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2201  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Pamp Suisse Gold Bars 1 Gram, 5 Gram, 10 Gram, 20 Gram and 1 Troy Oz Coins! on: October 09, 2015, 02:34:26 PM
They are certified by Pamp. I can also give the certification numbers and you can call to verify their authenticity

That doesnt count for anything,  not hard to replicate legit bar packaging and serial numbers.

You will defo need to get the metal XRF checked before releasing funds.

Not saying these arent genuine but you would have to be insane to send a wad of non refundable to cash to a complete stranger for a product where its well known that fakes exist and are readily available

The fakes have also been sold here previously but the seller declared the fact up front
2202  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Pamp Suisse Gold Bars 1 Gram, 5 Gram, 10 Gram, 20 Gram and 1 Troy Oz Coins! on: October 09, 2015, 01:10:21 PM
Would defo use escrow until you can verify these are legit (get them XRF checked etc.)

No offense intended towards the op but Pamp fakes are everywhere thanks to China.
2203  Economy / Goods / Re: How I Stop Worrying And Love The Backpacks [2/20] on: October 04, 2015, 01:30:56 PM
You get my daughters thumbs up to these Smiley

How is shipping to the UK?
2204  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold Losing It's Shine? on: October 04, 2015, 09:10:04 AM
Well, the only thing gold had going for it was it was the best decentralized form of money we had until crypto.  It has absolutely shitty velocity and in modern day can't be used for anything.  Gold will die, sadly.  It has been good to us and it will always have value but it will not keep up with "inflation" in coming years.  It won't die all at once, but those who think they will see a massive rise in gold prices may find themselves with a nasty surprise: gold is nearly useless in the modern world.

And thats why Russia and China are buying it by the tonne every month and the gold/silver demand at the moment is so high its leading to premium spikes and shortages.  Other countries are fighting to get their gold repatriated but for some reason the US is unable to meet their demands (read it as they no longer have it as its sitting in a vault in China).

UBS are currently ratting out all the other bankers over Gold price fixing.

Gold will see all time highs by end 2016 or beginning of 2017.

Governments will probably launch their own versions of crypto in the future and will maintain control.  Bitcoin will banned and eventually die.

Money = power, currently Bitcoin is insignificant which is why governments haven't tried to crush it yet but why people here think that the bankers and governments will just hand over all that power via bitcoin without a fight are deluded.
2205  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: October 01, 2015, 12:32:43 PM
i rather keep gold, who know bitcoin in future is like $10 for 1btc  Grin just maybe

That can also happen, because nobody can control the market and the bitcoin price.
Gold is something that has been in the market for a long time and it's hard to crash its price.
With this trend i think that bitcoin will cost more in the next few years and if you hold form now a profit should be appear.

But hasnt it been proven that a bot controlled the bitcoin price during the last rise to its all time high?

2206  Economy / Economics / Re: The Real Story of Gold on: September 29, 2015, 08:09:57 PM
...

Miss Fortune

Gold is supposed to be expensive.  It always has been.

Gold is also "wealth dense", perhaps its best characteristic.  Of course, "wealth" is in the eye of the beholder, but for over 5000 years gold has held a lot of value in our eyes.

But, gold can EASILY be bought is amounts as little as 1/10th of an ounce.  Gold 1/10th Eagles are typically available at coin shops and would cost maybe $135.  And there are other options for 1/10th oz pieces (also French 10 Franc pieces at about 0.09 ounces -- slightly smaller, but slightly cheaper too).

If your stupid you can buy gold in amounts as small as 1 grain bars (0.06479891g)



When you work out the premiums involved it will bring a tear to your eye though Smiley

Best value for small pieces in the UK are either 1/2 sovereigns (3.66g fine weight) or full sovereigns (7.315g fine weight), both can be had for 3-4% over spot and are VAT and capital gains tax free.  Recognised world wide and are extremely liquid.  You also get a bit of history as many are hundred plus years old, my oldest one is dated 1858 so 157 years old.

You can also get the big boys, the quintuple sovereign (also known as the £5 coin) -

This is one of my quint sovereigns (about 1.2 troy oz fine weight) V a regular sovereign



2207  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: September 28, 2015, 08:13:22 PM
Gold is boring, no one is going to be rich during our lifetimes by holding Gold that's for sure. Now with Bitcoin, we have way bigger chances at becoming millionaires than we have by holding Gold. Similarly, there are bigger chances of seeing 1 BTC go to 1MM than it going to 0.

Strangely my view is the complete opposite.

Only time will tell as no one has a crystal ball Smiley

Really? Gold has already trillions in market cap.

If gold were to go up to 1 million $/ ounce then maybe, but that would imply quntillions of market cap...

Bitcoin has far better chance to get to 1 million $ than gold ounce.

Gold market cap is currently around $6.6 trillion.

Why not a market cap $66 trillion giving a $11k an oz price? or $660 trillion giving a $110k an oz price.

