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2221  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Chat GTP destroy poker on-line gambling??? on: June 30, 2023, 02:41:02 PM

With the statement above you, only means that with the right information AI can beat anyone as it can be possible as programs can be develop in terms of additional information that being supply to update the knowledge and to adopt to any changes, though in game like pokers where there are strategy which human knowledge can only adjust in an actual game time, I see a big differnce in a possible outcome.

But I don't see any problem if AI system will learn a lot and make more winning sessions, as time pass and the learning process
can be done in updating AI system.

There is no doubt that it will be something like this , playing Poker for any AI is something Super easy and also very easy for an AI to win, despite the fact that now they are developing so many things so that poker is almost like a sport I think that the AI, with the different points of view of some programmers regarding the algorithms, can do Incredible things, perfection algorithms for these Programs is a Solution and if, when the whole game is perfected, it has to be integrated into the game Casino and that is where the problem is, and here in the future this will be a minor problem, it will already be a matter of moving something in the programming and be completely good, ready to destroy any type of tournaments , generally people That they use it will be a great fight between AI , what will Remain for us as humans will be to Be a spectator.

Technology is indeed advancing yeah, Ai are being built to make things much more easier for humans, that's very OK, but then again, let's not forget that casinos, and their games, not just poker, is also part of that technology that is advancing, one thing I am very sure of is that, if we ever arrive at a stage where winning games like poker becomes pretty simple for Ai, the game will sure be rebuilt to increase it's difficulty of winning..
This is what I personally see and feel will happen at the end of the day.
I think that just what might happen because its a business and the gambling industry including poker games will just join in the adjustment and tighten the games abit if AI are actually making it easy for gamblers to win consistently. Just as AI technology are advancing and making things or gambling easy same technology will also be added to the gambling world because the owners of this gambling companies actually needs customers to be losing more because thats how they make their money.
2222  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who Buys Bitcoin When The Price is 100k$? on: June 29, 2023, 09:11:23 PM
You would have said the same when Bitcoin price went from $3.5k in March 2020 to $30k in 2021. Why would someone buy Bitcoin now as it's 10x within an year?
Guess what? People bought and price went up to 20x with $69k the All-Time High of Bitcoin. Similarly, when the price will reach $120k, there will still be buyers looking to buy the bits left in the market. Don't worry about that, it started from $1 and is currently at $30k and still people buying.
It's true, that's the cycle that happens. now it might look scary if kia buys at 100k. but a few years later maybe buying at 100k will be a thing that isn't scary. because even 5 or 10 years ago people would not have expected to buy bitcoin at 30k like it is today. Maybe the price of 30k, which is currently holding up, will be hard to find again in the future. and in the future the price of Bitcoin could revolve around 100k. so buying at 100k at that time might be considered normal.
I think I can relate to what you  mean, because years back when the price was low as 10k people were skeptical as they are now in buying when the price actually reach 30k or even 20k but look at where we are today people are still buying even when the price finally reached 30k so like you said same feat will happen when the price climbs to 100k maybe by that time people will guessing to see the price climb to 150k so buying at 100k will be a normal thing then.
2223  Other / Meta / Re: Offensive words on the forum on: June 29, 2023, 09:04:57 PM
On the contrary it's now difficult to know users that are building accounts in order to earn. Besides those who are more interested in learning than earning will in the end still wear paid signatures. Before now, how to easily identify those who are only interested in earning is through the bounty. But now their attention is shifted to signature campaign, hunting for 100 merits.
I don't think anyone needs to study an account history before replying to a question or sending a merit. If the post worth merit then send merit without looking for who is behind the account, if the discussion is interesting then response it. Policing every account and trying to find fault in every forum account is just bad. It's pointless, makes the whole thing wrong about the concept of a forum. Obviously if something comes up undeniable truth then change your mind.

