So , what's going to be next? Up or down? Is it worth to buy BTC now and hold it for quite a lot of time? How do U think?
You might make some in the short run but my advice would be to SELL SELL SELL. This bitch is going to crush so bad you will be biting your elbows. |
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Freaking gypsies man, convincing people they are Gods to swindle them out of BTC!
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I will quote myself when you won't be able to sell the BTC and get half the price of your house, no doubt at the back of my mind.
Bitcoins won't last as an investment, stop with the greed.
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I have made a semi accurate prediction, bow down thee
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I don't see many logical motives for the CIA's role in BTC It really is amazing how ignorant most of you are. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_ManI was initially recruited while I was in business school back in the late sixties by the National Security Agency, the nation’s largest and least understood spy organization; but ultimately I worked for private corporations. The first real economic hit man was back in the early 1950s, Kermit Roosevelt, Jr., the grandson of Teddy, who overthrew the government of Iran, a democratically elected government, Mossadegh’s government who was Time‘s magazine person of the year; and he was so successful at doing this without any bloodshed—well, there was a little bloodshed, but no military intervention, just spending millions of dollars and replaced Mossadegh with the Shah of Iran. At that point, we understood that this idea of economic hit man was an extremely good one. We didn’t have to worry about the threat of war with Russia when we did it this way. The problem with that was that Roosevelt was a C.I.A. agent. He was a government employee. Had he been caught, we would have been in a lot of trouble. It would have been very embarrassing. So, at that point, the decision was made to use organizations like the C.I.A. and the N.S.A. to recruit potential economic hit men like me and then send us to work for private consulting companies, engineering firms, construction companies, so that if we were caught, there would be no connection with the government. Besides, if you want to go after the real enemy of humanity you must confront the master these entities serve. War.
Wars happen for a reason. They aren't just fucking random acts for the purpose of consuming armaments. When government agents openly claim that using alternative currencies is "domestic terrorism" and plan to "infiltrate, disrupt and dismantle" them, what the fuck do you people think that means, exactly? Do you think that means regulators are your friends? I support your message fellow intellectual. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfEBupAeo4 |
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Everybody knows Al Gore invented Bitcoin.
That's it... I'm super serial... |
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Basically what you are saying is that although I'm right it still shouldn't prevent the corporate owned government from planting propaganda seeds in the cryptosoil in advance?
No, not that. I'm saying they do have a legitimate reason for knowing about bitcoin. It does have national security implications. The CIA was also an early player on the internet as well. They could see that this was going to change spycraft. I think bitcoin will as well. They are not going to ignore something this big. Neither are the other intelligence services all over the world. Why pick the CIA instead of MOSAD or any others. They are all into bitcoin right now. Take your pick. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intelligence_agencies I can't see myself agreeing to meet the CIA like Gavin did especially that early on, why would I want to meet with the enemies of Bitcoin let alone the enemies of humanity, intelligence agencies aren't above the game, they are still controlled by the same bankers and thus they are the same racketeers. |
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The claim that they are investigating Bitcoin because it could be used by terrorists to finance an attack instead of corporate interests is the equivalent of me violating your privacy and spying on you 24/7 to check for the boogeyman under your bed. ...
I am with you bro! Right after 9/11 I knew that soon the term terrorist will be used for everything. Especially as a pretext, kinda like they use "kiddy porn" to scare people into giving up rights. But there are people who think like us in the CIA also. And they want to have some knowledge of bitcoin because, although rare, it may be used by an actual terror group. If that happens the CIA wants to be ahead of the curve and know what they are dealing with. It is even conceivable that the CIA might use it themselves. A system that can be used to send money anonymously around the world is certainly going to be explored by all the world's covert services. Basically what you are saying is that although I'm right it still shouldn't prevent the corporate owned government from planting propaganda seeds in the cryptosoil in advance? Sorry but my english is a little bit rusty. Are you implying that everything above bitcoind 0.7 is not trustworthy?
That's exactly what the bitch is saying... |
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The thief would then purchase Gold from a legitimate seller and then resell it for fiat or plain BTC?
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How is this for scary - the current price of Bitcoin is hovering around $666 right as the current news is breaking. (Not that i'm superstitious or anything....)  You must be terrified of Hellcoin then, it has a 66 second block rate with a 666 block value and a 666,666 halving rate. Legend says that anyone who has ever used it was violated anally by Satan for 666 hours. |
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So every couple of weeks a new Satoshi is discovered and all the newbs gather together to discuss whether they just happened to join the community at the right time when Satoshi was discovered.
When are they going to run out of people with the name of Satoshi or Japanese looking people that speak English?
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I hear you Rodeo, and I'm not a conspiracy theorist, nor am I not a not conspiracy theorist ...
