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2221  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin Die or Pump Up in 2023? on: December 30, 2022, 06:54:30 AM
Elon became an influence on crypto because he always mentions bitcoin and Dogecoin on his twitter, and this is also supported by a very large number of twitter followers.
Elon Musk is an influencer not because he do mention bitcoin, doge or any other cryptocurrency, it is because it has large number of twitter followers, even having follower than any of his companies like Tesla. We know what most people are, they just like to follow someone that is known to them, that people know so well in the community.

And what if Btc does not meet the price you were expecting? You're gonna leave the market? Lol.
We should be positive about bitcoin for not to remain discouraged, to be able to invest at the appropriate time. The bear market period could be long, but there would be a time all-time-high is certain and it is getting closer day by day.
2222  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: December 29, 2022, 09:24:38 PM
Manchester City clearly has the advantage in this situation because they have 1 match in hand, but still Manchester City must fight to win it. Their next opponent will be Everton, I know Manchester City is the favorite but Everton, who is trying to create a distance from the relegation zone, of course cannot be underestimated. I believe Manchester City has a better chance of winning than Everton, superiority and home games will play an important role in this match. Meanwhile, Newcastle also looks very likely to continue its positive trend as Leeds are not in their best form.

If Manchester City manages to win full points in the match against Everton, then that means Arsenal must force themselves to win away at Brighton. It's going to be a very competitive race, but I expect Arsenal to trend down a bit this week.
Everton is losing away matches or they draw it than they win, Manchester City only had one loss and won seven. This would not be a hard match for Manchester City to win. I understand that Everton could be tough and able to win any club, that is premier league, but Manchester City are very good at home.

Brighton player may try their best but Arsenal has the best away performance yet, although I do prefer to go for over 2.5 odd for this type of matches, but if I should guess who to win, I will prefer going for Arsenal though, but let us see a game played with Gabriel Jesus, Arsenal really surprised me in the last home match.
2223  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gambling today and lesson i learnt (lost 2000 usd today) on: December 29, 2022, 09:12:55 PM
Gambling is very simple because we only need to prepare money and play immediately.
But gambling also requires control because they and we should have seen the many bad experiences we have had.
Gambling is not a way to make a quick buck so they have to think twice about trying it because it won't always work.
Gambling is simple for those that have control and that do not spend much but only spend little on it, but for those that can not control the amount and time they spend on gambling, it is not easy for such people.

it is difficult to stop gambling addicts, if they run out of money they will find ways to be able to play. by becoming a thief or other crime that will become more dangerous. only by going to jail is it possible to be able to heal mental and negative thoughts. This incident of losing everything will think of self-introspection
If someone is addicted to gambling, it is difficult to stop just because the person do not have the mind to stop, but the day the person will have the mind to stop will be the beginning of the possibility that he may stop gambling addiction, but this do occur after they have lost so big and almost all they have if not all they have, but in the process, some people will turn to become thieves.
2224  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would be an ideal KYC solution? on: December 29, 2022, 09:03:53 PM
Many people afraid about their document selling trough acquired when registering on some gambling casino, I don't think have easy procedure about KYC or document ID from casino gambling will sell in dark market, they have securing and regulation before adapting KYC procedure.
That is why it is good to avoid fake or scam gambling sites, after they will try to scam many users, some users can be scammed while their identity documents can be sold in the black market. A good gambling site will try to protect their customers identity documents but what if it is hacked? Also that you should not trust any company if you do not want to feel disappointed while your data has been leaked.

