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221  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 23, 2021, 03:53:05 PM

No trading today? shorting any shitcoin of your choice would have returned you 20%.
Still everyone deserves a day off for recreation.

that's not how i do things you kind sir even if my gut feelings are well condtionned and trained like a raw/primitive weapon straight from prehistoric era that can answer any universal questions, well...

I don't trade on guesses that's how you lost i trade on heavy moves  Wink

oh and you did seem to worry about my physical condition and mental conditions the other day, see i have a lot of hobbies, i jog, do some kayak/fishing, long swim in cold sea, i also play guitar and sing, and made a ton songs on cubase

Also i'm fit af even in my 40s, no dad bob for me.

See it's not all about work Smiley

I hope you reassured kind polite internet person Smiley

Dang i'm such a dick sorry guys  Cheesy

So glad you have a well balanced life and you are in good shape physically,

You do come across as a complete dick, your words, not mine.
222  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 23, 2021, 03:11:25 PM
word on the streets says RAJA bought back at 32k


News from Hussain Street, Lahore certainly spreads quickly.

No trading today? shorting any shitcoin of your choice would have returned you 20%.
Still everyone deserves a day off for recreation.
223  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 22, 2021, 06:50:21 PM
The good thing about the latest crash: The n00bs that thought there is a faster way to get richer with shitcoins now learned the lesson the hard way: Bitcoin will recover soon, while shitcoins will tank further. May be after 3-5 years some shitcoin will recover, but 99% chances are that your shitcoin won't. This is the newest harvest of shitbagholders. The same applies for the BTC/fiat trend followers. Let me tell your problem, morons. You value fiat way too much, so you prefer to sell screaming like little girls just to "save" 5% of your fiat. And then you are going to lose even that by trading shitcoins. The true BTC hodlers value BTC way more than fiat, so they will never sell everything. This is the biggest mistake one can do. The right question is what exactly you will achieve by selling the last 10% of your stash? If you plan to buy back lower will it matter so much? This is insanity! Some cunt here (I forgot his nick) boasted he sold everything at 50K. That means he bited his nails for 4 months while the price was at 60K+. Now he is gloating that the price is lower, but he is not buying back because he believes the price will fall to a certain number. This number will get lower and lower with the time in his greedy mind, until the price shoots up beyond 50K and that guy remains with the rusty pipe. And while we will celebrate 100K, 500K, 1mil, etc., he will slowly turn into the next mindurst, r0ach and proudhon. Nobody can bear such pain in the soul and remain sane.

Excellent post.
The guy was Raja, who hails from Pakistan, whose official inflation rate is currently 11% and rising.
Good luck to him being all in with the Pakistani Rupee.
224  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 22, 2021, 06:22:01 PM
JJG at least i don't have to suffer the trauma of multi-years bear markets  Wink

And it depends at how high you aim, i don't need that much to live.

And it's easy to talk for people who bought at let's say 600 dollars or even less than new blood coming in at 30k, the pain is not the same Wink And it makes u arrogant towards the weak hands who bought high and panic sell  Wink

Last pump buy at 20k it will go 100k !!!! wow even the cleaning lady is buyin' we go go mainstream ! then crack 3k imagine the years of depression for some who listenened to the fanatics of this thread.  The cult i should say.

Cheers

You are indeed lucky enough.
To still be in the game, day trading after 5 or 6 years, pulling out a regular $500 day takes both skill and luck.
Most, 99% people fold after losing all their stake in this time frame, placing you in the top 1%.
So the less skilled folk do best by simply buying and Hodling.
Warren Buffet recommends buy good solid stock in a company that produces something and hold (for decades!).
Time in the market rather than timing the market.
I only know of one person who is an employed stock trader. They tell me at least two out of every three trades makes a loss, and these guys have a huge team of professional people behind them doing analysis to identify under-priced stock, latest news feeds, Bloomberg terminal etc.
So on your own I don't see how you can 'always be winning' as you put it, but can believe your APPT is positive.


Great that you are free from the obligation of standard work.
But spending all your time in front of a monitor watching the the market is not good for your health either mentally or physically.
Work that you enjoy doing is not work at all, I enjoy my work growing produce to feed you lot.
Running your own business, being self reliant, dealing with day to day problems and people, where the buck stops with you, is just great.
I would be bored to death otherwise, in the quieter months is vacation time.
For the sake of your health try to do both, trading plus set up a business that uses a skill you have.
You will likely make a lot more than $500 day when its up and running.

To the people who bought in at $600 or less, they too would have had their moments of gut churning on those flash crashes.
And those same people now where their investment runs to paper $millions must also still get a little depressed when their investment measured in $ drops 50%.