When you have printing presses creating never ending quantitative easing (US, China, EU) then you can eventually pick a number, double it and add a few zero's to price of gold.
2208  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: September 28, 2015, 03:31:18 PM
Gold is boring, no one is going to be rich during our lifetimes by holding Gold that's for sure. Now with Bitcoin, we have way bigger chances at becoming millionaires than we have by holding Gold. Similarly, there are bigger chances of seeing 1 BTC go to 1MM than it going to 0.

Strangely my view is the complete opposite.

Only time will tell as no one has a crystal ball Smiley
2209  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: turtlehurricane is deleting most of his post history and editing his old posts on: September 27, 2015, 09:19:26 PM
Why spend so much time deleting so many of your previous  posts.

Just seems to be strange behaviour.
2210  Economy / Economics / Re: What happens to the price of gold if 300 tons are dumped on the market? on: September 27, 2015, 09:03:14 PM
Its not just rarity that counts but liquidity.

If you had a large stack of osmium or rhodium who could you sell it too?

You could shift kg's of gold with little effort.
2211  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: turtlehurricane is deleting most of his post history and editing his old posts on: September 27, 2015, 08:48:50 PM
a lot of his posts will be archived here -

https://bitcointa.lk/members/turtlehurricane.251518/

How is a newbie with the ability to post only once every 360 seconds suppose to quote a scammer's post with hundreds of posts before he deletes them all? By the time I even get halfway through his posts he will be in Mexico drinking Piña coladas


Does anyone have his dox? If so then I would defiantly be interested in it considering how clear it is that this person is a serial scammer who selectively scammed many people over a long period of time. 

on 20BTC ?

Mexico must be very cheap  Cheesy
2212  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [WTS] Perth Mint 2000 1 oz Gold Lunar Year of the Dragon coin - MS69 on: September 27, 2015, 08:46:01 PM
Nice coin, Perth mint did a great job with the lunar series.

Missed Series I but have series II up to date and about to buy the new monkey.

Can get expensive to complete the set though, the ox and mouse cost me a small fortune.
2213  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: turtlehurricane is deleting most of his post history and editing his old posts on: September 27, 2015, 08:05:48 PM
This guy is culling the hell out of his previous posts.

He's obviously trying to disappear owing a lot of people a lot of money.

I saved his linked in profile as a pdf if anyone needs it before it gets deleted.

Suggest people grab as much info as possible for when people start looking for him.
2214  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: turtlehurricane is deleting most of his post history and editing his old posts on: September 27, 2015, 04:41:31 PM
Just go through his post history and quote every post Smiley

he cant delete those
2215  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: turtlehurricane is deleting most of his post history and editing his old posts on: September 27, 2015, 04:21:43 PM
a lot of his posts will be archived here -

https://bitcointa.lk/members/turtlehurricane.251518/
2216  Economy / Economics / Re: How much do you think silver will go to? on: September 27, 2015, 02:39:05 PM
Dont get people's obsession with comparing crypto currencies to gold/silver.

Litecoin offers nothing really different from bitcoin.

Gold/Silver have different real world uses and the industrial demand for silver is huge.

Silver is more volatile than gold but has more upside potential at this time due to a widening GSR ratio.

I have a little silver but mostly gold as silver is taxed at 20% in the UK (I know you can get it from Germany at lower price etc. but the premiums are still high compared to gold)
2217  Economy / Economics / Re: A bankster in the UK wants to ban big bills on: September 27, 2015, 12:39:26 PM
I can't see I would mind them banning these bills. When do you ever use them nowadays? Any big purchase will be done through a bank transfer anyway.

I hardly carry cash with me anymore, just use the card.

Start with the big bills, then the medium, then all the others.

The banks will own your ass and you wont be able to fuck all about it.
2218  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: September 26, 2015, 03:13:50 PM
Gold makes me feel secure in case of a SHTF situation. I rather prefer bitcoin due to the ease of transportation. Try smuggling $100,000 of gold through an airport and see the harassment you get.

Is this a situation that many people encounter on a regular basis or just a make believe situation highlighting digital storage.

p.s. $100,000 dollars of gold is only 2.7kg and the size of about 2 1/2 smart phones.
2219  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: September 26, 2015, 02:50:23 PM
Most people that have invested and are investing in gold are people that always should be afraid from thieves.
Because gold is something physical thing and i saw in TV that people that hold golds are allowed to have gun for self protection.
Investing in bitcoin is something digital (virtual) and it can be hidden and other people can not know what how much is your budget..

Checked the scam accusation thread here lately?

People are loosing bitcoin through scams, hacked wallets, dodgy exchanges, fraud, key loggers etc.

I dont worry about my gold stash but I always wonder if my bitcoin is still in my wallet.
2220  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: September 26, 2015, 02:23:06 PM
Kind of a contradiction, if the price sky rockets as you suggest then a small block reward from mining should still be profitable.
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