Don't be serious with KYC procedure adopted at several casino gambling because several casino is free for joining without have submit KYC, but have disadvantage with limited withdrawing without submit KYC and preparing later if account get trouble have to use KYC. Have been habit with uploading document, all exchange cryptocurrency market make necessary with uploading document ID and take selfie.
What I have noticed is that deposit is easy and it requires no KYC, but if you win and want to withdraw, or you want to withdraw from the gambling site, that is when you will know that they will request for KYC before you will be able to withdraw minimum withdraw amount.
2225  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: wallets that work with bet365 on: December 29, 2022, 08:48:23 AM
Other members are given already listed supported with bet365 but of course, you need to consider at the same time with the bank if they are allowing the use of the cryptocurrency direct to their bank because some of them don't allow this kind of transaction and makes a question with it to prevent at the same time freezing those assets in some instances they ask their users regarding with the transaction if this is a legit and clean because we know the cryptocurrency yet not too much accepted by the banks.
Bet365 is a gambling site, but not a crypto gambling site, all they accept are fiat. If you have crypto and want to gambling on the site, you will have to first convert it to fiat and then deposit fiat on the gambling site. Only what I just know is that if gambling is not seen as illegal, or if foreign gambling site not seen as illegal, or bet365 is not seen as illegal in his country, he should be able to withdraw using wire transfer.
2226  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would be an ideal KYC solution? on: December 29, 2022, 08:34:10 AM
Just as reputable casinos are seriously asking us for our personal information details, so they can give us a fair play and a safeguarded environment, then we also have to do in return by trusting them that they will not be disclosing and become responsible on keeping our personal information safe and secured.
Any site that you provide KYC, do not believe that the site can not sell customers KYC information, but in gambling, most gambling sites are demanding for KYC now, but giving it out to them only means you trust them but no one can be trusted when you are talking about KYC, we have seen many companies that people trusted that later give their customers KYC to another company. KYC and also be breached by hackers.

We should not also expect excellent service from a gambling site because their customers comply with KYC policies, it does not mean. Only the sites that their customers are not having genuine complaints should be the most trusted.
2227  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Chasing the big multipliers in soccer on: December 29, 2022, 08:26:28 AM
I know of persons who always bet on the underdogs to win because of the big words associated with them and they have been unlucky more times than they have been lucky, but any day they get lucky and the underdogs win like we saw In Argentina Vs Saudia Arabia where Saudi Arabia shocked everyone by winning Argentina, the winning is usually very large.

Betting on the underdogs require a big measure of believe, to believe when others do not, to make decisions that people refuse to make, it is not a betting strategy for everyone.
Underdogs do have a very big odd, but how many people will go for underdogs, to me it is not a good selection to stake on underdogs, but matches can disappoint us at times and the underdog may win, but taking underdog will also only still bring losses. I too go for underdog sometimes just because I used just little amount of money on betting, so if I lose, I will not think about it like something left my bucket because the money used for it is small. All I have noticed about betting is that there is no way you can win the betting site more if you gamble more, even if you are selecting the underdog, they still get your money, if you are taking the strongest team, they have small odds that still will let them win your money.
2228  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gambling today and lesson i learnt (lost 2000 usd today) on: December 29, 2022, 08:07:06 AM
yes that's why OP hasn't been active since 15th november last active in this forum and this thread keeps getting picked up, I think leaving this thread is a good choice because it's not worth discussing anymore
Because the OP of a thread is not actively posting on the thread, does not means the thread should remain inactive. If you think that a thread is too long or not worth discussion again, you can just go to the OP post which is the first post that lead to discussion, see the report link at the lower right corner of it, click on it and report what you want to report.

That's the more reason why it soon becomes an addiction when they gamble for money. They see gamble as a way of making quick bucks and then sometimes they are lucky but sometimes when they are not, they end up losing all their money.
Gamble is quite a risky venture and very difficult to leave once it becomes a habit.
What trick people most is when they first stake their first bet and they win, or maybe the second too and they win, because of that, they will think that gambling is very simple and they will continue to gamble until losses begins.
2229  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BANKMAN-FRIED PANIC GAMBLES TO REPAY DEBT on: December 29, 2022, 07:55:38 AM
The bad side from centralized exchange site was the transparency. All of funds were not transparent and these funds kept in the hot wallets which owned by the exchange site and so once the platform faces a big problem like that and then the owner can run away with whole of money. FTX customers were just users of platforms that thought that if that was a trusted platform. Decentralized exchange site the same possibility. We can't really sure to trust the human nor code created by human.
The source looks unreliable for me. Sam was gambling customer's funds through alameda. SBF also said that he used mostly of funds to buy robinhood shares. I don't even think that the news that already published by OP was coming from a reliable source
It is true that the problem of exchanges is that customers just only trust the exchange owner which supposed not to be, as the customers coins are not transparently stored on a wallet, even proof of reserve can still be manipulated and nothing should be trusted about those centralised exchanges. But people are always warned not to leave their coins on exchanges but they do not, they still prefer to safe their coins on an exchange where their coins are not safe.

