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221  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 13, 2016, 09:46:49 AM
Sorry for the noob question again but what is ICNX

This is the new investment tool right? So if we buy this we get payments from this from the investing. Then we get additional dividends from the ICN?



https://ico.iconomi.net/about-icnx-index


THANKS!!! so holding ICNX is basically the same as buying a small amount of the mentioned currencies right?


This is interesting indeed if I am right?
222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 13, 2016, 09:42:59 AM
Sorry for the noob question again but what is ICNX

This is the new investment tool right? So if we buy this we get payments from this from the investing. Then we get additional dividends from the ICN?



Interesting....legendary member....

then proceeded to check your trust level and saw all the recent feedback in red.....

conclusion: legendary "bought" account....

Nope I have had this account since the beginning Smiley

ps its only accussations right now anyway,.

223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 13, 2016, 09:11:28 AM
Sorry for the noob question again but what is ICNX

This is the new investment tool right? So if we buy this we get payments from this from the investing. Then we get additional dividends from the ICN?

224  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Gravitate selling "FUNDED" coins that are NOT FUNDED on: December 13, 2016, 08:44:31 AM
Hi Vod,
I would like to explain a little more about the situation and illustrate it in an easier way to understand.
Here is an illustration of the series of coins I made. Basically bitenvy was sent RR1 set rather than RR3 set.



One thing I didn’t make clear was how you would tell the difference between the 3 sets. The way you can is by the text on the back of the coin. The text is exactly how illustrated above. Im the original thread I changed the color of the coins for sale to illustrate this and also I replied with this:



I would now like to analyse existing evidence that I have not tried to scam anyone and that this is just a mistake. I sold Series 1 coins to MinerJones and basically they didnt turn up, I refunded him and by accident sent them to bitenvy instead of the RR3 set.


EVIDENCE 1
MinerJones bought and paid for the RR1 pair. He did not receive them and I refunded him thinking I lost the coins. Proof is here:



EVIDENCE 2
I released the public kets of the RR3 pair which are here



Srr3
1QJANSJ8whtrwLuHVyi3dpUdTwczrvamUm
Brr3
1CaUkQTaUjDF58qo2fP3PTTV2yApQiBBah
You can see they are still both funded.

EVIDENCE 3

The coin that was received and opened by digicoinuser was not part of the released public keys
Actual public key was:
Private key is:  L1oEBAxDPAHLKoexoJuGfNMoM7Bwttvc7Tnz4BYWYTWss6kNvGAc and MATCHING public key is:  1iWE27m4WYDX4hZeyHSKPAuN4mcnKKLEJ

This is not listed in this release:



EVIDENCE 4

You can see here that I have taken a photo of (on the original for sale thread) #5 S RR – please note that this is in exactly the same format as the coin that digicoinuser found. It is not likely to be part of another series because if it was there would be zero way to identify between the coins. For a coin maker that’s not just a stupid mistake it’s a ridiculously stupid mistake.


EVIDENCE 5

Here are the REAL RRS3 coins that are still funded.

http://imgur.com/Auh4DKc

http://imgur.com/lGtutXi


http://imgur.com/6dmcqab

I would now like to ask who has been detrimentally effected here and what makes this a scam? It is my understanding someone must have lost monies to be scammed. But I will leave that up to your judgment.

Bitenvy – had a slight problem with the release of the escrow. Was not called a scammer. Has not lost any money or bitcoin.
Digicoinuser - had a slight problem with the release of the escrow. Was refunded the Bitcoin value
Chronisky – I will honour the value of the Bitcoin that he expected to be loaded on the coin.
MinerJones- Bought the coins bitenvy received accidentally. MJ was refunded the full purchase price.


I would like to apologies for this mistake of sending the coins out. Also as for peeling the Real SRR3 set well I don’t have the facilities to do it. I have a CAT android phone and the camera is not that great so you wouldn’t be able to read the private key anyway.
What I propose to do if you still think this issome sort of scam are these:

1.   Let chronisky peel his coin and he will have this address #6 B RR                  
compressed                                                   bitcoin address
1EN66vah1crJktsJyFXskk9oFK2BkqyoTy          1KbvnJkYXRNntDyYh78YUMcG4Sd8mXNxd
2.   As I don’t have the facilities here I am more than prepared to ship the coins to someone else to do this. I suggest I ask someone a favour to do this.

