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Being permabear is NOT a good market manipulation strategy, unless he has sell options with long maturity (unlikely).
Permabull, yes, maybe, if you want to get out.
But shouldn't the best strategy be to
1. buy
2. OMG BITCOINS IS GODS GIFT
3. sell
4. OMG SKY IS FALLING
5. goto 1
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Some people here have expressed the idea that bitcoin should hold its value as stock markets crash, but it seems as if bitcoin has depreciated too. Is this attributable to a global dry up of liquidity, risktakers?
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As a self-diagnosed sufferer of Asperger's syndrome who posts on forums about cryptocurrencies and has misogynistic tendencies due to my inability to view women as anything other than a two dimensional caricature based on modern media, I consider myself to be a professional on women.
Like the others in the thread, I believe all women are superficial and care only about shiny objects, clothing, other material goods, and things with matching colors.
I also agree that are too dumb and not selfish enough to grasp perfect idealogies like libertarianism, so here are my suggestions about how to get more women involved in Bitcoins:
Rename wallet.dat to purse.dat, maybe CoCoPurse.dat, women love purses!
Replace long Bitcoin addresses with short dictionary words, like "dog", or "house", or "sexinthecity". Women might be able to work with short words
you are a fucking genius! of course the addresses should be even shorter. bringing us to... namecoins! |
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I am working on accepting bitcoins at my wife's boutique: http://www.heidijosboutique.comUnfortunately I set up the shop before taking Bitcoin into consideration so it will require some modification. Nicely done & professional site. If you added BTC's as a form of payment, I'd think it'd be the first on-line "Boutique"-style store that accepted BTC... I can see the potential female customer now asking her significant other... "But honey... It's only ฿8.92857143... Pretty PLEASE?!" Sounds so much more inexpensive than $125.00 USD throwing in the psychological aspect of it... Cheers, Kermee The decimals HAVE to go. They are everything that is wrong with bitcoin as it is now |
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What they are saying is that once 10% are fanboys, the rest is easy. Duh.
Also, it was in a simulation, so...
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enmaku: sounds like a great idea. push her to follow through . Regarding women being afraid to admit their true sex in the poll, the poll is anonymous. |
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How do we get the women on board? Maybe we should get out from behind the computer and talk to a few... I haven't said two words to my wife since I heard about bitcoin a couple months ago...  Where is this "out" you speak of? Sounds like paradise... Care to give me a link? |
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Sort of yes. But bit-pay.com is not a one stop payment processor. It is only for bitcoins. If bit-pay.com accepted paypal, visa, mastercard, checks etc, then it would what I was looking for
If you have any leverage at these credit card billers, Bit-pay would be willing to work with them to do their bitcoins behind the scenes. So they can offer it, but not have to mess with it. CCBill is another one that alot of people use. If they are interested, have them contact us! Thanks! I do not. But I like your solution! That's probably what should be suggested to them. Just be ware that they may cut out the middleman in time... |
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At the time of writing "no", the poll was showing
men: 20
women: 0
other: 3
hence, "no".
Soooo the member list shows a population of....33548. Why did we think this was a representative sample? It is probably representative of the people in the thread... = here |
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Sort of yes. But bit-pay.com is not a one stop payment processor. It is only for bitcoins. If bit-pay.com accepted paypal, visa, mastercard, checks etc, then it would what I was looking for
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They would get buzz, for being the first payment processor to accept it. They would gain more customers, since people here prefer to pay in bitcoin, and are much more likely to buy something than the average surfer.
Bitcoin is a lot more inviting to buy with than paypal, or mastercard/visa, for two reasons: no need to find card or card reader and it is well known that people buy more when they pay with "tokens" than with "real money", since the brain handles them differently.
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At the time of writing "no", the poll was showing
men: 20
women: 0
other: 3
hence, "no".
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It is my belief that the majority of bitcoin users are males. Females, please prove me wrong through the poll.
Moving on, assuming that my belief is correct, the question is how we get them on board?
Let my first state that I think there is a difference in what would attract men and women to bitcoin. Men are more attracted to the avante garde aspect and the technological aspect, while women are more concerned with which technology works best for them now.
They want shinies, they want fast transfers, they might won over by ideology, but probably not the ideology of libertarianism. They want to use the system that their favorite site uses, and they want to use the system their friends use. This by the way probably describes how mainstream males think too.
