Giusto, è per chiunque voglia entrare immediatamente nel Lightning, con Bitcoin Lightning Wallet (BLW) solo, per ora. Anche il canale Thor Turbo è dotato di capacità in entrata. In questo modo è possibile PAGARE senza attendere conferme e RICEVERE senza dover prima effettuare molti pagamenti. Quindi è indirizzato agli utenti comuni che abbiano il wallet per android di tipo lightning?
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Komisyon değeri biraz fazla mı bana mı öyle geldi. 20 lira 22 liradan satılıyor. Bu da %10 değerinde bir fee demek ki. Burdan alacağıma gider borsada toplu para bozdururum. Ama adamlar sistemi güzel düşünmüşler tebrik ettim gerçekten.
Merhaba, daha fazla tedarikçi edinmek ve fiyatımızı mümkün olduğunca azaltmak için elimizden gelenin en iyisini yapıyoruz. Bazı popüler ürünlerde ortalama BTC fiyatı ile aynıdır, diğerlerinde% 10'a kadar olabilir. Yüksek bir fiyat varsa gözden geçirmemizi istersiniz, lütfen bize bildirin --- Hello, we do our best to get more suppliers and reduce our price as much as possible. With some popular products it is the same price as the average BTC price, with others might be up to 10%. If there is a high price you would want us to review, please let us know
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vorrei comprare un po di buoni amazon. Sono fermo a qualche annetto fa Vorrei solo metodi sicuri, che non ci sia il rischio di carte di credito clonate in mezzo vedo che giftoff.com continua a non tenere i buono amazon egiftcards24.com/ non capisco se funziona ancora, solo per determinati mercati o meno, neppure come si calcola quanto mi viene a costare un valore di riferimento di 100 euro www.bitrefill.com questo sembra facile da usare e riesco capire quanto mi costano 100 euro, lavorando al cambio attuale il primo preso cercando su Internet dovrei dare circa 108 euro 0.01521600 Spettrocoin mi pare complicato, se leggono opinioni leggo pareri discordanti e ancora prima di registrarmi non capisco quanto mi costa un buono di 100 euro. Cosa consigliate? Ciao, è amazon.it di cosa hai bisogno? Cerchiamo costantemente di migliorare i prezzi e se paghi con un Lightning hai uno sconto del 2% (passiamo i nostri risparmi ai clienti)
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In realtà abbiamo lanciato Thor Turbo ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) , che è un saldo Lightning da spendere immediatamente, senza attendere conferme. Dettagli: https://www.bitrefill.com/thor-turbo-channels Si, Thor serve solo se devi ricevere pagamenti, non per farli.
Per quelli serve un wallet (Bluewallet, Wallet of Satoshi o Eclair sono i migliori per me) oppure un nodo vero e proprio (da farti da zero o comprando un nodo già preimpostato tipo Casa come ho fatto io)
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I looking to for Airbnb,hotels.com,delta,TJ MAXXX,sephora etc. <-- in BULK
Contact info: Skype live:kupanaklata Telegram BitkeyX
Hello, we have all those cards and many more at bitrefill.com You can create a Bitrefill Account and bulk buy from there.
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At bitrefill.com we have 1600 businesses where you can spend. Giftcards are a convenient way to shop, without giving your personal information. Accepting bitcoin directly is great, but we are far from that happening en masse. We are working hard so you can live on bitcoin today
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Nothing fractional, and nothing custodial about a Turbo channel.
fractional: "There is no concept of what LN "allows". Channel rules are established between the two parties that enter them, it is voluntary. That means you can agree to any rules you want." which is my point. 2 parties can agree to a LN balance even without proof of btc collateral custodial: "The risk is Bitrefill's because we are fronting the BTC in that channel " turbo: no confirm = no locked collateral when the channels is "fronted" yea you can try to explain how your non turbo fee's havnt changed, but thats just a meander off topic. thats not admitting the truth, thats explaining a left hand when everyone is interested in the right hand (totally irrelevant) the safe way a system like turbo works would be that turbo is factory based. where turbo just hands out HTLC's of balance in msats that CANNOT b broadcast to bitcoin. but instead the other party has to hand to the factory for the factory to settle Sorry, but it seems you are predetermined to paint LN, and Bitrefill's use of it, negatively and incorrectly. Calling any of what we do with Lightning fractional or custodial is literally false. The coins in the turbo channel are owned by the recipient the moment they are pushed, they have control and can close the channel to claim them or route a payment to spend them. No one can print new Bitcoin in LN, and no one can double-encumber any coins in LN.
