Look at Portugal. They have decriminalized all drugs, and so far it has been a success. There is something that can be learned from the many different approaches used throughout the world in the past few decades. The approach the Philippines is currently taking has been done many times and has only resulted in failure. This is nothing new.
Well, let's wait and watch. So far the people have been happy about it, and the crime has been down. Most of the drug kingpins have been either eliminated or detained. Only a few have managed to escape to abroad. I don't think we need to really wait much longer to see the impact of this policy. It was decriminalized in 2001, so 16 years has passed, and there has not been an increase in drug use during this time, obviously less people thrown in prison, and diseases like HIV have also decreased significantly. I'm not saying Portugal has done the perfect job, because it's only decriminalization. Full legalization would yield even more benefits, because it will involve regulation and quality control of the actual product. As long as you force people to get their drugs illegally, the real risk to their health is that the substance is not pure, and is either something different than what they're saying, or has been cut with other substances. But all in all, decriminalization is a step forward in civil liberty, which is the opposite direction of the Philippines. They are taking a step backwards. |
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I don't think so my reasons are,,,first the government use the money realized from it for special duties and payment of salaries again for the maintenance of infrastructures and all that...secondly most countries budgets do come from their taxation. So its cool for a country or group of people to pay taxes
Would it be cool if you were forced to pay a used car dealership for an old car of their choice, for the price of their choice? And if you didn't pay for the old car of their choice, then you might need to defend yourself or go to jail? See you can walk away from that car dealership, and no one is forcing you to buy anything. But you can't walk away from paying the government. You are forced to purchase the service that the government is choosing to give you. If the price is too high for the service you get, you don't have the choice of saying "no thanks, I'll shop around". In an ideal environment, the government will give you exactly what you'd want, but realistically the government gives you exactly what it wants. Then you're stuck with the bill. |
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there is no recreational drugs. if you are using any of the mentionated drugs, u gotta look for treatment. You think that u are only getting wasted and actually you are escaping from ur reality and as u climb the "drugs stairs" when u get to the top of it. U gonna be wasted for real. U will only have 3 places to go. Cemetery, clinic or jail. its gonna be up to u . good luck
Yeah, very wrong hobby, No good will be given to drugs, if you use drugs. You get high and you can do something wrong, all i can say is dont waste time to use drugs because it is not good to us .it does have a bad effect. Certainly but there are drugs that used for its healing property or medicinal value and that is cannabis oil which can be extracted to the marijuana. Other than that, I cannot think of any other drugs that has medicinal value. Sad to think that there are these drugs that can be abused by people to think that they have problems and can only be resolved by drugs. Drug addiction cannot do anything good both mentally and physically. There are several naturally occurring plant medicines that have huge medicinal value, cannabis being one of them. Since drug policy is pretty much dictated by the pharmaceutical industry, natural plant medicines from which they cannot profit, and which actually solve problems, will be lobbied to be kept illegal. Cannabis has countless medicinal properties. Psychedelics such as psilocybin, peyote/huachuma, ayahuasca/DMT, or iboga, have powerful medicinal properties. Ayahuasca and iboga have 80% + success rate for people with addiction to substances like alcohol or heroin. Compare that to AA, which has a 5% success rate. MDMA had been used very successfully clinically for people with PTSD, allowing them to successfully revisit traumatic experiences and reconcile their issues that have been tucked away and negatively impacting them and those around them. Then MDMA became illegal and you go back to taking a pill everyday for the rest of your life, and never solving the issue, just trying to mask the symptoms, from big pharma. None of these substances I mentioned are physically addictive. Regardless of the medicinal value, you should not have to go to prison for putting any substance in your body. If you cause harm, then be penalized for the harm you cause (with or without substances). While I agree with a lot of your post, there is one big error. Cannabis is scientifically proven to be both mentally and physically addictive. It is far more mentally/psychologically addictive then physically, but the truth is it really is addictive. If you do not believe me, simply Google "drug addiction chart" to find a plot graph illustrating how addictive a given drug is compared to others. You will see that Marijuana actually ranks quite high in terms of psychological addiction. Furthermore, I have experienced this with multiple people in my lifetime. These individuals truly wanted to quit marijuana, however they were unable to last even a single day before they went out to smoke that night. You do have a valid point, with respect to addiction, and it depends how we define addiction. Enjoying something and wanting to try it again is not something I consider addictive. For substances, I define addiction as something that gives you withdrawal symptoms or health risk with cutting it out altogether. There aren't any of those withdrawal symptoms or risk to health with the substances I've listed above. Psychological addiction is something idiosyncratic to the user, rather than the substance, in my opinion. For example, if a hardcore alcoholic goes absolutely cold turkey, they risk dying. If you go cold turkey on an opioid like heroin, you will experience physical withdrawal symptoms that feel similar to that of the flu for a couple days. Taking that same example of your friends trying to quit cannabis, I could say that I have friends that have tried to quit meat and become vegetarian, yet they went back to eating meat. So then we can say eating meat is addictive in nature, even though it's not. Just depends on the way you look at it. Something that is enjoyable that you want to repeat, vs. something that causes effects of physical withdrawal. |
