The only other currency that I could think of that really would be safe to the point of having no issues with the bitcoin price flucation would be FIAT currencies such as USD which are not going to be affected by Bitcoin in the least, they may even increase value (alongside other FIAT currencies of course) People on here may say the best bet is going to be some shitcoin but it's going to have an issue exchanging back into bitcoin so I'd just go ahead and switch to USD if you fear a crash incoming of any sort.


I wouldn't want to put my money and trust in the face of the whales, they don't care for anything but some profit.

People really have to stop jumping on the train of that bitcoin prices will just go insanely high one day and we will all become millionaries. You people on this forum that beleive this do understand that people are going to have to buy bitcoin at these insane prices too? There has to be a demand for the prices that people are speculating or nothing will occur and no one will be able to say.

Liquidity it any current moment is key, on Bitcoin it is present at the moment without issues but if a "To the moon" would occur with the price the entire marketplace will be thrown into limbo, who knows what could occur.


If we want mass adoption the price increases and decreases cant keep occurring like this, bitcoin just won't be massively adopted if this occurs it's simple as people don't want to buy into a currency then have less money in that currency within minutes due to market volatility.

Site seems disgustingly slow and it doesn't really seem you get much traffic on the site at all, no reviews from people on here that are using it (as I suppose none are using it) so I would feel it would be rather risky to put money into buying this service from someone without a track record.

Is there anyway you could do some sort of vouch copy for a trusted and reputable member of this forum who could provide an unbiased review of the service in order to help out here.

The theme on the site is nice though, even if it's a copy paste kind of theme that is overused.

I'm not feeling this will ever occur due to the presence that paypal already has in the digital world and the a great amount of reputation that it has built up through years and years of happy customers using it while being safe online. People like to use PayPal as they know that if something goes wrong or if someone attempts to scam them, they're able to dispute the charge with PayPal and get their money back. I and everyone else here knows that can be easily abused for fraud and such but if used correctly it is a nice service do have.

PayPal is also deeply rooted in EBay, one of the biggest online marketplaces for goods sold online (besides Amazon - US) so the people on there provide a ton of revenue to PayPal and those fellas. Bitcoin will try, but it is going to have to take a lot of converting and tons of more innovation relating to fees and confirmation time speed in order to catch up to them.

Network is under an insane stress load at the moment and transaction time and fees are spiking so your best bet for your next transaction would be to attempt to pay a higher fee (if possible) in order to get confirmations faster by the miners.

A good tool you can use is VIABTC TX Accelerator which allows for them to attempt to confirm your transaction and it does it much faster then the network would go without their help and support. Currently too many people are using the service so I can't submit yours but once thats over you should go ahead and try every hour if it's still not confirmed.

VIA BTC TX Accelerator - https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/

Best cloud-mining operation at the moment with the best source of recourse at the moment in my opinion would probably have to be NiceHash, I know it doesn't fill the normal definition for these sort of companies as they usually own their own hardware but Nicehash allows mining of tons of coins INCLUDING Bitcoin, Eth, Zcoin, XMR, and so on.

Plus, you only pay for what you use so you can be able to calculate earnings for that time period and it's not as tough to estimate earnings for a long term amount of time (As you don't usually do long term mining with them, usually short term things you plan out beforehand)

Would avoid these cloud mining sites that can just cancel contracts, thats a bunch of bullshit, stick with Nicehash they have real peoples hardware and no bullshit as you can get paid out whenever your pool allows you to.

It's forced me into not allowing myself to do any small transactions and to attempt to minimize the amount of transactions that I do per month, this in turn leads the minimizing of the amount of money that I end up paying in fees when I add that all up at the end of the month. Pretty sad to see this occur as I hadn't cared in the least about before as it had been a minor aspect of my buying things which Bitcoin.


Frustrates everyone, I guess I'll be trying to go with a lower fee for things I don't really need instantly. You pay with your time, if you pay less in money you pay more in time wasted waiting.


You still pay transactions fees, Coinbase themselves just don't charge you any fees for allowing you to use their wallet.

Most of the guides and stuff today put forward by people on this forum, other forums, and the rest of the internet are usually just spreading saturated methods that are just attempting to be a fast grab for peoples money without any recourse on gaining any money at all.

Anything that you sell is probably saturated and is just a waste of money and I would keep it off this forum, you should go to another forum (not going to say the name but people can probably think about ones that accept shitty ebooks) and they'll be very fond of you joining and will accept you with open arms.

Keep these shitty ebooks off here, find any place.

Wouldn't really think of it as a collectible item based on the pure fact that I feel when you collect something you have the ability to touch it, hold it, move it and so on. With bitcoin this is impossible, unless you buy one of those coins that have the private keys for the wallet inside of it. Still, this really doesn't put bitcoin as a collectible.


