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2201  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: June 04, 2014, 04:37:17 AM
I gotta be honest, I'd very much like the security of this coin be reviewed by an expert. Especially the cryptography and the algorythm.

I agree. It brings to coin more trust and legitimation as cryptocurrency.

Yes, I don't see why people get so upset when legit questions like that are raised... Those are no attacks but informational questions.
2202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: June 04, 2014, 04:33:40 AM
I gotta be honest, I'd very much like the security of this coin be reviewed by an expert. Especially the cryptography and the algorythm.


We got one already, their name is Qora.


Don't you remember the problems at the beginning of NXT, people losing coins, version after version coming out and coins stuck on Dgex? If you are concerned do as the developer says and don't trade. But I don't see how your every whim has to direct the early development of the coin jsut to satisy those who want to have no risk in a a project that is always going to be high risk at first. Sit on your coins and go trade something else for now.


I believe your kind of comments and similar attitude from others are potentially destroying the coin at this early stage.

I am qora holder and think qora is great, but please don't compare it to NXT.

NXT was never fully closed source with obfusicated source. BCNext did talk about his algo from the start and even told cfb everything and sent him the sourcecode to review it.

I don't even mind the trouble with forks at this moment, they are irrelevant in the long run.

What I care about is if the security is implemented correctly with this coin and not even qora knows that because a single person can and will always miss things. Even if he is the most genious person in the world.
2203  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: June 04, 2014, 04:28:32 AM
Now would be the perfect time for some commentary from emule.  Wonder what ever happened to him....

He sold at 0.00004 hehe

Oh, and BrianNowhere... I wonder if he's kicking himself yet, haha

Or lophie who said that NXTQuant was the worst thing that happend to NXT and panic sold all his NXT.
2204  Economy / Economics / Re: Worst bitcoin decision you've ever made? on: June 04, 2014, 04:24:56 AM
Not investing $2k when BTC was $2. Wife told me to go for it and I bought hardware instead.... Sad

Ok, but you made 100ish bitcoins still?

made 54 coins all up but spent them as I mined them on fuel, groceries, 1.5kW solar panel system, etc..

still have two of the GPUs, a Jally and adding some next gen hardware this week from the profits.

Did OK by turning $2K into ~$7K but it could have been $2K into $1M (buy $2K when $2/BTC for 1K BTCs then sell 1K BTCs @ $1K during peak for $1M)

Oh well...got some goodies out of it I suppose and now self renewing wallet / hardware

Still has to be your best investment lifetime in % wise over such a short period of time! Most people forget that, when they say things like "Only 500% return" Wink
2205  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: June 04, 2014, 04:21:36 AM
i wish i bought a stake for my gf i didn't realize you were able to do that till it was too late.

Feel free to buy a stake in the asset exchange.
2206  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: June 04, 2014, 04:20:33 AM
I gotta be honest, I'd very much like the security of this coin be reviewed by an expert. Especially the cryptography and the algorythm.
2207  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT Fly to the moon in 2014 on: June 04, 2014, 04:16:57 AM
Wake me when they get rid of Java, then I'll think about buying some.

It's a protocol, feel free to transcribe it to C/C++ Wink

Everything is opensource!
2208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: June 04, 2014, 04:05:05 AM
"all country coins would still be listed as someone (developer) owns them" ---> it should. (I should be corrected here - if the dev. are allowed to sell the premine then they are outstanding shares, otherwise they re not).  CMC should not list coin that has a sign of market manipulation but it is incorrect to not count the premine.

This was the main problem that country coins exploited to get on top of the list, even though 50 to 70 percent were not tradable and were "locked" for future release to a country.

Only stakes that are available for trade on asset exchanges should be counted to calculate market cap --

coinmarketcap will not make the same mistake as they did with country coin, artificially inflating the ranking.  I think he already learnt his lesson,


In the case of country, the coins are locked up for a purpose so they are not outstanding shares. In the case of NEM, no regular share is locked up. For example: any stakeholder can request a token and sell it tomorrow. It is real money and completely actionable. If NEM stake shoot up to 10.000$ tomorrow, I am sure the tokens will be running out pretty fast. It does not stop there. I am open to list else where as long as there are requests so ALL shares are actually tradable and sellable.

I did not talk with Gliss yet but you can bet that NEM will be listed in CMC before the official launch as long as he think maidsafe could be there.

How much do you want to bet? :p

Gliss also has the requirement that the trading must be on atleast one exchange with a good trackrecord and a good API. I don't think he will implement his own implementation for the AE just for one asset. So I wouldn't be so sure about getting listed Wink

Big enough so I can pay him to implement technicality.

Touchę!

But still I don't think the AE qualifies as an exchange with a proven trackrecored in his books. Also no coin build on XCP/RIPPLE ect is listed.

Nonetheless, will be nice to see some novelty Wink
2209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT Fly to the moon in 2014 on: June 04, 2014, 04:03:11 AM
it raised just because BTC raised...