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there is no recreational drugs. if you are using any of the mentionated drugs, u gotta look for treatment. You think that u are only getting wasted and actually you are escaping from ur reality and as u climb the "drugs stairs" when u get to the top of it. U gonna be wasted for real. U will only have 3 places to go. Cemetery, clinic or jail. its gonna be up to u . good luck
Yeah, very wrong hobby, No good will be given to drugs, if you use drugs. You get high and you can do something wrong, all i can say is dont waste time to use drugs because it is not good to us .it does have a bad effect. Certainly but there are drugs that used for its healing property or medicinal value and that is cannabis oil which can be extracted to the marijuana. Other than that, I cannot think of any other drugs that has medicinal value. Sad to think that there are these drugs that can be abused by people to think that they have problems and can only be resolved by drugs. Drug addiction cannot do anything good both mentally and physically. There are several naturally occurring plant medicines that have huge medicinal value, cannabis being one of them. Since drug policy is pretty much dictated by the pharmaceutical industry, natural plant medicines from which they cannot profit, and which actually solve problems, will be lobbied to be kept illegal. Cannabis has countless medicinal properties. Psychedelics such as psilocybin, peyote/huachuma, ayahuasca/DMT, or iboga, have powerful medicinal properties. Ayahuasca and iboga have 80% + success rate for people with addiction to substances like alcohol or heroin. Compare that to AA, which has a 5% success rate. MDMA had been used very successfully clinically for people with PTSD, allowing them to successfully revisit traumatic experiences and reconcile their issues that have been tucked away and negatively impacting them and those around them. Then MDMA became illegal and you go back to taking a pill everyday for the rest of your life, and never solving the issue, just trying to mask the symptoms, from big pharma. None of these substances I mentioned are physically addictive. Regardless of the medicinal value, you should not have to go to prison for putting any substance in your body. If you cause harm, then be penalized for the harm you cause (with or without substances). |
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Same goes here even if our president now focuses too much on the war in Mindanao patrol police are becoming more active specially during at night which results to lesser crime and i am loving it
I am not a resident of the Philippines. But if the crime rate is going down, then it is very good news. I don't care what methods are Duterte using. But despite the harsh nature of his measures, the crime is down and it is a reason for celebration. Yes and thank you for noticing that, the crime rate is down specially in Metro Manila. And this is a relief for most of us who lives in the Manila. I agree, its really harsh but the population is really feeling 'good" because of this. The satisfaction rating of President Duterte is stil high based on the last survey done, which only means that the general population is satisfied of what they are seeing. Although I have said that the war on drugs is really hard and difficult to stop, at least we are heading on the right direction. And for those members, saying that this will not be a effective method, then to each its own. Someone has to step in and not let our country become Mexico or used as trans shipment of drugs across Pacific Rim. And that is our beloved President Duterte. I'm not sure what the drug production industry is like in the Philippines, but it is the harsh prohibition in Mexico that has caused it to have a big problem. If Mexico legalized drugs, they wouldn't have the drug problem they do today. And actually if you look back in the history of South America, the problem started to get big once the government tried to eliminate the drug industry. The more strict they got gave even more power to the drug cartel, to the point where the drug cartel owned their own military, which the government will have difficulty competing with and will always result in a bloodbath. Look at Portugal. They have decriminalized all drugs, and so far it has been a success. There is something that can be learned from the many different approaches used throughout the world in the past few decades. The approach the Philippines is currently taking has been done many times and has only resulted in failure. This is nothing new. |
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i do not know why people are interested in getting married of the same sex, it is absolutely insane and weird, marriage is an institutional base, it is the foundation of any society, without this bondage you can not imagine a family or society, so it requires male and female for the purpose of regenerating the family, without different sex person how can one give birth a child?