As to the cleaning lady and "crack 3k for years imagine the depression, who listened to the fanatics on this thread or cult" as you say, she would also know from listening to "the cult" that at 3k its time to buy that fucking dip every week with any spare cash you have and HODL.
Long term BTC is the best deposit account you can ever have.


225  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 21, 2021, 07:55:13 PM

China is a plague they changed the world for the worst, that harmless virus is a pretext to change the whole world and put liberticidal laws everywhere and global social monitoring. We'll all be chinese soon.


... whatever else you're on about you've nailed it on this, chinese commies are worse than the nazis because they studied Sun Tzu and Confucius

... there is little doubt now that SARS-CoV2 is a genetically-engineered chimera from a chinese lab, whether it's release is intentional or not is currently unknown, I'm at 50-50 chance either way, the West is basically clueless that they are subject to a biowarfare attack and banned from speaking about it! .... and the billions spent on surveillance and intelligence has nothing useful to add, uh-huh, what a useless bunch of porn-watching nose-picking gubmint tossers

... now why are there so many 'variants' in this virus? Are these new releases from the chinese labs? Largely the virus was stable to begin with ( until the vaccines were in production) but now appears to be mutating rapidly. Is it perhaps due to the genetic engineering of the spike protein making that area of the DNA molecule unnaturally unstable and prone to rapid mutations? Has humanity opened Pandora's box by releasing genetically-engineered human-targeted viruses?


I have thought everything you've posted above from day 1 the virus became common knowledge in the west.
The virus probably escaped by accident, like a previous SARS variant, this even after US gave them $millions to make The Wuhan Institute of Virology more bio secure.

China not content with fucking up the world, now we have China Bans Bitcoin variant No 2. With possibly China Bans Bitcoin  variant No 3 in the form of large dump FUD.

Its beer o'clock after a hard days work.
226  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 21, 2021, 10:08:19 AM
Good range of posts with minor bickering letting off some stress.
Raja now a no coiner and with inflation in Pakistan running at 11% whats to do?

Nothing has changed with BTC, plans for increasing infrastructure ATMs new mining equipment new investment Taproot all still intact.
My initial investment up 100X only fortyfuckingthoudsanddollars per coin now. Let me weep.
My BTC Optimism level unchanged at 100%

Sunrise in a few minutes, coffee finished long day ahead treating crops, 5mph wind, all set good.

Happy days!



227  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 19, 2021, 05:25:03 PM
This up-going you're talking about is just noise on the way down. I told ya'll. $20k before the year is out. And every year after this one will just get worse and worse. This horse is dead.
I'm curious how many other specialized forums you visit, just to complain about the thing the forum is about. Seriously, if you don't like something, nobody cares!
Unless you're a paid troll or have some other agenda. Either way, Bitcoin doesn't care about you. Being on my Ignore list means you're in bad company.


Putting Proudhon on ignore means you'll miss out on part of the wide variety of entertainment available on this forum.

Unignore him at once he is an essential part of WO.
228  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 19, 2021, 05:17:28 PM
Bitcoins going down and I don't think I'd put any money in to Bitcoin right now. Instead I would put all in ETH, ADA and Matic this is how I survive in this red. will see you later once I feel positive about BTC.

When is the right time to put money in to Bitcoin?

Now sub $50k  Or later at $much higher price.

Real answer is anytime.

Your best bet is to play safe and put it all into your national currency sit on it for 10 years and watch it's purchasing power rot away.


If Bitcoin does end in a bloodbath the blood will be shallow compared to your investment in the Alts.



So mrjoy how did your strategy work out with your divestment into shitcoins during sais event.

229  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 19, 2021, 05:05:15 PM
That's lunch over back to work.

Checked price, same as it was when I left for work at 6.00. Phew!

I see there's been quite a bit of action in between time.

If in doubt HODL! There must be a few rekt new bitcoiners, now thinking to buy back higher.

Now the manipulators will attend to wrecking the shorts.

89k June 21st.

Keep smiling and no dark thoughts.
230  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 19, 2021, 10:01:21 AM
Dump, Dump, dump your Bitcoins
Gently down the stream
Merrily merrily, merrily, merrily
You're an imbecile to sell, so it seems


Yes B Bunny we will have none of your English jokes here.
Truly a bit of a light humor is needed after last nights turbulent activity.
Just getting light as I get my coffee will soon be awake.
So good dump volume into 39k. 38% ish down from ATH
touching 200MA
Media out of FUD
Little girls here out of tears.
Proudhon happy and vindicated.
Time for reversal.
Ive got a long day ahead.
In fact I'd have to do over 3000 more long days to recoup the BTC unrealized gains from 64k to 39k if I sold now.

Soon time for pictures of bottoms and the old question asked here "who sold at the bottom?"




  
231  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 18, 2021, 02:51:47 PM
China Ban Bitcoin (again) for the 576th time.

