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2221  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is it too late to buy NEO? on: September 16, 2017, 01:51:26 PM
i buy yesterday a little, i buy today a little. and soon the price is back to 20 or 25 $ and then look forward to the buyers of today.
I've also bought waves. everything is very cheap. which I use
Wish I had enough bucks to spread around. Everything's ridiculously cheap right now.

It'll go down for the next few weeks. We might even see the market go as far as 70 billion. Fucking chinese government scared of everything it can't control or tax

70 Billion? thats a far fetch statement. I hope you're right, would love to buy some cheap coins but I don't see it going under 100 Billion.

He was pulling numbers out of his ass, market already back to $130bn

70 billion is around the support line. Market will not suddenly go back up, it never has and never will. September 30th is the day one of chinas biggest exchanges will close down, and later on in october two more will follow. It's just not realistic to think this can't drive market cap down drastically
2222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 16, 2017, 01:46:13 PM
it still way better to invest with MNE than ETH for this round too, i don't get it why the price of MNE still low.
maybe people are not intrested in this ICO.

Theres a lot of interest but thats mostly from original mne investors. They had already bought their mne so there simply wasn't a lot of new money flowing into this project. That's why prices remain low
2223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Minereum - First Self Mining Smart Contract - ARTEMINE ICO NOW LIVE on: September 16, 2017, 12:11:33 PM
i dont understand, how is this even possible? artemine ICO collected MORE THAN A HALF of all existing at the moment MNE tokens!!
and price is still super small? its not possible that token do not grow up with more than 50% tokens gone

https://etherscan.io/address/0xcf24FA5606BBE4Dab3bA24CB586b4353fE83094a

 People had already bought those mne so they were already out of the market
2224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Antshares/ NEO [NEO] on: September 15, 2017, 05:31:44 PM
Chinese are moving to western exchanges to buy Neo,

Poloniex could be a big factor for Neo once they add it!
Gas has been added. Waiting for Neo to go to the moon.

If neo gets listed on polo, it's going back to the high 20's. Then all we need is some good news from china and we're on our way to the triple digits
2225  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Minereum - First Self Mining Smart Contract - ARTEMINE ICO NOW LIVE on: September 15, 2017, 05:29:55 PM
I am afraid once day 1 is over mne will collapse completely since the urgency is gone.
Also livecoin withdrawal ruined this ICO

Price MNE 0.00048010 is - 40 % in one day.

Maybe pick up the remains once this is over

It could pick up once it has a new purpose. If they'd give us a decent roadmap for the lottery and the world app, prices could triple in one day
2226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 15, 2017, 01:58:59 PM
MiBambino - this is my concern!
As you wrote: "This means 50.000.000 art will be mined over 63 years".
Yes! I think the same, but NOT DEVS!
They always use 100.000.000 base for calculations, not real amount  Cry

Indeed you're right, it would be 50 million if you'd be able to buy 10.000 art for every 100MNE on every day of the ICO, but that's not the case. It will therefore be substancially lower than 50 mil, probably around 15 - 20 million
2227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 15, 2017, 01:27:06 PM
So 23M ARTE will be created after first day for sure.
And some more (with all these exchanges issues ...).
But! After first day price dramatically changes and grow will be much slower...
Old question. How many ARTE will be shared in total and what will be reward rate?

Art gets mined automatically over a period of 63 years. Given the current contibution of 230.000MNE I believe we'll reach 500.000MNE contibuted during the entire ICO. This means 50.000.000 art will be mined over 63 years, so on average per day thats 66.000 ART per day. The reward is still unknown, but unless the devs come up with a clear incentive to buy and hold Art, prices will drop every day, no doubt
2228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: China is playing us on: September 15, 2017, 01:10:25 PM
Because chinese government hates BTC and Cryptocurrency,  its the one thing they ultimately can't fully control. Person in authority is feudal way of thinking.