Vod I will await your decision on the matter and I will do what ever you want to prove this isn’t a scam.

Thanks,
Regards,
225  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Gravitate selling "FUNDED" coins that are NOT FUNDED on: December 12, 2016, 09:59:00 AM
#6 B RR                 


compressed                  bitcoin address
1EN66vah1crJktsJyFXskk9oFK2BkqyoTy          1KbvnJkYXRNntDyYh78YUMcG4Sd8mXNxd


226  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Gravitate selling "FUNDED" coins that are NOT FUNDED on: December 11, 2016, 09:49:18 PM
My account on bitcointalk has been handed over to my legal team. They will get the information they need and when it has finished I will announce I have it back under my control.
227  Economy / Auctions / Re: [Auction]Crypto Imperator .999 Gold 1/2 Troy Oz 1 BTC Coins (10) on: December 11, 2016, 08:29:05 PM
Current High bids:

#1 - 1.5 BTC killyou72
#2 - 1.2 BTC greenplastic
#3 - 1.3 BTC comit
#4 - 1 BTC digicoinuser
#5 - 1 BTC monkeynuts
#6 - 1 BTC squall1066
#7 - 1.1 BTC ezeminer
#8 - 1.1 BTC Poloherb
#9 - 0 BTC
#10 - 1 BTC AT101ET


Only 1 day left!

Liad.Services has withdrawn his bid for coin #9

1.1 on #9 please!
228  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Gravitate selling "FUNDED" coins that are NOT FUNDED on: December 11, 2016, 08:23:13 PM
I didn't intend to fund these coin! I sent the wrong coins to him and I refunded the person who bought them from him  already.. I didn't lie.
Also I have made mistakes and ALWAYS sorted them out.  To get accused of this is illegal as it dents my character. I will be seeking legal action against bitenvy.

I made a mistake and I have offered to fix it. That's not scamming.
You didn't intend to fund my coins?  HAHA  You refunded someone else for their COIN SRR1 #6 NOT SRR3 #6!!!!  What the fuck are you spouting...  Does anyone else see a crack in his story???


As I said, I want proof that the coins you have "found in your office" 'all of the sudden' were really mine that were funded with 0.16BTC and 0.083BTC with the addresses posted above for SRR3 #6 and BRR3 #6.  But, for some reason you don't want to do this.  I wonder why.

'  What the fuck are you spouting...  ' and this is after ' You will now be labeled as a scammer!  ' - Can you not be a little more diplomatic about it please I am human the same as you?

Your story doesn't even make sense!  My coins WERE NOT SENT TO MINERJONES!  You are lying.  PERIOD!  If others don't see this, then I'm at a loss for words.

You don't make mistakes like this, you won't have accusations.  Simple as that.  Your coins represent you.  If there are errors, flaws, mistakes, it falls on you even if it is just one mistake.  And, it wasn't just one mistake! 

You dont even understand this whole thing. Your coins are with me now. the coins that were supposed to go to minerjones went to you.

You cant judge someone by their mistakes but you can judge someone by how they handle them. I am certainly having a hard time to not judge you by your mannerism.
229  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Gravitate selling "FUNDED" coins that are NOT FUNDED on: December 11, 2016, 07:31:14 PM
I didn't intend to fund these coin! I sent the wrong coins to him and I refunded the person who bought them from him  already.. I didn't lie.
Also I have made mistakes and ALWAYS sorted them out.  To get accused of this is illegal as it dents my character. I will be seeking legal action against bitenvy.

I made a mistake and I have offered to fix it. That's not scamming.
You didn't intend to fund my coins?  HAHA  You refunded someone else for their COIN SRR1 #6 NOT SRR3 #6!!!!  What the fuck are you spouting...  Does anyone else see a crack in his story???


As I said, I want proof that the coins you have "found in your office" 'all of the sudden' were really mine that were funded with 0.16BTC and 0.083BTC with the addresses posted above for SRR3 #6 and BRR3 #6.  But, for some reason you don't want to do this.  I wonder why.

'  What the fuck are you spouting...  ' and this is after ' You will now be labeled as a scammer!  ' - Can you not be a little more diplomatic about it please I am human the same as you?
230  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Gravitate selling "FUNDED" coins that are NOT FUNDED on: December 11, 2016, 07:23:54 PM
Another day, another shady coin creator. Nothing surprising here. I've given them a negative rating. Even if they repay you said amount, the rating should stay due to very shady behavior (IMO).

shady behaviour like what? I am in my late 30's with a professional job and with kids and everybody knows my full identity. I have everything to lose and nothing to gain by scamming people for 0.16BTC.