Keep it simple. Share knowledge and seek.
Its really funny you pointed this out so plainly because this is exactly the habit of some specific members here in the forum of which I won't mention but so forum members are found doing this exact act, I mean whats all the fuzz about, is it really necessary to check someone post history before given a merit, if the post is worth meriting its best you just merit it and move on.
2224  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: June 29, 2023, 08:58:00 PM
Ancelotti stays for one last season you know and he would be ready to say the best kind of goodbye to his team. This season was a big disappointment for Real Madrid. They were out of the title race for the La Liga early and it wasn't much different in the Champions League either. They seemed quite vulnerable against Manchester City unlike the previous season. They completed the season with only a Copa del Rey title as a result. This was a big fall compared to the previous season in which they won the La Liga and CL titles both.

Real Madrid had better not make do with Joselu transfer and sign a credible striker for both big tournaments as well. After that it is all up to maintaining a high level of team effort.
I can only imagine how their performance is going to be seeing that they have lost one of world most prolific striker along with a couple vital player too. Indeed their campaign last season was a bit disappointing compared to the previous campaign but its quite normal because you cant expect them to win or be in a very good form all the time but I believe they can find the formula this season that can guarantee them a fight in this season laliga title. Signing joselu would be a good step to preparation of the new season.
2225  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: June 29, 2023, 08:51:02 PM
IIkay Gundogan for a fact is world class midfielder who's prowess in the middle of the park can never be undermined. But I don't think his departure from Manchester City to Barcelona will create a significant vacuum in City's midfield.
After he left City for Barcelona, Manchester City has signed a suitable replacement for his position at the club. Mateo Kovacic will not just replace his position but also his jersey number at the club and with Pep Guardiola's rotational skills, City would've still not felt his departure even without signing Kovacic
Mateo Kovacic is a pretty decent replacement on par with IKay Gundogan for the same position. I am also very impressed with the tactics implemented by Pep Guardiola in terms of selecting and releasing his players to keep the team running on actual performance and I think Manchester City will still be a strong team next season in the Premier League competition and the Champions League because Manchester City is still have more great players in their current team.

I'm not sure if Mateo Kovacic can be a worthy replacement for Gundogan. Gundogan is a great player. And since he has been with the City squad for a long time, he has adapted well to this squad. And along with assists, he could also score goals when the team needed them. However, Mateo Kovacic has scored 4 goals and assisted 17 in his last 5 seasons with Chelsea. I don't think Guardiola has found a suitable replacement for Gundogan.
If there is one coach I won't argue for his player choice it would be guardiola, the man knows exactly what he needs in a player and utilizes these players to their very best. Kovacic in mere comparation doesn't match gundogan but I still can't wait to see him perform because I believe with guardiola as his coach now he definitely play much better than he is currently rated.
2226  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Enlighten people about Cryptocurrency. on: June 29, 2023, 08:47:13 PM
Yes many people are afraid that Bitcoin is a scam. But this the best time to them to accept coin though there will be no late in Bitcoin whenever they come, they are welcome but they would have been benefited if they started it early from now. Don't only tell people about di advantages but also tell him the disadvantages. Bitcoin was created in 2008 and launched in 2009 and the creator was Satoshi Nakamoto. This is the beginning before the advantages and disadvantages.
My broad na true you talk here, because it is better to tell people about the negative part first rather than tell them about all the positive side because we naija people sabi point fingers well well. Imagine now say people come invest for crypto because say u tell them and then the market come crash all the blame go point to you because you no explain the volatility for the person.
2227  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: June 28, 2023, 09:44:56 PM
No doubt Manchester united has been solid ever since Ten Tag took over, he managed to play two cup finals and won one and ended the league in top three,  he has proven beyond reasonable doubt, that he is the man for the job. and if this ownership handover favour the Qatar investor,  I'm convinced that Manchester united will be contending for the title next season and will perform well in the champions league as they used to.

its just unfortunate, that the ownership issue is still delaying and the transfer Market is very on, Manchester united has not brought in any players none sold any. this issues is really affecting the whole club. I just wish it turn out well for the club.
Indeed, there has been no news of a major transfer made by Man United in preparation for next season. But relying on the players this season seems difficult. They need central defenders, attackers, and midfielders who dare to work hard. Indeed, progress is quite good in Ten Haag's coaching period. It's just that they haven't performed stable last season. Ten Hag must be able to bring out the spirit of working hard and fighting together and eliminate selfishness for all players.
A team based on the players of defenders and midfielders can go a long way. For Man United to do well next season, the midfielder and defender issues need to be addressed quickly. A good defender can defend against the attack of the opposing team. But as far as I know the Man United coach is a very sensible person. It is hoped that this coach will be able to solve all the problems of Man United very soon
I don't know about solving the problems in Manchester united so soon because this team or club will definitely need time to restore it former glory days with sir Alex ferguson. I mean since he left the club Manchester united have seriously struggle to each in shape.

