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2221  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ World Cup 2018 🏆 Free Bets, Price Boosts, Free Spins! 🎉 on: June 19, 2018, 02:28:01 PM
Does every link on this thread embedded with reff link of yours? Thats kinda sneaky , Im not even sure why an admin is using a link to their own site
Do you think it is his personal affiliate link and he will get commissions or is it just to track how many unaware victims they can catch from their bitcointalk thread?
2222  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | BEST NFL and EPL odds anywhere! on: June 18, 2018, 09:19:27 PM

@Mrwinson93 To address issues regarding money laundering we are unable to allow players to deposit and withdraw without using their balance, so you will need to play through your balance at least once to be able to withdraw. We have a 'How to deposit' article on the Cloudbet Blog which might give additional information: https://cbet.ly/2sYqTtD


What you are saying is, if I deposit 1 BTC into my account, as long as I bet at least once (whatever the amount, let it be 0.1 BTC), I am eligible to withdraw my full BTC amount.

But that is not the case for me, I am told that I can only request a withdrawal once I have played through 100% of my balance. That's mean I would have to wager all 1 BTC that I have deposited before I can withdraw them all.
Why did you deposit 1 BTC if you want to bet only 10% of it?
2223  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ World Cup 2018 🏆 Free Bets, Price Boosts, Free Spins! 🎉 on: June 18, 2018, 09:07:18 PM
I must say, in spite of all the accusations against the site, this site had THE BEST UI of all the sports book that accept bitcoin. If they were a little bit more trusted, and if that earlier case where they asked for KYC would not have been their then people would have openly come into support of this sportsbook because it is so awesome.

I have always been hooked to this site with all the promotions and live betting facility that it provides. I always tend to gamble my disposable part of the income on this sportsbook. I hope the site keeps going and gains traction with time.

The belgium offer is only for new customers and in live?
There are several reported cases where the publicly proven Sportsbet scam suddenly asked for KYC after winnings!

Despite of this, the same scammers operate the publicly proven Bitcasino scam with several scam accusations and the publicly proven Vegascasino scam with several scam accusations!
2224  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | BEST NFL and EPL odds anywhere! on: June 15, 2018, 01:08:47 PM
@Mrwinson93 To address issues regarding money laundering we are unable to allow players to deposit and withdraw without using their balance, so you will need to play through your balance at least once to be able to withdraw. We have a 'How to deposit' article on the Cloudbet Blog which might give additional information: https://cbet.ly/2sYqTtD
What an absolute nonsense!!!

Anti money laundering laws require to check the identity of the depositor and not to play through the balance at an illegal casino! Roll Eyes

You are doubtless one of the biggest brain washer on this forum!
2225  Economy / Gambling / Re: ① Bitcoin Gambling Guides 2018 ✅ 15 free bonuses ✅ 120 reviews ✅ 12 countries on: June 14, 2018, 11:04:52 PM
BitcoinPenguin has problems with withdrawal lately, read more here:

https://www.askgamblers.com/online-casinos/bitcoinpenguin-casino-review/complaints

On side note, ask game protect for license of sites which they are FREE advertising, especially unlicensed casino which they are FREE advertising.

Thanks for the note about BitcoinPenguin. I'll take a look at it.
Regarding Game Protect, I don't even have the power to discuss with them. I chatted with them before and I got this:

Game Protect:
"But Game Protect is not an affiliate, its an online gaming consumer protection service. Players have the option to qualify with registering their accounts with any qualify cost free site."

Me:
"How do you make money, if you don't use tracking links on the casinos in your table?"

Game Protect:
"We have tracking links and receive commissions, but this does not make us an affiliate like you
It is just a revenue stream"

You tell me if they are an affiliate or whatever they claim to be... hahaha
The determination of whether or not someone is an affiliate depends on the main activity.

The main activity of Game Protect is online gaming consumer protection service and therefore we are not an affiliate, even though we have affiliate links.

Your main activity is stating nonsense about casinos to animate players to sign up using your affiliate links to get commissions and therefore you are an affiliate.