End of Bitcoin, all crypto and the USD.

Proudhon most pleased.
232  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2021, 10:12:28 PM
Good to see buyers getting some bargain coins in the sale.

All thanks must go to Felon Musk.

Was that the end of the correction at $43k? or are there yet more coins to be shaken out down to $39k

No doubt a few pictures of some nice double bottoms will follow to confirm.

Eager to see how the derivative buyers will react when markets open in a few hours.

Odd you should say that I was just looking at Nasdaq pre market prices to get some indication of sentiment.
TSLA up 3.6%
COIN down 2.54%
233  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2021, 09:55:08 PM
Good to see buyers getting some bargain coins in the sale.

All thanks must go to Felon Musk.

Was that the end of the correction at $43k? or are there yet more coins to be shaken out down to $39k

No doubt a few pictures of some nice double bottoms will follow to confirm.



234  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2021, 08:36:35 PM
This is getting ugly, when’s it going to stop  Cry

$43k?

If that breaks

38% below ATH so $39k ?

If that breaks then we are in Proudhon territory at $24,472 or 66% below ATH and Proudhon takes the El duderino prize and we all get to bow down to Proudhon.

Fear index at Max = Strong Buy

Those are all possible, but I have a hard time giving very great odds to something like $24,472 playing out by June 21.. so sure we could have some ups and downs along the way and gosh grinding down to $24,472 in a bit over a month would be painful and likely shake a lot of weak hands.  

Yes very great odds down to 24,472, I fully expect it to bounce of either $39k a 38% drop from ATH a regular occurrence in the world of bitcoin or maybe $43k will see enough resistance to satisfy the bears that there are no more coins to be shaken out. But what the fuck do I know? It is best to be prepared for all scenarios.
235  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2021, 08:12:29 PM
Last quarter Tesla sold more than $500 million worth of carbon credits.
~
Enter Bitcoin miners, Elon Musk trashes Bitcoin for its energy use, at the same time promoting Dogshitcoin, helping Bitcoin price to fall. Then offers to solve the problem by offering to sell Bitcoin miners the spare carbon credits.
Wait, did he really try to sell carbon credits to Bitcoin miners?

If Tesla gets paid to sell carbon credits, doesn't that make them liable for the actual emission?
Let's see how much carbon credit costs: Opisnet:
Quote
The auction settled at $17.80/mt
Let's assume this is a reasonable estimate for the price. If Tesla sold more than half a billion dollars worth of credits, that means Tesla "covered" 28 million tonnes of emissions in just 3 months. Tesla only sold 185,000 cars during this time. Does that mean they can sell 150 tonnes of carbon credits for each car they sell? Let's assume their average car drives 250,000 km during it's lifetime, that makes 600 grams CO2 per km, which is about 5 times the average emission of new cars in Europe.

So: is my math wrong? Or is Tesla liable for much more emissions than even the most inefficient gas cars or all of Bitcoin mining?

I don't know about the entire balance of Tesla's business. For example I know they have some solar power setup.
Also that when you drive a new car away from the dealership it already has around 60% of its lifetime carbon footprint already "baked in".

I have no idea if Musk approached any miners, it is just conjecture.
And they would probably as JayJuanGee says not give two shits.
 
236  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2021, 07:48:12 PM
Last quarter Tesla sold more than $500 million worth of carbon credits.
Tesla will miss out on $240 million in revenue this year after European car giant Stellantis (a merger between Fiat Chrysler and the French-based PSA Group) revealed it would need far fewer credits to meet European Union emissions regulations than it initially thought.
This loss is assuming Tesla can’t find another customer for the carbon credits.

Enter Bitcoin miners, Elon Musk trashes Bitcoin for its energy use, at the same time promoting Dogshitcoin, helping Bitcoin price to fall. Then offers to solve the problem by offering to sell Bitcoin miners the spare carbon credits. With these, Bitcoin miners now producing a green coin, can fill OTC orders to institutional investors who can continue with plans to add Bitcoin to their balance sheets whilst meeting their Environmental, Social, and Corporate Governance (ESG) obligations.
The ESG is the single biggest barrier to entry for institutions.
Elon happy to keep a source of profit, strengthens TSLA stock.
Institutional investors happy to buy new non tainted environmentally clean bitcoin. Probably at a premium to cover miners increased costs.
Price starts rising again, everyone happy, except Proudhon of course!

I was cheering you on Farmer Bill, until you got to the point that Bitcoin miners are going to have any kind of meaningful incentive to playing  ball with carbon credit bullshit.  Sure there might be some bad faith miners that play that game, but I really doubt the vast majority of miners are going to give two shits or even less than that about bullshit ideas of carbon credit.

yeah, sure many of us realize that if BTC prices are at a premium, BTC miners probably give less than two shits about how much energy they are using, the kind of energy or how much it costs - as long as they are profitable - which seems to me that in recent times, there has been a lot of surplus in the profits of bitcoin miners.