Eric ten Haag indeed has done brilliantly with the club in securing a place in the final three in table of the premier
League, but he still need more  time to developed the club
2228  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income on: June 28, 2023, 09:35:35 PM
Gamblers who want to earn income from gambling and become their only source of income can only be done if they try other ways, but still in the world of gambling, for example by building a website about gambling site reviews, so that there he can include affiliates and get commissions from users who register through his link, and this requires hard effort because he has to learn many things so that he can have a gambling review site that produces.
But if the only way he does this is by betting on sports betting or playing in casino games, then it will be difficult for the gambler to earn the same amount every time, or he may even only lose for a few days after that win but the amount cannot recoup the amount of loss he has suffered before, so income is earned in other ways instead of sticking to betting and playing.
That is correct. Usually people who claim to make a living exclusively from gambling don't necessarily profit from their personal bets, but from the referral comissions, sponsorship and contracts they have with third party services and entrepreneurs, including the casinos where they play. So it's true these individuals make big profit from the gambling industry, however, not as majority of the public supposes at first impression. Therefore, it will work only for one or another person, not being possible to reproduce this "money earning method" in large scale for the audience who watch the influencers and dream about being part of this world as well.

This type of case where people start to earn a lot of money with their referrals, my question is how do they do it? how can they earn so much? If these are things that seem quite difficult to me, what is that secret that some people have? Will it be to meet casino players and offer them your referral link? I have tried to leave my referral link is many sites and I do not have a single referral, where I have tried the most is with freebitcoin but apparently almost everyone knows the site and they already have an account and have previously played , because I do not see another option , through that casino you can Win that way Too.

Don't worry yourself mate, you will need to be a very infleuncial person in order for you to actually gather up some referral bonus from sites that gives them. No doubt this referral thing is very stressful and I have tried so many times myself and it all seem to not be working and I deduce my final conclusion that only influential people who has lots of contacts thats if you are sharing by contacts or followers on their handle that can possibly work out this referrals
2229  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Have you, or would you ever use a Bitcoin ATM? on: June 28, 2023, 05:16:22 PM
I never used one also because I don't have any in a radius of probably at least 200km. And of course fees are prohibitive. ATMs are just another business. If one can, should always buy from others or some exchanges!
Yes I was told that the machines are private own so they are purely for business purpose so they charge each transaction and the charges are not the same. Like the one in my country which very far from me that I don't even know when I will see it charges very high. But even at that people still use it. So sometimes it is not even the charges but the availability and the security not the machine. One thing I also consider about the machine is the security of the card details.
Well I won't say I have seen or used any BATM,  but with the videos I have watched about the tutorials on how the BATM works I think I can draw a conclusion that the used of the BATM is pretty secure and safe. Especially with the BATM thats deals with QR code scan. I would love to try out one someday maybe in means of buying bitcoin but the major factor is that the machine's are pretty limited and only few personal business have these installed in their firm seeing that the use of bitcoin is still somehow prohibited in the region.
2230  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC 100K FOR 2024 ! on: June 28, 2023, 01:35:18 PM
Immediately it is a new ATH I am taking profits straight up
If you planned on taking a profit at the new ATH you should have a good exit strategy to take your profit, implying this kind of strategy below would save you from taking a profit way too soon than supposed, I know how the feelings use to be when you exit the market early, and in some occasions, the market moves up like 2x from your point of exit, I suggest you should try this method while the market has not changed direction, 1st take 25%, 2nd 30%, 3rd 50%, 4th 70% and finally 100% 0f your portfolio.
That is a nice idea!
Purely a DCA way of selling. Just the reverse of buying in percentages too. I appreciate your advice. This method will make me not to regret much even if the market keeps moving upwards after attaining a new ATH.
Also, if after attaining a new ATH and bitcoin price begins to drop, it will not also affect me much since I am selling in percentages.