It is very easy to understand.
2226  Economy / Gambling / Re: ① Bitcoin Gambling Guides 2018 ✅ 15 free bonuses ✅ 120 reviews ✅ 12 countries on: June 14, 2018, 10:59:49 PM
BitcoinPenguin has problems with withdrawal lately, read more here:

https://www.askgamblers.com/online-casinos/bitcoinpenguin-casino-review/complaints

On side note, ask game protect for license of sites which they are FREE advertising, especially unlicensed casino which they are FREE advertising.
I am not able to understand why someone who advertises FortuneShit without a license asks for licenses?
2227  Economy / Gambling / Re: The Sport Challenge - Betting Exchange - Free 80 bits on: June 14, 2018, 07:15:55 PM
Why can I not read on the website without being logged in?

Does this operator has a license?

If not, is the operator known?
2228  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com | The Bitcoin Casino | Plinko, Mines, Blackjack, Roulette + 8 more 👽 on: June 14, 2018, 06:16:07 PM
Is support@stake.com still working, because I never received a response?

Yes, it is. I just tried sending email to that address and I've received a reply within a minute. Have you checked your spam folder?
Did you receive a confirmation email within a minute or was it even a response to your question?

To answer my question probably needs time, but they could at least send a confirmation email.
2229  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | BEST NFL and EPL odds anywhere! on: June 14, 2018, 06:11:19 PM
Just found out about this cloudbet site when I wanted to bet on FIFA world cup. I have a question.

For some reason when I want to withdraw it says 'You can request a withdrawal once you have played through 100% of your balance.'

Does that mean I have to bet all I have only then I can withdraw?

They will not pay it out anyways.


damn. So there is no way we can get back our bitcoin once we have deposited.
If you do not care to where you deposit your coins, why do you care if you can get them back? Does this make any sense?
2230  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sportsbet.io best ever bitcoin bookie + proofs on: June 14, 2018, 06:05:15 PM
Either you or the publicly proven Sportsbet scam is lying!!!

Because according to their statement they are obligated to ID verification if withdrawals exceeds the equivalent of 10 Bitcoins or €2300.

Hi all,

Regarding the complaint of player ExcessTest:

sportsbet.io is a regulated online gambling provider which does not withold customers funds and processes hundreds of withdrawals of BTC in a week.

Regardless the nature of Bitcoin payments as a regulated operator we are obliged to ID verification, KYC and AML (anti-money laundering) procedures by the regulator at certain withdrawal levels.

We have stated this clearly in our Terms & Conditions page available here –
https://sportsbet.io/about/general-terms-and-conditions
3.3.3. Sportsbet reserve the right to carry out additional KYC verification procedures for any withdrawals exceeding the equivalent of 10 Bitcoins or €2300 which ever is lower, and further reserves the right to carry out such verification procedures in case of smaller withdrawals, as demanded by our gaming license. Account Holders who wish to recover funds held in a closed, locked or excluded account, are advised to contact Customer Support.

You're quoting Terms & Conditions from 2017, and they have since changed.  
9.2. Sportsbet.io reserve the right to carry out additional KYC verification procedures for any withdrawals exceeding the equivalent of 1 Bitcoin or €2000 as regulated by our gaming license.
All that means is that they reserve the right to KYC anything over 1 BTC, not that it is a requirement.
You seem to be confused, which isn't really much of a surprise.
You are the one who is confused! Roll Eyes

Their own terms of service confirm their scam! Because if they are required by their regulator (whoever this is?) to do KYC, then they have to do this always and also in case of deposits!

And this confirms that they are not regulated and reserve the right to do KYC only in case of withdrawals to find a reason to defraud winnings and deposits!


The same "scam accusation" for 15 BTC (which was returned) is floating around the internet.

They caught him, and lucky for him, returned his 15 BTC deposit.

People don't understand that the scam artist attempted to defraud Sportsbet.

If you aren't familiar with the term "Double Spending," do yourself a favor and Google it.
How did they catch him and where is the proof of how they catched him?

The victim authorized sportsbet to publicise the proof and sportsbet denied! This says it all! At least for someone with a brain in his head.

If you have an issue with them, why do they offer to ask gamblers? How sick is this?
2231  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com | The Bitcoin Casino | Plinko, Mines, Blackjack, Roulette + 8 more 👽 on: June 14, 2018, 02:33:44 AM
Is support@stake.com still working, because I never received a response?
2232  Economy / Gambling / Re: CRYPTO POKER - FREEROLLS EVERY 2 HOURS | 100% INSTANT BONUSES | 50% RAKEBACK on: June 13, 2018, 11:24:12 PM
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Reduce bad-beats and extreme scenarios.
If your RNG reduces bad beats, it must be manipulated, because bad beats are statistically a part of the game.

