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2201  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 17, 2016, 03:35:34 PM

It's some pretty cold turkey.  Undecided

That's England, not Turkey.
2202  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 16, 2016, 05:48:23 PM
Satoshi contradicted himself on micropayments and scaling as well. Initially he was more bullish in terms of what Bitcoin could do but then became more realistic given the hardware/network constraints and network abuse that required more fees and block size limits. So depending the time-space coordinates you could take contradictory quotes even on the same issue.

If you can't see the difference between a change in position and the kind of contradiction presented, you're wanting to believe too hard.
2203  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: January 16, 2016, 12:59:10 AM



Cue "It's been an hour and I still don't have a confirmation" threads.

Cripes, if the halvening causes the hashrate to drop, we might see 0 block hours often. I don't think I handle that gracefully.
2204  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 16, 2016, 12:52:43 AM
100% full blocks now. It this the beginning of THE FULLBLOCALYPSE???

We'll be serving hors-d'ouvres and refreshments first. The bar will be open at intermission.
2205  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2016, 10:42:54 PM
I thought that bitcoin was a honey badger

That's exactly the point Cheesy
2206  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2016, 06:33:52 PM
Here's another nice one. It's how many times bigger than the transaction volume the block size limit is. I had to adjust the axis to make the recent detail visible as on the day that Satoshi implemented it, it was 710.



Does quite well as a logarithmic plot.




If anyone wants this data as a CSV or something, PM me cause it takes a while to extract from the blockchain.

Threw it up quickly here for anyone who doesn't want to wait

http://pastebin.com/NUbMdQ7t
2207  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2016, 06:22:40 PM
How is increasing to 2mb as bad as increasing supply past 21m?

It is called a instigating a "precedent": if you can manage it for one protocol parameter, you can do it for everything else.

Of course you could do it for anything else. Including all transaction being diverted to a single address. The question is about the will and incentives to do it and always will be.
2208  Economy / Speculation / Re: RE : Wall Observer on: January 15, 2016, 04:58:06 PM
the chinese panics were fun, but u guys really have taken this racism thing to new levels that i can't condone. .. i just cannot hate people just cuz they mine bitcoins. #sorrycharlie

Just to be clear, my tongue was firmly in cheek.

What the concentration of mining in China illustrates is the failures of a command economy. China provides electricity at a reduced cost (by drawing value from other parts of their economy) and the Chinese miners are taking advantage by sucking the value into their own coffers. It's all quite rational

The interesting thing is what happens next.
2209  Economy / Speculation / Re: RE : Wall Observer on: January 15, 2016, 04:47:02 PM
It's like asking turkeys to vote for Christmas

Logistical nightmare. The lack of an opposable thumb really limits your options.
2210  Economy / Speculation / Re: RE : Wall Observer on: January 15, 2016, 04:44:08 PM
wut Huh? we gotta do wut Huh "blockchain blacklists" Huh? ok everyone all chant at same time: "china must go" "we want blockchain blacklists"!  .... follow up with a give me a "WOOT WOOT" .

Clearly their influence is making Bitcoin too inscrutable. Possibly even more dangerous than centralization.



yes.. the evil chinese miners and their evil Huobi must GO! there is no choice, the evil chinese has forced us to implement "blockchain blacklists" . we're putting chinese miners on no-fly lists too.

No-no. That's for Nigerian scammers. Redlists for the Ruskies and yellowlists for the Asians.
2211  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2016, 04:41:25 PM
Next up, I think full blocks vs time and probably fees vs time.

Have you seen someone break down the fee/non-fee transaction distribution lately? I would think people are already starting to add extra fees. I know I am.

I'm pretty sure that non-fee transactions are all-but gone. That's why the mempool just grows and grows. There was no mechanism for expiring transactions though I believe that was added to Core in October (not sure if it's in the current stable release yet though). Core will no longer relay them by default and with blocks full on a regular basis, why would miners bother?
2212  Economy / Speculation / Re: RE : Wall Observer on: January 15, 2016, 04:26:46 PM
wut Huh? we gotta do wut Huh "blockchain blacklists" Huh? ok everyone all chant at same time: "china must go" "we want blockchain blacklists"!  .... follow up with a give me a "WOOT WOOT" .

Clearly their influence is making Bitcoin too inscrutable. Possibly even more dangerous than centralization.
2213  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2016, 04:16:24 PM
PS/ and fuck you richy and your miserable fud attempts.

I know, right? I ignore those little lights that come on on my dashboard too that tell me I need more oil or to replace the brakes and so forth also.

And fuck the blockchain for it's factual data. We should just replace it with hope & dreams instead.

2214  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2016, 04:14:57 PM
Next up, I think full blocks vs time and probably fees vs time.
2215  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2016, 04:02:48 PM
Just from interest, I ran this. The blue line is the free block space, the red line is when Satshi implemented the current block size limit.



Quote

Haven't had this one in a while...
2216  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2016, 02:55:28 PM
I think this drop is more about the global stock market selloff then Mike hearn.

Cheap stocks?
2217  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2016, 02:52:28 PM
And as I don't totally understand how it works and what's happening, I'm afraid of using it. And tempted to quit.

That's not an irrational position.

If you're buying bitcoins just to have some or to buy some drugs or whatever, you probably don't care much about how it works. If you're buying a bunch because you're a speculator, sure you should know about what's going on.
2218  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2016, 02:39:32 PM

100% filled block and price on the downside, not a good morning for me at the moment.
I need some coffee to wake up and analyze WTF happened tonight

Also note the subtext. We had one block found in an hour. It took *three* blocks after that for the backlog to clear. Then we had an hour with two blocks.

An artificially low block size limit means that backlogs won't clear quickly, no matter what fees are in use. The only answer is some stupid bidding war apparently.
2219  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2016, 06:57:10 AM





2220  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: January 15, 2016, 06:51:46 AM
i guess the collapse from the cryptsy led to this kind of the bitcoin price decrease. anyone? would you sell your bitcoin right now? it could be an effect of the bitcoin price, beware.
FYI regarding the cryptsy, there are some of the probable phishing site like cryptsy refund.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hearn's words had some effect either. Whatever you think of him and his opinions, he's a fairly major figure.
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