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2221  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 10, 2016, 08:54:51 AM
That is what we call rage, if rage comes to you for sure you are not going to control your emotion and the proper way of being to your gambling.
And it just tends to lose the money you are holding. I learned from my experience and it just tends that it wrecked my life. So, it is really going to wreck your life if you don't know how to manage your emotion.
More you lose , you'll being rage and you couldn't control your emotion after that you'll deposit more in gambling sites to recover your losses.
That's true , if you can't control your emotion you just making gambling wreck your life , better to prepare yourself before playing gambling.
Like prepare your mental or adjust your emotion so you can enjoying your activity.

That is right, especially when you are on the last bet tendency you are going to do the yolo mode. And you don't care if you are going to lose to your last bet with your yolo. Rage is really an hard enemy in gambling. That is the emotion that you can't stop when it comes to you. And if you can't help to manage it then you are going to wreck your life.
At least we learn from our lessons in gambling and always control ourselves under any circumstances, gambling are made to lure us with the mixed emotion that we feel so if we are not that strong we will never be a successful gambler unless we are just doing it for fun.
2222  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: August 10, 2016, 08:49:46 AM
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Rondo's getting traded within the first month!
There just isn't enough basketballs around for all three of the Chicago Ballhogs to play with. Coupled with poor spacing and no shooting ability in the backcourt, Rondo is likely the one to be traded for a point guard who can actually shoot the 3. Do you guys think that Rondo/Wade/Butler is going to last? Spacing wise, shooting, off-the-ball etc are all very bad and Rondo/Wade backcourt are not exactly sipping from the fountain of youth.
I get your statement and I slightly agree with it, rondo is not really a good shooter and sometimes does not have a good relationship amount teammates due to his attitude problem, if the 3 wants to be treated as superstars they are just simply competing among themselves and not good for gambling.

I think its a little chancd that Rajon Rondo will be traded. There is always a rumor going on that Butler might be traded because of the ability to resign with the team. Possible destination is the Minnesota Timberwolves because of their coach.
What I know is that Minnesota Timberwolves has already a great line up which are still young and very hungry to get in the playoffs, with the current coach they will be more competitive in the coming season and they don't want their team familiarity with each other to be destroyed because of the new comers, definitely they will not get butler.
2223  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: August 10, 2016, 08:43:08 AM
my best investment strategy is to do some trading in order to make money over time

tested way for years
i do also trading and try to get with minimum investment high profit with some altcoin
work so far sometimes you get much sometimes you are on the same but this is work fine for past several years so far

trade is the best way I think. because it is hard to find a investment site that is legit and profitable.
moreover trade altcoin, which has many options, it can get more profit.
That's true, in trading you are managing your own funds and you will take the consequences if you will not manage it properly, I think it is easy to earn in trading than gambling alone because you can predict the price movement and you have a big chance if you will wait for a long period of time.
2224  Economy / Services / Re: Start your own sportsbetting site on: August 10, 2016, 08:38:18 AM
Don't even think to start your own sports betting website without first having a very large bankroll like 50-100 btc and making the maximum bet an amount which cannot hit your bankroll for example in the few weeks to make it 0.25 btc max bet. It will be very difficult even for the best player to hit your 50-100 btc with this maximum amount of bet and you will have quite some big chances of raising your bankroll really soon if your website become well known. Its still a very risky thing to do if you do not have a very nice team to bring you the best odds and to read all the news and everything so you are not hit by some smart players.
This site development seems to be more important than the capital needed because not every web designer can do it though i agree that it is capital intensive but at least get the platform then you can start raising the funds.
You need to consider also the marketing because if you cannot attract players you will not earn, sports betting site is very profitable because you do not need to risk an amount big enough to cater the bets, you will just have to balance the action and you will earn from juice.
2225  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: August 10, 2016, 08:28:30 AM
I have noticed so many players are just gambling for the sake of profits only. But majority of them loses most of the games eventually as they are not smart players.

So how should we gamble in a smart way so that we do not get more frustrations due to continuous losses?

To gamble safely, you need to consider your goals. Do you want the thrill of winning one big chunk, or would you rather win several smaller pots? Do you need to make a particular amount of money, or is simply playing for a while and coming out ahead enough? How high do the stakes need to be? Are you just looking to have fun in an exciting, social setting? Don't just gamble for no reason—decide before you start what you want to get out of it. I hope this is helpful!!!!!!!!!!