Exactly, they haven't figured out a way to get the most out of this market so their best plan is to try and shut it down all together

maybe the government thinking that to shut down all market together will solve their problem but i don't think this will stop people from using bitcoin and even people will trying to find another way to still used bitcoin. their government maybe afraid with the crypto currency power and they thinking that in someday crypto currency can fully operate in offline and online world.

Not at all, but they're acting like dictators who feel their power slip away
2229  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Minereum - First Self Mining Smart Contract - ARTEMINE ICO NOW LIVE on: September 15, 2017, 01:08:32 PM
What's the max supply for Minereum? Is it already the circulative one which is a bit over one million? How much will get burned right now for ART ICO?

Yes and no. There are still a bunch of genesis addresses mining constantly. The contributions to the ART ICO will drastically reduce the supply for a brief amount of time, because all of them will be burned
2230  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: best upcoming ICO on: September 15, 2017, 01:06:40 PM
NEO , ETH , NEM  are good ICOs.

None of those are ICO's
2231  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: No exchanges closing in China - just regulation (edit: not true) on: September 15, 2017, 11:44:22 AM
is it true 20% btc held by chinese investors?
I am confused as to why what happens in China can be so great as to influence the world of crypto  Huh Huh

No one knows the exact percentage, as Bitcoin is a very anonymous form of currency. But my guess is that the Chinese holdings will be somewhere between 10% and 20%, after studying the trade volumes of various Chinese exchanges. That makes China one of the Bitcoin "superpowers".

China holds about 15% of the cryptomarket, but that number is dropping each year. I guess chinese people needed cryptos more than we did, but that's slowly changing. Sooner rather than later, not only will China reconsider, they also won't be able to manipulate it as much. We'll end 2017 under the 100 billion cap, but we'll end 2018 over the 200 billion cap, no worries
2232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 15, 2017, 11:39:49 AM
Livecoin is pulling a scam there. Unbelievable. They knew there would be massive withdrawal requests due to the ICO. I hope the dev will extend the first day bonus due to this shit going on.

He won't, but hurry up cause the exchanges are back open, who knows for how long
2233  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Minereum - First Self Mining Smart Contract - ARTEMINE ICO NOW LIVE on: September 15, 2017, 11:38:33 AM
They closed now all withdraws and deposits, can't even withdraw or deposit btc. What a crappy exchange.
Oh, haven´t known. Really a crappy exchange, I have just used it for MNE but will not use it anymore.

Why livecoin closed all exchange deposit/withdrawals? Have anyone any clear info or news from them?

Apparently they're back open, so hurry up
2234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Effects of ICO ban in China on: September 15, 2017, 11:37:32 AM
China might ban bitcoin and everything, but this train isn't stopping, so they can get on board or get off the tracks:
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/newsflash-bitcoin-price-falls-3000-china-influence-wanes/
2235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Minereum - First Self Mining Smart Contract - ARTEMINE ICO NOW LIVE on: September 15, 2017, 11:32:29 AM
what is going on with livecoin? It seems they closed withdrawls.

not chill if you want to participate with the ico.

yeah? so you cant withdraw MNE tokens from livecoin? thanks for saying it, now i will go to cryptopia than, so if there not available withdraw on livecoin, i guess all will go to cryptopia and price can go up

I send them a ticket for pressure.

"Now is only time to withdraw minereum due to arte ico.

6 hour later our loss will be %25 + your so called "technical problem" already cause %50 loss to minereum.

After this i will never use your services and tell everyone to do so. Unbelieveable!"

If you have some mne in there open a ticket. Maybe it will effect them. By the way i really won't use their site again.
Maybe you can sell MNE at Livecoin for BTC, send the BTC to Cryptopia and buy MNE there again? But I didn´t checked the prices, maybe you have some loss.

It makes you lost like %60 so not a good method.

They closed now all withdraws and deposits, can't even withdraw or deposit btc. What a crappy exchange.

Damn that sucks! That's why we need MNE on a better, more professional exchange like Bittrex or Binance
2236  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is it too late to buy NEO? on: September 15, 2017, 11:25:21 AM
i buy yesterday a little, i buy today a little. and soon the price is back to 20 or 25 $ and then look forward to the buyers of today.
I've also bought waves. everything is very cheap. which I use
Wish I had enough bucks to spread around. Everything's ridiculously cheap right now.

