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221  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Betting. Why the Distinction? on: April 11, 2024, 10:41:22 AM
I don't want to put so much of things to think of when they're obviously just the same. Whatever term you use, they're both having the same meaning.

So don't stress out with that.

If you say that you're sports gambling, sports betting or casino betting or casino gambling. Do they have the same meaning?

Yes, they do. And that's why it's nonsense to think of their meaning when you actually do them and whatever term you use, you do it.
222  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: "Everyone" is all wrong about Bitcoin... on: April 11, 2024, 09:13:19 AM
If someone trades Bitcoin then it's surely about the deep dips for them to buy at the lowest that they can see and hold it until they can.

Because everyone reasons that Bitcoin is too expensive for them and with its resilience, we're seeing how it's quickly defeating the corrections that are happening on it.

Well, I don't see anything wrong when everyone is thinking like that. What's wrong is that when you've got something to say that you don't support it.
223  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is Bitcoin the best asset for investment currently? on: April 10, 2024, 11:37:55 PM
The gold investors and fans would argue about it having limited resources or supply too. But no one knows what measurement and what exactly is the limit of it.
I have not read anywhere about anyone claiming that gold is of limited supply and anyone with such argument is either ignorant of just playing to the gallery. Gold is still being mined in West Africa and several other locations in the world and the supply is never limited. Australia have an estimated reserve of 12,000 metric tons of gold, so where is the statement of gold having limited supply coming from?
Do you think that all of the minerals and natural resources of the world is unlimited?

The Earth has a limited amount of gold in its crust and experts are estimating that it may be unsustainable to mine gold by 2050. Compared to the nearly 4,000-7,000 year history of humans mining gold, that’s barely a blink of an eye.

Compared to Bitcoin, we all know that it's got 21 million supply and the last Bitcoin to be mined will take 120+ years before it happens.
By putting a limit on the supply of Bitcoin, I think it was designed to increase in price as the supply will never exceed demand on the long run, simple economics. Those who know this will naturally see why Bitcoin should be considered an option for the long term. Investment in Bitcoin is truly the best anyone can think of as it will keep getting better with time.
No doubt with that, we're all for Bitcoin and we've been holding the best asset of all time.

The gold investors and fans would argue about it having limited resources or supply too. But no one knows what measurement and what exactly is the limit of it.

Compared to Bitcoin, we all know that it's got 21 million supply and the last Bitcoin to be mined will take 120+ years before it happens.

With all of the comparisons and aspects of Bitcoin, it's no doubt a phenomenal asset that everyone should look at.
The earth is just too big, so we can’t say how limited gold is. And gold likely doesn’t exist only on earth. It could exist in massive quantities out there. Though what’s better about it is that it was printed by the earth, its earth money, unlike fiat that is printed at any time and any day and at their own will.
Yeah, we don't have an idea how limited it is. But just take a look at the perspective of the whole world. The land is limited, the housing is limited, the trees are limited unless you keep on planting and so as the diamonds, fossil fuels and other precious metals such as gold.

You're right that there's a possibility that it's also existing in some other planets or outer space but can you imagine how much resources that the explorers will get just to get out there?

Thus, we're only discussing the limit that it has got in our world.
224  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting Patterns in Baccarat? on: April 10, 2024, 10:34:29 PM
Do you mean the streamers? They don't gamble at all when they're streaming with a particular casino playing games like baccarat.

As you've said, it's based on pure luck, and whatever strategy of changing their post as a banker or player or vice versa, it doesn't matter at all.

And as for the strategy, it's associated with pattern though and many have already said that it can be martingale but if you're not a fan of it then just gamble casually without thinking of any pattern or build some on your own.
225  Economy / Gambling / Re: Nextslot.bet - Random Slot Picker on: April 10, 2024, 09:39:17 PM
Interesting. IMO, is it possible for you to have this idea credited to you because it's going to be copied by other slot casinos? Or it's also possible that you've just used it from another's inspiration and you're not the sole origin of the idea.

Anyway, you really have a good and interesting idea for someone who can't decide to pick. So, as a solution you've made it easy for your players.

Now, the part is all about the kyc and I guess in the future when you become popular you'd ask for it.
226  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Celebrity Poker Games: Publicity Stunt or Genuine Passion? on: April 10, 2024, 08:39:13 PM
IMO, whether it is a publicity stunt so that they will gain another exposure in the public or not. They are free to do whatever they want.