How about we assume instead that what we are seeing is a sampling of the gender bias existing in the larger IT-culture population and try to avoid generalizing women as wanting "shiny things". Please explain why there are no women here. Is it because they are in every respect exactly the same as men? I wont say that it is because of biological reasons, because frankly, it doesn't matter. |
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While lobbying individual sites to adopt bitcoin, it is a long ardous process. I think it would be better to ask the payment solution websites to provide bitcoin as a payment option. The benefit would be that it would be a write once, run everywhere solution. Also, since payment processors are only in the business of payment processing, it is more inline with their core business model to implement it. Also, along the same line, we should try to get bitcoin included in the templates and frameworks that people use to create sites, like Drupal, Joomla etc. List of sites to contact: Top prio: http://www.cardservicesales.com/http://merchantwarehouse.com/Mid prio: http://www.nationalbankcard.com/http://www.leadersmerchantservices.com/http://www.chasepaymentech.com/Low prio: http://www.merchantone.com/http://www.thetransactiongroup.net/http://www.merchantexpress.com/http://www.electronictransfer.com/http://www.goemerchant.com/http://www.dhdmedia.com/https://epoch.com/en/index.htmlhttps://klarna.com/http://www.ipaydna.biz/http://www.authorize.net(sweden) http://payson.se(scandinavia) http://www.dibs.se/For Drupal or Joomla, a plugin should proably be created or modified. I don't have the requiste knowledge, but if someone has, it would probably help catapult bitcoin usage into the stratosphere (lol). |
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Girls hate money. That's why they spend it so fast. am I right?! I lol'd. For all of my post's stereotypes though, I'm being serious |
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It is my belief that the majority of bitcoin users are males. Females, please prove me wrong through the poll. Moving on, assuming that my belief is correct, the question is how we get them on board? Let my first state that I think there is a difference in what would attract men and women to bitcoin. Men are more attracted to the avante garde aspect and the technological aspect, while women are more concerned with which technology works best for them now. They want shinies, they want fast transfers, they might won over by ideology, but probably not the ideology of libertarianism. They want to use the system that their favorite site uses, and they want to use the system their friends use. This by the way probably describes how mainstream males think too. Shinies: Lets face it. Bitcoin, in its current state, is not shiny. To make a metaphor, it looks like a very advanced piece of technology with wires going everywhere. Contrast this with the "Apple look". 100 private keys is probably NOT the way to go. It is complicated, and ugly (it could be an option but not standard( Proposal: One private key should be standard. It should not be in hex, bas64, or anything else ugly. One thing that could work would be a sort of dictionary encoding, where every 20 bits or whatever is mapped to a word. The word in the dictionary would have to be carefully selected to be positive, or at least neutral. If this is chosen, there should be a "generate new address", so that people could click until they found one they were satisfied with. The websites used with bitcoins are not pretty either (exchanges+this site). Contrast for instance with this: http://www.westernunion.se/web-inf/images/yes/heroAreaCanIAlone013009.swf (western union) this is what the sites should have to attract women, I believe. Proposal: Find a professional designer that takes a look at the bitcoin client. Preferably one who knows nothing at all about the technology behind. Hide the details of implementation, remember how Object Orientation works Fast transfers: Bitcoins are a lot faster than banktransfers, but they can absolutely not compete with visa/mastercard/paypal in terms of speed. This IS a serious problem. I think the advice given to businesses should be that they should accept transfers directly, or after one confirmation. If there is a reversal accept that as a fact of life. For sites with few but large sales, this may not be the way to go, but for transactions under 10 bitcoin this should def. be the standard. An alternative would be to pay instantly via for instance MtGox, but that would centralize the system, which I believe we don't want. Ideology: Cypher punk is cool, but does not have mainstream appeal, especially among women. We should tone that aspect down, no one cares about it. Thought should be given to whether a more appealing ideology could be retrofitted so to speak. Suggestion: "Your local business is struggling to survive under the death grip of credit card fees. (Pic of small local store. Beautiful female clerk, with lots of styling looks sad, hopeless). But there is a cheaper alternative. Use bitcoin, support your local stores. (Clerk smiling)." This might be construed as too patriotic for some. Too balance it we should emphasize how easy it is to donate to overseas charities, and buy from overseas stores. Favorite sites: This is a hard one obviously. We should try to push existing sites to use bitcoins as much as possible (details about doing this are abundant in other threads of course). We should also try to new stores accepting bit coins to speed up the process. One thing that has been forgotten though, is the focus on stores selling items for women. Friends: Site should have a like button. Encourage users to blog/tweet/comment whenever they use bitcoins for a transaction. |
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There are many ways to deal with this. You could use derivatives to mitigate the risk, you could move your money to another currency, you could prepone consumtion, you could buy stock, you could invest in oil, etc.
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You lost me at unbalanced parenthises
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I get the impression that libertarianists think that there is one and only one correct viewpoint. Am I right in this observation?
Personally I'm morally relativist but not libertarianist
So what you are saying is that you don't feel that morals have absolute truth behind them, yet it is OK to persecute and imprison those with morals different from the majority. Libertarians are united in the belief that people should have the right to think and do whatever they want so long as it doesn't hurt other people. They are not united in a judgment about the "correct viewpoint" outside of that. I'm not even sure what you mean by "correct viewpoint". I assume you talking about cultural paradigms, like moral relativism considers. In a libertarian society, these currently illegal things would likely be legal: Drugs, Weapons, Polygamy, Publishing anything at all, kill eat burn endangered species on your property These currently illegal things might be legal, might not, debatable: Child abuse, statutory rape, drunk driving, domestic violence, pollution on your property, nonpayment of child support/ignoring court orders without going to jail That would remove about 80% of all prisoners/felons in the U.S. from govt. jurisdiction. As a political philosophy, I think it is clear that Libertarianism takes a relativistic view toward morality insofar as it tolerates many behaviors considered so amoral by the majority vote that they have been made crimes punishable by imprisonment. I don't believe that "it is OK to persecute and imprison those with morals different from the majority." , but I desire the world function like that. Libertarians are united in the belief (...) doesn't hurt other people. So then it is as I suspected, at least in your case EDIT: So, upon further checking, it seems that moral relativism has many closely related meaning. Shoot! Well, I feel I have some answers now anyway |
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