You not understanding it shouldn't really have anything to do with their choice to get married right? I'm sure you don't really understand how your cell phone communicates with the cell tower/antenna, but it doesn't have to be illegal to use a phone right? Not every straight marriage chooses to have children. And even though that may something you have difficulty in understanding, it's still their choice. In that same way, gay people should be able to choose whether they want to be married. There are financial and tax benefits that they would otherwise receive, and some people want to be part of that social institution. Maybe they can see it as a symbol of commitment. The reason isn't even important. |
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bitcoin trading is one of the best platforms for me, from here anyone can make more money without hassle. but proper knowledge is the major criteria to do well in this section. you have to know its operational activities and how to control and how to manage. if you follow the proper method then it will be helpful for you making money more and more...
In a way it can also be a hassle especially for newer traders seeing their investments take a plunge on a dump. But you're right. Trading, with proper knowledge and timing, is one of the best ways to make money. But you half to take it seriously with all the studies and observation you have to make to come.up with a good trade. I agree with you that it can be a hell of a task for newbies but that's the learning curve they must go through in order to master trading. Everyone at the very beginning made naive decisions and list somehow stupidly but in the end we are all trading with experience now. If they will take the help from any expert then it will be convenient for these newbies. They will be able to work like we people are doing or it is also possible that they get the training form any highly expert person and he start to earn more higher. In other words, it is always better to have an expert coach than figure it out yourself how to earn more money. It is like in the game of basketball, coach are they for a purpose and if there are no coaches, they will not perform well - it is the same with learning ways to earn more money. It's just a learning process that takes experience like anything else. You definitely don't always need to be coached. If you have adequate aptitude to learn and put yourself in a learning environment, you'll eventually go from novice to master. Sure you can get a coach, but what's the coaches personal interest? Need to be able to differentiate someone that wants to help you from someone that wants to help themselves. |
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Unfortunately dude, many people here are only able to parrot the bullshit we have been fed by our grade 3 teachers. "Say no to drugs", "Stay away, stay safe!" with a nice jingle to it lol
When I was in elementary school, they would basically have like one day a year where they'd "educate" us on drugs. They would have a list of some of the more popular illegal drugs, plus tobacco and alcohol. Then they'd basically fear monger you by saying if you dare try any of these drugs, you'll turn into, and they'd show a picture of video of a heroin/meth addict that had deep psychological issues (which they obviously wouldn't mention). Basically if you smoke a joint, you're going to end up on the streets, shaking in the fetal position.
What % of the population takes the time to do research and properly educate themselves on the different classes and effects of drugs? I'd be impressed if even 5% did. Most people on this forum only understand legal vs. illegal. They don't understand the difference between a stimulant and an opioid, a depressent, sedative, psychedelic, etc. They don't understand that legal morphine is the same thing as illegal heroin. Gladly go to the hospital and get morphine straight into the bloodstream, yet want a heroin user dead. Victims of propaganda and ignorance.