Most of us wants the same thing which is to last and to win in the long run, with that, we know that we cannot have both because if we want real money we should not let our decisions coming from our heart, in sports betting the line is so deceiving because usually the winners are those heavy underdog and usually when we follow our hearts we tend to choice the better team.
2226  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 10, 2016, 08:23:14 AM
Maybe it's people that already rich that get even more rich gambling since they not afraid to just lose money at very low odds and eventually win and get a massive amount of winnings in one go ^^

It was just a thought that has not materialized. If you've ever felt the ferocity in the gambling, I am sure you all your waffle this will stab you!! . Gambling is indeed very pleasant and profitable, but it is only temporary and after that you will be tested in addiction, when you lose control of your money then all will be lost are taken by gambling. You should be able to do the repair yourself to not controlled by gambling

Gambling is just good to be profitable for a short time if you think that you are going to make it as a source to become rich then you are going to be wrong at it. Unless you are going to build up your own gambling site and you have a lot of capital for operating it maybe for a year it can help you to become rich with gambling.
It’s never okay when it’s comes to gambling but the hard part is self-controlling in gambling. Maybe you’ll win once and then you’ll get too excited and decide to put all your money in it with a hope for luck but luck never come often and I can’t think of the consequences.

One thing I can say that you don’t wanna get addicted to gambling and becoming poor by loosing your current wealth, just forget about gambling and live peacefully.
What really happened in reality is just only few are having a success in becoming rich in gambling, most of us are just dreamers who are tying our very best to make money in gambling but we lack the important factors which is discipline to win in the long run. We just want to win instantly which is not possible in gambling.
2227  Economy / Economics / Re: How many coins did you have during the rise? on: August 10, 2016, 08:14:59 AM
I have around 2 bitcoins before the halving come, so it's also during the rise and so far i get much profit during the rise and now i have 3 bitcoins.

So you have made 50% profit in the last two months, that is good achievement. Did you trade or gamble?
I think it was taken from gambling because in trading it is hard to make that kind of profit. Between the two you mentioned, I would prefer trading because it gives me more knowledge that I could use upon doing it to be more experienced and expert in the future.
2228  Economy / Services / Re: Start your own sportsbetting site on: August 10, 2016, 01:52:16 AM
It is my ambition to have a gambling site like the sports book and I appreciate your service offered but as of now I am not quite sure because my current financial standing would not allow me to do so. May I ask to everyone here, how much does it need to start a successful sportsbook?
2229  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: August 09, 2016, 09:40:41 AM
if I need a bitcoin, I would buy, and if I need money, I'll sell it, but my experience, finding and collecting a free bitcoin is fun, and if so needed the money can be sold. For financial issues, of course, everybody will not be ready, so all must be prepared first, in order not depressed.




I see many people here were never really desperate. Even that hunger is nothing when you see your hungry children crying. If any fianancial issues happened they will get depressed only They would not be in the mentality of preparing.
I think I will do that if I still have the bitcoin in my wallet. if I really need the money, I would definitely swap my bitcoin with money, and if I still have a bitcoin, I will try to multiply that number by trading. Well, I guess it's better than borrowing. because if I borrow money, it might be difficult for me to return it
If you are in desperate need of money, you would not have to take chances on trading because that is very risky, there is no assurance that you will profit in trading even how good you are, remember that we all have our bad day and it could happen to us anytime.
2230  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin halving is real? on: August 09, 2016, 09:37:33 AM
I will buy 1btc now.
Halving is true and it happening now, but if you will have profit in this halving no one knows , it depends on the value supply I'd more continue to buy bitcoin it will continue to increase.
It is not actually happening because it already happened or took place earlier this month. However, the effect has not yet been felt by the investors and we are still patiently waiting for that time to come and harvest our profit from our investment.