No, it went from 0.00005 BTC to a todays high of 0.000108!
2210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: June 04, 2014, 04:00:15 AM
"all country coins would still be listed as someone (developer) owns them" ---> it should. (I should be corrected here - if the dev. are allowed to sell the premine then they are outstanding shares, otherwise they re not).  CMC should not list coin that has a sign of market manipulation but it is incorrect to not count the premine.

This was the main problem that country coins exploited to get on top of the list, even though 50 to 70 percent were not tradable and were "locked" for future release to a country.

Only stakes that are available for trade on asset exchanges should be counted to calculate market cap --

coinmarketcap will not make the same mistake as they did with country coin, artificially inflating the ranking.  I think he already learnt his lesson,


In the case of country, the coins are locked up for a purpose so they are not outstanding shares. In the case of NEM, no regular share is locked up. For example: any stakeholder can request a token and sell it tomorrow. It is real money and completely actionable. If NEM stake shoot up to 10.000$ tomorrow, I am sure the tokens will be running out pretty fast. It does not stop there. I am open to list else where as long as there are requests so ALL shares are actually tradable and sellable.

I did not talk with Gliss yet but you can bet that NEM will be listed in CMC before the official launch as long as he think maidsafe could be there.

How much do you want to bet? :p

Gliss also has the requirement that the trading must be on atleast one exchange with a good trackrecord and a good API. I don't think he will implement his own implementation for the AE just for one asset. So I wouldn't be so sure about getting listed Wink
2211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: List of Useless Alt Coins that have Wasted Our Time on: June 04, 2014, 03:58:21 AM
I propose changing the topic to "USEFUL alt coins that HAVEN'T wasted our time".

Ya know, just for sake of time and efficiency.

Haha true. There a literally just a handful of altcoin with innovation out there!
2212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: June 04, 2014, 03:47:39 AM
Now would be the perfect time for some commentary from emule.  Wonder what ever happened to him....

He sold at 0.00004 hehe
2213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: June 04, 2014, 02:31:48 AM
What ever happened to the listing NEM on CoinMarketCap?

Gliss doesn't list coins that are not yet launched afaik.

Maidsafe ?

yes, but it is a fully launched token.

If CMC lists NEM than only the amount of tokens that are currently floating around, so PRICE*300 (or how much it currently is).
2214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: June 04, 2014, 02:06:07 AM
What ever happened to the listing NEM on CoinMarketCap?

Gliss doesn't list coins that are not yet launched afaik.
2215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN]Millionaire Coin (MIL)-Merchant - *Poloniex* IPO > 20 BTC Invested on: June 04, 2014, 01:54:36 AM
Not much time left for the IPO to end! Invest now!


Are you guys sad that you fked up your launch so bad that even a coin that started their IPO 2 days later soldout 135 BTC within 24 hours while you only sold 20 BTC?

2216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEX :: Nxt Reimagined - Industrial Strength - Imagine Fairness! on: June 04, 2014, 01:50:33 AM
Stated in the OP:

Quote
NEX improves on Nxt by providing the following enhancements:

Block Chain stored in database.  Unlike Nxt,  NEX does not fail due to out of memory errors.
Secure Wallet.  Unlike Nxt,  NEX does not expose the wallet to the open internet.
Bitcoin like Addresses.  Unlike Nxt,  NEX adds checksums to addresses so some random number can't be confused as being a NEX address.
Multi Precision arithmetic.  Unlike Nxt,  NEX allows up to 8 decimal places. 


Those were your improvements over NXT. Now that all those improvements are already in place with NXT, what will be your improvement?
2217  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: June 04, 2014, 01:48:11 AM
I just got 1 NEM stake on the asset exchange for around 15K of NXT.

Was this a good price, or will they drop further?
I was advised to wait 4 days before buying or make a bid around 15K, which i did.

I think its going to take off when it launches, pretty exciting, of course im still more invested in NXT.

Nobody can tell you if the price will go up or down. But I can tell you that I bought a couple of stakes between 15k and 22k. So I think it is a very good price.
At the latest when the alpha comes out, you canīt get this prices anymore.

Can you buy a fraction of a stake?

yup minimum is 1/10 of a stake.. thats around 1600 - 1700 nxt now

It is so cheap!

Hmm. Define cheap. The price of 1 NEM stake is 1.6 BTC.

4000*1.6 BTC = 6600BTC market cap.

According to CMC that would place us instantly into the top 15 of all cryptocurrencies. This might be a cheap price once the client is stress tested and released but right now it seems to be a rather expensive price given the uncertainty!

Remember the original praticipation fee was 0-0.1 BTC only!

If NXT price keeps rising, we will see a 10000 NXT/stake price soon.

2218  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: June 04, 2014, 01:44:19 AM
Guys. Dooglus already said that he has a "fail-safe" in place!
2219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCM] Digital Commerce // MULTIPOOL LIVE Wallet Released 100% POS on: June 04, 2014, 01:42:56 AM
Love the multipool! I'm killing it with my.... wait for it, wait for it.... 340kh/s!! LOL  Here's to slow mining! Cheers!

Slow and steady wins the race Wink
2220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: June 04, 2014, 01:38:15 AM
All hail our NXT-OVERLORDS!

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