I am glad that you are having an educated opinion about the drugs. I see no benefits in banning a section of the drugs, while legalizing some others such as Oxycodone so that the pharma cartels can profit out of them. I am particular interested in consciousness and altered consciousness, so the world of drugs is something that fascinates me. I spent about 3 years researching and educating myself on the world of drugs, and the history of policy and prohibition, and not that I don't have more to learn, but I have addressed a lot of the ignorance I had, and can relate to these folks with. But I didn't have a strong opinion, either way. We have some very strong opinions here, from misinformed people. It's important to understand the history of prohibition. It has nothing to do with the safety or health of the citizens. It is only hooking up special interests (church, cotton, paper, petroleum, alcohol, tobacco and pharmaceutical industries all had an interest in keeping certain drugs illegal - mostly cannabis/hemp). Doesn't anyone wonder why you have a healthy man that smokes weed and can be put in jail without harming anyone. Then you can have a sick man, that will be given THE SAME weed by a doctor and now it is "medicine". But if you're healthy you're abusing drugs? How people are stupid enough to fall for this, is beyond me. |
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I do not support same-sex marriages and same-sex relationships. This is a complete debauchery and degradation of society. Each of us had a soft and caring mom who fed us and a strong dad who protected us and provided for the family. Now imagine when 2 adult men will be guided only by testosterone and protect their children. Will grow up inferior children who have not seen maternal caress and care, because men have much less hormone that is responsible for sympathy.
Apart from the lack of maternal care, research has shown that gay parents are much more likely than heterosexual parents to sexually abuse their children. More than one-third of the sexual abuse is homosexual in nature, despite gays constituting for no more than 2% of the population. Please share the source of this research you're referencing. Almost everyone that I grew up with in Toronto (liberal, multicultural, let's say top 5 city to live in the world), had their parents beat them, excluding myself. Not any case of this was reported as "abuse". I've only seen gay people as the victim's of abuse rather than the abuser. Anyways, I'm interested to see where you got this information from. |
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I do not support same-sex marriages and same-sex relationships. This is a complete debauchery and degradation of society. Each of us had a soft and caring mom who fed us and a strong dad who protected us and provided for the family. Now imagine when 2 adult men will be guided only by testosterone and protect their children. Will grow up inferior children who have not seen maternal caress and care, because men have much less hormone that is responsible for sympathy.
Not everyone grows up with those ideal circumstances. Some people have single mothers or single fathers, or divorced parents, or diseased parents. Some have parents that have addiction problems, or psychological issues. Some parents are abusive physically or verbally. Some parents just ditch their kids entirely and move on with life. Those are all problems with straight parents. |
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So anyone who is addicted to a drug deserves to die in the Philippines ? .... wow just wow......
Tobacco is a drug
Paracetamol is a drug
Ibuprofen is a drug
Alcohol is a drug
Ointments are drugs
Many normal everyday legal products that contain chemicals, some of which are derivatives of drugs could be used and you wouldn't be killed.....
Where's all the petrol heads and paint sniffers ? Why not off them too ? After all they just go to the bowser and fill up to sniff off and they get a free pass ?
As many people have mentioned in this thread previously drugs will never be rid of in the world, most of them come from naturally occurring plants which are then combined with other plants or ingredients or extracted to be purified..... gonna rid the world of psychoactive and medicinal plants then ?
I seriously doubt the Philippines could become EDEN.
If this person is a Filipino, I do apologize on what this person did/posted. I am really sorry. My GOD ! I've pointed out the apparent but obvious to you bunch defending the way this is being approached yet you can't seem to fathom what I and others are trying to explain... Take for instance Paracetamol Forte, it is exactly that... Paracetamol mixed with Codeine, now that is a legal drug that you do not even require a prescription for, Codeine is derived from the Opioid family (From the Opium Plant) which is also used to make anesthetic in hospitals for surgery and for pain relief, so in saying that one can buy boxes of the stuff and then become addicted to it because it is an Opioid and it is still perfectly legal. Now how is it justify-able to kill the above legal codeine user if he is addicted to the same family of stuff that hard addicts are addicted to ? He just wanted to rid his pain (Could be post-surgery) and he gets killed for it because his body has grown accustomed to it. As the previous user freeyourmind pointed out, in many countries this is rife, Legal highs are all the rage since you can't get incarcerated for it even though it is just as dangerous. Let us go onto the topic of Cough Syrup, it contains Dextromethorphan, you know what that is right ? A legal sedative, dissociative and stimulant.... now you can go buy a bottle from your local chemist drink a bottle of that stuff and be off your rocks like somebody who is on PCB or Bath Salts and again this is a perfectly legal Drug but people can and do abuse it. The point I am trying to make here is that hard drugs are not always the real killers, it is the mind behind the affected individual who is ! Unfortunately dude, many people here are only able to parrot the bullshit we have been fed by our grade 3 teachers. "Say no to drugs", "Stay away, stay safe!" with a nice jingle to it lol When I was in elementary school, they would basically have like one day a year where they'd "educate" us on drugs. They would have a list of some of the more popular illegal drugs, plus tobacco and alcohol. Then they'd basically fear monger you by saying if you dare try any of these drugs, you'll turn into, and they'd show a picture of video of a heroin/meth addict that had deep psychological issues (which they obviously wouldn't mention). Basically if you smoke a joint, you're going to end up on the streets, shaking in the fetal position. What % of the population takes the time to do research and properly educate themselves on the different classes and effects of drugs? I'd be impressed if even 5% did. Most people on this forum only understand legal vs. illegal. They don't understand the difference between a stimulant and an opioid, a depressent, sedative, psychedelic, etc. They don't understand that legal morphine is the same thing as illegal heroin. Gladly go to the hospital and get morphine straight into the bloodstream, yet want a heroin user dead. Victims of propaganda and ignorance. |
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This will be successful IF the Government can really imprison and kill the Rich People who are behind in this Drug activities. Can this administration do it? For the whole year of this campaign the answer is a NO, I hope for the following year President Duterte can do this. Exactly, I am not being negative here but i am just being a realistic.