-conspiracy theorist
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And I do hear you man. An Idea like this is a plausible idea, but until there is some evidence that's all it is. I think a lot of people at the BF just ignore these threads because there are soooo many. The fact is conspiracies do happen sometimes. When they do, they happen for a reason. Motive is the key! Why would someone infiltrate the BF? what would they gain? It's not like it's a secret what is being done there. You could just ask what's going on and I'll tell you. Or read for yourself. Very little of the foundation's website is not viewable. In short there is no logic in "infiltrating' an org that makes itself public. As far as the government not being very interested in BTC. I can tell you that the policy makers I have met with know zero about bitcoin. It is just not on their radar. In circles like the CIA they are aware of BTC. But that is their job right? It is plausible to be concerned about real terrorist using BTC to finance an attack. They just want to know what is and how it works. But there is no evidence that they care to attack crypto currencies. Governments keep talking about terrorists using BTC to finance an attack yet I have never seen a single murder being carried out with BTC let alone a sale of a weapon of mass destruction contrary to the thousands that happen with fiat. When the perpetrator pays for a "hit" with BTC in advance it leaves little to no motive for the killer to actually carry it out, if the killer murders someone in advance it leaves little to no motive for the perpetrator to pay him using BTC, no one will create a marketplace for hits because it is immoral and would come with a hefty sentence for the owners when caught in addition to the market being non existent, due to this Mexican standof(ish) situation cryptocurrencies are an inefficient method for paying for anything order than weed to someone you don't personally know. Most current Bitcoin "killers" will ask the perpetrator to pay a traveling fee in advance and then happily disappear after, I call this the "stupidity tax". Where will you find a person bad enough to be escrow? All terrorist attacks and hits are carried out using paper fiat in person, furthermore it is incredibly easy for terrorist organizations to acquire weapons via SOFEX, one of the countless freelancers working for the government or even the corrupt generals who have been armed by the U.S. in Pakistan and still continue to do Chae boys up the butt. The claim that they are investigating Bitcoin because it could be used by terrorists to finance an attack instead of corporate interests is the equivalent of me violating your privacy and spying on you 24/7 to check for the boogeyman under your bed. Every time a government uses this misleading euphemism we can safely establish that it is corrupt and seeking to eliminate the competition of the very people financing them. The spread of anti-terrorism is nothing more but propaganda to strip you of your liberty. |
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I do try to refute these things when I see no basis for them. However it is hard to keep up with so many crazy theories. I have, for example, been accused of being an alien. I don't know how to respond to that.
This particular theory is not so crazy, some business may pay membership to have access to the forums. If I were CEO of PayPal I would do that. But so what? They are welcome to join. It's not like membership gives them any advantage over other bitcoin users.
One thing I have learned here is that some people desperately want a grand conspiracy. They can't accept that the government does not know about nor give a crap about bitcoin. So they invent a story about the CIA or secret societies. After a while they forget that no facts back the story and choose to believe their own fantasy. Perhaps they just want to be part of something bigger than their real lives?
Even if I was within the foundation I would probably answer in a less confident manner than you. This has already happened previously with Wikileaks so this "conspiracy theory" has its grounds, we know for a fact that there was an active campaign to discredit Assange with anything and everything they have against him, they were even desperate enough to begin pointing out irrelevant facts to make him seem "weird" like that he dyed his hair white or didn't shower frequently so there was definitely government involvement in putting an organization less dangerous than the Bitcoin Foundation apart. I would say that it isn't even a conspiracy theory as much as it is an unspoken fact among the educated intellectuals of the community, not less of an unspoken fact than that the government was spying on everyone prior to the Snowden revelations, the masses might have not been aware of this but we sure have been. I can recall people discussing this as early as internet and of course every intellectual knew this at the back of his mind. |
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If you know the foundation has been "infiltrated" by Dr. Evil, then do tell. Who is this evil mysterious person?
The fact that you haven't been infiltrated is highly unlikely, no amount of rhetorical questions will change that. |
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So while watching the movie about Wikileaks Assange makes a comment about one of the biggest mistakes that he made while establishing Wikileaks was recruiting some unreliable people that ultimately turned out to be undercovers according to him.
This raises the question on whether the foundation is/has already been infiltrated? Are a bunch of Dr. Evils trying to introduce potentially flawed technologies (or could have already introduced them) and have them within the source?
Of course the average pseudo-intellectual would argue that we can all view the source and if we deem it unjust we could just fork it, this answer is not satisfactory and fails the same way democracy fails. If we watch over statistical data we can see that the political party with the most hours in the media always takes the first place, we can then establish that the average person lacks absolutely any means of thinking for themselves. How is Bitcoin any different if the strongest leaders all have their Gríma Wormtongues whispering nonsense into their ears until they lose the ability to think rationally and ultimately turn against us, the community?
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This is the logical fallacy that most Bitcoiners fall into, they will PGP 4016 encrypt all their messages, generate the wallet in an offline linux machine etc only to be hit with a 12 dollar wrench on the head until he gives up the password.
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Man I really need to become a prominent public figure in Bitcoin, because every time the news come out I can't help but think "I TOLD YOU SO, I TOLD YOU SO" but I wasn't shouting nearly loud enough when making the predictions.
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I lol'd
Then I cried
Luckily I dumped all my BTC at 900$ buying at higher than 100$ for investment just seems crazy to me. |
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 I lol'd |
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