Another thing that many of us recognize is that if (more likely when) profit margins in BTC mining turn more competitive, there are likely more incentives to search out cheaper energy sources, and BTC miners can be (and even have been) quite portable in that respect, which causes them to frequently seek out energy sources that might not otherwise be usable because of their distance from consumption sources or other inefficiencies that exist in regular markets and causing bitcoin mining to be amongst the most energy efficient of use cases, so the energy misinformation spreaders can fuck off with their opposite of true talking points that are attempting to mislead folks into nonsense theories like the one that you outlined above (no homo .. hahahahaha).

Thanks for your input, I postulated this idea with the intent of it being trashed.

Personally, I'm not on board with the (hidden) agenda that is being promoted as climate change, the crap about bitcoin mining and energy use that has been pushed into the consciousness of the general public through the MSM has been incessant. However I do know that potential institutional investors experience great difficulties getting Bitcoin onto their balance sheets in a squeaky clean way due to their legal departments insistence on adhering to the corporate governance stuff.

237  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2021, 07:20:09 PM
This is getting ugly, when’s it going to stop  Cry

$43k?

If that breaks

38% below ATH so $39k ?

If that breaks then we are in Proudhon territory at $24,472 or 66% below ATH and Proudhon takes the El duderino prize and we all get to bow down to Proudhon.

Fear index at Max = Strong Buy
238  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2021, 06:42:03 PM
Last quarter Tesla sold more than $500 million worth of carbon credits.
Tesla will miss out on $240 million in revenue this year after European car giant Stellantis (a merger between Fiat Chrysler and the French-based PSA Group) revealed it would need far fewer credits to meet European Union emissions regulations than it initially thought.
This loss is assuming Tesla can’t find another customer for the carbon credits.

Enter Bitcoin miners, Elon Musk trashes Bitcoin for its energy use, at the same time promoting Dogshitcoin, helping Bitcoin price to fall. Then offers to solve the problem by offering to sell Bitcoin miners the spare carbon credits. With these, Bitcoin miners now producing a green coin, can fill OTC orders to institutional investors who can continue with plans to add Bitcoin to their balance sheets whilst meeting their Environmental, Social, and Corporate Governance (ESG) obligations.
The ESG is the single biggest barrier to entry for institutions.
Elon happy to keep a source of profit, strengthens TSLA stock.
Institutional investors happy to buy new non tainted environmentally clean bitcoin. Probably at a premium to cover miners increased costs.
Price starts rising again, everyone happy, except Proudhon of course!
239  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2021, 11:56:03 AM

Excellent reply to "The Beggar". Ten bucks a week to secure your future, who would not do this.

The beggar may have to start selling their ass, if times are that desperate.

Bla bla bla bla bla, bla bla bla. Seems like they would like to get an Certain reaction out of me  Grin
Otherwise seems like something you would have no problem of doing.. and i sneezed really hard after thinking this then it must be true.  Grin (The ass selling part) Tongue Dont be offended just giving back what i am getting Tongue

Doesnt mean if i am asking for Bitcoins that there isnt something i could be giving back... It goes hand in hand, these things :3

Nobody is ever offended online.
I did not literally mean "sell your ass - in a sex worker sort of way" but to scrape around to put some $ together.
You know demean yourself, get a crap job, sell shit on ebay.
Perhaps you could ask your good friends in real life if they would care to give you $150k.
Or even $10
You'll soon find out who your real friends are.
240  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2021, 10:55:42 AM
Can i get a Bitcoin or Two? .. bc1qrswzqsh0wwql24x8l56r89n4hslapshcgpeern

Or three? Since 3 6 9 is the fundamental of Life.. so it would be cool to get the base of it Cheesy

ye ye i know i know.. beggar and all that stuff, but we need them   Smiley

Maybe i become a BTC Maxi who knows xD...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccJYLddo4YM

Everyone needs bitcoin you dumbass fuck.

You would have had a pretty decent stash of bitcoin (around 4.21BTC) right now, if you had invested a mere $10 per week into bitcoin rather than whining about MTGox or whatever it was that you were doing during that time instead of failing to actually act...

In any event, even if you did not start 7 years ago, you can start now, and probably 7 years down the road you will be in good shape.. better than begging a much more active rather than being a passive annoying dweeb.  Of course, increasing the amount contributed may well be good too, but each of us has our budget and our number that we can spare for such ongoing investment into the king.

Excellent reply to "The Beggar". Ten bucks a week to secure your future, who would not do this.

The beggar may have to start selling their ass, if times are that desperate.
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