For those selling on the way up, I would also consider selling smaller amounts, and never going 100% fiat (which means never going completely out of BTC), even if there might be some who will choose to sell large amounts of their BTC on the way up.

My own personal strategy is to sell ONLY a small percent for each time that the BTC price goes up (so I am selling even less than .5% for every 10% that the BTC price goes up.. .. even though there are some folks who have recommended selling 10% for every 100% that the BTC price goes up, such as in:

Rpietila's (Risto) 2013 Thread entitled:  (SSS) - A Sane and Simple bitcoin Savings plan

Please note that even rpietila was talking about starting to sell BTC once the BTC price had already gone up several times (past a certain threshold), and in that thread he was also recommending to never sell his whole BTC stash (even though I am not sure if he completely stuck with some of his suggested strategies and he turned out to be a scammer and he had his own personal drama issues.... too..  RIP).
Well  after reading the thread and some comments in the link provided, I think you would rather prefer not to sell off any BTC if in case you are possession of some because the uptrend of the price is just a reminder that bitcoin bullish movement is still alive and has more force in it to even break bigger. When reading through the thread (SSS) - A Sane and Simple bitcoin Savings plan  I could see some comment of some members actually arguing about the price going more than 10k $  then, and it made me imagine how big and fast bitcoin has grown since that time and the height at which it will attain in the coming years, I could say one can only hope to store and stack enough BTC as he or she can because the market is certainly going to go surpass the current 30k$ mark so selling BTC isn't going to be a thing I would want to do.
2231  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: June 28, 2023, 01:14:19 PM
My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.


We have those that are good at picking the team that'll win and that's why they open this groups to help those who don't have the time to research on the sport they want to bet on. What they're doing isn't hard to do yourself but since you don't have the experience you won't win.

You can follow this group but when they give out the predictions, you can do some research yourself to verify if you have high potential of winning any of the games they predicted for you. You can't totally depends on this groups as they can't always get all prediction correctly.
Then whats the essence of wanting to waste time in following such groups. Most time some of these groups actually request for some kind cash to be paid by their customers for a particular prediction to be given to them guaranteeing that the particular prediction is safe to stake your cash on which obviously isn't the case after the match has been played.
2232  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: June 27, 2023, 09:37:26 PM
I completely supports Glazers leaving. Simply their fans are not satisfied with the way they are running the club. It's frustrating to see the lack of necessary movement in the transfer market while other clubs are making significant moves. It looks like every summer, they're just observing, targeting and monitoring for something to happen. So, I do believe that a serious transformation is necessary at Man United. Man United need an owner who truly understands the club and has a clear vision for its future. Fans are fed up with the current management and their inability to make the necessary changes to bring the club back to its glory days.

I believe Sheikh Jassim's interest in acquiring ownership of Manchester United is quite serious. According to several reports, Sheikh Jassim has made multiple offers to the current owners, the Glazer family. Based on this, I assume that Sheikh Jassim genuinely desires to purchase shares in Manchester United. If this were to materialize, it would further add to the list of clubs acquired by individuals from Arab countries in the English Premier League.

Regarding the current transfer market, it seems that the process of acquiring ownership of the club is one of the obstacles causing Manchester United to proceed cautiously. It is likely that they will carefully consider the players to be sold and those to be acquired in order to have a strong chance of winning the EPL title next season. It is worth noting that they have not won the EPL championship in over a decade. Hopefully, Erik Ten Hag can bring this ambition to fruition in the upcoming season.

I still can't wait to see him ( Sheikh Jassim ) acquiring Manchester United soon enough, the entire process is so tiring, the glazers are just so stubborn. He's currently being said to be in front. I ernest wish is that he finally gets the club.

