on the debt.
226  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: January 11, 2022, 03:15:06 PM
There is only one game today which is going to be between Southampton and Brentford in St. Mary's. I'm aware of the fact that these two teams both are not at very ideal positions but I'm still expecting it to be a competitive game. And I'm favouring Southampton here. Southampton lost only once in their home games so far in this season. I think that we will see at least three goals in this game and Southampton could win by 2-1.

Southamphton matches so far, although quite good when played at home, this cannot be effective in predicting the final result of the next match.  Their current opponent is equally strong, I'm even more sure they will end up in a draw.  If you say Southampton will score 2 goals, this is too optimistic for a team that lost when they met in the previous season.  They just got beaten by a score of 2 - 0 earlier.  I prefer to bet on a tie rather than choosing one of them.
227  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: January 10, 2022, 04:18:09 PM
I really don't want Manchester City to go through this season alone without another competitor. Chelsea, Liverpool must be able to compete with them for the title at the end of the season. I don't think Liverpool should give up now to win the title and leave Manchester City undisturbed in the table. I know City have quality players, but they are still possible to beat.

Take it easy, Liverpool will catch up with City soon.  However they have done well to be in the top 3 position.  The difference in points with City is also still possible to beat.  Although it won't be easy either.  This pause gives time to change the direction of the game's strategy in order to become a winner.
228  Economy / Economics / Re: Is PayPal plannning to Launch of Own Stablecoin? on: January 10, 2022, 03:15:18 PM
The disadvantage in this, I see, is that the new PayPal Coin will be centralized and, of course, the problem of mandatory verification. And of course, PayPal Coin will be very far from the ideology of Bitcoin.

When Paypal creates its own coin it is commonplace in business but if it is forced to be centralized then the demand is also limited to those who are fiat lovers.  The CEO of Binance said that it would be very appreciated if the CBDC came along with crypto but it would be a shame if it was created to limit the space for crypto in the market.  Paypal, however, is a staunch supporter of Fiat, so it's hard to trust a company with a different orientation.
229  Economy / Economics / Re: BTC: is it really bearish? on: January 10, 2022, 02:09:15 PM
Sometimes being a successful investor does need to suffer losses first, so for newbies, please don't give up when they experience losses. The most important thing is that we can learn from the mistakes we have made, so we don't have to make the same mistakes next time. Hopefully my fear that Bitcoin will drop below $40k doesn't come to pass, that's why I always recommend to everyone to buy Bitcoin at the current price. Because if more people buy Bitcoin the price will help to go up.But it would be even better if in the near future some good news emerged regarding Bitcoin, so it will make more and more people invest in Bitcoin.
As a person who has seen the price drop so many times in the past 10 years, I have to say newbies have always been like this and it looks like the "crash" we are having keeps becoming smaller and smaller. I mean remember the 2014 crash, it was horrible and took years to recover, then the 2018 crash and it took lesser years, and then in 2020 we literally had a crash and then a new ATH after that, which shows that there are less and less people who believe that bitcoin will crash and hence they end up not selling too much and the price drops a lot less than usual.

I hopefully can see that this crash will recover quicker than the previous ones as well, 2022 will have a big skyrocketing price for sure, I do not know when that will happen but I am sure that it will happen. Hopefully it will not take too much of time so that we could make some profit.
It's true what you said, the process that goes through in the movement of BTC prices is very dynamic, but holistically we can conclude that investing here is still very profitable.  it does take time and patience to get great results.  The only losers are those who are very impatient.
As low as the price is when bearish, it's still profitable if you wait for the market to stabilize.
230  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Perkembangan NFT di Indonesia on: January 09, 2022, 04:55:37 PM
Beberapa hari yang lalu, saya melihat berita bahwa Syahrini meluncurkan NFT perdananya dan habis terjual dalam waktu singkat.
Menurut ane kalau yang ini bukan NFT-nya deh tapi nama Syahrini-nya yang ngejual, beda kalau kita yang jual pasti tdk laku,


Kita memang ga bisa memastikan alasan mereka membeli NFT, apakah hanya karena seni, yang mempublishnya atau sebagai investasi. Di fyp tiktok saya juga sering muncul tentang NFT yang terlihat seperti bentuk bintang laut namun bagi pandangan mata saya, artnya sangat biasa namun terjual dengan nilai yang fantastis, 1 ETH.
231  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: January 09, 2022, 04:11:08 PM
It was quite interesting when 10 players had to defend, but until the last minute, Real Betis were able to show that their defense is not easy to break down just because of a shortage of 1 player. The barrage of attacks did not create the slightest gap to score another goal. I quite applaud them for surviving until the last minute and choosing to stay with a draw.

However, if there is no violation until the red card they should defeat Rayo. In the 70th minute, their defense was caused by a goal from Balliu. With a complete team, they can actually win. If it's too praised, worrying about the mistake for those who bet for them. This draw is indeed not so bad with the condition of the team that is only 10 players.
232  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: January 09, 2022, 03:23:18 PM

Arsenal has amazing season so far and I am very surprised to see how far Arsenal and Arteta can go like this. They began this season with unknown future because there is no signal that they can have a good season. Out of all expectation, they are participating in top 4 competition and even have higher rank than Manchester United or Tottenham.