The halving effect could be felt 10 to 15 months after the halving. The mass adoption is an important factor.
No, it can be felt this year alone and we should think positive that it will happen, the current price surge is a good thing after the hard fall. And this is a good sign the we can achieve our speculation that after the halving the price will increase, we just need to wait for more now.
the hard fall was primarily due to the bitfinex hack dump...
if this were not to happen we would not have seen that far of a decline.
That is a misfortune for those who lose their money in bitfinex hack but an opportunity for us to buy bitcoins. This will not last for long as the price is doing great now, halving is real and we are about to experience a great price with this continuous increase.
2231  Economy / Speculation / Re: When Bitcoin will pass 1000 usd again ? on: August 09, 2016, 09:31:13 AM
I think after the ghost month, the Chinese are going to buy again. We might still see the price go down to mid $500s so that they can buy at a bargain, before they try to push it up to the high $600s again. I am not saying that they alone can control the price, but as we've seen before, the large buying spree made by the Chinese sent the price from $440 to almost $800 in a matter of short time. I would expect the price to be at the $650 level by October with an aim at $750 towards the end of the year.
My opinion is that the price fall back was done already, the current increase is the next chapter of price and we will reach another $600 in the next few days, and $700 this month alone, the hack is just a temporary panic to give the whales more chance to buy and make profit so we should side with them on that matter.
2232  Economy / Speculation / Re: PANIC BUYING !!!!!!! on: August 09, 2016, 09:27:37 AM
Nothing is permanent in the world, bitfinex scam is history now, people who have faith in bitcoin will continue to invest in it and that will gradually take price to higher level in future.

Investors will forget about the Bitfinex scam or hack very soon and the will start investing in the bitcoin again.

No degree of acceptance can ever change the facts. If you lost a decent amount of money, you will stay away from Bitcoin trading altogether. And no high-profile investor would be trading bitcoins either since there is no hedge against the systemic risk of an exchange hack (even if they set up an exchange themselves), be it a real hack or an inside job...

The writing was all over the place, in big red letters

That is one of the risks to take in trading, though we are making money because we are good in trading but we cannot do any good when hacking strikes, besides that is all about the money so we really cannot tell if there is something going on inside.
2233  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: August 09, 2016, 09:23:35 AM
Iam buy bitcoin after big dump big down price
or after big news and panic sell, accident bitfinex hack bitcoin down
panic sell is right placed right price buy bitcoin

Yes I agree with you that is the best time to buy bitcoin when its price goes down.   We are sure that its price would go up again as bitcoin is the most recognized crypto.  Buy more bitcoins while its price is still low, buy low and sell high principle.
I would prioritize buying bitcoins now than spending my money with my wants like gadget or anything else, I would not miss this opportunity that is already in front of my window, the price is really good now and in a short period of time we can easily make a profit.
2234  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 09, 2016, 09:20:01 AM
It hard to have control over ourselves once we are begin to play in regular basis. It is in human being nature to come under the influence of greed. I saw many people loosing enormous amount of money just because they wanted to recover like 0.02 or 0.05 BTC. Gambling will never fix anyone's life for sure but it has wrecked hundreds families lives which we can see around us easily.

Exactly, not only around us but if we have a glance over the world or any place in the world and if we find a gambler there he can surely share his sad story with us because gambling have been doing it from centuries, people sell their houses or in past before a lot of years people even used to sell their wives for gambling, what can be worst then that?
Is that possible to sell someones wives in gambling? I think that is a ridiculous idea of a desperate gambler, we gamble to make money for our family then it does not make sense if we are selling our wife for a certain amount of money and lose it again in gambling.
2235  Economy / Economics / Re: How many coins did you have during the rise? on: August 09, 2016, 09:14:56 AM
During the 2013/2014 rise to nearly $1,400/coin, how many bitcoins did you have?

And do you regret not selling if you didn't?

im join bitcoin in middle 2014, then im not have any bitcoin in that's time but in the end of 2014 i have arround 7bitcoin. now i have only 1bitcoin Sad
What happen to your bitcoins, why it decreased? I think the value of bitcoins will only decrease or increase. If you were able your bitcoins then you could already enjoy the value of what you are holding now, the price is really good compared to the past years after the major fall back from $1,200.
2236  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: August 09, 2016, 09:10:17 AM
Anyone bets on outright 2017? I think it should be Warriors, if Cavs can be the winner, Lebron will be no.2 superstar in the history, no.1 is Jordan.

I'm not  a Lebron fan but if he continue playing like he does he can surpass Michael Jordan as the GOAT. No hate for Jordan, he's a legend. I'm just a basketball fan, appreciating the game.