I'm glad Manchester United had a great Coach, but this is the right time to backup the coach to sell flops and drop worthy players capable of fighting for Manchester United. Also, Manchester needs two quality midfielder's, so much delays with mount mason, I'd even want to see a move for James Madison over Mason Mount. Manchester United needs quality before the start of a new Premier League season.
I like to think the process is just been delayed by the glazers brother since they have been major share holders in the club for decays. But selling the club might also brings bad foot for the club, I mean take a good look at Chelsea today the club has endured much suffering since roman abramovich was forced to sell off the club. We could only hope to see them perform better next season and I do hope same faith doesn't befall Manchester united.
2233  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your rate in betting base on odds alone? on: June 27, 2023, 09:30:08 PM
If i'm only betting based on the odds, then i'd probably lose more because there are a lot of inconsistent teams between different leagues that fail to deliver a win at home and on the road whenever they're a 1.5 - 1.7 favorite. Even with research, I've been struggling to win on favourites with odds around the same range, so you need to learn when it's a trap because it's common to see bookies rate a few teams too high, and then they'll start bottling when you bet on them.
Odds can deceive anyone and sport book sites are always fun of using the odds mechanism to trick gamblers into choosing the wrong odds by being manipulative in their odd allocation,  because sometimes they give bigger odds to the stronger team and also small odds to the weaker clubs so if a gambler is not knowledge enough you end up choosing the small odds taking it as a sure odds.

But then what I like most is to bet on live games that way I can easily predict the outcome of the match and my chances of winning will be higher than expected.
I like to think the latter when it comes to live games because the game is already in session and although its hard for them to manipulate the odds then but there is still the fact that anything can happen in that game that can alter your predictions and make you lose that bet and moreover life bet makes you spend more money since you will have to stake the game huge cash to actually guaranteed any good returns and don't even start by telling me you bet for fun because you will definitely like to win and not the opposite.
2234  Economy / Lending / Re: Lending Service Started! (USDT/BUSD/BTC/LTC/ETH/DOGE/ETC)! on: June 27, 2023, 01:24:38 PM
Hello shasan,

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Loan Amount: 71USDT
Loan Purpose: personal
Loan Repay Amount: 78USDT
Loan Repay Date: 1 week
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I have accepted your loan request and sent USDT to your account. Please check your account balance. Please repay on or before the due date to TFDsiykiaAB8GeoZxVFz8MM2P4Ed9cYrfN

Hello sir I made a payment of 25$ prior to the 78$ am supposed to pay and will pay the rest when due.
Am unable to share transaction details as I sent through internal transfer.
2235  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: This increment of Fuel price in Nigeria on: June 26, 2023, 11:08:39 PM
The politicians are insensitive to the feeling of the people, poverty dey everywhere but dem no want know about that one but instead dem go try carry more money enter house. Now we dey hear say dem want share the subsidy money wey comot whether na rumour we never know, inside every rumour small truth go dey inside. Them no even talk about refinery but na how to share money dem get interest even NLC self no dey help matter.

Na better statement you just talk my brother man, because truly what I expected after the removal of this fuel subsidy matter na for Federal government to start to talk about reviving our old abandoned refineries back to start functioning again, so that we could no more keep buying fuel anymore. Because of what benefits will it be if the money is distributed,  of which I'm sure how the Covid-19 palliative ended up in the warehouses of top politicians, which I'm sure that's likewise how this money go be if shared. Because instead of sharing, they should use the money to create companies that will employ the youth.
I no know why every action wey any leader take for Nigeria,na base on wetin go male them share money within themselves. Imagine the high rate of poverty for the country,our new president come enter finish. The first thing na to stop fuel subsidy in order for them to share subsidy money instead of them to focus on tackling the issue of the removal of the fuel subsidy. Na money them won share,forgetting say this action go inflate more hardship on the citizen and worry the country economy. Sometimes,I dey wonder whether all these leaders no suffer when them small and no decide to help people wey dey suffer for their agenda. Na only God fit help our country. Why e be say any new government wet enter na fuel subsidy he dey use worry the masses.
But the main issue be say this suspension of fuel subsidy no suppose affect this fuel price like this but na because no proper price control body wey dey the country to stop this nonsense wey we Nigerians dey do to ourself. Just imagine now say you buy something your goods  for 1k and then you come dey sell for 1.5k then suddenly dey come remove subsidy  and you come increase the price to 4k where as you never even go market buy anoda stock oo but you don already add price for the thing, now  E GOOD LIKE THAT?
2236  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - CoinJoin Crypto Mixer: Your anonymity na our priority on: June 26, 2023, 11:01:13 PM
Weti dey happen for here na? Me I no dey understand the whole thing again. Even signature Campaign thread sef now na to translate? When do thing was in one thread, the thing was nicer than like this. Di first time when I see am I even think say Unijoin campaign e don come to do local board for us to participate so when I enta inside I come dey see sae na for translation purpose. By di way, Op u try 4 di work.
Chill na bro, maybe the guy dey just try to let we Nigerians know set we fit use the unijoin service as them no be only signature campaign but them actually dey offer beta mixing service wey go provide you privacy when you mix your coins and send am to anoda wallet or exchange. I know say most people no even get concern about those signature campaign dem wey dem day even promote so this guy just dey try to stand out by promoting the service him dey work for.
2237  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: June 26, 2023, 10:55:35 PM
You can search the internet and find many places to buy sports picks and find that most of the guys selling the picks have a 70%+ win rate. Wunderdog.com is such a place. They cannot, nor will any telegram or forum group be able to guarantee you a win. They use their knowledge on a certain sport and give you a reasonable statement as to why a team will win. Most of your telegram groups are just people hoping to get lucky on their picks, you see the same here on the forum. These people disappear pretty quickly as they go on a massive red streak and noone wants to follow them anymore.