What are extreme scenarios?
- We never stated eliminate bad beats. We said reduce. We combine real Swiss hardware that is used in their national lottery as well as combine blockchain hashes in a triple factor method. You can learn how it works here: https://medium.com/@CryptoPokerClub/crypto-poker-clubs-triple-factor-random-number-generator-tfrng-revealed-4b83fccb7aea
I also never quoted eliminate, I quoted reduce from your website. And if your RNG reduces bad beats compared to other independent RNGs, then your RNG must be manipulated!

Or did you want to claim that the RNGs of other poker sites are manipulated to create bad beats, but as your RNG is independent it reduces the numbers of bad beats because it does not include fabricated bad beats like at other poker sites?

Still waiting for your answer what are extreme scenarios?
2233  Economy / Gambling / Re: advice for sports betting, wich platform is the best please and the most secure. on: June 13, 2018, 10:57:25 PM
If you are concerned about your investment, then the best thing you can do is  Crypto gambling with consumer protection service inclusive

The publicly proven Sportsbet scam has the scam tactic to let all and everything in, but if you won they suddenly ask for KYC!
2234  Economy / Gambling / Re: CRYPTO POKER - FREEROLLS EVERY 2 HOURS | 100% INSTANT BONUSES | 50% RAKEBACK on: June 13, 2018, 10:37:39 PM
You operate fully anonymously, is this correct?

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Player's funds are highly secured and stored offline in segregated and scattered hardware wallets making them virtually unhackable.
Who has access to those hardware wallets?


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As you have full control of your own Bitcoin & Ethereum Wallet, we charge nothing extra for any withdrawals and rather than waiting weeks to get your money like traditional poker games.
If I make a deposit to ?, I will have full control of my own Bitcoin & Ethereum Wallet at ? Or do you also have control over it?


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Reduce bad-beats and extreme scenarios.
If your RNG reduces bad beats, it must be manipulated, because bad beats are statistically a part of the game.

What are extreme scenarios?
2235  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sportsbet.io best ever bitcoin bookie + proofs on: June 13, 2018, 10:19:51 PM
Either you or the publicly proven Sportsbet scam is lying!!!

Because according to their statement they are obligated to ID verification if withdrawals exceeds the equivalent of 10 Bitcoins or €2300.

Hi all,

Regarding the complaint of player ExcessTest:

sportsbet.io is a regulated online gambling provider which does not withold customers funds and processes hundreds of withdrawals of BTC in a week.

Regardless the nature of Bitcoin payments as a regulated operator we are obliged to ID verification, KYC and AML (anti-money laundering) procedures by the regulator at certain withdrawal levels.

We have stated this clearly in our Terms & Conditions page available here –
https://sportsbet.io/about/general-terms-and-conditions
3.3.3. Sportsbet reserve the right to carry out additional KYC verification procedures for any withdrawals exceeding the equivalent of 10 Bitcoins or €2300 which ever is lower, and further reserves the right to carry out such verification procedures in case of smaller withdrawals, as demanded by our gaming license. Account Holders who wish to recover funds held in a closed, locked or excluded account, are advised to contact Customer Support.
2236  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Direx Limited, SoftSwiss, Direx N.V Scam by Ivan Montic on: June 13, 2018, 10:08:17 PM
Readers, OshiNick is a marketing clown paid by the publicly proven SoftSwiss scam and is not able to show his license or the name of the company that operates the illegal casino oshi.io!

If you have an issue he demands to ask gamblers! Cheesy How sick is this?
2237  Economy / Gambling / Re: ᴥᵜᴥ Oshi.io .ᴥᵜᴥ. A different online casino! .ᴥᵜᴥ. Choose your own bonus ᴥᵜᴥ on: June 13, 2018, 10:05:29 PM
@ OshiNick

Why not answer my questions instead?

For example, what is the name of the company that signed a white label contract with Direx N.V.?