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for what its worth you recently changed ur prices, but vn at your now higher prices its not like a person pays500ksat and get 500ksat channel, they get 1mill sat channel for what its worth, by opening a channel before even having a blockchain locked and confirmed tx peg is a risk for what its worth, for LN to even allow channels to open without a pegged tx is a risk (opening a msat balance but collateral being coinbase.com data) as this shows its possible in code/technically to open channels without needing a blockchain tether AKA fractional reserving 1. We actually lowered prices on the capacity-only Thor channels (non-Turbo), we never raised them afaik. I'm not sure what you mean. 2. You misunderstand how Turbo channels work. The risk is Bitrefill's because we are fronting the BTC in that channel 3. There is no concept of what LN "allows". Channel rules are established between the two parties that enter them, it is voluntary. That means you can agree to any rules you want. If you use rules that are different than other LN wallets or the rest of the network, you will be limited to a subnetwork of people using the same rules. Turbo channel opening requires a custom channel, but there is nothing fractional about it. It still requires unencumbered BTC to allocate the balance. It's just that Bitrefill choose to "give" our BTC instantly to you with Turbo because you have already made a separate payment to us of sufficient amount. This same concept can be used to create larger channels than the common protocol too. If we wanted, we could open a channel right now with 10BTC in it, it would just require updating the software we use to be compatible with each other. Don't confuse Lightning protocol with Bitcoin protocol, Lightning is real peer-to-peer interacting and channels can have any rules on top of BTC as an anchor. Nothing fractional, and nothing custodial about a Turbo channel.
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It wasn't about buying a product but mostly about loading times of the page where sometimes it's stuck. I didn't try the given suggestions before posting the thread (restarting the router, using VPN, etc.) but that didn't do much. It got solved on its own though.
If you ever have any issues or feedback, let us know here, or on Twitter, or email support@ !
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Am I the only one who is either not able to access the website at all or it's very slow? I noticed this only a couple of hours ago and I checked their Twitter and there have been no reports of anything. on my side this is okay, I can enter the site without any problem, although of the 3 mobile operators that exist in my country only 2 they send the refills and I do not receive any sms after I buy the refills, but the refills arrive to my phone... it's been more than 3 weeks that I have this problem Can you tell us which ones you had problems with on the SMS, or email us at support@ ?
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Avoid the risks of escrow and second-hand gift card purchasing by simply shopping at Bitrefill.com - it's fast, simple, and safe and we offer most popular brands as well as mobile refills. https://bitrefill.com
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Bitrefill now fully supports Lightning for payments. Try us out again when you have the chance!
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This specific product is currently out of stock. Should be back in stock in 24 hours!
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You could also save yourself the risks and buy your gift cards from a legitimate vendor with instant delivery, like Bitrefill.comJust saying!
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If there are major gas card or similar businesses you know that support voucher codes, let us know which and we can add them to our list of products to add. We are adding products constantly and want to make sure we carry what users want most!
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I am a long time user of bitrefill and quite eager to try their new account feature for instant recharge.
However i didn't get any deposit address there after registration, area where it supposed to have my deposit address just shows loading image.
Does anybody else have similar problem?
Hi! Yes, we had an issue with deposit addresses on new accounts. We're very sorry about the inconvenience caused. The issue is now resolved, so if you log in again it should work fine!
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In here there is no any bitcoin service provider so i can't pay household bills with bitcoin but using bitrefill like sites i can recharge/topup my mobile. I have recharged my mobile several time using bitcoin.
I think you might have used bitrefill site recharge your mobile but even I don't find any site to do the dth or paying bills for electricity or water. If my government approves that bitcoin as the centralised money then obviously I can do that. Bitrefill actually supports DTH and other things like that. Go through to your country page (for example www.bitrefill.com/india/)
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