Basically, stay away from the group unless you are just following them for a little extra fun. Don't join hoping they will make you a millionaire in a month.
Yeah I think I have seen a few of them here also, they start by preaching of they can provide a specific odd which is a guaranteed winning on each time the odd is dropped but it all turns sideways and like you said most of them just disappear and from my experience with most people offering such service they tend to just randomly predict different option for each of their client then later post the particular one that came out victorious and in so doing convincing more clients to buy games from them.
2238  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ FIFA U-17 World Cup Discussion Thread ⚽ on: June 26, 2023, 10:15:15 PM
Well am not sure I have any favorite when its comes to football tournament and especially the youth competition like this one but am pretty sure my country has a strong team unlike the national team anytime it come to the youth team especially the under17 and they were also previous winner of the competition in 2015 and would love to see them perform well again of possible.
2239  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you guilty of promising not to gamble for specific days but back next day on: June 26, 2023, 09:26:10 PM
I did it many times back when my addiction is very high, I promise not to gamble after I lose a big amount I even swear that I will not, but the following day I'm back even promising to be better and not lose a big amount again.

How many of us are guilty of this?

This happens to me. I have never made a vow to stop gambling all together but I have told my self that I won't gamble for a few days to one week. Most times this happens when I've had too many series of losses or when I've had a big loss.
There is this feeling that I'm missing out on a lot when I decide not to play. Like "what if its this period that I'd win". It is this thought that makes me go back to gambling before the time I was suppose to.
Keeping to self promises like that requires a certain level of discipline. I'm at that point where if I say I don't want to gamble then I wont gamble.
Not only you my friend, it tends to happen to almost everyone who has had a fair share of gambling life and I am also a victim of such vows and at the end of everything I just call it a time of break from gambling and its better that way since I know that its very hard to stop the act but knowing your limit is what every gambler should do to avoid such situation.
2240  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Newbie Crypto Advice on: June 25, 2023, 09:16:42 PM
Sorry to put it out but this isn’t the right way to go about investment. You can ask people to just send DM and you trust the suggestion of a total stranger which may turn out to be a scammer. I am sure that anyone that would be sending you PM would mostly be someone that would want to promote there shitcoins.

If seriously you’re actually in for investing and then you would need to go through everything yourself and the only cryptocurrency that fits your criteria for retirement investment is bitcoin. But even that needs some knowledge on Its security and the rest. If you are truly interested in investing in them which I doubt from your post then read through the pin charts on the forum or other articles. If you need help ask it by creating a thread and stop asking for people to PM you to avoid something that I am sure would lead to you been scammed
Thats if he is not even the one looking for someone to scam, I like to be optimistic about such person asking for for pm to be given an advice which you can see clearly that the forum is an open source conversation ground and all advice's are given to a users the moment you post a thread asking for help or direction in some areas you actually understand.

I don't know but something tells me that the OP isn't actually looking for an investment means and its just trying to seek attention of volatile users here in the forum.
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