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2241  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: December 17, 2016, 08:09:35 AM
my pick today is a parlay

Sevilla vs Malaga: Bet on Sevilla to win ( I hope sevilla will win this match at home)
Granada vs Real Sociedad: bet on Real Sociedad to win (I also hope real sociedad will win this match at home)
Atletico madrid vs Las palmas bet on Altetico madrid to win (I predict Atletico madrid will win this match at home)


Care to tell us why? All youre doing is betting blind by picking the favorites to win. Show us proof that you really made the bet. Sometimes people just say anything here.
2242  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Dark marketplaces? on: December 17, 2016, 08:05:52 AM
There are a lot of dark marketplaces these days but you should not trust them at all because they are full of scammers these days, its not worth buying on there.

Neither don't ever get involved to have transactions there. That is because most of the people there are doing dirty businesses and don't get fooled by any person there that tries to have a conversation there. The old dark market places are even good enough unlike these days it is full of sh*t out there and its reputation is totally black.

These are clueless comments. In Alphabay there are many vendors who are respected and have a good reputation in the market place. Of course there are still scammers out there but mot in the way you are trying to say. The darknet is still a good place to buy drugs.

Please refrain making comments without knowing the facts.
2243  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 17, 2016, 08:00:31 AM
What I was talking about with balance was in the way the business is run. Real Madrid and Barcelona have to loan money from their government to subsidize their player transfer purchases. This doesnt reflect well in football. Sometimes those top clubs dont have any revenue at a given year because they borrow and spend too much. Bayern on the other hand is a well run business.
Real Madrid and Barcelona do that because they dont accept any foreign investors unless the sponsorship fee, not like Premier League teams. But, they still manage their financial management professionally and listed as the most profitable teams. Logically, if Bayern dont spend too much, then surely they will be the most profitable team then, but hey they are just on 10th position in the list. We can look how well the team run its business based on how profitable that team.

Correction Bayern is 4th on the list and they are without any debt.  Real Madrid and Barcelona have the most massive debts. Look at this report.

http://www.totalsportek.com/football/clubs-with-the-most-debt/
2244  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: is chronobank for real? on: December 16, 2016, 04:59:32 AM
They have been preparing for this ICO since long time, I can see their paid ads on facebook, in addition to tens of articles has been written about this project, some of the articles posted on very famous sites, but they have no social campaigns, maybe they do not neet them. After I checked their roadmap and whitepaper, I think they have good things to introduce, they may become well-known name in the crypto world like Ethereum, Monero, Lisk, ICONOMI....

Among the coins you mentioned which of them is not a scam? There is only one there I think. But I would like to hear it from everyone here if they know.
2245  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 16, 2016, 04:56:44 AM
yeah i agree that leipzig are indeed have been projected since first time they get promoted to bundesliga, they bought Bernardo, Marius Müller, Benno Schmitz, Oliver Burke, Naby Keïta, Timo Werner and get loan for , Kyriakos Papadopoulos from leverkusen , all of them cost 50 million euro! a huge amount for a promotional team. but the result of those investment are pretty successfull so far considering leipzig are on bundesliga winner market.
It just proves us that money could buy you anything. Well then, seems RB Leipzig could be the other rich team beside Bayern. I guess it would trig other big companies or investors to do the same, and if that happens, Bundesliga could be more attractive.

Big money invested in the clubs of the Bundesliga is a good thing only if they find the right balance. We as fans do not want to see another Barcelona or another Real Madrid where they jack up the prices during the transfer window simply because they can. A good example where to find and follow this kind of balance is none other than Bayern Munich.
Well you know, Real Madrid and Barcelona have the greatest rivalry in the world, which they will do anything to be better each other. If Real Madrid sign a great player, then Barcelona will do that as well, and vice versa, no matter how much they will spend. But in Bundesliga, Bayern Munich dominating it too much, not only the title, but also the transfer activity there. Because of that, they can buy good players from other team of Bundesliga in "cheap" price. There is no balance at all.

What I was talking about with balance was in the way the business is run. Real Madrid and Barcelona have to loan money from their government to subsidize their player transfer purchases. This doesnt reflect well in football. Sometimes those top clubs dont have any revenue at a given year because they borrow and spend too much. Bayern on the other hand is a well run business.
2246  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: December 16, 2016, 04:50:54 AM
Could this be the last season of Diego Simeone at Atletico Madrid? His son said that his father Diego will take charge of Inter Milan in the future. With his bad results with Atletico this year maybe he will be at Inter by next season?