I have made a shit load of mistakes and I havent hidden them or walked away from them I have always sorted them out.

The problem with these false accusations are that it isn't just me who suffers it is everybody who has bought coins from me. all their coins will be worth less.

I just do not understand where honest mistake turns into scam and I dont see why moderators suddenly leave bad feedback on behalf of people. surely people can make their own judgement and leave there own feedback. I thought that is what makes this place fair.

Anyway I have used this forum for my hobby for 3 years and I have enjoyed most of it so I do appreciate that. I am just struggling to cope with the current accusations.

I understand the position you are in by trying to protect people from getitng scammed but to labe me as a scammer for me is very hurtful and not something I take lightly. I fought a long battle with my mistakes to maintain my reputation on here and to have this thrown away because of a false accusation does not make sense.


I didn't intend to fund these coin! I sent the wrong coins to him and I refunded the person who bought them from him  already.. I didn't lie.
Also I have made mistakes and ALWAYS sorted them out.  To get accused of this is illegal as it dents my character. I will be seeking legal action against bitenvy.

I made a mistake and I have offered to fix it. That's not scamming.
You didn't intend to fund my coins?  HAHA  You refunded someone else for their COIN SRR1 #6 NOT SRR3 #6!!!!  What the fuck are you spouting...  Does anyone else see a crack in his story???


As I said, I want proof that the coins you have "found in your office" 'all of the sudden' were really mine that were funded with 0.16BTC and 0.083BTC with the addresses posted above for SRR3 #6 and BRR3 #6.  But, for some reason you don't want to do this.  I wonder why.

If you wanrt absolute proof that I am not a scammer then me peeling the stickers is not enough. Who is to say that I dont make the coins tonight and then  video me opening the coin?

The only secure way is for me to state the address of the coin chronisky has and then he peels the coin. I can even tell you the winner of the 1st series. Again though this makes everyone else's participation in series on a bad mistake.




231  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Gravitate selling "FUNDED" coins that are NOT FUNDED on: December 11, 2016, 03:00:27 PM
Summary of what happened:
I purchased a set of Microsoul physical bitcoin funded coins.  But after selling one of them to another user, they redeemed it.  The private/public keys were not as described and the coin was NOT FUNDED).

Gravitate's Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=89189

Gravitate's Trust summary Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=89189

Amount Scammed:
0.243BTC

Payment Method:
Bitcoin

Details of the scam:

I have proof that the user Gravitate is selling "Funded" Microsoul coins that are NOT funded.  I had purchased two of his Microsoul Russian Roulette Series 3 coins.  One was a Silver 1oz Russian roulette series 3 coin #6 (SRR1) and one was a silver plated brass Russian roulette series 3 coin #6 (BRR3).  SRR1/BRR1 and SRR2/SRR2 were sold as lottery coins (non-funded).  SRR3 coins were sold as funded (non-lottery).  I was the only person who bought a SRR3 and BRR3 “funded” coin.  The SRR3 coins were (supposed to be) funded with 0.16BTC and the BRR3 coin was (supposed to be) funded with 0.083BTC.  I received the coins many months ago supplied with the public addresses of:  

http://blockr.io/address/info/1QJANSJ8whtrwLuHVyi3dpUdTwczrvamUm  (SRR3 #6 - 0.16BTC)
and
http://blockr.io/address/info/1CaUkQTaUjDF58qo2fP3PTTV2yApQiBBah (BRR3 #6 - 0.083BTC)