I agree, I ain't a Lebron's fan, I am Iverson's fan, but i think his spirits are awesome, never give up, working harder. One of the greatest player in the league.
Although he is one of the best floppers in the league but still you cannot help but like this guy, lebron has so many haters and he keeps proving it everytime that is why the NBA likes him as he draws so much attention for the sports fanatics which would give them good ratings.
2237  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: August 09, 2016, 09:06:43 AM
what pro gamblers always to is of course to make up with their lose because in gambling losing money is always a part of it and if you let your emotions overcome your mindset then you will surely drawn

That is inevitable, losing will always happen, a gambler always has extra fund just in case that happens and they are into vengeance and winning, which I think is not smart thing to do and not safe at all, that would just double your loss if your losing continue... Logging out and trying again the next day and having small fund in your bnakroll  is still the best idea that I know( though it's not a guarantee )...  Smiley

Having extra sessions and play on when in lose (losing is part of gambling) is like playing with steroids compared to your advice to logout and play again the next day with small bankroll. They are both the same - the only difference is the speed of time gambling Smiley
You are completely right, it is like fooling our self with that kind of method, if we lose we still lose. The only safe in gambling is to have the ability to control ourselves to minimize our loses and to enjoy more on the games.
Properly secure way to berjudia is self-control. We must have control of the bet because if we do not have control will definitely become addicted and can cause problems in themselves. If we have control we're going to bet with restrictions that reduce the amount lost so they do not lose much.
I think it is only fine to be addicted as long as we keep winning in gambling, the real gamblers who are successful in making money are addicted in gambling because they know they can have a great return by investing their time and money but for the long time losers it is not good to be addicted.
2238  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: August 09, 2016, 08:53:03 AM
Yes go back to that time and you might be too rich right now.  That would be the regrets of all bitcoiners that they don't spend their bitcoin properly.  Who would know that it would cost like a 1000 times before.  Instead of having regrets try to earn more and be wise now.  Have a good income job, take some sideline jobs and have some investment.

To get rich we should have multiple sources of income, continue with full time job and try to earn as much bitcoins as possible, if price goes to extreme high level in future, you can become rich with it.
we have to be lucky as well as wise enough to become rich. bitcoin would be an extremely risky endeavor, still, we can earn more by multiple sources like trading and gambling, with works and efforts you should have some luck.
Luck is also needed to become rich because even if we are working hard but along the way we will experience a lot of problems in life we cannot be effective in doing our task, for us to become destine to be rich we need to ask the guidance of the Lord at any times.
2239  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 09, 2016, 08:42:30 AM
You should understand that investing is good if you are sure in your succsess, because if not always better to save your money, saving is also good way of managing money.

Both of it are good, but of course we all know that before investing you must have enough capital for starting out your investment. So, before you are going to invest make sure that you have savings too. And if you are not that too strong for having an investment, it is better just to save your money daily so that you are going to have purpose for it in the future.

Well i think investing them would be better then just keeping them in a place, because by investing them you might grow them gradually with the time if you invest them on a right place but not on a place that will just eat up your investment like gambling or any other source like that.
Well, to make it very simple, investing will give you profit while gambling will not guarantee your profit. If you are after of profit you should be clever enough to choose investing as it would give your profit and it is low risk compared to gambling alone.

Investments also involves certain level of risk, you need to be very smart in choosing a product for investment as online investments nowadays have become very risky.
It's important to emphasize that investing in Bitcoin is insanely risky. even if this is a risky investment, the risk-reward ratio is still very attractive indeed.
You cannot be rich if you will not take the risk, risk is just part of investment but there are calculated risk when we can have a great advantage to make a profit. Trading and investing is one of the business venture that would provide us a profit so we should study on that.
2240  Economy / Economics / Re: I'm not gonna sell any coin. on: August 09, 2016, 08:28:26 AM
I prefer to sell when I am in need of money in case of emergency, and if I see price is good then I don't hesitate in selling small part of my coins on regular basis.
yes every one is doing so. i personally use the income of signature campaign for my daily needs, and some time when i need more money for buy some thing expensive then i change some save bitcoin in to fiat then use it for completing my need
My friend at least you also set aside some amount for your investment, you have to consider that your earnings online will have a greater value in the future. Sometimes we need to sacrifice our wants and focus on our needs and that is investing, I consider that as a needs alongside with savings because that is the only chance we can have a good money in the future.
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