I hope government will also find ways to create more jobs for the poor Filipinos.
There are many big people behind in the Drug Activity Industry, and President Duterte thinks that it can be easily solved?NO.
There is money in Drugs, don't expect that it will die down that easy.
The summary of people who died on this activity is either POOR or innocent (the rich can't be killed lol)
It will never be successful. In order for a country to be drug free, every citizen needs to be against its use. As long as there is ANY demand for drugs, and there will be, there will be an opportunity for profit. As always, there will be some people that will seize this opportunity and become a supplier for the financial rewards that come with it. If you think you can kill the supplier, then another supplier will take the last one's place. And that will go on forever. Don't you find it odd that the countries that fight the "drug war" the most, have the largest drug cartels? A drug cartel cannot exist, unless strict prohibition exists. As soon as you legalize drugs, the drug cartels lose their opportunity. Unfortunately most people don't understand this very basic concept. |
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With the introduction of mobile in this world many things have become easy to connect with one and other. I think the first mobile phone was invented in the year 1973 by Motorola (if i am not wrong). From that mobile phone has become very essential in our day today life. Now a days no one will forget to take their mobile along with them. The reason is we are living in a fast moving world where social life is centered around the mobile phones. Mobile phones are the No:1 culprit in damaging our social life and family life. People have started Texting instead of talking and visiting.There was also many debates which has happen if mobile phones are a boon or bane.
According to you, introduction of mobile phones is a boon or bane to the society???
The advantages of mobile phone technology far outweigh the disadvantages. Mobiles have changed the world's way of life. Faster and efficient communication is the key to development. On a side note, I really miss my old Motorolla Timeport 280 with an antenna.  Lol, just google image'd that. You don't really miss it haha Reminds me of my first phone - Nokia 8130. This was when each phone was getting smaller than the previous generation, and it was all about getting smaller and this was a "candy bar" phone. Screen size didn't mean anything. So I got this tiny phone only to see that when I call people, the phone doesn't even make it halfway from my ear to my mouth and it's not the most clear sounding lol. After that, it seemed phones started getting bigger again. |
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With the introduction of mobile in this world many things have become easy to connect with one and other. I think the first mobile phone was invented in the year 1973 by Motorola (if i am not wrong). From that mobile phone has become very essential in our day today life. Now a days no one will forget to take their mobile along with them. The reason is we are living in a fast moving world where social life is centered around the mobile phones. Mobile phones are the No:1 culprit in damaging our social life and family life. People have started Texting instead of talking and visiting.There was also many debates which has happen if mobile phones are a boon or bane.
According to you, introduction of mobile phones is a boon or bane to the society???
It can be both, depending on the user, like any tool. With proper use of tools, you can build yourself a house, and with those same tools, you can end up in the hospital if used incorrectly. For those without mental discipline, it's easy to get sucked into the addictive nature of a smartphone and repetitively needing updates or social recognition. But it can also be used to make your life more convenient, have access to the world's information, etc. Just depends what you use it for. |
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Adoption is key. Same reason why useless USD fiat is #1 over other useless fiat currencies. It's just accepted by more of the world (global reserve).