I do not consider that news to be true, but also we do not not know how true it is or even if it is true at all.
2230  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: December 29, 2022, 07:49:34 AM
The development of Manchester City is getting great, everyone is aware of this, only people who are less updated don't know about this.
Manchester City has been play very well since many years ago, but I do not see any development because they are still unable to win Champions League, I will rate the Club more if it can win the UCL, but still unable to.

Leeds is an easy opponent for Manchester City. By having a great team squad, Manchester City really deserves their victory.
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It should be clear to everyone that Manchester City would win that match and that many goals would be scored, Leed is a small club to Manchester City, it was not a surprise for anyone as the strong team is what people expected to be the winner.
2231  Economy / Gambling / Re: Any Casino Android software on: December 28, 2022, 08:10:47 AM
I play both mobile and desktop (Personal Computer). However, I do not rely on mobile application-supported casino. I use my phone's browser. Moreover, I think your reasoning in this matter does not support your claim that applications are better than browsers when it comes on gambling because... you can still use a browser on your phone.
I too use browser on mobile phones too to access casinos and sport gambling sites, most of the gambling sites are not even having a mobile app while the browser access is enough. But using app has its own benefit too is what I was saying, example is one click access, better experience and some other reasons if compared to mobile phone. But I have played on some casino before that I like the browser version of it, example is bet365. I think this will depend on user, but there are several users that are accessing using browser.

But gambling site apps are not common because they are not allowed on app store is what I think.
2232  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: wallets that work with bet365 on: December 28, 2022, 08:03:30 AM
I recommended to use PayPal if you have some restrictions with gambling. In such situation i don`t think that using bank transfer is a good idea.
The same time, if we look at the table, @Daltonik attached, we can see that there is no problem with withdraw using Visa or MasterCard. And you can do wire transfer. But i don`t think that it would be easier than using credit cards.
Do not get this in a wrong way unless you are using bet365, you may not have PayPal withdrawal option, you may deposit with master or visa card and not able to withdraw with both. I have used bet365 before very well, my deposit method is master card, but I can not withdrawal using the mastercard. I would have preferred using master card for withdrawal which its processing time is shorter (I think within 24 hours) but the only withdrawal option I have is wire transfer.
2233  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Licenses and Casino reputation on: December 28, 2022, 07:01:43 AM
A lot of crypto casinos started operating without a Curacao license, or any license at all... they added it along the way. My opinion is that this license doesn't mean much, at least not for us crypto players, and especially not for us who don't gamble with big money.
A person that would be scammed will think like this, that a casino do not have to obtain a license before operating, but people having intention to scam people will not think about license at all. Having a license is not the only way and only what to research for before knowing a gambling site is good or not, how old the casino is and its reputation is very important, but it is worth going for the gambling sites that have a license.

License is not something that protects players, I guess it's more to protect the casino itself, probably more problems are solved here on the forum than anywhere else.

Betfury operated for months (if not the entire year, I am not completely sure) without a license, and they have grown a lot since then. Now they are a big and reputable crypto casino.
I understood, there are some gambling sites that have good intention that may not have the money to first get a license, I do not think that some like freebitco even has a license up till now, while those sites are trustworthy now, you are not wrong, but I can not go for a new gambling site that has no license.
2234  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to win gambling? on: December 28, 2022, 06:50:40 AM
There’s no certain tricks or strategies on how to win in gambling because everything happens uncertainly. But if you mean how not to lose in gambling, yes the advices above really fit and are beneficial to all types of gamblers. So maybe you can edit your title OP for more clarity on the topic and so that this thread too will create good and productive discussions that all gamblers will benefit.
I do not think there should be any changes to the title, if you are gambling for not to lose, it only means you do just want to win, if anyone is looking for a way not to lose, that could be the start of looking for money from gambling and the result can be disappointing as it could be of losses. What I just think is that OP needs to know that in gambling, it is luck and the luck is negligible, which means the success and luck in gambling is smaller. There is no way to avoid losses in what is risky.
2235  Other / Off-topic / Re: 400M Twitter users’ data is reportedly on sale in the black market on: December 26, 2022, 08:05:10 PM
Elon Musk reduced Twitter workers to almost half of the present workers before he took over, I hope this is not the work of one of the workers that were affected. But anyone on social media should know there is nothing private about themselves on social and that their data can be leaked.