I recently sold both of these coins.  One was sold to Digicoinuser (SRR3) via escrow (OgNasty) and one to chronicsky (BRR3).  Digicoinuser redeemed the coin after receiving it and found that the private did not match the public key that gravitate provided originally and there were no funds when trying to sweep the private key to his wallet.  The ACTUAL public key of SRR3 #6 was 1iWE27m4WYDX4hZeyHSKPAuN4mcnKKLEJ which has 0BTC balance.  Digicoinuser supplied a video of the coin that he redeemed and I can vouch that it was my coin that he attempted to redeem.  My escrow funds were in limbo because I sold a “funded” coin that was not funded.  I was getting blamed for fraud in an innocent situation.  I, of course, did not know it was unfunded because I had trusted gravitate who created these coins with funding.  According to gravitate, my coins he sold to me were supposed to be labeled as ‘#6 SRR3’ and ‘#6 BRR3’ in RED text.  My coins were shipped with BLACK ‘#6 SRR3’ and #6 BRR3.  Nowhere on his sales page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1410698.0) does he state that my coins (SRR3/BRR3) were sold with RED text.  One of his pictures on the first page shows BRR3 #5 in BLACK text.  According to gravitate, he shipped my coins to MinerJones and they were lost.  Why would he ship MY coins to another user???  He did not.  He shipped MinerJones'  SRR1/BRR1 #6 coins.   But, later changed his story and said he shipped me the “wrong coins”.  Then he admitted to having a THIRD SET of coins that were supposed to be mine with red SRR3/BRR3 #6 text.   Shocked  Wow!!!



ONLY ONE OF THESE COINS WERE SOLD AND IT WAS MINE!
 He then has the audacity to blame me for even having this coin that I paid for DIRECTLY FROM HIM.  My coin was NEVER LOST as he surmises!  So, how is this my problem or issue?

I have asked for video proof that he still has the coins.  I want video proof of the peeling of my ‘real’ coins hologram and sweeping of the funds supposedly on these coin addresses above!  That will prove he has the coins and it was a mistake.  He refuses to do so.  Instead, he is offering these coins not to me but to Digicoinuser and chronicsky as a ‘peace offering’ and to make everyone except me happy.  How nice!   Lips sealed   Funding "mistake" is unacceptable when selling coins in a professional manner.

I have also had MANY other problems, delays/excuses with shipping, delays/excuses with funding coins, shipping my coins to other parties, etc.  I have had nothing but problems ordering from gravitate.  
 
How many more of his "funded" coins are unfunded?  I may find out if/when I redeem all of my coins.  I will take video recording of every redemption if I do and post them if I find any others that are not funded.  I really don’t want to have to do this because I bought these coins for collectible reasons.  But, all of my interactions, the excuses, the stories, the delays rub me the wrong way like with Coinographics.  I have been screwed over one time too many already.

All of the above can be verified with OgNasty and/or digicoinuser as they were fully involved in the discussion/sale of the SRR3 #6 coin.

One more thing I'd like to add.  Gravitate never finished the "Gold Digger" series (4 and 5) of coins he was supposed to release.  This should be another separate scam accusation in and of itself.  The final prize was for 5BTC for solving a puzzle that was required for you to buy ALL of the Series coins (1-5).  Series 4 and series 5 coins were never produced and will never be produced as gravitate says he is done making coins.  Hmm, I wonder why.    Lips sealed


This is a warning to everyone with Microsoul "funded" coins and any dealing with gravitate!  BEWARE!
The coins can no longer be trusted to be funded and any business dealings with gravitate are at your own risk!


Here are some other pictures to support my accusation:


"#6 SRR" BLACK TEXT (my coin sold to digicoinuser)


"#6 SRR" BLACK TEXT (Hologram peeled by Digicoinuser)


"#6 SRR" Private key


"#6 BRR" BLACK TEXT (my coin sold to chronicsky)


"#5 SRR" BLACK TEXT (not my coin)



Also for the gold digger series and the 5 bitcoin prize I have decided to finish the series after all but as the coins will be gold I will take a deposit for reserving one and will get them made when 10 people have reserved.
232  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Gravitate selling "FUNDED" coins that are NOT FUNDED on: December 11, 2016, 12:23:24 PM
I first bought coins off Gravitate 3 years ago and still love the original Microsoul coins, however there was the odd occasion where he took a long time to fund the coins. I think it started going down hill with the 2016 coins and there were too many series were produced in such a small time. You deserve a full refund and Microsoul needs to tie up these loose ends before retiring.

It is unacceptable how you've been treated, but I don't think demonising every coin manufacturer who slips up is the right way to handle the situation and could lead to further losses if their reputation is left in tatters. The situation with Microsoul has been known for a few months and it seems like he overstretched, but lying about funding is a definite issue.

I didn't intend to fund these coin! I sent the wrong coins to him and I refunded the person who bought them from him  already.. I didn't lie.
Also I have made mistakes and ALWAYS sorted them out.  To get accused of this is illegal as it dents my character. I will be seeking legal action against bitenvy.