Or did you sign the contract as a private person?
2238  Economy / Gambling / Re:💰Buff88.com |In-play|eSports |Sports |Casino |BTC, ETH and altcoins accepted💰 on: June 11, 2018, 11:01:17 PM
As I have wrote previously, I didn't even know making multiple accounts were against terms and conditions.
It is clearly stated in their ToS.
As I have wrote above this quote, When you register account to certain website which doesn't require detail information such as personal information but only requires email address, who read all of the Terms and Condition? Seriously?
This is not excuse for breaking ToS.
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At this time, withdrawal amount was small, so I think they have approved my request. And they have mentioned about I have account "B" and "C", and they have suspended "B" account.
Well, I have created new account (Account "C"), but "B" Account they have suspended was account of my colleague's from my company.
Whos account is account A?
So you violated their ToS with 2 accounts, they limited one account, banned the other one and then you created third account?
You are basically saying it is OK for you to break ToS but if they enforce the same terms it is not OK.



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Since our company have 1 main IP address for outbound, Buff88.com thought these were all my accounts.
ToS:
One personal single account pertaining to one domestic household address or IP address

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In Fortunejack.com, do you confiscate player's winning and original deposited money if you find that player have breached terms and conditions? or do you just confiscate winnings and reimburse original deposited money back to player?
You should ask that FortuneJack's support.

I'm not denying that I have violated the terms and conditions of Buff88.com. Main point of what I'm saying here is that, 'is it legal to confiscate original deposited fund if you violate terms and condition?'.

As I have said many times in above, I totally understand buff88.com confiscated my winnings, but why don't they reimburse my original deposited fund which is about 500 euro worth of bitcoin!!

What is your opinion about this?

This is clearly proving that buff88.com is a scam site, because they stole my money!

And about the accounts question:

Account A - My First created account which got limited to accessing live casino but able to access sports bet
Account B - My Colleague Account which created in same IP range due to same outbound IP
Account C - My Second created account

Here is the step by step of the history.

1. While I was playing live casino with Account A (before I got limited from live casino) I told my colleague about buff88.com and he created Account B for him to play. At this time there was no problem at all.

2. One day, my Account A was limited to accessing live casino without any detail reason.

3. I created Account C (I didn't know making additional account was breaching terms and conditions at this time), and played live casino

4. One day, I receive email from buff88.com that I have registered account B and account C with same IP, so buff88.com have banned account B, but let account C to play. (At this point, I realized making multiple account is breaching terms and condition)
But, buff88.com have not banned account C, so I thought it was ok to play with and I continued to play.

5. With Account C, I kept lost money and there was no problem at all (Played for while)

6. One day, I decide to deposit about 500 euro worth bitcoin to play and I was lucky and I won some money from Black Jack and requested for withdrawal, and this time buff88.com blocked my account and stole all of my money.

When buff88.com found out that 2 accounts(B and C) are registered in same IP, they should have already know Account A was also registered in same IP. But they didn't do anything about it until I won money!

If buff88.com is very secured and legit online betting/casino, they should have blocked all of my accounts, but they have let me played and when I was losing, they just kept letting me play, but they suddenly blocked me when I won money.

What do you think this means? Do you think they just forgot to blocked me? from very secured website?? hmm..

This is what I think, buff88.com just waited until I deposit and lose certain amount of money before blocking my account.

Buff88.com need to reimburse my money as soon as possible!

The answer is very easy and simple.

As Buff88 let you continue using account C, knowing it is not your only account, then they can not later confiscate your deposit and winnings claiming breach of their T&C. This is standart civil law, because they explicitly allowed you using account C.

However, the scam scheme these shady operators commit is letting all accounts play as long as they lose and this totally independent of having the same IP or device.

Only in case of winnings, then suddenly the number of accounts or same IP plays a role! But in your case, as they explicitly allowed to continue using your account C, their claim has no legal basis at all.
2239  Economy / Gambling / Re: Are there any bitcoin Sportsbook without KYC procedure? on: June 11, 2018, 10:49:03 PM
Betcoin is a publicly proven scam!

mBitcasino is operated by criminal SoftSwiss and is on the Curacao licensing scam casinos list !

So my recommendation is Crypto gambling with consumer protection service inclusive

No one cares what you think buddy.
Please publicise the poll?


If anything, you are only tarnishing  the reputations of the sportsbooks you mention.
How do I tarnish the reputations?
2240  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1xBit.com - Betting, Bitcoin Sportsbook, Casino web-site| ONLINE SPORTS BETTING! on: June 10, 2018, 10:29:19 PM
Did you put 1xbit scam into google? It is the third entry. Wink
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