At the end of the day, I think that the asset based crypto's like Golem or Angur or Storj will eventually become very popular, since there is a purpose in the processing power dedicated to it. Bitcoin requires a lot of processing power, which doesn't have an underlying purpose, other than being secure.
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It does not matter what the money is spent on.
Are taxes voluntary in any country?
Making taxes voluntarily won't work. Because if that is implemented, then a section of the population will be subsidizing the others. Either there should be no taxes, or everyone should pay the taxes. A section of the population already subsidizes others through taxes, since there's no proportional contribution based on services used. Those that use government services usually contribute the least, and those that use the least contribute the most. It's the nature of the game...it's a forced wealth transfer, with the government keeping some for themselves. Ultra wealthy get to loop hole their way out of paying what would normally be perceived. |
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Being a religious Hindu, I cannot support same sex marriage. In my religion, marriage is defined as something between a male and a female. It can't be between two men, or two women. Also, in my country, a lot of these homosexuals are engaged in pedophilia and child porn. They are also fueling a HIV epidemic, at least in some parts of my country.
If we look at religion,. all religions forbid this,, but in the result there are many people who do not believe in religion., then this is what triggers many events same-sex marriage., and this has been penetrated almost to all parts of the world,. same-sex marriage has Many assume that it is an ordinary thing.. Religious folks have a difficult time understanding that it is only a belief system and there are people that don't share that belief system. So it is fair for them to set the rules, and have the non-believers obey these rules. How dare individuals have their own freedom?  |
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I have been trading in this exchanges like, poloniex, yobit, liqui, cryptopia for long time and they are good but one thing should be known that never keep your all coins in exchanges, i keep only coins which if lost i can afford the loss.
How would an exchange compare to using shapeshift which is attached to some wallets? That way your coins are kept in your own wallet with private key rather than exchange, but the fees aren't explicit. It seems to just give you the exchange rate, with fees implicitly embedded within it. I'm using the Jaxx wallet for example, which has shapeshift in it. I'd assume an exchange would have a lower fee, but there is value in keeping the coins in your wallet vs. an exchange. |
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I'm also interested in which exchanges have the lowest fees, but still have decent volume. If the fees are low and there isn't enough volume, it becomes difficult to get the exchange rates that are listed on the exchange.
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Yet the legal drugs are the ones that kill the most people by far. So assuming that this dude does really care about his country and its citizens, why focus on illegal drugs? Tobacco and alcohol kill the overwhelming majority, with legal prescription drugs coming in 3rd place. This may come as a surprise to most people, once you put aside the stigma and illusions associated with "dangerous" illegal drugs. Tobacco kills the most people of any drug, and is highly addictive, yet no one gives half a shit about it being legal. Then there are naturally occurring drugs like cannabis and psilocybin which have zero deaths and aren't addictive, and the misinformed idiots form a strong opinion to keep them illegal.
Pardon for interfering but here is my opinion. He focus on illegal drugs because this does not only aggraviate the user but also those innocent people. Always been hearing a murder and a rape case of a grandma, mother and a daughter in one house without there father(working on nightshifts). These illegal drug user is the main cause. There are cases that even babies were raped because of them. Now I know that that tobacco smoking kill also innocent, and by that I mean non smokers, but it can be prevented, but illegal drugs effect is unacceptable and inhuman those that are affected has no control over what will possibly happen. Rape is horrible, no debating that. But there is no drug that causes people to rape each other. There is an underlying psychological problem with the rapist. I'm curious as to which drug is being used to cause rape? There was a movie that came out in 1936 called Reefer Madness, and it was a movie about cannabis causing manslaughter, suicide and rape. This movie got all the ignorant people afraid of the effects of cannabis through this and other types of propaganda. So be careful of what bullshit you take as truth. If you look outside of your own country, do you see the same phenomenon where drug users are becoming rapists? According to that theory, countries with the most "illegal" drug use would have the highest rape statistics, but that is not the case. It's easy to blame everything on drugs, but there is obviously much more to the story. |
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