This is harmful to us. Scammers frequently use leaked data to send Phishing links. We need to be cautious and save our money.
I do not see how this is harmful to you because you know how to avoid phishing attack  Grin, but harmful to many people on Twitter because they do not know about phishing attack, some would have been scammed before they learn.
2236  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why are some Post deleted on: December 26, 2022, 07:29:27 PM
Let me give you an additional advice. If a post is a spam, it will be deleted, your post was deleted because it is not of good quality. I will advice you to just be patient, learn about this forum, about how good posters are posting, you will later understand why your post was deleted after you are posting better and increasing your posts quality.
2237  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: December 26, 2022, 06:58:19 AM
Arsenal coach is doing a great job in this season, that made many people to believe that Arsenal will have something special to embrace in this premier league competition. Their performance has moved the team to first position in the premier league table that surprised many people, because last season they didn't come close to second position before the end of the tournament. I don't think, Arsenal need new players in this season, because their players are doing wonders in all their position to ensure they break record in this season to embrace the title.
I was not expecting Arsenal to be in the first position on the table, but it is not a surprise for me because that is sport and that is football as it is sport, anything can happen, you can even see an underdog win a league or cup, but the chance is only small, but possible. Arsenal started very well this season, they are now in first position which is getting farther little by little if they continue what they started well in an excellent way as they started it. World has been finished now, I hope their players will not deteriorate but play better because I go for Arsenal this season after obtaining the first position, because the club is worth it.
2238  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Licenses and Casino reputation on: December 26, 2022, 06:51:38 AM
License is just a paper that proves a company is well recognized and can operate. It does not guarantee any form of legitimacy.
Having a license still helps gamblers to know that a gambling site may not be a scam gambling site, unlike a gambling site that has just opened and not having a license. Having a license is one if the means you will know if to learn more about a gambling site to know if to use it or not. The money used to obtain a license is not small at all and scammers will not be able to risk it to obtain a license.

A company can pay money to be licensed and still scam its customers and nothing will happen and the organization that grants them license can not be hold responsible but they can only seize their license. Suing such companies is just a waste of resources considering the money and times you'll spend in the process.
I have not experienced this before, but just that some users can also can even do not follow a gambling site terms of service and accuse the gambling site of scam.
2239  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin My Best Chrismas Gift on: December 25, 2022, 09:08:28 PM
That is a good idea because if you buy shoes and other expensive items, it will be damage one day and you will just not sell it and it will add no value, unlike bitcoin that will add value because the price is low now.

But as for me, I have money I invested and that I am still investing on bitcoin, that will not make me not to buy Christmas wears and other things that I needed for Christmas, but what I bought are not expensive.
2240  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this a good plan at all? on: December 25, 2022, 08:26:39 AM
Actually, that's the best way to ask if a user is unsure about any terms involving the use of a VPN.

Admit it, there are users that even reading the Terms and Service seriously and focusing, can't find the section referring to the use of VPN. Because they were unable to see that, they will assume that using VPN isn't part of the team.

At least by asking the support directly, a user can get a direct response. Optional but just for reference in case of the account is being sh*t because of the use VPN, take a screenshot of the chat where the support responds that it's fine to use VPN.
When I read the topic, we should not confuse the OP. See what he asked:

Crypto gambling keeps growing faster than Fiat gambling, it's good to see that the masses now favours crypto for gambling than using Fiat but the only issue I have with crypto is the security, data breach and co so I want to know if hiding my IP on a crypto gambling website is secure? I am going with a premium sub of express VPN. If you think otherwise please tell me.

Know that VIP can be secure and not secure, free VPN are not secure and you should use a paid VPN which are better, or use the free version of a paid VPN, like Proton VPN.

If you connect to a website with VPN, it adds nothing to your security, but a way to provide anonymity. Follow what harizen said that you should ask the customer care before using VPN if it is not stated on the gambling site ToS.
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