Maybe he won't renew the contract, he lost 2 chances to get CL in the final against Real Madrid, he has little chance to win in the future, he will leave

I have the same impression when I read about the article. Like all good things it all comes to an end. Maybe Atletico doesnt think Diego Simeone hasnt given them something good enough for him to stay.
2247  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: December 14, 2016, 07:08:03 AM
Could this be the last season of Diego Simeone at Atletico Madrid? His son said that his father Diego will take charge of Inter Milan in the future. With his bad results with Atletico this year maybe he will be at Inter by next season?
2248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 14, 2016, 07:00:50 AM
yeah i agree that leipzig are indeed have been projected since first time they get promoted to bundesliga, they bought Bernardo, Marius Müller, Benno Schmitz, Oliver Burke, Naby Keïta, Timo Werner and get loan for , Kyriakos Papadopoulos from leverkusen , all of them cost 50 million euro! a huge amount for a promotional team. but the result of those investment are pretty successfull so far considering leipzig are on bundesliga winner market.
It just proves us that money could buy you anything. Well then, seems RB Leipzig could be the other rich team beside Bayern. I guess it would trig other big companies or investors to do the same, and if that happens, Bundesliga could be more attractive.

Big money invested in the clubs of the Bundesliga is a good thing only if they find the right balance. We as fans do not want to see another Barcelona or another Real Madrid where they jack up the prices during the transfer window simply because they can. A good example where to find and follow this kind of balance is none other than Bayern Munich.
2249  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: is chronobank for real? on: December 14, 2016, 06:52:54 AM

i just saw them on facebook, they say its a decentralized marketplace.   this link chronobank.io
Is this a new ico? I just saw at the end of their homepage. still running the ico and receiving an email subscriber. Market project or a new coin project.... and this is my first time are heard about them.... Huh

Geez another ICO? This will 99.9% be a big scam. This is whats happening right now in the BTC scene, the VCs have already stopped investing in BTC companies because they are all losses. So the next move for the developers is to start scamming the community directly.

I think your must on the topic
OP not ask about scam or not, but about chrono bank real project or not

about real project in online not online can't judge , because all people can't the real see this office in chrono bank

Whats the difference? If its not a real project then it must be a scam. What is it that you dont understand with the history of ICOs? The are a way for scammers to scam the community directly.
2250  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Giving up on Bitcoin... on: December 13, 2016, 06:13:22 AM
...and by "giving up" the OP means he will continue to post FUD well into the future!

This is what really happened. He sold all his BTC months ago for a small profit because he thought that its already overbought like what most of the wannabes in the speculation forum would say. He must be regretting that decision now and hes feeling bad. This thread is the manifestation of how bad he feels by declaring that BTC is dead.
2251  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: is chronobank for real? on: December 13, 2016, 05:53:43 AM

i just saw them on facebook, they say its a decentralized marketplace.   this link chronobank.io
Is this a new ico? I just saw at the end of their homepage. still running the ico and receiving an email subscriber. Market project or a new coin project.... and this is my first time are heard about them.... Huh

Geez another ICO? This will 99.9% be a big scam. This is whats happening right now in the BTC scene, the VCs have already stopped investing in BTC companies because they are all losses. So the next move for the developers is to start scamming the community directly.


We cannot tell that they are scam since theres no threads named as it is a scam, and for what i've see they have quitely good team of advertiser, got money to run for its advertisement and other from that they look realistic, and im kinda have a trust on them for now since they are runnung in good phase, maybe we cannot see their true agenda for now, but all the thing we need to do is to follow if we want to.

Its either you are not paying attention or you are playing stupid, or maybe you really are. How can you trust someone in this forum after all the ICO scams that have occurred here? Its your kind of thinking thats encouraging the scammers to keep doing it.
2252  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Dark marketplaces? on: December 13, 2016, 05:51:09 AM
Whats the best darknet market place where a person can buy cocaine from? It looks like that a lot of the people here are talking BS and dont really have any experience in dealing in the darknet. Why do you keep saying bad things about something you dont really know about?

I want to listen to someone who has first hand experience in buying drugs from the darknet.
If you are looking for that person and for surely, you're in the wrong place.

We are on the bitcoin forums and for logically you'll never find that in here, mostly are a speculation.

Then would it be safe to say that most of the posters in this thread have no idea what they are talking about? Then why are they here discussing the darknet markets then? They dont know where to buy drugs, who the reputable sellers are and how to use BTC safely to keep your anonymity intact. I mean are these people here in for the exploration of the uses of BTC or are they only in for the ride because they want to be rich in fiat money?
We are safe here dicussing  this thread because we are using this forum anonymously . Some of us say that in darkweb we can buy some illegal things , They know it because they dive/surfed yhe deepweb and see this things that is on sale or they read an article about these things

But without experience that is all they know. Talk. Do you not realize how important the darknet markets are for the people who like to use drugs and for the people who sell drugs to provide money for their families? All of you have your own secret fetishes too so do not be hypocrites and judge something as bad because it might affect the price of BTC in a bad way. That is what all of you are really worried about.
2253  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 13, 2016, 05:46:32 AM
Nothing really unusual for this weeks games except for RB Leipzig losing to relegation candidate Ingolstadt. This should be an opportunity for Bayern Munich to study that game to find out the weaknesses of Leipzig. They will be playing vs. each other 2 weeks from now.