I made a mistake and I have offered to fix it. That's not scamming.
233  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Gravitate selling "FUNDED" coins that are NOT FUNDED on: December 11, 2016, 11:19:08 AM
There were 3 series of coins made. SRR1, SRR2 and SRR3

Visibly the only difference was the colors in the window of the coin.  

SRR1 - black
SRR2-  Blue
SRR3 - Red

as seen from my original post:


SRR1
Silver Russian Roulette 1
Material: 999 fine Silver
Weight: 1 Troy Oz
Description- These coins will come in an air tight capsule. 5 coins will be loaded with 0 BTC and one lucky coin will be loaded with 1 BTC

Price will be 110 Pounds EACH tracked shipping included.

SOLD OUT


BRR1
Bronze Russian Roulette 1
Material: Bronze
Weight: N/A
Description- These coins will come in an air tight capsule. 5 coins will be loaded with 0 BTC and 1 coin will be loaded with 0.5 BTC


Price will be 50 Pounds EACH tracked shipping included.

SOLD OUT

SRR2
Silver Russian Roulette 1
Material: 999 fine Silver
Weight: 1 Troy Oz
Description- These coins will come in an air tight capsule. The BTC value per set will be 1 BTC which will be distributed by chance. Please note the distribution of 1 BTC is subject to change based on sales.

Price will be 110 Pounds EACH tracked shipping included.


SRR2
Bronze Russian Roulette 1
Material: Bronze
Weight: N/A
Description- These coins will come in an air tight capsule. The BTC value per set will be 0.5 BTC which will be distributed by chance. Please note the distribution of 0.5 BTC is subject to change based on sales.

Price will be 50 Pounds EACH tracked shipping included.


SRR3
Silver Russian Roulette 1
Material: 999 fine Silver
Weight: 1 Troy Oz
Description- These coins will come in an air tight capsule.

Price will be 110 Pounds EACH tracked shipping included. 0.16BTC on each Coin No Lottery


BRR3
Bronze Russian Roulette 1
Material: Bronze
Weight: N/A
Description- These coins will come in an air tight capsule.

Price will be 50 Pounds EACH tracked shipping included. 0.083 BTC will be loaded on each coin. No Lottery


Here are some photos of SRR2 and SRR3 you see the ONLY difference is the color in the sticker window (included are the ones I should have sent to bitenvy (the red color):

http://imgur.com/Auh4DKc

http://imgur.com/lGtutXi


http://imgur.com/6dmcqab



You can see the SRR1 that  we are dealing with are Black.




So basically I did not scam bitenvy I  sent him the wrong set of coins. The set of coins were supposed to go to Miner Jones. Anyway I Refunded MJ for these as I thought they were lost.. But now they have turned back up.

So these are the full public addresses of the coins I made:

SRR2
1 13ga6yFeEXP1n2HVpF6QsqQPu4rQD9N6D7
2 1GbX3Ru9yJeWi9cy8pTgbTuwzecNdruVhC
3 1BndXxv2FwTYv9dGCqPmy3xPPMvsGcAoMn
4 1NW3oFtXfaDjmse1T8YojCJJDG9JaszkEK
5 175oJK95thsNC9M7MESZe61EVR3hdpCvm4
6 1PrVHHqo1586Qq5zkF8JAtnqiY4FGUrkfL

BRR2
1 1L23rbiQLy45u6eAGbqYKLmzGM5nHrsZnt
2 1Evp7XHXdKLCghDn4KTKwkyGnndwDYJJwc
3 1CYMTmg9G4sGbhZd7Yy5q9XnZG2YvbpzEF
4 1cvmiULBAhw7wgmfPkGsXsf6CTDZ8aH7a
5 1LDJCo2PmU9zzsChtQVP2hy2rKUU6gy3yK
 6 1AqpQpgcWY51Lenwjykm47ywcg6S8giaUM

SRR3

1 1JvDE7CcWBu8onfk3ueN69X5dVvMJfdAEf
2 1u3WumNCsQaJDVGKqmHgBDNKULGSjtwNQ
3 1J6YN8ztiCNPvBmw64Pp9h5MihzYFimx7o
4 1MMrLrgttFTBGyUw6MnKLNNPmpF6oSgz2E
5 1Dm7JKigEYmtMFWQufwqZXMY2ZZxPXXhtL
6 1QJANSJ8whtrwLuHVyi3dpUdTwczrvamUm