It'll go down for the next few weeks. We might even see the market go as far as 70 billion. Fucking chinese government scared of everything it can't control or tax
2237  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Effects of ICO ban in China on: September 15, 2017, 11:23:52 AM
I think this ban on ICO is a temporary ban and it will be allowed again in China in near future because ban on ICO is almost equal to ban on cryptocurriencies  and which Government of China can't afford because cryptocurriencies are the future of payments.
Successful ICOs will not refund money to people because they are not bound under terms to refund.

They will succeed in banning cryptos. You think the chinese government wants its people to be harder to track and tax? They won't stop until they either find a way to regulate and profit from cryptos, or until they completely ban them.
2238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: No exchanges closing in China - just regulation (edit: not true) on: September 15, 2017, 11:21:17 AM
is it true 20% btc held by chinese investors?
I am confused as to why what happens in China can be so great as to influence the world of crypto  Huh Huh

Its simple, chinese are moving their assets out of china without giving their government notice of it, which is forbidden, the chinese gov wants to control the wealth that goes in and out of the country and since these ICOs have pretty much screwed what was a profitable business for all the chinese finance regulators are now seeking solutions to keep the money and assets in.

The thing is, china doesn't have that much power its the people that invest in bitcoin and other currencies that are that stupid and greedy, exchanges, news sites with interests in this and that currency and shady individuals that profited from all this spreading panic and confusion, thats one of the issues at the moment.

If china bans exchanges people can still go around them with vpns or out of country exchanges it just takes time to plan and setup.

The worst problem until now are the ICOs and the individuals behind them, this is the only thing needing a permanent ban, everything else so far kept the ecosystem running smoothly.

Anyways if people keep their shit together and keep trading normally things eventually even out as the markets stabilize and climb again.

True, but the governments are not without sin. They want the biggest piece of the pie and if they can't have it, no one can. But, like you said, the people are to blame as well. A majority of chinese investors invest in coins because they heard someone talk about it. They don't know the coin, the team, the roadmap, nothing. That's how a lot of them end up broke, which is of course bad for the chinese economy
the question is whether investors and bitcoin holders from China will stay silent? I think no, there are still pairs to USD, maybe they will move btc to USD

They will, most of them are scared retards who have no clue where they invest their money. They see the market drop and they sell instead of waiting for a low point to buy
2239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Change - The First Decentralysed Crypto Bank [ICO September 16th] on: September 15, 2017, 11:15:16 AM
There is monaco and tenx coins. I wonder what is new about this coin?

Hi,

TenX and Monaco are payment solutions making cryptocurrencies spendable.

Change is a payment solution + an investments marketplace, where you may find a large variety of investment opportunities provided by fintech companies.



Exactly, change can do what the others can do and so much more. It'll reach 1/10th of Visa's cap by the end of 2023, and it'll trump it by 2030. In 5 years each CAG will be worth 70$, in 13 years we'll reach a peak of 700$ per CAG.
2240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Stox - Prediction market platform | Token sale has ended on: September 15, 2017, 11:08:50 AM
The way I see things like is that the team do not priotized new exchange listings for now, I don't think if they approached Bittrex that Bittrex is going to say no to the project

As I follow Bittrxt hasn't added any coin/token lately. There should be many reasons but if it changes soon we can see many new coins on there.

Bittrex isn't going to add new coins in troubled times like these, but give it a few months and stx will be featured, no worries

I can assure Bittrex is going to add one or two coins before next weeks, there are some good projects that has just concluded their ICOs, like Enigma and Kik  in particular will find its tokens on Bittrex soon

How can you assure that? Insider news? IMO Bittrex will not list new coins recently.

I want to know that too. Bittrex used to add almost every tokens right after the ICOs but recently they haven't added any new one.

Because the market isn't doing great right now, there's a lot more to adding a coin to an exchange than meets the eye, i'm sure
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