It is indeed unusual for leipzig to lose, some people might have thought that it is normal especially that they have win 9 times in a row before they lose however it is indeed not normal. Alot of people lost their money because of this when everyone thought that this supposed to be an easy win for leipzig
I'm the one of the “some people" that think it's normal RB Leipzig to lose game, as I said before they have a problem to keep a clean sheet and bad defence, here come the day that they fail to score. But it still not the end of the world for them, they just lost the 3 points lead and tied up with Bayer. This make the next two game more interesting, the 21 December battle at Allianz Arena gonna be the best show in Christmas week.
Lol same with me too, its not that easy for a new team like RB Leipzig to win Bundesliga. Dont compare it with Leicester, which Leicester had enough experience in Premier League and also had good coach yet some great players. Im not underestimating RB Leipzig, but they still have much time to win it, and I think not for this season. Yeah I wont miss that great match, cant wait to see.

Last year's Leicester and this year's RB Leipzig's campaigns are very different. Leipzig has been injected with a lot of money to dominate German football. Leicester last year was on a meager budget but had passion and belief in themselves. It was an inspiring year for them.Something they can repeat hopefully in the Champions league.
2254  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: December 13, 2016, 05:42:24 AM
Reading the posts before the Villareal vs. Atletico started. Many of us have lost our bets. I followed the bets of many of the people here who are behind Atletico because they are viewed as the better team. We have not analyzed that Atletico is weaker this year and Villareal a little stronger. They are also very close in the table before this game with Atletico only leading by 2 points.
2255  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: December 12, 2016, 07:17:17 AM
Celta Vigo at home ground is in good position against Sevilla but I think it will be risky to take Celta Vigo for this match because much hard for me to take underestimate Sevilla right now after they are on fire, I have both teams to score so this would be nice pick.

Yeah. I made a mistake of following the history between them to the letter. I made a big mistake in analyzing it that way. I didnt take into account that Sevilla is really also good under Jorge Sampaoli. But its still an unexpected result because the guy who scored a hat trick is Vicente Iborra as a substitute.
2256  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 12, 2016, 07:08:23 AM
Nothing really unusual for this weeks games except for RB Leipzig losing to relegation candidate Ingolstadt. This should be an opportunity for Bayern Munich to study that game to find out the weaknesses of Leipzig. They will be playing vs. each other 2 weeks from now.

2257  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Dark marketplaces? on: December 12, 2016, 07:01:39 AM
Whats the best darknet market place where a person can buy cocaine from? It looks like that a lot of the people here are talking BS and dont really have any experience in dealing in the darknet. Why do you keep saying bad things about something you dont really know about?

I want to listen to someone who has first hand experience in buying drugs from the darknet.
If you are looking for that person and for surely, you're in the wrong place.

We are on the bitcoin forums and for logically you'll never find that in here, mostly are a speculation.

Then would it be safe to say that most of the posters in this thread have no idea what they are talking about? Then why are they here discussing the darknet markets then? They dont know where to buy drugs, who the reputable sellers are and how to use BTC safely to keep your anonymity intact. I mean are these people here in for the exploration of the uses of BTC or are they only in for the ride because they want to be rich in fiat money?
2258  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: is chronobank for real? on: December 12, 2016, 06:51:49 AM

i just saw them on facebook, they say its a decentralized marketplace.   this link chronobank.io
Is this a new ico? I just saw at the end of their homepage. still running the ico and receiving an email subscriber. Market project or a new coin project.... and this is my first time are heard about them.... Huh

Geez another ICO? This will 99.9% be a big scam. This is whats happening right now in the BTC scene, the VCs have already stopped investing in BTC companies because they are all losses. So the next move for the developers is to start scamming the community directly.
2259  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the news on: December 12, 2016, 06:46:49 AM
Besides this Bitcoin is very poor represented in media. At least in main stream media and the situation is the same in the whole world. And beeing presented in media with positive presentation and marketing is to my opinion key issue for Bitcoin to become widely accepted and to break  the "fear" of Bitcoin among simple no so technologicaly educated people.

Correct,bitcoin is not on the mainstream news. The only effective marketing of bitcoin is through the word of the mouth, that is introducing it to a friend,family members or to some who deals online.But still I am happy despite the lack of exposure to mainstream media, still bitcoin community members are rising.

Do you really think that because BTC is not always featured in the mainstream media ia the reason why it is not growing in utility? Thats stupid. It is growing but not in the way you think.
2260  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in the news on: December 11, 2016, 12:50:47 PM
Is it possible for BTC to reach a trillion dollar market cap. If you think yes then how could BTC reach that level? What kind of utility will BTC have to evolve into to make that possible?
Nothing other than removing peoples negative mind set for bitcoin. Bitcoin is already capable of handling more than trillion dollar market cap easily as even 1 satoshi can be exchanged and if 1 satoshi can act as 1 cent, 1 bitcoin can easily be 1 milllion USD so obviously bitcoin marketcap be way more than just 1 trillion.



What do you mean by the people's negative mindset? They do not matter. What matters is overcoming BTC's technical limitations like the bloating of the blockchain and the problem with how to scale it. Maybe another problem is how to grow the markets where BTC is mostly used in like the illegal drugs market and others like illegal firearms.
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