Arsenal have played very well this season, very much different from the previous season.  I am very surprised to see his progress.  The impact of this progress can be seen with their current achievements, if they can maintain it it is possible for them to be in the top 5 until the final.  Tottenham are indeed quite a formidable opponent, but Arsenal will also be able to overcome it well.  The worst result I predict will end in a draw.
233  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Historical Bitcoin Prices😊 on: January 08, 2022, 06:50:11 PM

People get too frustrated when Bitcoin loses value, sometimes it might upset me too, but I'm trying not to worry too much. It has lost quite a lot in value in the past week, however, as someone who is aiming at long-term holding, I believe that Bitcoin will recover as soon as things get better with Omicron and the condition in Kazakhstan.
The condition of BTC with a significant decline in its price is enough to make a loss for many investors, but if you reverse this again, the problem is that the electricity demand is very large, causing many regions to prohibit mining.  Isn't this issue overstated?  Basically, electricity demand on earth is still dependent on cheap coal but it is not very environmentally friendly, regarding electricity that has not met the world's needs, you should not blame BTC and cause a bear market.  There are many things that should be supported, such as the news of Whatsapp accepting the presence of BTC by testing it in the USA.  So the market is also going up.
234  Economy / Economics / Re: BTC: is it really bearish? on: January 08, 2022, 04:57:32 PM
If we'll look at the previous prices of Bitcoin, we'll realize that the current price isn't something to be bothered about because corrections like this would be normal. We shouldn't fear the current value because that's part of the cycle but we can't conclude that it's already bearish. To be honest, the graph could analyze yet it couldn't predict Bitcoin's future price accurately so we shouldn't think that the price will continuously drop.

However, if you look at the previous correction, there is a fundamental issue behind the correction, so it is natural for the price to fall below 40k. Currently the conditions are quite different, the price continues to be bearish without any significant fundamental issues. So that the condition of falling prices, it can be predicted that it will touch the price of 35K.
235  Economy / Economics / Re: Digital asset is for holding on: January 08, 2022, 03:44:00 PM

Real estate's location may become bad - how will you sell it for profit then? Bitcoin will not have this problem, but rather it's own problems of non-regulation, risks of being outlawed etc.

Actually the most troublesome business is physical business such as building a business rather than investing in stocks, BTC, and others. Because it will be faced with risks such as human resources, and other operations. So, it is simpler to study non-physical investments, we only need to strengthen our analytical skills to maintain our portfolio. Managing a portfolio only requires the ability to project more strategically than managing a business, you have to think technically and strategically.
236  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: January 07, 2022, 03:30:23 PM

Either way, Man United are just 4 points behind Arsenal. But in the Premier League this difference in points is very little. That's why I think the fight for 4th place will be very close until the end, because it gives direct access to the Champions League.
Their problem isn't in the coach but in the spirit of the team itself.  Such as chemistry between players that do not complement each other and patterns of play that are not enthusiastic about winning.  Their current position must be improved immediately to be able to enter the champions league.  The impact of the game is quite bad this season, it could be burdensome for them to advance to a bigger league
237  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Michael Saylor and bitcoin on: January 07, 2022, 02:28:18 PM
If you just search "bitcoin" on YT, everything that pops up is made by people trying to sell you on get-rich-quick schemes.

I really support your words, youtube is filled with content creators who don't educate well but only promise practical benefits and it turns out to be just a scam.  To study BTC requires research that is quite complicated, not just listening to the words of person A or person B because we will never know they are only part of market manipulation or purely educational.  Saylor was by far a Whales, so after all her actions were only to secure her investment conditions.  Don't let his actions push the red market and threaten the value of his investment.  It's only natural that he continues to say positive because of the proportion of his BTC holdings.
238  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will owning 0.01 BTC really make you rich? on: January 06, 2022, 04:16:10 PM
This question may also have been asked by those who owned BTC from the start, but at that time many denied the future of BTC and said BTC was just a scam.  But look at those who in the beginning had only 10 BTC with a value of 10$ at that time, now have 10 BTC worth 420K USD.  Who would have thought it all?  BTC is a currency that has a role as a store of value, so there is nothing wrong with whether you can become a billionaire by owning BTC, because it has already been answered.  We just have to agree in the current bubble, don't be influenced by issues and hold your assets.  in the next 20 years no one can guess at what price BTC will be.
239  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: January 06, 2022, 03:40:21 PM
I think Chelsea are gonna do well even without Havertz and Azpilicueta. Yeah they both are crucial members of the squad but there are lot of players so that will certainly be covered by them. They have quite some quick fixtures so Tuchel might want to manage his squad properly and will hope not to add more to the injury list.
Chelsea have multiple good choices for their squad so one or two missing players won't bring too much troubles. However in general Chelsea don't have too good form recent weeks which results in big point difference against Manchester City.

I also think so, the chances of them ending in a draw are much greater than Chelsea beating City.  They are a stable team in their game, Chelsea will not easily beat him.  City have a greater chance of winning than Chelsea by looking at the previous matches.  Against Liverpool, they r draw. how can you end up winning? But, If really wanna bet for Chelsea, we should put another bet for covering the possibility of bad result.
240  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: January 05, 2022, 04:51:03 PM

If you think mbappe is a player who is crazy about money, I dare say if your assumption is wrong ..! mbappe has a fairly large salary at PSG, and even PSG have offered a contract extension and a salary increase to keep Mbappe, but it is precisely Mbappe until now that he has not yet determined his exact attitude to PSG, as you say, if Mbappe has not fully developed at PSG and that's why he really wants to leave PSG now, because if he continues to stay it will be very difficult for him to develop because right now he is under messi's shadow, so for the sake of his career maybe he will prefer Madrid to develop in totality rather than risking his future his career at PSG or go to newcastle.


However, if he chooses Newcastle, then his struggle to grow bigger still requires an extra struggle because the condition of his team is so weak that it is in a very low standings, but if he moves to Real Madrid his branding at least has a level that can be recognized by many people.  Newcastle will be very happy in his presence for being able to bring in the youngest striker of his age.
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