The gambling industry is open for everyone, whether you're a celebrity or not. I wouldn't be too problematic with how it goes with these people if they're doing it on a purpose.

It is their money to spend and they're just having fun just as how we have fun and trying to make some money off it.
227  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2024 NBA Season on: April 09, 2024, 11:53:43 PM
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If the Warriors will face the Wolves, I think the series will be over soon as the Wolves are gonno impose their dominance in the paint which the Warriors doesn't have.
Don't be so sure about Warriors getting dominated in the paint. They have Draymond that can do all the tricks up his sleeves and get away with little punishment. Who knows if he'll start kicking nuts again and act as if it was a natural movement of his feet. Maybe the refs would also allow him to grab someone by the neck like what he did to Patty Mills and call it a normal foul.
This made me laugh, honestly.

But sure that Dray can do all of the techniques that he's been doing all of his career. That's what they can count him for but seriously speaking, we're going to see some more intention actions from him with physical contacts if they're needed.

Actually, they're not needed at all but they're normal actions of Dray that has always been calling the attention for most of the fans that do see him play as if it's normal.
228  Economy / Gambling / Re: Why not create a Gambling platform on Market narrative? on: April 09, 2024, 10:51:57 PM
If there's a demand on it then sure that the providers will make one for it. But despite the trend and hype that with all of the mentioned narratives, it just can't be made too easy.

I guess the closest one is just with the market of Bitcoin predicting its price through options. The idea is there but are the developers willing to invest in its development as it will cost them money and resources?

While it sounds good and workable but whenever these trends and narratives goes down, I guess betting on it will also decrease so as the demand. If some devs will make one, they should make a market study before proceeding to this kind of betting.
229  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Decentralized vs Centralized Gambling....Which do you prefer? on: April 09, 2024, 09:57:12 PM
In relation to countries, I believe that the centralized one is the best option, as it can adapt better unlike the decentralized one. One can just not show some games or limit the users who enter or withdraw funds. While the other needs to be regulated because it involves crypto and only then needs to be regulated as a casino. So it's a very difficult path.
Centralized casinos are still the best option for the majority of us. It's like a complete package that a gambler is looking for unless that gambler is meticulous and wants to find some more.

All of the features of centralized gambling is what a typical gambler finds while with the decentralized gambling, it just makes hard things to do for a gambler.

I sure hope gambling dApps improve to a point where it becomes cost-effective and easy enough to participate on them. Layer-2 seems to be the future for this. Who knows if someday decentralized casinos become as comparable as their centralized counterparts? Grin
More attempts needed for these decentralized gambling to prove that they're worth it and foolproof.
230  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is Bitcoin the best asset for investment currently? on: April 09, 2024, 01:41:24 PM
"Someone can mine more gold" is exactly same to "Someone can mine more Bitcoin", do you think all Bitcoin has been mined? Cheesy

The gold investors and fans would argue about it having limited resources or supply too. But no one knows what measurement and what exactly is the limit of it.
Because gold has no exact maximum supply, but we're know it's not easy to mine gold, it can be used for jewelry or other thing and that's make gold is valuable.
I think that the only comparison if it's related to mining and supply limit is that, we know that there's a limit for gold but we don't know how much it exactly is. Whilst for Bitcoin, there's a supply limit but we won't be there until one has been mined.

It's true that it's not easy to mine gold just like Bitcoin. The hash power and electricity that's needed to do it is enormous and the same for the resources and equipment needed to mine gold.

So, the value starts from there and people have been realizing this I guess. And just as with the use of gold for those other products, the same goes for Bitcoin that it can also be used but more than that and has more utility and use case than gold.

Actually gold can be created with other elements, although it's not worth due to the cost is higher than the gold price https://www.wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/2014/05/02/can-gold-be-created-from-other-elements/
It's still different if it's pure which I think is the preference of most gold investors.
231  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is Bitcoin the best asset for investment currently? on: April 09, 2024, 12:27:46 PM
The gold investors and fans would argue about it having limited resources or supply too. But no one knows what measurement and what exactly is the limit of it.

Compared to Bitcoin, we all know that it's got 21 million supply and the last Bitcoin to be mined will take 120+ years before it happens.