If you meld your definition and change what the person collects, which is a weird niche but I guess collecting virtual currency could work as you cant touch any of the virtual currencies but a person could still have one coin of each on wallets saved somewhere.


It's considered more of a currency and less of a collectible, this is just someone asking if it COULD be seen as a collectible.

I have a rig at the moment that has a GTX 1080 in it and when I'm not using it I wanted to know what coin would be most profitable to mine, at the moment I'm using one Nicehash which does provide me some money but I've seen others doing this also saying that it would be more profitable to just mine a particular altcoin and then trade that for bitcoin on a weekly to monthly basis.

Let me know guys, thanks!

I'd probably be thinking the stuff behind this is that the people who run the crypto only hosting companies are the ones that know that they're going to be going into a niche market (Bitcoin hosting company) and they know that people will pay a bit more to pay with BTC based on the fact that they don't have a credit card or don't want to use one online.

Weird, but that's how free market capitalism works.

Well at this point I'm more or less expecting a denial of the ETF based on the pure fact of risk for investors based on bitcoins short history. I don't think the ETF denial OR approval will really do much to the price it will just make the volume of trading higher than it is at the moment, more people selling and more people buying will just cause the price to stay where it is.

So, price will stick where it is which will be better for the health of bitcoins growth and adoption.

Would love to speak to some of yall when it comes to speaking about current bitcoin news and all things bitcoin so I'd like to know if anyone knows about a group on Telegram that is used for Bitcoin?

I've seen many groups which are used for altcoin trader, whale trading, and so on but am yet to find a group on just bitcoin but I would guess it's out their.

Thanks!

I still remember the times when you could get a bitcoin transaction confirmed within the next block for 15 cents for the transaction fee and people were still complaining that it was too high. I guess you don't know how good we had it until we lost it and now have to pay $.50 cents for one block $.47 cents for one block. Pretty disgusting in my opinion to see such a high fee when not so long ago it was much cheaper.

People may go ahead and say "well the only people complain are the ones that send around small amount of money" that's a horrid attitude to have when it comes to all of this. If we want Bitcoin to go mainstream this can't occur because lets just say someone wants to buy something for $5.00 do you think they're going to spend 10 percent more to use bitcoin or they're just going to use their credit card or FIAT cash.

People may say that they follow all this bullshit technical analysis when it comes to bitcoin and they watch the crypto news relating to it, but in the end you're really just hoping for bitcoin to go up with a claim on why it SHOULD not why it WILL.

Even through some of the most crazed evidence in the world you could still end up with the opposite result of all your findings based on one big whale selling.


Tons of luck as Bitcoin isn't like a normal stock on wall street, yet I suppose.

Would you be able to send the information over to me with BCT talk account price info so I could really go ahead and see if the account is worth what you say it is. It's tough to just go off the information you give us and for us to go and follow that.

Thanks and I await your reply, send me a PM too if you'd rather it not be public.

Fucking eh man, some people just don't really understand the good mindset of "better be safe then sorry" like would you rather make something more secure in order to make sure someone won't get access to it. Gmail isn't broken in the least and I love using it, but once reading about all of the data that google sells about you it's really disgusting to see all of that information.

They even sell the really important things about you, like lets just say you have some sort of mental disability and they know by the sites you visit for help / support you could easily be targeted for ads on therarpy without an issue and you probably wouldn't bat an eye and just think they're trying to help you.

I personally don't even feel that the Bitcoin ETF is going to be approved based on the pure fact of how volatile and risky Bitcoin is and how easy it would be, based on past history of bitcoin volatility, for an investor to lose all their earnings very quickly.

I'm not saying this risk isn't present when it comes to trading stocks, but everyone here knows bitcoin is much more risky then stocks. In the off-chance for approval, I don't think the Bitcoin price will be affected in a major way due to it, maybe it'll jump a bit then fall a bit.

I feel that people on this forum are still too fully controlled on the idea that Bitcoin is going to overtake all currencies and is better than all currencies we have at the moment. You can't be paying a 50 cent or higher fee on transactions and ATTEMPT to tell me that Bitcoin is better than using a credit card that is accepted everywhere.

I've never agreed with someone higher on this forum when it comes to this subject, hats off to you for noticing the issues with bitcoin at the moment.


I will agree with you on the fact that this internet currency is having issues but I wouldn't go to the extreme of calling it a shitty currency, it's still in its growing nature and I wouldn't go ahead and judge it on it's 8th or 9th year on how well it will do forever.

Take the simple fact that if a site that advertises to be a legitimate business uses the cheap and pretty disgusting domain of .online, they're probably going to be a scam. I'm not saying all sites with .com are going to be legit, but at least they put in enough money to pay for that $10 a domain + hosting.

Any site that advertises as a cloud mining service are probably scams and even if they're reputable they may attempt an exit scam so I would just fully avoid this entire business model, it's doomed to fail in the end. Plus if the site does pay out you're just hurting someone down the line who's going to be getting scammed.