BRR3


1 1NWwiqd3wbvrmC9nKxfrVy3k82DjHb3pPr
2 1MwGfQHJ2ntidJwfCk4t2Ws3mubg3VtSxu
3 1KxZSDLPFfr8znzrDTqf5b4Z1LtJYrVy3p
4 115E53BvWg8J9vjKktpwYyQt7Ro9pk9ewj
5 12QU3LFBGTpg7YZC5rHp3F1Vk3madgpAWq
6 1CaUkQTaUjDF58qo2fP3PTTV2yApQiBBah



I never made SRR1 or BRR1 public becasue from the order then people will be able to see who has won. I can release the public keys and even name the winner if neccessary but I dont think the coin holders would be happy.


What I could do to PROVE it is release the public key of chronisky's BRR1 and then if I am correct this scam accusation is void.

But I am open to suggestions if we can also take into account minimal damage to the other coin holders of SRR1 and BRR1.

Thanks for your consideration and sorry about this mess. It is my fault I sent bitenvy the wrong set of coins. But I did not try scam anyone.


234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 10, 2016, 03:28:46 PM
Everyone who invested in ICONOMI during the ICO got some profit now  Wink Let's stay positive here Smiley I hope all trolls die, right now..  Grin


Omg sold at 0.000251 and now its 26x.

Hope it will drop a little bit <3

Mate we will see a 50 times fromt he ICO price.. Still plenty of time to buy back in Smiley

This is gonna be the coin of the century I think.
235  Economy / Services / Re: Signature Campaign Manager on: December 09, 2016, 10:02:53 PM
Hi can I apply for this job?My rank is low but you didn't set any minimum rank criteria to apply so I am trying my luck lol
Hey Lutpin is going to do it. If it falls through I will be contacting people but its set to start by Lutpin in January. Thanks for the interest.
236  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 08, 2016, 10:33:06 AM
No matter what people says ICONOMI going to be big !


I think that same, people will big it Cheesy

If ICN succeeds in what it has set out to accomplish it belongs up around ETH and LTC.

fully agree and I am confident they will. I have been following some hot traders lately and seen what they can accomplish.
237  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 08, 2016, 09:25:52 AM
the price of ICN 0.000234 now
I am sure in the next years 2017 will be rise 50k satoshi. Goo..goo.. ICN.

Price have very high potential to explode any time if we look deeply than there is clear exist. Some whales are still buying there silently and will go to the moon. Near Christmas will move to 50k.
It depends on the dividend payouts but very very possible if they nailing the investments which some traders can Smiley
238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 07, 2016, 08:27:47 PM
its like every other coin people. These quiet periods early on are a good chance to fill your boots... this is the real deal. This will be just as good as ETH. I am keeping my bitcoin in this at the moment worry free.
239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 07, 2016, 08:00:45 PM
Honestly ... if I see dividends now .. its time to sell in the pump .. its clear that they will use money they raised during ICO to pay "dividends"

If I was them I would buy all ICONOMI cheap and then pay some dividends to get it PUMPED then dump the cheap ones LOL

IT would work too hahaha
240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 07, 2016, 07:57:53 PM
question please. If I hold my tokens on an exchange what happens to the dividends? Also when will they start paying please? Great coin this is and one I put all my spare BTC into.
Regards, Gravy

I expected more from a Legendary user to be honest. Come here and ask about dividends for the 9000th time. Sorry, but you should know it better. No hat just sayin.
Lol sorry I just dont have time reading through the whole thing. also it keeps the thread alive chill out.

Question back to yourself. Why would you leave your ICN (or any crypto for that matter) on exchanges? Unless you daytrade, which is great, but if your holding ICN for dividends then you clearly aren't. You are putting all of your trust into the exchange. We have seen yesterday that with very limited information hackers were able to steal over $300,000 worth of crypto and dump to market on exchanges... bla bla i could carry on waffling. My point is, transferring your ICN to myetherwallet is the only truly secure way of holding ICN and also getting paid dividends. YOU own your private key, keep it safe and don't leave yourself open to attack!

Yeah I will transfer... Do we get paid dividends if we keep in ICO wallet? Becasue most of mine are still there.
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