With all of the comparisons and aspects of Bitcoin, it's no doubt a phenomenal asset that everyone should look at.
232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What's your top performing altcoin this year so far?? on: April 08, 2024, 11:43:53 PM
ETH and BNB for me.

I've missed those rounds when I can buy all of those uprising meme coins and will definitely dump them when I get 2x-5x just for safe investing but never did I any of them.

I still have a long round for ETH and BNB and this is like the bet that I am having for this upcoming bull run aside from Bitcoin. Because they're moving nicely and I like seeing them move stably.
233  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [FULL] BK8 Signature Campaign | Full Member+ | Up to $100/week on: April 08, 2024, 10:39:28 PM
I'm surprised there are so many "off-topic" posts LOL
I know your concern, I can still tolerate this case, but it won't happen again in the future
be carefully
Thank you.  Smiley

By the way, I have received the week 101 payment.
234  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has BTC really become more attractive than gold? on: April 08, 2024, 09:53:49 PM
Furthermore for me, I would prefer to amass Bitcoin to hold it for extended periods of time than invest in gold, which I didn't have even a single concept about. Even in terms of security, Bitcoin is more assured than gold.
I don't also have gold but I want to have it soon. I might just allocate some of the profits that I'll be getting with Bitcoin and then will buy it but that's still tentative.

But for now, I also want to have more Bitcoin instead of gold. It's very easy to keep and no one will even know that you have already purchased one until words come out of your mouth.

And only the exchanges where you've bought it if you ever have passed on their kyc.
235  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in casinos: Still a thing? on: April 08, 2024, 08:53:08 PM
Bitcoin is a high risk investment, it's volatile, if OP is patient enough to hold his bitcoin for a long term, then there's a high probability that he will be profitable.
Bitcoin is certainly profitable compared to any other investment, the ratio of being high risk gives a high potential reward. But the description of it as a high-risk investment doesn't seem to be scary anymore nowadays.

As it has become the safe haven of investing in the crypto market, that's why if someone is holding Bitcoin or suggesting to buy it. We're all doing that because someone who doesn't have a long experience with it is on a safer investment.

There is no doubt if holding it for the long term, it's not just all about probability but certainly he's going to profit if the basis is going to be with his historical charts.

I think we cannot compare investing in a casino to investing in bitcoin that way.

If there's actually casino who accepts bitcoin as investment, it is more profitable that investing in bitcoin alone due to the major reasons that while its value increases, the number of bitcoins you are holding will also grow in the long run as certainly casinos are so profitable.
But the performance of the casino is what the profitability of the investors are. It's not always that good although in the long run, investors of casinos and the casinos themselves are always the winners.

The same with Bitcoin but if BTC is the one that you'll use for investing on them. You have to understand that you're totally losing your custody to it because you're depositing on BTC and once you've sent it already, you have no control over it.

So that answers the question that investing in casinos are more profitable than investing in bitcoin.
There were discussions that says that investing on them are no longer the same as profitable as BTC. But in my experience since I haven't invested on any of them, holding BTC is way more profitable.
236  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in casinos: Still a thing? on: April 08, 2024, 12:31:59 PM
Bitcoin is a high risk investment, it's volatile, if OP is patient enough to hold his bitcoin for a long term, then there's a high probability that he will be profitable.
Bitcoin is certainly profitable compared to any other investment, the ratio of being high risk gives a high potential reward. But the description of it as a high-risk investment doesn't seem to be scary anymore nowadays.

As it has become the safe haven of investing in the crypto market, that's why if someone is holding Bitcoin or suggesting to buy it. We're all doing that because someone who doesn't have a long experience with it is on a safer investment.

There is no doubt if holding it for the long term, it's not just all about probability but certainly he's going to profit if the basis is going to be with his historical charts.
237  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How safe is saving screenshots of useful information and BTC transactions? on: April 08, 2024, 10:15:25 AM
If they're just transactions, I think that's fine as most people that do transactions are keeping a copy for themselves and that's how easy it is to do.

But, one thing is your concern about the phone falling into the hands of the wrong person when someone oversees it and starts to think of a bad plan because that person might think that your friend has got a lot of money.

That's why for me, it's best to keep these transactions private and never show it to anyone and don't show anything that might give them a motivation to do something bad.
238  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Quick way to learn bitcoin trading on: April 07, 2024, 11:45:36 PM
I don't advise newbie traders to go in a way to "quickly" learn to trade. Don't do so, there's no shortcut to learning. There could be fast track way of learning but it will not be worth it because you'll still go through with the conventional way of learning how to trade including the experience that you'll have with it.

Start out with the theoretical way through reading those academies or books about the basic but the process of learning is much with the actual process of doing it.

There's no shortcut with that, you can shortcut the theoretical and reading but when you get into trading, if you wanna do the shortcut then you're more prone to losing.
239  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Devin Haney vs Ryan Garcia on April 20 on: April 07, 2024, 09:57:40 PM
Won't there be any problem when it's said that Ryan is addicted to gambling and while this match is about to come, win or lose there will be a share that will go to him. Like being taken cared of for the affairs of boxers like him because we've seen a lot of them go professional and then become broke after their retirement.

But anyway, this isn't the affairs we're having on this thread but about the few weeks left as this match is 2 weeks away for it to happen.
Fight is getting closer and he has to really focus, gambling addiction is not problem but this can have bad impact on the fight because gambling addiction can make him experience mental problems.
If it only about money then whether he wins or loses he will still get share of the payment for the fight against Devin Haney, but this is not about money or bankruptcy after retirement but about his career as boxer.
Ryan Garcia is still young and he is boxer who has very good potential in the long term, mental health must be really taken care of, especially before he made everyone think he was crazy because of his unreasonable attitude.

Previously he had an undefeated record, but when he faced Gervonta Davis, who is also boxer with the same undefeated record, Ryan lost his record because he lost by knockout in the seventh round.
If in the next fight against Devin Haney he experiences mental problems and is not focused on the fight, then it is possible that Devin Haney could cause Ryan to suffer second defeat.
Devin Haney himself has never experienced defeat and has the undisputed champion title, so this is tough fight for Ryan, considering that his current condition is really not what it was before he lost to Gervonta Davis.
This might not affect him this time as the fight is already scheduled but this could affect his future matches and career itself. Because of addiction, it's a serious thing that a professional athlete that can ever get involved.

Other boxers might not choose him even if the fans want them to fight because there can be some thoughts that it's going to be not a serious fight and it can all be bought and sold as they box. Well, the typical known and selling out of fight but I am not saying that he's going to do it but the possibility is there but not yet and hoping that it won't happen.

Won't there be any problem when it's said that Ryan is addicted to gambling and while this match is about to come, win or lose there will be a share that will go to him. Like being taken cared of for the affairs of boxers like him because we've seen a lot of them go professional and then become broke after their retirement.

But anyway, this isn't the affairs we're having on this thread but about the few weeks left as this match is 2 weeks away for it to happen.
I heard him say in one press conference that it's a huge responsibility that at a very young age he already making $10 million, Ryan is not matured enough to handle big things, this is why we see an emotional breakdown and a shift of characters, the load is too much for this young guy.

And because of this Haney thinks its an easy fight for him he is unbothered by Ryan's behavior
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“Ryan is just another opponent for me. I feel like I’m in competition with greatness,” said Haney. “That’s why I train so hard, and that’s why I work so hard. Even if my opponent isn’t focused. I don’t know if he is or he isn’t. That’s not for us to focus on. I still put my all into getting better and better.”

Source: Devin Haney Embraces Light Welterweight, Dismisses Ryan's Antics - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/04/devin-haney-embraces-light-welterweight-dismisses-ryans-antics/)

There's a big contrast between these two, Haney is very relaxed and confident while Ryan is like a kid who wants people to know how great he is, so obviously we know who will win in this fight.
I may not have that $10M right now but for a kid that can earn that much at a young age sure is a lot and he can confidently spend that to anything or any activities like gambling them all along.

So, if he's having some emotional breakdown. Let it all set on the floor of the ring and let the people that doubts him just show his talent and then take care of the rest when the fight's done.
240  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: April 07, 2024, 08:59:41 PM
Ahh I see I thought I was doing something wrong ha.

Nah all good man, I spent about .50 btc on ads ages ago and it'd paid off
Nah but big thanks bro, all of those ads spent have been worth it definitely.

To do that we would have to take the site offline for many hours to implement. Maybe if we have some other necessity to take the site down we could do it at the same time but we don't want to have an outage just for that."

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320959.msg52973892#msg52973892
There should be a big notice with that but I think the devs will do it with the convenience of their customers and won't choose this as necessary. Anyway, with some concerns out there I hope that they'll all be resolved.
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